Hi all.
Very proud owner of the Pixel 2 here. Absolutely loving the phone. Was thinking of getting the XL but when I saw the screen in person it was an absolute deal breaker with the blue tint. It was so distracting, especially when you have the Pixel 2 beside it with minimal color shift.
Wanted to get feedback from people if they are encountering any weird behavior with their adaptive brightness. When I turn mine on and am in a dark room it changes brightness a lot despite the ambient light not really changing. Not a huge deal but enough that I am managing the brightness myself.
I'd prefer an option where the phone would take a birghtness reading when first unlocked and stick to it. I know that flux had this feature but now I can't find it in the store.
Any thoughts?
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Adaptive brightness has seemed a bit quirky on every phone I've owned that had the feature.
foosion said:
Adaptive brightness has seemed a bit quirky on every phone I've owned that had the feature.
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Nah its mainly the Pixel/Nexus line that have issues for adaptive brightness. The Pixel in particular is horrendous for this.
My OnePlus 5 has excellent adaptive brightness, and every Samsung phone from the S7 onwards has had best in class for android adaptive brightness, especially since its customisable.
For whatever reason though, I had to keep my Pixel XL on manual brightness because it was so damn broken otherwise.
Mine isn't responsive enough to changes in light. It's too bright or too dark.
I noticed the janky adaptive brightness on initial setup as well. I always turn it off anyway so not a big deal for me. I'm sure this will be fixed in an update. Thinking this should be one of the easier bugs for them to squash.
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juanpanlilio said:
Hi all.
Very proud owner of the Pixel 2 here. Absolutely loving the phone. Was thinking of getting the XL but when I saw the screen in person it was an absolute deal breaker with the blue tint. It was so distracting, especially when you have the Pixel 2 beside it with minimal color shift.
Wanted to get feedback from people if they are encountering any weird behavior with their adaptive brightness. When I turn mine on and am in a dark room it changes brightness a lot despite the ambient light not really changing. Not a huge deal but enough that I am managing the brightness myself.
I'd prefer an option where the phone would take a birghtness reading when first unlocked and stick to it. I know that flux had this feature but now I can't find it in the store.
Any thoughts?
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I believe you're actually looking for Lux
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vito.lux
Ya mines seems to be fairly jumpy to I remember there was an exposed module that fixed this on the nexus 5 or custom rom
Chronzy said:
I noticed the janky adaptive brightness on initial setup as well. I always turn it off anyway so not a big deal for me. I'm sure this will be fixed in an update. Thinking this should be one of the easier bugs for them to squash.
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It shouldn't need to be squashed though. This is such a basic feature of all phones since at least 2009 and should just be a copy/paste of old code from any working auto brightness system. This is why people are so frustrated with Google right now. They're charging flagship prices for flagship phones, but can't even get the basics done right.
/rant
I'm still probably going to get one though.
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I'm hearing really negative reviews on the tab plus screen resolution as it's not great outside in the sun and it is unbearable. Is this true? Do you guys believe the screen resolution to be really that bad? Thanks.
The screen resolution has absolutely nothing to do with sunlight readability so I don't really understand what you mean here
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I'm hearing really negative reviews on the tab plus screen resolution as it's not great outside in the sun and it is unbearable. Is this true? Do you guys believe the screen resolution to be really that bad? Thanks.
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Had not heard of these reviews. Links?
StingerDog said:
Had not heard of these reviews. Links?
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Don't know if it's against the rules but one was from Cnet. Another user was talking about it as well. Don't flame me, i'm just trying to see if it's all hogwash per say because i'm really considering getting a galaxy tab plus.
the resolution is fine for my eyes. I don't quite get what all the hype about resolution is these days... My computer monitor is around 100ppi... Why do I need a tablet or phone that has 400ppi?
What about the brightness level. That's the issue I've heard some things about. People are saying that the GT+ is very dim and difficult to see outside.
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What about the brightness level. That's the issue I've heard some things about. People are saying that the GT+ is very dim and difficult to see outside.
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I can't comment on that, really. 99% of my usage is indoors, and I might have to wait until May before there's another sunny day where I live. Then again, the only tablet-like devices I've ever seen that are actually good in the sun are e-ink devices (kindle touch, nook touch, etc)
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What about the brightness level. That's the issue I've heard some things about. People are saying that the GT+ is very dim and difficult to see outside.
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Again, some sources for where this brightness issue is coming from would certainly shed some light (excuse the pun)?
I have to agree with garyd9 here. My tablet lives indoors most of the time. The few times I've been outdoors with it I was able to crank up the brightness to where I had no issue with seeing the screen. Typically I leave the brightness set between 20-35% indoors and occasionally to as high as 45-50% depending on the light in the room. In full dark I run it to minimum as its too bright. Maximum is insanely bright and I can't imagine many scenerios where I would need it to be that bright.
It should be noted that I don't use the auto brightness as it is wholly inadequate for the purpose. I imagine that users who are complaining of dim screens are relying on the auto brightness feature and not adjusting the brightness manually. Overall I find the tablets brightness to be more than capable of handling the job.
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Again, some sources for where this brightness issue is coming from would certainly shed some light (excuse the pun)?
I have to agree with garyd9 here. My tablet lives indoors most of the time. The few times I've been outdoors with it I was able to crank up the brightness to where I had no issue with seeing the screen. Typically I leave the brightness set between 20-35% indoors and occasionally to as high as 45-50% depending on the light in the room. In full dark I run it to minimum as its too bright. Maximum is insanely bright and I can't imagine many scenerios where I would need it to be that bright.
It should be noted that I don't use the auto brightness as it is wholly inadequate for the purpose. I imagine that users who are complaining of dim screens are relying on the auto brightness feature and not adjusting the brightness manually. Overall I find the tablets brightness to be more than capable of handling the job.
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Thank you for your honest opinion. I guess that's what I was looking for earlier but maybe I was just misunderstood or something. But I thank all you guys for your honest opinions here.
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Thank you for your honest opinion. I guess that's what I was looking for earlier but maybe I was just misunderstood or something. But I thank all you guys for your honest opinions here.
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You may also consider checking out the tablet in the store if possible. Stores are usually very well lit inside and should give you an excellent idea of the tablet's display capabilities.
For future reference so there's no confusion: your initial post contained contradictory information. You were asking about screen resolution when you really meant brightness. Which, as captnodegard pointed out, are two completely different things. It's helpful to use the correct terms when asking for advice. It's also best to cite sources when referring to other critical reviews, as some people may not have seen those reviews.
Good luck in your decision!
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What about the brightness level. That's the issue I've heard some things about. People are saying that the GT+ is very dim and difficult to see outside.
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THIS TAB SUCKS!!!! (I'm referring to Ainol's Novo7 Tablet. haha).
Anyways, I have a lot of experience using the GT+ outdoors since i always bring it with me in my college. Most of the times i use it outdoors when the sun is in its full glory. I have a matte screen protector which is why sun reflection is not an issue. However, I have to increase the brightness to 80% just so that i can have a pleasant view on the screen. 60% brightness is usable but I love the colors when I'm using it with 80%.
I also notice that the back gets hot whenever i turn FULL brightness on. Which is why, i capped myself to only increase brightness to 80%.
However, I live in the Philippines where a 32 degrees Celsius (90 degrees Fahrenheit) is normal which could have contributed to the back heating up.
In my opinion, the screen brightness was too dim. Particularly in auto brightness. Compared to my Sony s and htc flyer, I wasn't impressed. Selling mine because of this and other disappointments.
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whmcal said:
In my opinion, the screen brightness was too dim. Particularly in auto brightness. Compared to my Sony s and htc flyer, I wasn't impressed. Selling mine because of this and other disappointments.
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so don't use auto brightness. did you even try disabling Auto Adjust Screen Power? It can be found in Settings >> Screen. It's different from Auto Brightness.
diospada11 said:
so don't use auto brightness. did you even try disabling Auto Adjust Screen Power? It can be found in Settings >> Screen. It's different from Auto Brightness.
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Thanks for your reply. I guess it's good to rant sometimes. You pointed out something I missed in your post ...auto adjust screen power. It has improved brightness a little
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whmcal said:
In my opinion, the screen brightness was too dim. Particularly in auto brightness. Compared to my Sony s and htc flyer, I wasn't impressed. Selling mine because of this and other disappointments.
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What "other disappointments"? Just curious.
I routinely use the tab as a TV in the car during traffic on my commute and if the sun is behind me then its essentially unwatchable at 100% brightness but aside from that it works fairly well.
I don't know how well it stacks up against other 7'' offerings except the Nook Tablet which I had tried out first in my hunt for 720p playback and the two seem similar in screen brightness.
I have noticed the 7+ does not feel as bright as my 10.1 but overall it works well enough outdoors and no screen except e-ink really works well in direct sunlight anyway.
I back up that last claim with testing done on:
Galaxy S and S II
iPhone 4 and 4S
iPad 1 and 2
Galaxy Tab 10.1 and 7+
The time I tried to use my laptop outside after I said "Gee it sure is nice outside"
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What "other disappointments"? Just curious.
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The inability to customise mini apps, disappointing. This is available on 7.7. Also, the peel application is unable to control several of my devices...e.g. found no support for VCR. Found Sony S much better for this. Poor position of power button allows frequent accidental activation whilst working with device. I admit latter point could be due to my own clumsiness
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The inability to customise mini apps, disappointing. This is available on 7.7. Also, the peel application is unable to control several of my devices...e.g. found no support for VCR. Found Sony S much better for this. Poor position of power button allows frequent accidental activation whilst working with device. I admit latter point could be due to my own clumsiness
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Thanks for the comeback. All very valid points.
always on display is a great tool. but it isn't nearly as effective when it is displayed so dimly. the ambient light sensor of this app is terrible. it is almost impossible to see most of the time. i think that samsung needs to give us a setting to use adaptive sensor, 50% or 100% on. this would benefit everyone. it is NOT bright enough to bother anyone trying to go to sleep, when it is on its brightest. but it is sharp and easy to see when it is on its brightest. so please samsung, people want the ability to make decisions about these kinds of things. allow us a few brightness choices for the always on display.
Totally agree! I've found it is useless for me especially at night with how dim it is.
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Devhux said:
Totally agree! I've found it is useless for me especially at night with how dim it is.
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It would be harder to see during the day, not at night.
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I like it when its dim most of the time, and bow bright it goes when i look at it outside to see the clock without turnin on the screen. My issue is its not reliable. Sometimes it doesnt turn off when i put it in my pocket, or it turns off in my pocket but when i take it out it doesnt turn on ?? Anyone with this issue ?? Im on .22 version.
I like how dim it is now. I put my phone on a wireless charger stand on my desk and it was annoying see it bright and bouncing around so I stopped using then.
I beg to differ.... as I actually prefer it to be as dim as possible - especially in a dark room.
Remember what the purpose it is for...
That being said, I do agree with the OP for wanting it to be adjustable - it should be!
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I beg to differ.... as I actually prefer it to be as dim as possible - especially in a dark room.
Remember what the purpose it is for...
That being said, I do agree with the OP for wanting it to be adjustable - it should be!
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I feel the same. Someone above said it was especially hard to see at night, but that makes no sense as it is perfectly visible at night.
If you applied the update, and want to get rid of the dimmer display, just go into the Application Manager and delete AOD. That will uninstall the update and revert to the original version.
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I feel the same. Someone above said it was especially hard to see at night, but that makes no sense as it is perfectly visible at night.
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To be fair, I usually would use it at night. I don't have the best vision and usually do want it a bit brighter than most would.
I guess I should have clarified that - for my case I commented on nighttime viewing since that's where I usually had it enabled. It really is something that needs to be adjustable
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To be fair, I usually would use it at night. I don't have the best vision and usually do want it a bit brighter than most would.
I guess I should have clarified that - for my case I commented on nighttime viewing since that's where I usually had it enabled. It really is something that needs to be adjustable
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Ah ye I understand what you mean. Sorry if I caused any offense.
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Yes, pixel 3xl is having pwm flickering if the brightness is less than 80%.
Just in case if you don't know what this does: This gives serious daily headaches and eye strain & with no doubt will effect your eyes and neural brain things.
I am not aware of this before buying the phone, so just want to let others know about this before buying it.
Reported to support but they are asking to wait for monthly software update. But i believe this is related to hardware.
EDIT: To see the flickering you need to record the flickering phone with another phone. Then you could see lines running on the display. These lines are the result of PWM(Cheap - cost-cutting technology to control the device brightness) flickering. Flickering is much clearly exposed if recorded in slow motion.
And this will not affect every user. Only to certain people who are sensitive with their eye and brain nervous system.
EDIT: The august Update obviously did not remove the flickering, as it is related to hardware, not software.
The senior customer person requested to give the mobile to service and they replied back after 10 days that it is "as intended" i.e it has no issues and returning the phone.
So, if in case you are sensitive to eyes and neural activities and planning to buy any OLED or Pixel phones, just want to help you with this information. Suggest checking the phone in physical outlets by recording the display before buying the device.
Huh...
This doesn’t affect everyone just those that are sensitive to it
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I've never had issues with this in the almost 1 year I've owned my phone.
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All phones have pwm. Never had an issue with pwm on the 3xl. Want a phone with bad pwm? Get a OnePlus. It's atrocious on that.
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All phones have pwm. Never had an issue with pwm on the 3xl. Want a phone with bad own? Get a OnePlus. It's atrocious on that.
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Agreed. Just got a Pixel 3xl after 12 months with a OnePlus 6 and the the OnePlus 7. Ok phones but just feel unfinished and that flicker annoyed me.
I keep the brightness down around 60% or so. Never notice any pwm...
Pixel 3 XL, haven't crashed it, YET
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I've never had issues with this in the almost 1 year I've owned my phone.
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All phones have pwm. Never had an issue with pwm on the 3xl. Want a phone with bad pwm? Get a OnePlus. It's atrocious on that.
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I keep the brightness down around 60% or so. Never notice any pwm...
Pixel 3 XL, haven't crashed it, YET
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To see the flickering you need to record the flickering phone with another phone. Then you could see lines running on the display. These lines are the result of PWM(Cheap - cost-cutting technology to control the device brightness) flickering. Flickering is much clearly exposed if recorded in slow motion.
And this will not affect every user. Only to certain people who are sensitive with their eye and brain nervous system.
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To see the flickering you need to record the flickering phone with another phone. Then you could see lines running on the display. These lines are the result of PWM(Cheap - cost-cutting technology to control the device brightness) flickering. Flickering is much clearly exposed if recorded in slow motion.
And this will not affect every user. Only to certain people who are sensitive with their eye and brain nervous system.
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It sounds like you really have to go out of your way to be bothered by this.
Here is some nice graphs: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/development/amoled-pwm-s8-t3716663 and https://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/development/amoled-pwm-s7-edge-t3517739
Optimize OLED PMW with the "OLED Saver" app
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Yes, pixel 3xl is having pwm flickering if the brightness is less than 80%.
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Did you try this app ("OLED Saver bei MrJS)? https://play.google.com/store/search?q=org.js.oledsaver&c=apps
I hope that the next Pixel/Pixel A will include the "DC dimming" feature.
Finally, got the OP7 few days ago. I'm real happy about this phone except some few quirks. One of the thing that drives me nut sometimes is the auto brightness adjustment. First of all, why do the even call this the "Adaptive brightness" in the first place. Does it have any thing extra to the generic implementation?
Anyway the thing is the there could be something wrong with the way I hold the phone, covering the ambient light sensor. Making it not sense the changing lighting conditions. Anyone knows exactly where is it located?
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Finally, got the OP7 few days ago. I'm real happy about this phone except some few quirks. One of the thing that drives me nut sometimes is the auto brightness adjustment. First of all, why do the even call this the "Adaptive brightness" in the first place. Does it have any thing extra to the generic implementation?
Anyway the thing is the there could be something wrong with the way I hold the phone, covering the ambient light sensor. Making it not sense the changing lighting conditions. Anyone knows exactly where is it located?
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What I found with auto ambient light sensors is that they allegedly learn your usage patterns. What I tend to do to help it learn quicker is that I'll manually adjust the brightness slider when it's too bright or too dark for me.
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jenny673 said:
Finally, got the OP7 few days ago. I'm real happy about this phone except some few quirks. One of the thing that drives me nut sometimes is the auto brightness adjustment. First of all, why do the even call this the "Adaptive brightness" in the first place. Does it have any thing extra to the generic implementation?
Anyway the thing is the there could be something wrong with the way I hold the phone, covering the ambient light sensor. Making it not sense the changing lighting conditions. Anyone knows exactly where is it located?
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I'm not exactly sure where is located
But the thing about "adaptive brightness" is that it would learn from how you are using the phone so it would know how to behave in different light conditions.
Like for example : Maybe you don't like the brightness to go all the way down when you are in a pitch dark room but rather being a little bit above so technically what you need to do is to manually adjust to the desired brightness and so adaptive brightness will learn that you like it that way in that condition.
The more you adjust it the best it should get ( give it a few weeks ) but right now i think it's a little bugged, but some have reported that is been fixed in the last Q dev rom.
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I'm not exactly sure where is located
But the thing about "adaptive brightness" is that it would learn from how you are using the phone so it would know how to behave in different light conditions.
Like for example : Maybe you don't like the brightness to go all the way down when you are in a pitch dark room but rather being a little bit above so technically what you need to do is to manually adjust to the desired brightness and so adaptive brightness will learn that you like it that way in that condition.
The more you adjust it the best it should get ( give it a few weeks ) but right now i think it's a little bugged, but some have reported that is been fixed in the last Q dev rom.
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What I found with auto ambient light sensors is that they allegedly learn your usage patterns. What I tend to do to help it learn quicker is that I'll manually adjust the brightness slider when it's too bright or too dark for me.
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Oh I see. That's good to know. I was not aware of this. As far as the proximity and ambient light sensors are considered. They don't physically exist rather the proximity and ambient response is done without hardware but with software with AI. You can refer the link below regarding this for a better understanding coz I don't really know how, it seems sophisticated.
https://www.ellipticlabs.com/2019/0...eaner-design-to-oneplus-7-series-smartphones/
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I'm not sure if this article can be applied for the OP7, but it's interesting nonetheless.
https://piunikaweb.com/2019/06/13/o...ensor-demystified-how-it-works-or-gets-buggy/
Will do. Thanks
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I'm not sure if this article can be applied for the OP7, but it's interesting nonetheless.
https://piunikaweb.com/2019/06/13/o...ensor-demystified-how-it-works-or-gets-buggy/
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Yep, even on my s10plus its glitchy in fact I'd go further by saying it doesn't work like it used to.
Example, the alway on display now doesn't turn off when you cover the ambient sensor where as in the previous older devices like the note 9 it would. When using a folio wallet case the screen still stays on for AOD.
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It's behind the screen, just like the OP7 Pro. You can see the IR light with another camera. Or in direct sunlight, you can see two holes just below the camera cutout (and finger print).
Basically same as 7 Pro... which is not like old sensors.
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It's behind the screen, just like the OP7 Pro. You can see the IR light with another camera. Or in direct sunlight, you can see two holes just below the camera cutout (and finger print).
Basically same as 7 Pro... which is not like old sensors.
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I have used a number of other phones, typically I'm a moderate phone user, looking at phone about 1-2 hours per day.
Since I bought the Mi Mix 2s, I often feel eye fatigue and light headache after looking at the phone. I tried reading mode and automatic brightness on and off. But it seems not helping much. If I reduce the time looking at the phone, it helps.
This never happened to other phones I used in the past.
Not sure if it's just me or a common thing for Mix 2S?
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I have used a number of other phones, typically I'm a moderate phone user, looking at phone about 1-2 hours per day.
Since I bought the Mi Mix 2s, I often feel eye fatigue and light headache after looking at the phone. I tried reading mode and automatic brightness on and off. But it seems not helping much. If I reduce the time looking at the phone, it helps.
This never happened to other phones I used in the past.
Not sure if it's just me or a common thing for Mix 2S?
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I've been using this phone since June (~3-6 hours/day) and never had any problems with eye fatigue or headache... Did you try filtering blue light?
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I've been using this phone since June (~3-6 hours/day) and never had any problems with eye fatigue or headache... Did you try filtering blue light?
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Thanks for confirming. Yes, I tried reading mode on with warm color, but seems it didn't help much. I guess could be my eyes are sensitive to something on the Mix 2s screen (like PWM or sth.)
gadget1999 said:
Thanks for confirming. Yes, I tried reading mode on with warm color, but seems it didn't help much. I guess could be my eyes are sensitive to something on the Mix 2s screen (like PWM or sth.)
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I don't think PWM is the problem. Notebookcheck.com tested this phone and they wrote: "Some PWM flickering occurs in the IPS display, but only if the brightness is reduced to 36% or lower. At 1168 Hz, the PWM frequency is very high, so that even a sensitive person should not feel any impact from this."
I had the same issue with mix 2s, it was the black version and the screen was a little bit yellowish. It was very unpleasant to look at. Now having another one, I don t seem to be having the same eye strain. The new one is the white variant.
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I had the same issue with mix 2s, it was the black version and the screen was a little bit yellowish. It was very unpleasant to look at. Now having another one, I don t seem to be having the same eye strain. The new one is the white variant.
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Mine is a black version too. Maybe screens are manufactured by different vendors for different batches/variants.
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Mine is a black version too. Maybe screens are manufactured by different vendors for different batches/variants.
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I do get eye strain when using it at low brightness especially at night, I feel like my eyes have to focus really hard when the brightness is low. But that happens only with the mix2s, on samsung phones for example, I have no issues at all.
Try to keep the brightness at values higher than 30%, for me it helps immediately.
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I do get eye strain when using it at low brightness especially at night, I feel like my eyes have to focus really hard when the brightness is low. But that happens only with the mix2s, on samsung phones for example, I have no issues at all.
Try to keep the brightness at values higher than 30%, for me it helps immediately.
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That's probably related to PWM. I also found that turn off automatic brightness could help a bit.