Some questions about U12+ before making a switch - HTC U12+ Questions & Answers

I currently own an iPhone X but I feel like iOS 11 is garbage in lots of aspects compared to it's predecessors and also notch is annoying when watching movies.. I've used to own Samsung S/Note phones but I am done with their laggy TouchWiz/Samsung Experience UI. That said, U12+ looks like a phone worth giving a shot. I like to take videos and photos with my phone so camera plays an important role. Is it good? Does it have any major overheating issues? Second thing - how does HTC deal with updates? Can I count on receiving security updates in 1-2 months or they don't really care much? The last thing is battery - I currently get to around 4,5h SoT with my iPhone, any chance HTC performs the same or better? I will be grateful for any responses before I spend my money

Monnq said:
I currently own an iPhone X but I feel like iOS 11 is garbage in lots of aspects compared to it's predecessors and also notch is annoying when watching movies.. I've used to own Samsung S/Note phones but I am done with their laggy TouchWiz/Samsung Experience UI. That said, U12+ looks like a phone worth giving a shot. I like to take videos and photos with my phone so camera plays an important role. Is it good? Does it have any major overheating issues? Second thing - how does HTC deal with updates? Can I count on receiving security updates in 1-2 months or they don't really care much? The last thing is battery - I currently get to around 4,5h SoT with my iPhone, any chance HTC performs the same or better? I will be grateful for any responses before I spend my money
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Let me try to answer some of your questions:
1. Camera: It has the best Camera right after the P20 Pro. So you should be all set here, and gain great results from it.
2. Overheating: It is on the release software 1.15.401.4 getting warmer, but not that hot, from time to time, due to some improvement on clocking of the CPU that are necessary. This has been dealt with and an update is currently starting to roll out and address such issues.
3. Updates: It has been an up and down during the last years to be honest. But HTC finally established so called QMRs (Quaterly Maintenance Releases) for the U12+ as well the U11. As I write the OTA is imminent to roll out to all variants now. The may jump an QMR if there are no security patches by Google that explicitly adress their very devices. To understand the often misguided discussion about that very topic you might make yourself familiar with the Google Security Bulletin, and what it tells you.
4. SoT: I always get 5 - 7h SoT with battery holding up for 24h. I'm quite pleased by those results imho.
Sent from my HTC U12+ using XDA Labs

Monnq said:
I currently own an iPhone X but I feel like iOS 11 is garbage in lots of aspects compared to it's predecessors and also notch is annoying when watching movies.. I've used to own Samsung S/Note phones but I am done with their laggy TouchWiz/Samsung Experience UI. That said, U12+ looks like a phone worth giving a shot. I like to take videos and photos with my phone so camera plays an important role. Is it good? Does it have any major overheating issues? Second thing - how does HTC deal with updates? Can I count on receiving security updates in 1-2 months or they don't really care much? The last thing is battery - I currently get to around 4,5h SoT with my iPhone, any chance HTC performs the same or better? I will be grateful for any responses before I spend my money
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Hi!
So I own iPhone X from about 2 months, and I owned iPhone from the first iPhone 2G! ... anyway I don't like anymore iOS , especially the iOS 11
Anyway:
1) HTC u12+ is a fast and fluid phone, I can say that is smoother than iPhone x
2) Photo and Video are better than iPhone x, the autofocus is fast, the colour are correct and the final image is amazing, in many ways better than pixel 2xl that it is a monster camera phone.
3) no major overheating issues.. somethimes under the sun at 35 Celsius can happen a little bit warm but not in a normal day
4) htc is fast to update to every new mayor release of android, until now the secure patch was slow but it seems that is changed now (read up)
5) battery is good but i think will be better with the new upcoming update (and better than iPhone x)
6) I can say only this.. the phone is very good: remember only that is a little bigger than iPhone x, and the screen is more accurate in color than iPhone x but is less brighter so if you work outside all the day maybe is not the best choice for you, if you work in a office or you don't stay all day under the sun is great
ciao !

Get iOS 12 betas a try?
It's been getting some serious good points for a beta compared to iOS 11.
Also if it managed to hold you off until September when it's finalized. The U12 will.be cheaper with HTC discounts or mint condition used phones on resale sites.
By then you'll have more information on the fall phone releases.

imaximuss said:
Hi!
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4) htc is fast to update to every new mayor release of android, until now the secure patch was slow but it seems that is changed now (read up)
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ciao !
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Are you serious!? My U11 Flagship stucks in 2.33.401.10 (what is WWE, not branded) Patch Level 11/2017 Android 8.0. We have 7/2018!
Well, my wife's U11 life get updates because of AndroidOne -today my U12+ 128GB arrived, very disappoited, also no Android One, 8.0 -at least Patchlevel 3/2018. Some Options appear in....don't know! Traditional Chinese? Version is .408., Language is set to German, Google keyboard is NOT adjustable to German. Not the best first impression! :|

Groby said:
Are you serious!? My U11 Flagship stucks in 2.33.401.10 (what is WWE, not branded) Patch Level 11/2017 Android 8.0. We have 7/2018!
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You ever happened to check security with SnoopSnitch, as it would show that the U11 is still secure. And did you ever check the Google Security Bulletin, if there are updates affecting HTC, or if not. This update discussion is absolutely unnecessary, due to the fact that the Patch Level is only half of the truth and information. But nobody cares to take in all information needed. You neither guessing by you post.
Sent from my HTC U12+ using XDA Labs

Groby said:
Are you serious!? My U11 Flagship stucks in 2.33.401.10 (what is WWE, not branded) Patch Level 11/2017 Android 8.0. We have 7/2018!
Well, my wife's U11 life get updates because of AndroidOne -today my U12+ 128GB arrived, very disappoited, also no Android One, 8.0 -at least Patchlevel 3/2018. Some Options appear in....don't know! Traditional Chinese? Version is .408., Language is set to German, Google keyboard is NOT adjustable to German. Not the best first impression! :|
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he talked about the major android updates and yes, HTC updates phones fast, when switching from let's say nougat to Oreo, or in the case soon from Oreo to P
also from where did you get the device? if it's from EMEA, then it's normal you might face issues with language, since you got a 128gb version, which is not available in Germany

Groby said:
Are you serious!? My U11 Flagship stucks in 2.33.401.10 (what is WWE, not branded) Patch Level 11/2017 Android 8.0. We have 7/2018!
Well, my wife's U11 life get updates because of AndroidOne -today my U12+ 128GB arrived, very disappoited, also no Android One, 8.0 -at least Patchlevel 3/2018. Some Options appear in....don't know! Traditional Chinese? Version is .408., Language is set to German, Google keyboard is NOT adjustable to German. Not the best first impression! :|
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You have bought an imported Taiwan version, It's not an HTC fault but yours. Same argument for Android One, as we replied on your thread

5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
Let me try to answer some of your questions:
1. Camera: It has the best Camera right after the P20 Pro. So you should be all set here, and gain great results from it.
2. Overheating: It is on the release software 1.15.401.4 getting warmer, but not that hot, from time to time, due to some improvement on clocking of the CPU that are necessary. This has been dealt with and an update is currently starting to roll out and address such issues.
3. Updates: It has been an up and down during the last years to be honest. But HTC finally established so called QMRs (Quaterly Maintenance Releases) for the U12+ as well the U11. As I write the OTA is imminent to roll out to all variants now. The may jump an QMR if there are no security patches by Google that explicitly adress their very devices. To understand the often misguided discussion about that very topic you might make yourself familiar with the Google Security Bulletin, and what it tells you.
4. SoT: I always get 5 - 7h SoT with battery holding up for 24h. I'm quite pleased by those results imho.
Sent from my HTC U12+ using XDA Labs
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How are you able to get 5 - 7hrs SoT? I only get 4 - 5hrs daily.

enyaj said:
How are you able to get 5 - 7hrs SoT? I only get 4 - 5hrs daily.
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Take a look at my thread about SoT. There's not just me getting those numbers. Here's my personal stats. I even get it, using a lot of power hungry apps:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/u1...12-ime-battery-life-sot-t3797865/post76977119
Sent from my HTC U12+ using XDA Labs

Razorbacktrack5535 said:
You have bought an imported Taiwan version, It's not an HTC fault but yours. Same argument for Android One, as we replied on your thread
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I really feel a litte bit like an beta tester -normaly Android is spread in all languages, and (as I'm an IT guy) I kow that there are compairing tools -is somethig have an gap -you will noticed.
And I really like HTC -I buy it since 2002 -16 Years! At least2 device, for me and my wife, additional for work and employees -let's say roundabout 4 devices at 16 years -that will be 64 at a minimum -plus all I have to support from my family and fried which I have recommended to friend and customer. Round it up to 150, beginning from Typhoo, Feeler and the whole spectrum.
It makes a litle bit sad if you always try to buy Flagships and waiting for updates. My Samsung A5, a really low cost Device says in weeks, not moths, there are Updates. :|
And as I'm IT Professional -better then Antivirus and other just cobble things which are just follow vulnerabiles is to get a Patch for it. I have the problem that I get annoyed fram Ads -and I just have some Apps installen, no games, no bull**** -mostly buyed full versions. And "tap and hold" to see which process the Ad cause doe not work -they find a new way to cover it. :/
Patches really elp, in special he great december Update from Android AFAIR...
Is it really to much to expect to get more then one or two updates after paying 700+ Euro, and can read all menue?

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Honor 8 a viable choice in 2017?

Hello.
I'm looking for a new phone, my budget is around 340 USD and therefore Honor 8 has really caught my eye. I'd like to ask a couple questions.
1. Is the bootloader unlock process problematic? Have you faced any issues with it or is it hassle-free? Coming from an LG device, I want to be extra careful with this.
2. I plan to have this device for a longer period of time, around 3-4 years. Is Honor 8 a viable choice, despite the fact that it will soon be a year from the release? Will it be able to hold off for that long, in terms of ROM support and general performance/usage?
3. How do custom ROM development prospects look right now for the device? From what I've seen, Huawei still hasn't released sources for Nougat. Can I expect good custom ROM support from this device?
4. How satisfied are you with your phone? Would you recommend it to me? Are there anything you don't like about the phone?
Thanks in advance.
Hi , i will just speak about question 4 ....
I had iphone7 , Huawei P9, Galaxy s7 and since 2 month : Honor 8
Yes for me you can buy this phone in 2017
It's a very good phone , very fluid, no lags, the phone is not too big , not to small, you can use with one hand . Screen is good , photo too but not like Iphone7 or Galaxy S7 . I am very happy with quick charge . For me the phone is more faster than an Iphone7, or Galaxy S7 . You can personalize like you want , You have a lot of nice themes on XDA or Google+ Emui Community . Sound is good, with headset is not like an Iphone or Galaxy s7 but to listen music is suffisant for me . VoilĂ , my advice is very good phone, just photo and music with headset can be better but stay ok for daily use .
The device is solid. Runs fast, pretty good specs, and looks nice.
Expect zero updates. Zero custom ROM support, and even rooting is a pain in the butt.
If you're into it for the dev scene, move on. If you want a half decent device for daily use, not bad at all.
Personally I regret buying it because Huawei is terrible at updates and keeping promises.
But as a daily driver device, it's fine.
Don't buy it's an alright phone but no custom ROM support is like a death sentence for a phone. This phone has been out for like 9 months and doesn't have a fully working custom ROM, that right there tells you that this phone has no future. Also who keeps wants to keep a low to mid range phone for 3-4 years? Must be in a 3rd world country!
I am happy with the phone but I'm disappointed with Huawei/Honor when it comes to updates and I am not going to buy more phones from them.
I would get something else right now, it was a good choice when it was released
Next time I will just pay 200 extra euro and get a real phone
Yeah it is a good phone but i am disappointed i expected few roms by now...i wish i could turn time back and go for xiaomi rednote 3 pro
1. Is the bootloader unlock process problematic? Have you faced any issues with it or is it hassle-free? Coming from an LG device, I want to be extra careful with this.
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It's hassle-free.
2. I plan to have this device for a longer period of time, around 3-4 years. Is Honor 8 a viable choice, despite the fact that it will soon be a year from the release? Will it be able to hold off for that long, in terms of ROM support and general performance/usage?
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Huawei offer 2 years of updates, but not monthly updates. Taking a look at honor 6 released in august 2014 - it is indeed so. Latest update for honor 6 is september 30th 2016.
3. How do custom ROM development prospects look right now for the device? From what I've seen, Huawei still hasn't released sources for Nougat. Can I expect good custom ROM support from this device?
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No. Don't expect good custom ROM for this device.
4. How satisfied are you with your phone? Would you recommend it to me? Are there anything you don't like about the phone?
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I'm pretty satisfied. I enjoy it's dimensions, design, performance and battery life. Games aside, it's faster than any SD820 phone and most SD821 phones (take a look at performance comparison videos on youtube), so it's definitely going to be quick enough for 3-4 years.
If no custom ROM support, lower than SD820 GPU performance and only 2 years of official updates are OK for you (as it is for me) - I definitely recommend it.
Fobos531 said:
Hello.
I'm looking for a new phone, my budget is around 340 USD and therefore Honor 8 has really caught my eye. I'd like to ask a couple questions.
1. Is the bootloader unlock process problematic? Have you faced any issues with it or is it hassle-free? Coming from an LG device, I want to be extra careful with this.
2. I plan to have this device for a longer period of time, around 3-4 years. Is Honor 8 a viable choice, despite the fact that it will soon be a year from the release? Will it be able to hold off for that long, in terms of ROM support and general performance/usage?
3. How do custom ROM development prospects look right now for the device? From what I've seen, Huawei still hasn't released sources for Nougat. Can I expect good custom ROM support from this device?
4. How satisfied are you with your phone? Would you recommend it to me? Are there anything you don't like about the phone?
Thanks in advance.
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You can easily get a code from Huawei to unlock the bootloader, but there's not much point to rooting the phone with development on it pretty nonexistent.
The hardware is really nice. The phone's a great size, the CPU is a beast, the GPU kind of sucks (but that doesn't matter if you're not playing new/demanding games on it like me), but the security updates are TERRIBLE. The most recent software update for the US version of the phone came out in the beginning of January. So we're almost four months into the year and the December 1st security patch is the most recent one available.
If you'd be happy with Nougat 7.0/EMUI 5.0 in a year from now and don't do anything that having security up to date matters it's fine, but otherwise I'd look elsewhere.

Android 9 - not soon

First hello to everyone,
I was wondering if this time will be the same as it was with G6 so I asked support and they answerd this
I qoute
Good afternoon Alen,*
Thank you for your query regarding your LG G7;*
I have had a look into this for you and sadly as we are an in warranty repair centre this is not something that we get advance notice on. As LG handsets only got Android 8 a few months ago I am guessing that this would be at some point in the early quarter of next year.*
Once the android version is created it then has to go to the individual manufacturers who then test for compatibility and will rework anything which causes issues and then the testing on handsets begins and I am led to believe that this is a length process.*
The likely hood is that the update will be on the handsets before we even know that it has been released.*
So when it comes to update, even with "lg's new update center" thing will be the same.
And to be clear i don't hate or something, I am okey with my device preformances this is more discussion type post cuz as i remember lg said that this new center sill get us update faster and clearly thats not the case
Sorry for typos
There is some hysteria on having the latest software, but in fact it is even better if the software actually works, hence the lenghty process of testing before release. Android Pie for instance is still very buggy for those vendors who are releasing early public test versions.
The current 10f-version of Android 8.0 seems pretty stable on the G7, and has minimum battery drain. As long as they are following up with regular security patches as they are released, there is nothing much to complain about. I'd rather take a problem free Android Pie early next year than be ridden with bugs up til then.
xeizo said:
There is some hysteria on having the latest software, but in fact it is even better if the software actually works, hence the lenghty process of testing before release. Android Pie for instance is still very buggy for those vendors who are releasing early public test versions.
The current 10f-version of Android 8.0 seems pretty stable on the G7, and has minimum battery drain. As long as they are following up with regular security patches as they are released, there is nothing much to complain about. I'd rather take a problem free Android Pie early next year than be ridden with bugs up til then.
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I could not agree more to this. Software upgrades are a nice thing if they take the time to run it stable. I prefer stable software and better security above that. Thats why i left Sony for one reason tru unstable releases that took long time to fix or not and a phone that loose hes full functuality with crashes or connection problems at most important times is a pain.Untill now my G6 did fine and my G7.Be patient and be happy your G7 is a trusty companion on the way.
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This is why Apple products are expensive and maintain their value. Long term Seamless updates across all devices, regions and carriers. Android OEMs need to stop modifying Android and just use stock software route. No one wants bloat and gimmick features at the expense of slow updates that may never come. They pretty much do this to market new devices and screw us.
xeizo said:
There is some hysteria on having the latest software, but in fact it is even better if the software actually works, hence the lenghty process of testing before release. Android Pie for instance is still very buggy for those vendors who are releasing early public test versions.
The current 10f-version of Android 8.0 seems pretty stable on the G7, and has minimum battery drain. As long as they are following up with regular security patches as they are released, there is nothing much to complain about. I'd rather take a problem free Android Pie early next year than be ridden with bugs up til then.
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The T-Mobile variant is on the July 1 security patch, as of the time of this post it is 84 days behind. Not looking good
Support rarely if ever gets any info about things like software releases up until they actually come out. Until LG actually makes a statement it is best to just be patient.
yankeesfan714 said:
The T-Mobile variant is on the July 1 security patch, as of the time of this post it is 84 days behind. Not looking good
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Even my G7+ (India Variant) is on june security patch. At least security updates have to be released if not OS updates. Every money transfer is don't online nowadays, LG should take it seriously. Also there is still no 4k 60 fps update that rest of the world got.
Android P on the G7? Don't hold your breath. At the earliest, I'd say March of 2019. More realistically is May/June however. LG is quite terrible with Android updates.
8bitbang said:
This is why Apple products are expensive and maintain their value. Long term Seamless updates across all devices, regions and carriers. Android OEMs need to stop modifying Android and just use stock software route. No one wants bloat and gimmick features at the expense of slow updates that may never come. They pretty much do this to market new devices and screw us.
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Seamless? Hardly. They have had numerous issues with updates.
Apple products are expensive because people are fan boys and will pay a lot of money for questionable tech. They don't even include fast chargers. They are seperate and very expensive.
This computer repairman who has worked on Apple products for years should be required viewing before buying Apple products.
https://www.youtube.com/user/rossmanngroup
fernando sor said:
Seamless? Hardly. They have had numerous issues with updates.
Apple products are expensive because people are fan boys and will pay a lot of money for questionable tech. They don't even include fast chargers. They are seperate and very expensive.
This computer repairman who has worked on Apple products for years should be required viewing before buying Apple products.
https://www.youtube.com/user/rossmanngroup
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Pixel devices are the best representation of Android. They receive monthly updates, have no bloat and long term update support when compared to every other OEM. LG has always been behind updates and there's no excuse for that except they would rather sell you another device. We have let OEMs be ok with poor device support because we don't demand more. That's the definition of a fanboy, last time I checked we had to sue LG to get their **** done right
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbre...oop-lawsuit-settlement-g4-v10-v20-nexus-5x-g5
Google even attempted to help some Nexus 6p users migrate to the Google pixel and that didn't require a lawsuit to make it happen
8bitbang said:
Pixel devices are the best representation of Android. They receive monthly updates, have no bloat and long term update support when compared to every other OEM. LG has always been behind updates and there's no excuse for that except they would rather sell you another device. We have let OEMs be ok with poor device support because we don't demand more. That's the definition of a fanboy, last time I checked we had to sue LG to get their **** done right
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbre...oop-lawsuit-settlement-g4-v10-v20-nexus-5x-g5
Google even attempted to help some Nexus 6p users migrate to the Google pixel and that didn't require a lawsuit to make it happen
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Yeah unfortunately I was stuck with tmobile. I agree the pixel is the way to go.
The only issue I have with the Pixel is Google using it to push there cloud storage. That's why they won't put SD card slots on them. And I'm sorry but despite the fact it's 2018 we are still not a 100% connected world, not to mention at least in the US almost every carrier has data limits. Plus there are some that don't want to put everything they own up in the cloud. SD card storage is really the only reason I won't buy a Pixel.
And don't even mention USB-c adapters, I shouldn't have to carry around extra crap for more storage!
Void4ever
Apple have good products but not good for 1000 $ or more. They do update older models but we all know that they also made older phones go slower and there was problems with battery drain ect.
I am from Bosnia so here Iphones are really expensive and i mean it. Also Pixel is just a little bit cheaper.
I really like LG phones, after my HTC I had G4 G5 G6 and now G7. If I hadnt drop my G6 and brooke it I wouldnt even go to G7.
For the money you get good quality phone, nice specs and I dont mind ux cuz i am not fan of that rounded look on stock android.
I went and took Huawei p20 after my g6 and I had it for a day then returned it give more money and bought G7 cuz p20 is like toy compared to g7.
And even updates are not that big of a deal for me but what i mind is that they promised that big update center for faster updates and now not that we wont get android 9 for a while but as you guys said we are still on july patch.
I know that its better to wait for stable versions but they could be more efficiant with patches.
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sooner then u think
Take a look
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Take a look
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Man you have your phone number and the imei number visible in the screenshot. If I were you I would remove them.
And you're using a custom rom so that is not the official update.
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Man you have your phone number and the imei number visible in the screenshot. If I were you I would remove them.
And you're using a custom rom so that is not the official update.
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thats obviously not my phone number , it somehow always fails to read it out and shows this number , no matter what sim card i put in the phone my real number ends on 59 , and woooahhh you got my imei and what r u gonna do with it i have the bill for the phone with imei my name etc so it gives you nothing
J0SH1X said:
thats obviously not my phone number , it somehow always fails to read it out and shows this number , no matter what sim card i put in the phone my real number ends on 59 , and woooahhh you got my imei and what r u gonna do with it i have the bill for the phone with imei my name etc so it gives you nothing
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If that's not your real phone number good for you. If you put your IMEI number on purpose and you know what the risks are, good for you. My message was to let you know in case you forgot about it.
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If that's not your real phone number good for you. If you put your IMEI number on purpose and you know what the risks are, good for you. My message was to let you know in case you forgot about it.
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thx buddy
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Hi, how did u installed this custom rom?
Anyway, official Android Pie looks to be way forward from now. LG V40 was just released, with Android 8.1 .....
On the bright side, for those with smart watches using Google Wear so was Wear OS 2.0 just released and it is entirely based on 8.0 Oreo. I suppose handsets with Android 8.0 will have a more bug free experience using those watches.

When are we getting Pie?

HTC said they will let us know soon about dates when Pie will be released but it's been forever ago.
Also is the U12 xda scene dead or HTC themselves dead? I know the way the U12 handles everything, it's tough to makes roms for it etc. Or maybe not many really bothered to even buy the phone because HTC is just not doing well. HTC needs to fix themselves. Get with the norm. Bessless phones, wireless charging etc. Make a phone that blows every other phone out the water with fantastic marketing and they'll get back to the top.
Marketing isn't going to happen. Did you even compare how much money HTC owns, with how expensive global marketing is. Obviously not, cause we got to accept the fact, that marketing isn't an option for HTC to grow.
Sent from my HTC U12+ using XDA Labs
Funny how the discussions aremore lively in the U11 area. Anyhow, I saw a great deal on a u12+ today and despite hunting for an s9+ 256gb Duos, I was tempted and then ran here to verify if it got Pie. Shocking that it has not, which means more than likely my u11 is OOL with the last update having been made in Dec 2017.
The apparent thing is that HTC is contacting its smartphone business and its Asian models- its core market- are being ignored for updates, so that tells me everything.
If the current U12 isn't being updated, then the u11 is out, and I am onto Samsung. I can wait until the s10 is announced, then s9 prices will fall. Same for the u12 128. I like the Edge and the cameras. They keep me connected to the phone, but security and future support seems to have been ended.
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HTC said they will let us know soon about dates when Pie will be released but it's been forever ago.
Also is the U12 xda scene dead or HTC themselves dead? I know the way the U12 handles everything, it's tough to makes roms for it etc. Or maybe not many really bothered to even buy the phone because HTC is just not doing well. HTC needs to fix themselves. Get with the norm. Bessless phones, wireless charging etc. Make a phone that blows every other phone out the water with fantastic marketing and they'll get back to the top.
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Pie is coming, be patient...
@maslaq where you have found this table?
Someone well informed from taiwan just sent me
maslaq said:
Someone well informed from taiwan just sent me
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Do you follow this guy on any social app?
maslaq said:
Pie is coming, be patient...
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HTC U11 life has been upgraded to Android Pie.
https://www.xda-developers.com/htc-u11-life-android-pie-update/
This list is just a clickbait of random website.
maslaq said:
Pie is coming, be patient...
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Link to this tweet?
GaetanoS.89 said:
Do you follow this guy on any social app?
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No.
Just wait patiently.
Stano36 said:
HTC U11 life has been upgraded to Android Pie.
https://www.xda-developers.com/htc-u11-life-android-pie-update/
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I think there are two versions of the U11 Life, one with Android One (which has already been update), and one with stock Sense (which has not).
For those bashing people about being unreasonable about expectations for security and software updates, HTC has a binding Federal Trade Commission settlement due to past issues in providing security updates. The FTC also performs inspections of the company every two years as part of the settlement.
https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/pre...-ftc-charges-it-failed-secure-millions-mobile
My guess is that if HTC is violating this judgement, the smartphone division is in trouble or maybe it's planning to pull out of the US at a minimum. Since there's a judgement, if you're in the US, you could contact the FTC to see if there is current compliance with the settlement terms.
Have any of you seen some of the complaints about Pie? I'm not so sure I'm in an all fired hurry to get it and I am one that is usually chomping at the bit for the latest OS update. It also seems that the issue with our delay is Sense. I don't know much about the Life versions of the U11 and the U12 but I'm guessing they don't have the same version of Sense or any Sense. I'm just guessing here because from what I've been seeing from people testing beta versions and some that have the full version it doesn't play nice with launchers.
https://twitter.com/LlabTooFeR/status/1095945078655332352
A new update is coming, but not Pie.
An update, any update is taking entirely too long
Ndaoud360 said:
HTC said they will let us know soon about dates when Pie will be released but it's been forever ago.
Also is the U12 xda scene dead or HTC themselves dead? I know the way the U12 handles everything, it's tough to makes roms for it etc. Or maybe not many really bothered to even buy the phone because HTC is just not doing well. HTC needs to fix themselves. Get with the norm. Bessless phones, wireless charging etc. Make a phone that blows every other phone out the water with fantastic marketing and they'll get back to the top.
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Have any of you seen some of the complaints about Pie? I'm not so sure I'm in an all fired hurry to get it and I am one that is usually chomping at the bit for the latest OS update. It also seems that the issue with our delay is Sense. I don't know much about the Life versions of the U11 and the U12 but I'm guessing they don't have the same version of Sense or any Sense. I'm just guessing here because from what I've been seeing from people testing beta versions and some that have the full version it doesn't play nice with launchers.
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For the 500th time: Android OS updates and sexurity updates are separate, with HTC delinquent on the latter, coupling them to former. This is why people are upset. The security updates are actually mandatory for HTC's compliance with a settlement with the Federal Trade Commission in the US and why we bexame accustomed to them being on top of things. Lack of compliance with the settlement is indicating the company is not going in a good direction.
Again: OS updates and security updates are not the same thing and people want both, often calling for the former in order to get the latter.
I Think The King is over and HTC on end of way.......i buy htc device from hd2 to this u11+ and u12+ but i think we should search for other king for use
I dropped my U11 a few days ago and looked around for a different brands but just couldn't cut the apron strings with HTC so bought a U12+. Love it so far but i'm pretty sure this purely familiarity on my part as there are some cracking phones around for less right now but the update situation, both security & pie is dismal especially with no comm's from htc itsself, that's just sloppy & extremely bad form...
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I dropped my U11 a few days ago and looked around for a different brands but just couldn't cut the apron strings with HTC so bought a U12+. Love it so far but i'm pretty sure this purely familiarity on my part as there are some cracking phones around for less right now but the update situation, both security & pie is dismal especially with no comm's from htc itsself, that's just sloppy & extremely bad form...
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I was just saying in another thread that the UI, namely Sense, was a key factor in my picking this device. The specs aren't bad either and the look was the talk of the town, not that it influenced me as much as the substance of the device, but it darn sure didn't hurt.
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I Think The King is over and HTC on end of way.......i buy htc device from hd2 to this u11+ and u12+ but i think we should search for other king for use
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I'd love to hear from other HTC fans like me what their thoughts are on the next device. Honestly I'm kind of stumped on this one and given great pause at the thought of leaving. I've had some sour experiences with Moto and Sammy but that was back in the flip phone days. That Sony phone awhile back looked pretty good until I read about its custom UI. Huawei has some interesting devices and with HTC I never had to consider screen notches. Motos and their battery life issues, not that HTC always got it right. Sammys have a lot of features, some are even pretty cool, eye tracking for screen scroll, blink gestures but... Anyone really got any strong hopefuls?

HTC , Android 9 pie update status (finally)

Hello guys ,
Eventually the date of the update was clear. Congratulations for HTC. I had hoped to get the Android Q update.
https://www.facebook.com/101063233083/posts/10159086719528084/
We want to share the release schedule of the Android Pie updates for #HTC smartphones. Please note, certain regions & carrier deployment may affect these dates. U11 rollout will begin late May, 2019; U11+ will begin late June, 2019; U12+ will begin mid-June, 2019. Thank you.
Electro58 said:
Hello guys ,
Yesterday on Facebook shared the post about the update status on HTC official page. But after 5 minutes they wiped. I copied this post.
We wanted to share with you the status on the Android 9 update.
HTC is currently working on ensuring the update is compatible with our phones and we anticipate a release to customers of U12+ and U11+ models starting Q2 of 2019.
Please note, the exact timing defers to the mobile operators' availabilities in different countries.
What do you think about this?
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Not really sure but the news today said that HTC is now negotiating with some companies in India for selling their brand. If so, it is no ground to post that message in the FB.
I do really hope my U11+ can get pie.
Only problem with that statement for UK anyway, the U11+ was only available from HTC direct. So mobile operators would have no input or changes to make. We've all been waiting long enough now they really should be releasing information.
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Back in February, we wrote about the disappearance of the HTC Mail app from the Play Store, but it was quickly restored. More recently, we received a tip about the Sense Home launcher also vanishing, but closer inspection shows that a total of 14 HTC apps have been unpublished in the last three months.
Looking at the latest HTC Corporation activity in App Brain, we can see that the Sense Home launcher and contacts app People were unpublished just this month. 12 more apps, including Calendar, Dot View, and Speak suffered a similar fate in February, while the Mail app that went and then returned is once again conspicuous by its absence.
https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/...the-play-store-including-calendar-and-people/
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What can we except form HTC? Are they dead? New skin? RIP HTC?
Potentially dead. The Pie update is very late now. They seem to be moving away from phones too. I have a feeling we may not get Pie as HTC concentrates it's resources else where. This is the first HTC phone I've been truly disappointed with and will certainly be my last. Already looking to one+ for my next phone.
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Reach out to HTC and ask them for the source code, easy to build a pie/q rom and even keep up community support long after.
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HTC don't pay me to do that though do they? If you bought a laptop and Asus or Apple chucked you a CD and said, you're getting no updates so there's the source code, fix any driver compatibility issues, flaws in the programming or security breaches yourself would you be happy with that?
I've paid them for a phone on the understanding I'd get HDR and Android updates. It took almost a year to fix the notification bug they created and they have pushed zero security patches other than those included with an update.
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HTC don't pay me to do that though do they? If you bought a laptop and Asus or Apple chucked you a CD and said, you're getting no updates so there's the source code, fix any driver compatibility issues, flaws in the programming or security breaches yourself would you be happy with that?
I've paid them for a phone on the understanding I'd get HDR and Android updates. It took almost a year to fix the notification bug they created and they have pushed zero security patches other than those included with an update.
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Yep, how truly i still hope it will get better honestly i am loosing my hopes i had. I've been using HTC phone even when they were creating phones under the name Qtek. Always stood by them and was always an enthusiastic supporter but i truly - with so much pain - believe it will only get worse in support. Although phones still rock this baby will almost certainly be my last HTC phone where presumably i too will be moving over towards OnePlus..
It is really sad but perhaps better, since I don't think any brand really can survive against the money Apple and Samsung are spending to buy customers.. i hope they will survive with VR..
I've been with HTC since the Touch HD so not as long as you. Back then they were innovators. The HD2 showed a phone could run two os and then we had the m7 with ultra pixel camera ( although the pink tint issue was a big problem) and the m8 led the way again with camera tech.
HTC promised updates within 90 days when they initially streamlined the amount of phones they were going to produce and now present day with no updates, finally a post stating there will be updates beginning Q2 and then nothing...
They can't completely blame it on carriers as the U11+ in Europe at least was a HTC direct phone. So where's the update? No where close is my guess. It seems they just string us along in the hope we get bored.
I don't agree that companies can't compete with apple and Samsung. There's plenty of smaller manufacturers doing a better job than HTC and in that sense HTC deserves everything it gets for failing it's customers.
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matty538 said:
I've been with HTC since the Touch HD so not as long as you. Back then they were innovators. The HD2 showed a phone could run two os and then we had the m7 with ultra pixel camera ( although the pink tint issue was a big problem) and the m8 led the way again with camera tech.
HTC promised updates within 90 days when they initially streamlined the amount of phones they were going to produce and now present day with no updates, finally a post stating there will be updates beginning Q2 and then nothing...
They can't completely blame it on carriers as the U11+ in Europe at least was a HTC direct phone. So where's the update? No where close is my guess. It seems they just string us along in the hope we get bored.
I don't agree that companies can't compete with apple and Samsung. There's plenty of smaller manufacturers doing a better job than HTC and in that sense HTC deserves everything it gets for failing it's customers.
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True, although it didn't succeed both Sony and LG where perhaps LG still has a position, but Sony left the battlefield quite quietly its a pitty and indeed was so much fun with the HD2 and M7. Both i still have and both still work where the HD2 is running MM. Had it even with Windows Phone 7 running.. ahh what the heck, OnePlus 7 pro looks great, so perhaps a worthy replacement.. presentation is 14th May apparently.
The only thing putting me off the oneplus 7 pro is the pop up selfie camera. Not sure how I feel about it. Other than that it seems a decent spec from the leaks we've had. Not long to wait though and with nothing forthcoming on the HTC update front looks like I may jump ship before it gets pushed. This has been by far the worst experience I've had with a phone provider and I can't recall ever wanting to get rid of a phone as quick as this one.
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I'd say that an absolute lack of any info - not a single leak - about their next phone is a pretty good indication that they're out of the smartphone business. And therefore lack of the update is also highly likely, though... even if they sold off their smartphone department the new owner might conduct it (if the code is already more or less created) for the sake of keeping the image.
Anyway, that's for 99% also my last - though only second... - HTC, even though that's a nearly perfect phone for me and I don't care much for updates (especially with those newer Androids that seem to differ less and less). Why then? Well, last time when I was that satisfied with a phone - with my previous One M7 - I kept using it for over 4 years, and would likely continue if it wasn't for the battery. Now I've had the U11+ for over 1 year - and I don't think there'll be any new HTCs in 2022. Sad, as I can't see a proper alternative right now, so I have to hope for something really new.
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Only problem with that statement for UK anyway, the U11+ was only available from HTC direct. So mobile operators would have no input or changes to make. We've all been waiting long enough now they really should be releasing information.
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Sadly HTC use mushroom communications at best these days
Sorry guys, HTC had been disappointing with support and updates. I have to ditch U11+.
Personally I think HTC had ditches us the loyal supported without providing any security patches since 2017. This make us all expose to all kind of vulnerability possible, too bad.
I am wishing those that still think that HTC has a chance coming back, good luck guys.
I don't think anyone is under any illusion as to what's going to happen. Android Q is already in beta testing for about 13 manufacturers and HTC can't even release Android Pie. Once I've found a new phone I like I will be jumping this sinking ship.
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Wait for "Late June"
Finally! The update will come. It would be nice if it actually comes from Android Q. Waiting for Pie to come after Q
Definitely won't come with Q, and a pretty poor show from HTC. Probably being the last to roll out Pie when they used to say updates within 90 days.
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Pie update in Taiwan, soft bricking some devices https://www.droid-life.com/2019/06/05/htc-pulls-pie-update-for-u11/
Brilliant HTC are far behind everyone else in releasing Pie and when they do release it, it screws up some phones. Very generous of HTC offering to fix phones borked my their own mistake. I mean really! That's the least they should be doing.
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Is Losing Security Updates Concerning?

I'm on a GS8+ and while I'd rather be on a Pixel or iPhone I honestly have no real complaints about the phone now with One UI (which is fantastic BTW) The only reason I'm anxious to upgrade is bc I'm not sure with my US unlocked model I'll continue to get any security updates past my April patch. I'd love some expert opinions on the real danger if I don't upgrade any time soon. The phone is great, I'd say fully optimized, and 2 years later may actually be better than it was new. I just don't like running hardware that doesn't continue to have security support. With the way Play runs now with added security layers and continued app and components being updated through the Play Store, do I have anything to really be concerned about????
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I'm on a GS8+ and while I'd rather be on a Pixel or iPhone I honestly have no real complaints about the phone now with One UI (which is fantastic BTW) The only reason I'm anxious to upgrade is bc I'm not sure with my US unlocked model I'll continue to get any security updates past my April patch. I'd love some expert opinions on the real danger if I don't upgrade any time soon. The phone is great, I'd say fully optimized, and 2 years later may actually be better than it was new. I just don't like running hardware that doesn't continue to have security support. With the way Play runs now with added security layers and continued app and components being updated through the Play Store, do I have anything to really be concerned about????
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You think One Ui is great?
I'm really trying to get a better sense about this... Im still on Orero... Been reading alot of complaints about pie and one ui...
I did read however that OneUI is currently better than pixel Pie
cantenna said:
You think One Ui is great?
I'm really trying to get a better sense about this... Im still on Orero... Been reading alot of complaints about pie and one ui...
I did read however that OneUI is currently better than pixel Pie
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Yeah, it's by far the best version I've ever seen that's not pure Android, in some ways I like it more bc of the focus on one handed usage especially on large screens it doesn't force you to stretch across the entire display. I also like the gestures way better than the current Pixel version, and based on what I've heard about Qs current beta I don't know if that's going to change.

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