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[Q] New WP7 devices?

Hi dear,
I'm currently using Samsung Omnia 7 but I'm going to sell it and want to get new WP7 device.
I didn't like any phones with qwerty keyboard but after I saw LG Quantum I've liked it! it's so cute and sexy as well.
But when I was looking for some information about LG quantum, I read some articles and threads about new WP7 devices.
Do you guys think it will be coming out soon like in August or September?
and will it have duel core CPU and better GPU for XBOX gaming?
I know actually WP7 OS doesn't need the high spec but just I want to get Today's phone.
The most important feature that I care is a front face camera. Does anyone know about new WP7 device with front face camera?
Please give me some answers to make a good decision.
I also heard Mango update will be coming to current WP7 devices but the language supports(Especially East Asian languagues as I'm Korean) won't be on 1st gen wp7 devices. Please let me know what is right what is wrong.
Thanks guys. Too many questions, eh? Sorry about it.

Please anybody answer me!

The LG quantum was in the first wave of wp7 phones released by ATT. There are no dual core phones on spec for this year. It may be possible that some of the mango phones will have front cameras, but most likely will be next year at least. I haven't heard anything on language support not coming to 1st gen phones with mango, it is a software upgrade no reason why it shouldn't be there. Good luck

Mango has support for FFC's, so I would almost guarantee one or more of the OEM's will release a flashship Windows Phone device with a front facing camera during the Mango wave. There will also be some dual core phones this year, but again this will likely come with Mango devices.
We will know a lot more as to when we can expect Mango's release (and therefore new devices) on the 24th, when MS makes their announcements.

dont go for lg, the smiley logo looks so cheap.

Thanks guys.
But I already made an order for LG optimus 7q(quantum).. T.T
Some said its body quality and qwerty keyboard is so nice so I just decided to get it.
Anyway, it's very sad to hear that new device with front face camera will be releasing!
If I knew that I wouldn't order it .... Damn IT!
But is it coming in October or November?

And what is the FFC's??
Could you please explain me about it?

FFC=front facing camera
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@OP
I've got WP7 on my HD2 and love it, and I've had my HD2 for quite a while and it replaced my Touch Pro (slide out querty) and I miss the keyboard...
Even though the touchscreen keyboards are getting much better, especially on large 4.3" screens, I still like the feeling of keys under my thumbs...
I think you made a good choice... When my contract is up I'll likely forgo my big screen for the LG... Unless I can get my hands on an HTC 7 Pro...

argentocruz said:
@OP
I've got WP7 on my HD2 and love it, and I've had my HD2 for quite a while and it replaced my Touch Pro (slide out querty) and I miss the keyboard...
Even though the touchscreen keyboards are getting much better, especially on large 4.3" screens, I still like the feeling of keys under my thumbs...
I think you made a good choice... When my contract is up I'll likely forgo my big screen for the LG... Unless I can get my hands on an HTC 7 Pro...
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Thank you. I will not be regret haha
Actually I like the qwerty keyboard as I have a same reason as you.

munkeyphyst said:
FFC=front facing camera
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Oh I see. But I never heard about it.
Could you give me any links?

jorkobe23 said:
Oh I see. But I never heard about it.
Could you give me any links?
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i don't have a link handy, but you can read your first and third posts in this thread where you talk about it
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dtboos said:
Mango has support for FFC's, so I would almost guarantee one or more of the OEM's will release a flashship Windows Phone device with a front facing camera during the Mango wave. There will also be some dual core phones this year, but again this will likely come with Mango devices.
We will know a lot more as to when we can expect Mango's release (and therefore new devices) on the 24th, when MS makes their announcements.
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Would love to see where either of the above had been confirmed (or even leaked) for Mango. I follow this stuff pretty closely and haven't seen anything that suggested support for a front facing camera, and the MIX2011 information did not have Mango supporting anything other than single core snapdragon SoCs.

Yeah that's what I meant.
I've read article about wp7 every day but havent seen or read any news about FFC.
I think I can wait for 3rd gen wp7 which will be with apolo as the hardware requirement is not way far from current devices.
I'd like my LG quantum.

I would wait until 2012 or late 2011. The 4 core ARM Cortex-A9 processor will have hopefully been adopted by Microsoft for WP7 standards.

Doesn't the announcement of Skype coming to mango imply front facing cameras?
http://m.wpcentral.com/microsoft-show-mango-announce-new-dev-tools-skype-layar-and-more
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munkeyphyst said:
Doesn't the announcement of Skype coming to mango imply front facing cameras?
http://m.wpcentral.com/microsoft-show-mango-announce-new-dev-tools-skype-layar-and-more
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I don't think so.
We should just wait until 24th.

ICS on Nokia N9

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ponaehOrFN8

great...that just made nokia less ****ty.

looks great

That looks amazing.
The devs are amazing, how can they do that?
I wonder if it would be possible to put Gingerbread on a Nokia N8.
Good day to you all.

Is there any howtos ?

why Nokia still does not want to use the system for its Android gadgets ...

akeka said:
Is there any howtos ?
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Google "Nokia N9 ICS nitdroid".
niksan29 said:
why Nokia still does not want to use the system for its Android gadgets ...
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I think it has to do something with the CEO or some boss named Elop coming from Microsoft and the Microsoft-Nokia deal they have.

Wow that's beatiful

egg_n_ham said:
great...that just made nokia less ****ty.
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Thats very interesting, I got N9 just because I don' want to play with ****ty, buggy and laggy android. It's working faster and better than every dual-core droid, even it has GPU from 2005.
Anyway I wanted to point-out again, a beautiful triple boot phone deserves it's own thread...

cool

available in UK .?

Please discuss new 3D camera in newly XZ1;possible port before get it in Oreo update?

News from XZ1 annouce is very excited me about 3d camera, beyond that it is good news that after XZP get Oreo update it will equip with this features. So my guest is it is not hardware so i create thread to discuss about possibility to port this from XZ1 to XZP any thought?

About XZ1 news
https://next.reality.news/news/sony-xperia-xz1-boasts-3d-scanning-capabilities-0179759/
About good news for XZP features when update to Oreo
http://www.techradar.com/news/sony-...l-get-3d-scan-skills-with-android-oreo-update

Lol i was about to sell my xzp..
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Mangtas_666 said:
Lol i was about to sell my xzp..
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Dam really why did you want to? i just got mine and its awesome.

3D creator app is going to be available on the XZP.
Says so here:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2017/09/01/sonys-3d-creator-app-is-coming-to-the-xz-premium
Other changes include autofocus burst and the predictive capture features.

They should release those features to Premium. I mean XZP is superior to these phones they released. Plus I think they sold many XZP devices.
Mainly people will buy it because of smaller screen. I see everyone is talking about bezels so I think it's time for Sony to go for a design change.

Really whats to stop them rolling out 8.0 on our XZP straight after the XZ1... aren't they are identical aside from battery and screen. its the sony apps that switch res right? but I guess even if that were right We have already bought the XZP and 8.0 is a tool to sell a new phone.
CKkio23 said:
Dam really why did you want to? i just got mine and its awesome.
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Camera distortions, annoying software notifications and icon numbers and some you'll need to agree to extra stuff before you can even stop them and even though I am on the latest FW I find the fingerprint reader pretty hit or miss sometimes it works flawless other times it have to resort to pin coz it give me a too many attempts message.... and I have my thumb done twice to try to help stop that

Yes i know as i said that it will gain this features after updated to Oreo late on. But i think it should have to way to get it earlier or extract from XZ1, any ideas?

When will XZ Premium get Android Pie?

Does anyone know when will we get Android Pie update on our phones?

"It's done when it's done"
- 3D Realms

VBBoston said:
Does anyone know when will we get Android Pie update on our phones?
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Seems unlikely, as there isn't any formal nod that XZ range are getting 8.1 yet.
Maybe end of the year

I got my update notification today

It only depends if Sony decides to skip 8.1 or not.
XZP is entitled for one more version upgrade if I'm not mistaken, either 8.1 or 9.
But since they didn't release 8.1 for any model yet, maybe they skip it and go for the 9 instead, which would be nice. 8.1 really isn't much of an upgrade, anyways, it does seem pointless to spend dev time and resources into pushing it.
I'm happy with Oreo as it is, but I would like if we got the new launcher they are developong for P, and see how they handle gesture navigation. Removing the bottom navigation bar would give us more screen realestate, but somehow I doubt they will do that for older devices, even with new launcher. Not to mention getting the latest Camera apk and API, XZP and XZ1 can handle the processing used in XZ2 lineup, it's just a matter of software.

8.1 is already released in march security update. Thats why xposed framework bugs out
XZ premium will get android p. Xperia z3 had 4.4, 5.0, 5.1, 6.0, nougat test
XZ p only had 7.1, 8.0
P also support 120hz by standard so can't wait

Beetle84 said:
I got my update notification today
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Wut? For Android 9?
Atrax2010 said:
I'm happy with Oreo as it is, but I would like if we got the new launcher they are developong for P, and see how they handle gesture navigation. Removing the bottom navigation bar would give us more screen realestate, but somehow I doubt they will do that for older devices, even with new launcher. Not to mention getting the latest Camera apk and API, XZP and XZ1 can handle the processing used in XZ2 lineup, it's just a matter of software.
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I prefer they give us more screen realestate with a larger screen in the next one rather than smaller bezels and a notch. I can't rap my head around some of the stupidest things being pushed into the industry that none of their customers asked for. Seeing the XZ2 Premium though, I don't think they are going to be making many more phones.

amakuramio said:
8.1 is already released in march security update. Thats why xposed framework bugs out
XZ premium will get android p. Xperia z3 had 4.4, 5.0, 5.1, 6.0, nougat test
XZ p only had 7.1, 8.0
P also support 120hz by standard so can't wait
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Wait so will we get a 120hz option on this device by default when p drops?

RJASSI21 said:
Wait so will we get a 120hz option on this device by default when p drops?
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Yes, a Japanese blog also hinted on it
Xz2 premium has 144 hz screen even

amakuramio said:
Yes, a Japanese blog also hinted on it
Xz2 premium has 144 hz screen even
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If so that's gonna be awesome as heck. That's gonna be amazing cus I've wanted this feature. Like the xz2p has 144hz tho that's alot on a phone. If we get to experience 120hz on this phone though that makes it more worthy.

Hi.
I just read this news. It's coming in September. It will be rolling to many devices and xz premium from them.
It is coming soon

Now android p is a part of sony open devices program and you can build android p for open devices.

This is edited : Android Pie will be available on September for Xperia XZ premium ; XZ1 compact ; XZ1 ; XZ2 premium ; XZ2 compact and XZ2

The rollout of Pie will begin in September for listed devices and will continue till November/December, so I doubt the XZP (the oldest on the list) will get it in September.
That being said, it's getting it either way which is really great.
Couple of things I would like from this upgrade: ditching the navigation buttons at the bottom for more usable screen realestate, updated camera app and processing algorythms from XZ2 and the new launcher Sony is working on, but I don't think they planned it for Pie release.
Also, one thing that boggled my mind since the phone was released, not giving us the option to lower the framerate of super slowmo videos so you could actually use that thing. Capturing at the right moment at 960FPS for a second is next to impossible. Great feature, backed by smart powerfull hardware, botched by software. There is no legit reason why I shouldn't be able to lower the framerate to let's say 450FPS and still make some badass slowmo shots. If it can do 960, it can do less for a longer time, but nobody at Sony thought of that simple thing. Pretty much business as usual with Sony's camera apps.

Atrax2010 said:
The rollout of Pie will begin in September for listed devices and will continue till November/December, so I doubt the XZP (the oldest on the list) will get it in September.
That being said, it's getting it either way which is really great.
Couple of things I would like from this upgrade: ditching the navigation buttons at the bottom for more usable screen realestate, updated camera app and processing algorythms from XZ2 and the new launcher Sony is working on, but I don't think they planned it for Pie release.
Also, one thing that boggled my mind since the phone was released, not giving us the option to lower the framerate of super slowmo videos so you could actually use that thing. Capturing at the right moment at 960FPS for a second is next to impossible. Great feature, backed by smart powerfull hardware, botched by software. There is no legit reason why I shouldn't be able to lower the framerate to let's say 450FPS and still make some badass slowmo shots. If it can do 960, it can do less for a longer time, but nobody at Sony thought of that simple thing. Pretty much business as usual with Sony's camera apps.
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I'm guessing the order would be, XZ2, XZ PREMIUM and finally XZ1 since well the x Premium is well Premium and it costed more

https://www.gsmarena.com/sony_reveals_which_phones_will_get_updated_to_android_90_pie-news-32818.php

Try to install hotspot app.

90days after the relase
So in first week of november

Nokia smartphones may soon get Night Mode...

Read the news HERE
Lets see how much "improvement" there will be... And hopefully to all phones...

Any news or leaks to when it will be available, would be nice to have a good nokia camera update haven't had update on a long time and the update still made it turd

Found APK, installed but won't work lol

carlosthwaites said:
Found APK, installed but won't work lol
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I don't think that's the new Nokia Camera as the one which is torn down on NPU.

SirGarmaples said:
I don't think that's the new Nokia Camera as the one which is torn down on NPU.
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Yes your right

Tomar777 said:
Read the news HERE
Lets see how much "improvement" there will be... And hopefully to all phones...
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Is it possible Nokia developing on Gcam port? Who knows...

i dont think Google is going to give its precious algorithm to other manufacturers. It would be a disaster for sales on new Pixel 3a/XL.
But HDR+ is mentioned on this article HERE so its pretty much going that way. How good it will be, we wait and see.
You can read why the APK crashed on N7+ in the article, libs are missing.

Tomar777 said:
i dont think Google is going to give its precious algorithm to other manufacturers. It would be a disaster for sales on new Pixel 3a/XL.
But HDR+ is mentioned on this article HERE so its pretty much going that way. How good it will be, we wait and see.
You can read why the APK crashed on N7+ in the article, libs are missing.
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I'm sure Google won't just give algorithms because that's what makes Pixel a "Pixel". Same with Google Camera, it's their own branding so technically Nokia can't just modify a port and sell phones with it. Sure it's open source that's why devs can modify them, but there's just a lot of tech going on there. HDR+ though has been used in other phones already (Zenfone 6, I think?), so let's see where Nokia is going with this.
My highest hopes, though, are on camera quality fixes especially with the current awful white balance. P3 AWB mod of GCam is the closest workaround, but it'll be nice if the device camera module or driver (or whatever) itself gets corrected.