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[Q] Quickest way to use tap and pay?

So, I'm sure I could figure this out by playing with my phone at some point of sale, but I figured that might annoy the cashier or other waiting customers.
What is the minimum manipulation of the phone to complete a Tap and Pay transaction?
Currently, I have unlokced my phone (pattern lock) and opened Google Wallet (passcode) and scanned my phone with the screen still on.
Is there less that I can do to have Tap and Pay function for payment at a point of sale?

mevensen said:
So, I'm sure I could figure this out by playing with my phone at some point of sale, but I figured that might annoy the cashier or other waiting customers.
What is the minimum manipulation of the phone to complete a Tap and Pay transaction?
Currently, I have unlokced my phone (pattern lock) and opened Google Wallet (passcode) and scanned my phone with the screen still on.
Is there less that I can do to have Tap and Pay function for payment at a point of sale?
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You don't have to open up wallet. Your screen just has to be on and unlocked. Tapping will automatically open up wallet.

muffinhunter said:
You don't have to open up wallet. Your screen just has to be on and unlocked. Tapping will automatically open up wallet.
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If it automatically opens Wallet, does it then require the passcode? If so, then it seems easier to enter the code before initiating the transaction, if not, then I might be a little concerned about the security of this method.
Thanks

In your tap and pay settings you can configure the timeout period
Sent from my Nexus 5

Pirateghost said:
In your tap and pay settings you can configure the timeout period
Sent from my Nexus 5
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So, are you saying that the Wallet app does need to be unlocked for Tap and Pay to work?
So, the most efficient way to work would be
1. Have timeout set to 15 minutes
2. Unlock Wallet while in line (up to 15 min before needing to pay)
3. When time to pay, just unlock phone and swipe.
This is what I did with previous iterations of the Google Wallet, I just wasn't sure if something had changed now that we had a direct connection to Tap and Pay through the OS.

That's my understanding. I don't have enough places around me that have the ability for me to tap n pay to test the theory.
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I turned my wallet app to be always unlocked after using it at a McDonalds. The process seemed a bit to extensive for my taste.
*I pushed the power button
*Tapped my phone against the register
*It opened wallet
*I put In my pin
*tapped it again
And then It worked
Hopefully now after setting wallet to never lock I can just hit the power button, tap, and be done.
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[Q] left phone feature?

is there a feature in the gear 2 that will notify / vibrate whenever you leave your phone?
I know it vibrates once when it disconnects with the phone but is there a way that it would notify more than once?

Glen L said:
is there a feature in the gear 2 that will notify / vibrate whenever you leave your phone?
I know it vibrates once when it disconnects with the phone but is there a way that it would notify more than once?
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what i did with mine is if i left my phone behind and when the bluetooth disconnect, i set my gear 2 to ask for a pin code. and it will remain that way until i enter the pin to unlock the scree. and for the phone itself to lock and require an unlock pattern to use the phone. this is all available in settings of the gear manager

ducati31Z said:
what i did with mine is if i left my phone behind and when the bluetooth disconnect, i set my gear 2 to ask for a pin code. and it will remain that way until i enter the pin to unlock the scree. and for the phone itself to lock and require an unlock pattern to use the phone. this is all available in settings of the gear manager
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ah yeah I know about that
but my concern is not about security, its about losing your phone or misplacing it

Glen L said:
ah yeah I know about that
but my concern is not about security, its about losing your phone or misplacing it
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perfectly this is mine concern also!! did u find a way out?

i found few apps that may help, it is paid apps tho and is available in the gear app store.
names are AlarmAprt
and Mobile Shield
cost 2$ each $AUD.

Android lock screen password / PIN / Pattern

Hello;
After looking for hours about this I'm very angry because of the stupidity of Google. Here I go:
I have configured fingerprint to unlock my phone because I sometimes can't or it's very uncomfortable for me to unlock my phone with a password / PIN / Pattern because using with one hand and I need to unlock as fast as possible all the time.
Now it comes the stupidest thing I've ever seen in my life: no matter what, the phone will ask me to enter whatever I have configured for security, rendering my fingerprint totally useless. This is completely nonsense because it's not configurable by the user. The correct way of doing this is to enable an option for the user to choose: "Additionally ask every 72 hours for the password to provide extra security". Just a checkbox that can be enabled or disabled, because Google should think about the user. This security crazy paranoia is making devices less secure, because people who don't want to enter their password when they have configured fingerprint choose to disable security completely to stop being asked for the damn password.
But I'm asking here because I absolutely know there is a way to disable this, I don't care if it involves hacking / opening / soldering the device, anything to stop this will be welcome, because for me is completely necessary, or else I will have to either sell the phone or disable security completely. Entering the password on startup or when your finger fails 3 times is ok and full of sense, I have no problems with that, but every 72 hours because yes is an absolute no-no, sorry.
I hope somebody knows the exact formula to [email protected] Google / Xiaomi back, because they are simply stupid.
Thanks.
P.S: Please, if you are about to say things like "it's a feature" or "I like it, it makes more secure your device so it makes sense" or "somebody could cut your finger and use it", I prefer you don't post a comment, because I'm looking for a solution not an explanation on why it is like that to understand why the things are done like they are done, I hope you understand.

How about a factory reset?

bigogofthewest said:
How about a factory reset?
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I think this is the right decision.

Dassote said:
I think this is the right decision.
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This is bad design from Google. When I was in the crowd (e.g. inside the train), people surrounding me were looking at my finger typing the PIN as I was not able to unlock it using my fingerprint anymore after 72 hours. It makes the phone becoming very insecure. You should lock the phone with PIN only when I am not inside the crowd (e.g. during evening hour)

Why do I need to enter passcode every morning?

Before I go to sleep I put my phone on wireless charger. I wake up in the morning and it show unlock using passcode. No fingerprint or face unlock. On top of that the phone does not look like it rebooted.

That's a new security feature implemented with one UI... Basically after 4-5 hours without signing in... It will default to pin... Not sure if this can be turned off

I think it can be turned off by using smart lock, it could be connected to a certain device or location so then you can use fingerprint or face unlock.
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borijess said:
Before I go to sleep I put my phone on wireless charger. I wake up in the morning and it show unlock using passcode. No fingerprint or face unlock. On top of that the phone does not look like it rebooted.
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I have the same issue glad you made the post

doesn't seem to work with smart lock either for me

Smart lock auto locks phone after 4 hours of inactivity...

You could use Samsung Routines to keep your phone unlocked.
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if you use face unlock this is what happens, there is a warning about it on the bio metrics screen when you enable it.
turn it off and this goes away.
its a stupid feature for sure and just annoying AF
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GDHAMTON7 said:
That's a new security feature implemented with one UI... Basically after 4-5 hours without signing in... It will default to pin... Not sure if this can be turned off
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only if you stop using face unlock

I use smart lock with me frontier, and I don't use face unlock. Only need pin after reboot.

GDHAMTON7 said:
That's a new security feature implemented with one UI[.] Basically after 4-5 hours without signing in[,] It will default to pin[.] Not sure if this can be turned off
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For me, it only asks for my password around once a week (I haven't done anything to modify the feature). It may depend on which biometric authentication you've enabled. I only use fingerprints.

Maybe auto restart is active and phone restarting itself every night so this is why at the mornings you need to enter your password.

GDHAMTON7 said:
That's a new security feature implemented with one UI... Basically after 4-5 hours without signing in... It will default to pin... Not sure if this can be turned off
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Don't set a pin.
I'm more afraid of being accidentally locked out.
Once bitten, twice shy... hardware failures could leave it in the locked state. Got permanently locked of a mobo like that...

Gary02468 said:
For me, it only asks for my password around once a week (I haven't done anything to modify the feature). It may depend on which biometric authentication you've enabled. I only use fingerprints.
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You didn't read the thread obviously lol, with only fingerprint enabled of course its not happening to you.

Settings > The search bar > Auto Restart > disable it

Just check if your phone is set to auto restart at night. That could also be the reason for same. I have mine set to restart every night.

enjoylife1788 said:
Just check if your phone is set to auto restart at night. That could also be the reason for same. I have mine set to restart every night.
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You can rule out that explanation by looking in Settings | About Phone | Status | Up Time to see when the phone last rebooted.

if your uing the face unlock feature which is less secure this issue happens it will ask for your pin time to time which is annoying.
disable that and problem goes away

Question Anyway to figure out how to get rid of lock after pay is setup?

Setup pay on the watch and used it a few time and love it but hated the fact that I have to enter pin or pattern everytime I want to do anything else. Why can't they just setup so that we only need it for the pay app itself.
Has anyone figure out how to bypass this stupid crap?

There's no way currently.

dannieboiz said:
Setup pay on the watch and used it a few time and love it but hated the fact that I have to enter pin or pattern everytime I want to do anything else. Why can't they just setup so that we only need it for the pay app itself.
Has anyone figure out how to bypass this stupid crap?
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The only time I have to enter the PIN, is if I take the watch off, turn it off/on, or the watch is loose on my wrist.

p51d007 said:
The only time I have to enter the PIN, is if I take the watch off, turn it off/on, or the watch is loose on my wrist.
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Upon installing it it apears to be this way. I told my wife that my watch didn't do this (she set her watch up first and complain about it and took it off) It lasted all day this way and I was really excited. Later that evening I had to power cycle my watch and when it came back it started to lock all the time.
In fact, it was working in a way that it wouldn't lock until I put it on the charger and I was bragging to her about it and demonstrating it.

p51d007 said:
The only time I have to enter the PIN, is if I take the watch off, turn it off/on, or the watch is loose on my wrist.
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Same here..

Jesus not this again.....
You either want to use GPay and have security, or you dont setup GPay....simples....it should be obvious why the PIN is required
Its been discussed before...if you wear the watch properly, you generally have to put in the PIN once, or at least i do, after i wake up in the morning, because ive rolled in the night and broken skin contact.
And on that point, if you keep having to put the PIN in, youre not wearing the watch properly, because it uses the same sensors to track physical activity to detect when the watch isnt on, so youre wasting your time tracking health info as well.
Please for the love of god, no more flipping threads on this....