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I have read so many threads with problem x solved by using a quality USB cable, and yet I still find others arguing that there is no difference in cheap cables. In-fact i have just had a discussion about this with a friend yesterday so i thought i would just let everyone know - USE A GOOD CABLE!
To test this I used an ebay cable, oem samsung, oem moto, and a case logic cable. I then simply transferred a small 6 mb file and a larger 200mb file to the phone.
Ebay - phone wouldn't even connect to pc.
Sam - both worked
Moto - both worked
Case - 6 mb worked, 200 started and then completely froze forcing phone reboot.
So again, especially when flashing, use a good cable!
Good to know. Thanks
Just another heads up... My wife has a Motorola and I have the siii. Using my siii cable, both of our phones charge at least three times faster. Using the Motorola cable, both of our phones charge much slower.
Another heads up... Get the best of both worlds, high quality and low price on a usb cable. Go to monoprice.com!
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Most Likely those talking about difference in Cables could be talking about how each manufacture alters their cable.
For example, Moto and Samsung have a Resister that links 2 of the 5 pins which is hidden in the plastic. Reason for this is, Car docks, it would tell phone to open car dock App etc, Same for media docks.
Charger usb cables are same because some phones can handle a higher amp of charging which charges faster while a standard usb cable needs to made to have a limit to not fry the device it is being used on.
Hope This helps, i know it did when I learned this,. Now it makes more reasons and ideas for Mods...LOL
This is news??
Duh.
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Isn't it just safe to use the USB cable that came with the device?
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This is news??
Duh.
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News???
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News???
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I mean, I thought this was a given...
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I mean, I thought this was a given...
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LOL....Was trying to be nice and spread a little learned knowledge to person here talking about differences in usb ....and why
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LOL....Was trying to be nice and spread a little learned knowledge to person here talking about differences in usb ....and why
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Fair enough!
***bows head in silence
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monoprice
TheHobbyist said:
Get the best of both worlds, high quality and low price on a usb cable. Go to monoprice.com!
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I'll second that, best place to get almost any cable you can think of. I have yet to be disappointed.
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Most Likely those talking about difference in Cables could be talking about how each manufacture alters their cable.
For example, Moto and Samsung have a Resister that links 2 of the 5 pins which is hidden in the plastic. Reason for this is, Car docks, it would tell phone to open car dock App etc, Same for media docks.
Charger usb cables are same because some phones can handle a higher amp of charging which charges faster while a standard usb cable needs to made to have a limit to not fry the device it is being used on.
Hope This helps, i know it did when I learned this,. Now it makes more reasons and ideas for Mods...LOL
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If you're using a charger for a different device, it's likely that they have different amperage. A 2 amp charger will charge your phone a LOT faster than, say, the 0.5 amps off your computer's USB port. In this case, it's not the USB cable itself, but the amperage of the transformer in the charger. Some may argue that the slower charge is "better" and will help your battery last longer.
If you're using the same charger with different USB cables, then this is news.
I haven't even used the OEM cable that came with my GSIII. I picked up a 6 foot no name USB cable from newegg for $1.39 and it works fine.
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If you're using a charger for a different device, it's likely that they have different amperage. A 2 amp charger will charge your phone a LOT faster than, say, the 0.5 amps off your computer's USB port. In this case, it's not the USB cable itself, but the amperage of the transformer in the charger. Some may argue that the slower charge is "better" and will help your battery last longer.
If you're using the same charger with different USB cables, then this is news.
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Was going to point this exact thing out. It is also possible the cables could be rated for passing different rates but it is much more likely that something is putting off more power so it charges faster. I do tend to agree though that slower is better since you can pull the plug faster and not overcharge
Over time I end up having loose connection problems with virtually any microusb cable i buy, including from monoprice. At first the cable plugs into the phone fine and charges. Overtime somehow the microusb part that goes in the phone is looser in the phone than before, and i have to angle my phone in way to get it to start charging. The slightest movement causes the charging to stop. I have had this problem with almost every micro usb cable i ever owned ever since I got an htc thunderbolt and the problem continues now with my s3.
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These work fine for me
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going to mono price. I'll report the results.
One thing to keep in mind also is that most, if not all, USB cables aren't shielded so the longer they are they degrade the transfer speeds etc. I don't think it would make a difference for charging, but to transfer data a shorter higher quality cable would be your best bet. I don't know if the degradation would be noticeable tho...
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going to mono price. I'll report the results.
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You wont be disappointed. Quality products at great prices. They also stand behind their products if, in the rare event, you have a problem with one.
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I have read so many threads with problem x solved by using a quality USB cable, and yet I still find others arguing that there is no difference in cheap cables. In-fact i have just had a discussion about this with a friend yesterday so i thought i would just let everyone know - USE A GOOD CABLE!
To test this I used an ebay cable, oem samsung, oem moto, and a case logic cable. I then simply transferred a small 6 mb file and a larger 200mb file to the phone.
Ebay - phone wouldn't even connect to pc.
Sam - both worked
Moto - both worked
Case - 6 mb worked, 200 started and then completely froze forcing phone reboot.
So again, especially when flashing, use a good cable!
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When you say the transfer started and then froze, I would have to ask what ROM you're running. If it's TW or TW-based, I'd be much more willing to blame the software than the cable. Using Samsung's MTP interface, I have had plenty of large file transfers crap out using both high and low quality cables.
Either way, this test is hardly complete. Obviously somethings wrong with the Ebay cable, but for the other tests, you need to run them more than once. To give any statistical significance to the data, the tests have to be run a bunch of times. Otherwise it is (as far as you know) just luck.
Also, as others have said, I think the primary differences between cheap and "quality" usb cables are
Amperage (which is mostly due to the charger, not the cable, but generally you want a cable that can handle it)
Quality of the connector (cheap cables generally have flimsy connectors)
Quality of construction/Durability (may work fine, but die after a month or two).
I don't think data transfer is something that is really impacted much by the quality of the cable (until you hit that point where the cheap cable just stops working). Getting back to my earlier point about the limited testing, I think if you ran the same test a whole bunch of times (like 100 times for each file on each cable), you'd find that as long as the cable actually works (which seems to exclude the ebay one), they'd probably perform about the same on average.
Just my two cents.
Google product engineer +BensonLeung has tested several cables, and the vast majority of them fail to meet the Type C specification, some even dangerously drawing too much power.
Interesting to note that the hugely popular Orzly cables fail his tests.
can't even trust the word "certified by **** company" on the products anymore. that's why you just can't ignore product reviewers.
Haha, I was just coming to post this myself. Its good we have people looking out for this sort of thing. Stuff like this always pops up in the early phases of new tech or standard roll outs. Remember all the faulty knock off lightning cables for apple stuff when that first launched?
Potentially bad news for those of us with the One+ cables though;
+Rajesh Handa , +Guille Laca, +Jared Valles, +Steven Lefkoff, unfortunately I have bad news about the One+ cables. The One+ cables, despite ostensibly being from a 1st party phone maker, are out of spec. They use an incorrect 3A configuration as well.
I haven't reviewed them on Amazon because they aren't for sale there directly from One+
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Potentially bad news for those of us with the One+ cables though;
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Yes, this is incredibly annoying. I have recently bought two of them, specifically because I didn't want to buy from some random Amazon seller.
I've just emailed One+'s customer service to get their comment on it, and request a full refund.
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Yes, this is incredibly annoying. I have recently bought two of them, specifically because I didn't want to buy from some random Amazon seller.
I've just emailed One+'s customer service to get their comment on it, and request a full refund.
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Let me know how that goes, I may do the same.
It sucks he has not recommended any chargers or USB-C to USB-C cables. The only cables he has reviewed are USB A to USB-C and it is my understanding that these will not quick charge the device anyhow.
I have started a Google Sheet to track USB Type C cables and accessories. I have also enhanced to include N5X and N6P products. Check it out!
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It sucks he has not recommended any chargers or USB-C to USB-C cables. The only cables he has reviewed are USB A to USB-C and it is my understanding that these will not quick charge the device anyhow.
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I'm using the Google one that came with my phone right now plugged in to my USB 3.0 port on my PC, and it says "Charging Rapidly".
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I'm using the Google one that came with my phone right now plugged in to my USB 3.0 port on my PC, and it says "Charging Rapidly".
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Not to change gears but I topped my 6p off yesterday before first boot up and let it and my htc m8 both drain completely, them plugged 6p to packaged charger and my m8 to a nexus 6 fast charger and a 6-ft micro usb I bought fro at&t and the m8 charged... Much... Faster. Are Google's fast charging claims unfounded or is the N6 charger from Motorola just that fast?
Might repost this in q&a aub, but was wondering how your experience hs been thusfar.
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Not to change gears but I topped my 6p off yesterday before first boot up and let it and my htc m8 both drain completely, them plugged 6p to packaged charger and my m8 to a nexus 6 fast charger and a 6-ft micro usb I bought fro at&t and the m8 charged... Much... Faster. Are Google's fast charging claims unfounded or is the N6 charger from Motorola just that fast?
Might repost this in q&a aub, but was wondering how your experience hs been thusfar.
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Remember that the M8 has a 2,600 mAh battery and the 6P has a 3,450 mAh battery. The 6P battery is almost 35% larger than the M8, and will require more time to charge. How much charge did the 6P have when the M8 finished charging?
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Yes, this is incredibly annoying. I have recently bought two of them, specifically because I didn't want to buy from some random Amazon seller.
I've just emailed One+'s customer service to get their comment on it, and request a full refund.
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Let me know how that goes, I may do the same.
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Ditto. I bought 3 and I might keep them for slow charging, like overnight. The price wasn't bad.
That's is a very fair point and good question. If I'm not mistaken between 65-75%. Nothing crazy, but one thing I will say, I play a game that drains the battery very badly, even after I close and even force close the app (love it so much I am willing to live with it) but I drained it all the way back down this morning playing the game and instead of turning it back on and starting the charge from 1% and leaving it on so I can track its progress (after a restart, the game normally doesn't cause any battery drain until I open it again), I left it off to charge, and I came back less than 40 minutes later and the thing was full.. I couldn't believe it so I turned it on and unplugged it and sure enough, 98%. It could be that the game was causing such drain (which is scary because the it never eats battery after a reboot) that it slowed the charging process, but I guess I'll never know for sure.
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Yes, this is incredibly annoying. I have recently bought two of them, specifically because I didn't want to buy from some random Amazon seller.
I've just emailed One+'s customer service to get their comment on it, and request a full refund.
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Let me know how that goes, I may do the same.
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I emailed them as well to cancel my order and refund me in full. Waiting on a response.
should we still have to worry about even if we use a basic charger (5v - 2a) to charge our 6P with those generic cables? seems like the google engineer only tested and raised concerned with rapid charging. this might get too far once wireless charging stickers/cases are introduced.
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should we still have to worry about even if we use a basic charger (5v - 2a) to charge our 6P with those generic cables? seems like the google engineer only tested and raised concerned with rapid charging. this might get too far once wireless charging stickers/cases are introduced.
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Based on the text in his reviews, it sounds like the risk of damage is to your charger, not your phone. The phone can (obviously) handle a 3A charging speed but a USB A charger most likely cannot.
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Ditto. I bought 3 and I might keep them for slow charging, like overnight. The price wasn't bad.
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I was thinking the same thing. I bought 2 sets, just keep them around for data transfer and such as most of my stuff will be attached to google official chargers Type C to Type C. May as well, they are beautiful.
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should we still have to worry about even if we use a basic charger (5v - 2a) to charge our 6P with those generic cables?
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That's all I want to know: can I use these "sketchy" cables with an old Motorola charger that's 5V/1A. I have a bunch of these chargers in various places, and I would just like to have the option to top off. Not to mention my car charger.
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should we still have to worry about even if we use a basic charger (5v - 2a) to charge our 6P with those generic cables? seems like the google engineer only tested and raised concerned with rapid charging. this might get too far once wireless charging stickers/cases are introduced.
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Eh I personally wont run the risk of ruining my $500 smartphone by skimping out on $10 for a nicer cable.
Any adapter advice?
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Google product engineer +BensonLeung has tested several cables, and the vast majority of them fail to meet the Type C specification, some even dangerously drawing too much power.
Interesting to note that the hugely popular Orzly cables fail his tests.
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Hey everyone! As you all know im always doing reviews on loads of products and have reviewed these cables with the OnePlus 2! Obviously they work perfectly for that as they were built for the OnePlus 2 originally. I did contact them though and they did let me know that as soon as it was brought to there attention they corrected the issue and i actually received the new version of the cable today and i will review it and have the video up tomorrow! For everyone using a OnePlus 2 its nothing to worry about though. The only items that it could affect are things that power at 3A so just keep that in mind before you go throwing out your cables!
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The only items that it could affect are things that power at 3A so just keep that in mind before you go throwing out your cables!
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Like our nice expenisve new phones?
I'm experiencing a weird issue with my Pixel. Occasionally, I'll plug the phone into the OEM charger and it won't charge at all. Trying different outlets doesn't solve the issue but as soon as I reboot the phone and plug it in, it charges just fine. It's a strange issue I haven't encountered with any previous phone. Curious if others have experienced this?
Exact same issue here over the last few days.
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That's weird
Did you tried to switch from another adapter ?
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That's weird
Did you tried to switch from another adapter ?
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In my case, I have a 2nd charger from SONEic that is an approved USB-C to USB-C that works flawlessly. However, like the OP said, my Google charger will ding like it's charging once connected, then stop charging 1 second later. It will repeat that endless dinging ever few seconds until I reboot it. Never happens with my SONEic charger. Once rebooted, the Google charger works fine. Very annoying.
I've tried unplugging everything, turning the cable around, etc., Only a reboot works.
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In my case, I have a 2nd charger from SONEic that is an approved USB-C to USB-C that works flawlessly. However, like the OP said, my Google charger will ding like it's charging once connected, then stop charging 1 second later. It will repeat that endless dinging ever few seconds until I reboot it. Never happens with my SONEic charger. Once rebooted, the Google charger works fine. Very annoying.
I've tried unplugging everything, turning the cable around, etc., Only a reboot works.
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I had this problem of start/stop/start charging with a reliable 1A charger and a usb A-to-C cable. A reboot would fix it. I ended up switching to another 2.4A charger (not QC) I had around with the same cable and have had no problems since. I still use the smaller charger on an old media phone.
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I had this problem of start/stop/start charging with a reliable 1A charger and a usb A-to-C cable. A reboot would fix it. I ended up switching to another 2.4A charger (not QC) I had around with the same cable and have had no problems since. I still use the smaller charger on an old media phone.
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The problem is, though, that we are experiencing this with the Google charger that came with the phone and NOT secondary chargers. Wonder if the charger is defective...?
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The problem is, though, that we are experiencing this with the Google charger that came with the phone and NOT secondary chargers. Wonder if the charger is defective...?
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Yeah, it's with the OEM charger. I am starting to think the charger is to blame. Unfortunately, I don't have a secondary fast charger to test with. However, I just updated my phone to the latest NDE63V build. I'll be monitoring closely over the next few days to see if the issue pops up with the OEM charger again or if the software update solves it.
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Yeah, it's with the OEM charger. I am starting to think the charger is to blame. Unfortunately, I don't have a secondary fast charger to test with. However, I just updated my phone to the latest NDE63V build. I'll be monitoring closely over the next few days to see if the issue pops up with the OEM charger again or if the software update solves it.
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Did you unlock your BL before updating or are you on a Google edition Pixel?
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Did you unlock your BL before updating or are you on a Google edition Pixel?
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I have the Google unlocked version. I unlocked my bootloader right after unboxing the phone, as I do with all my Nexus (now Pixel) devices.
This issue has gone away for me with yesterday's update.
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This issue has gone away for me with yesterday's update.
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Yeah, it's been a couple of days now since updating to NDE63V and haven't had any charging issues since. Crossing my fingers that it really was just a software issue. Time will tell.
Woke up to 35% this morning plugged into stock charger not charging. Plugged into an Anker Power Port 4 and viola' it charges. Found this thread, rebooted and stock charger works again. Verizon on build NDE63X. Don't know when the update came down.
Exactly the same ^^^
I had an issue where no charger could be reversed in my phone. The C cable would only charge it in one orientation. I RMAd the phone and got a new one. Now, I have this same issue where the phone will charge and stop a few times and then start charging with the OEM brick and cable. Works fine with the OEM brick and a different cable I got from Amazon. Even works fine with the OEM cable and my computer with a USB C port. I think it might be the OEM brick.
Just had this issue happen to me for the first time today. OEM charger, won't charge until I reboot the phone. When I use my samsung fast charging brick no issues.
Brand new pixel 128gb... Charged fine with the USB a-c charger but got this weird issue with the stock charger and cable ... Phone is only 2 days old... Seems software related... As stated... Reboot fixes it... I notice most people on Google issued pixels were fixed in last update... Maybe Verizon is behind on this
Verizon pixel build nde63x...
Mine has done this also. It was a problem on the Verizon build. I have since unlocked the bootloader and gone to the Google latest version and it still has the issue. I asked a friend if he had this issue and he said no but he had that issue on his Nexus phone.
I think the OEM charger is too loose. I've had that issue before (at work). Plug it in, it looks like it's charging, check it a few mins later and its not. If I push the cable in firmly it'll charge.
I have a Samsung USB C adapter that I've been using with one of my old chargers (at home) and I haven't had a single issue with it. I ordered 10 cheap USB C adapters off eBay. I'm hoping they work just as well. I have a bunch of Turbo chargers that I've accumulated from other phones so hopefully I can convert all of them and keep using them.... And still be able to charge older devices.
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I had this issue tonight again... Even after reboot the phone wouldn't charge when powered on... Powered off it charges fine... Hopefully when I get home the USB a-c cord works to charge tonight
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I had this issue tonight again... Even after reboot the phone wouldn't charge when powered on... Powered off it charges fine... Hopefully when I get home the USB a-c cord works to charge tonight
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Are you using the same charger every time? Try using the USB cord that came with the phone and a different wall block.
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Anyone planning on or tried wireless charging yet? I see some decent reviews for the model below on Amazon. Just curious if it will charge quicker than my current phone (Nexus 6)?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M11UT3V/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_B3zqybSH2TE4Q
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No idea what you are linking too.
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Anyone planning on or tried wireless charging yet? I see some decent reviews for the model below on Amazon. Just curious if it will charge quicker than my current phone (Nexus 6)?
Wireless Charging Receiver, Nillkin...p/B01M11UT3V/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_B3zqybSH2TE4Q
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The Pixel does not support wireless charging. You would need to install one of those stick on QI compliant receivers that plug into the USB C port.
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No idea what you are linking too.
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The Pixel does not support wireless charging. You would need to install one of those stick on QI compliant receivers that plug into the USB C port.
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Yes I realize that, looking for opinions from anyone who has used these. I fixed the link too, oops.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M11UT3V/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_B3zqybSH2TE4Q
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Yes I realize that, looking for opinions from anyone who has used these. I fixed the link too, oops.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M11UT3V/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_B3zqybSH2TE4Q
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I don't have first hand experience, but I see a few problems.
First, the USB C factory charger charges the phone to 70% in 15 minutes. It isn't like previous devices where you would throw it on the QI charger every spare moment because the battery took forever to charge. Second, the voltage output is not device specific and would take longer to charge the phone than using a standard USB C cable/charger.
I guess what I am saying is that yeah, any of the QI compliant stickers would work, but I ask, are they useful? I lived by QI on my Nexus 6, but seeing what type of battery life I get now, coupled with the ridiculously quick charge times, I no longer see the merit.
I don't mean to thread crap, but it took me a while to get over QI when weighing my options to upgrade. I honestly no longer miss wireless charging. I miss my dual facing stereo speaker and my almost 0 bezel from my Nexus 6, but not QI.
I hope this somewhat helps.
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I don't have first hand experience, but I see a few problems.
First, the USB C factory charger charges the phone to 70% in 15 minutes. It isn't like previous devices where you would throw it on the QI charger every spare moment because the battery took forever to charge. Second, the voltage output is not device specific and would take longer to charge the phone than using a standard USB C cable/charger.
I guess what I am saying is that yeah, any of the QI compliant stickers would work, but I ask, are they useful? I lived by QI on my Nexus 6, but seeing what type of battery life I get now, coupled with the ridiculously quick charge times, I no longer see the merit.
I don't mean to thread crap, but it took me a while to get over QI when weighing my options to upgrade. I honestly no longer miss wireless charging. I miss my dual facing stereo speaker and my almost 0 bezel from my Nexus 6, but not QI.
I hope this somewhat helps.
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Definitely helps, and yes I too am struggling with just getting over wireless charging. It's just hard to cast aside all the wireless accessories (for 2 phones, my wife has one as well).
I think once there is an external DAC that has inline charging I'll happily dump the wireless charging idea haha!
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Cheap! $9.00 (20w) Generic Desktop Fast Charging Stand (Working w/NON OEM AC USB) including SAMSUNG Fast Wireless AC / USB
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First let me say I have absolute ZERO affiliation to anything relating the sale of this product!
I am just sharing the wealth here for as being still such an unclarity on proper working charging accessories. A small gamble I took on purchasing (2) of these cheapies on EBAY turned out to be quite
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• Fast Wireless Charging (13.2w confirmed)
• Charger immediately recognized on device (as PIXEL STAND) enabling additional GOOGLE ASSISTANT software
• Working w/various GENERIC AC Adapters & USB cables (YAY!)
including SAMSUNG FAST WIRELESS AC / USB + more
• No issues of overheating or phone getting warm.
I am unsure if the specs are EPP charging (as a listed requirement of FAST CHARGING via Google) though it seems to be doing the job as if it was.
What I did find ODD is that these chargers DO NOT play nice using the GENUINE AC Adapter & USB C cable that shipped with the PIXEL 4. SLOW CHARGING AT MAX! Go Figure?
I have tested various older USB cables and USB C adapters and all with no issues w/Fast Charging (though obviously keep in mind results do vary with stuff like this!)
Regardless, for $9 bux, its worth checking out for anyone who is interested.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/20W-Wirele...var=671844964393&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
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If what you're saying is true then this is a Pixel stand for a fraction of the cost. That's pretty awesome.
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for 10 bucks I'll give it a try. Worse comes to worse I can use it to charge other phones in the house.
I have one on the way from China. Will report back when it arrives.
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Dumb question: does the generic AC USB plug being used with this stand still need to be USB-PD capable?
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Dumb question: does the generic AC USB plug being used with this stand still need to be USB-PD capable?
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I think it only needs to be quick charge 2.0/3.0 capable. Didn't the OP say he had trouble using the original pixel charger that came with his phone? I actually ran into issues using my original pixel wall charger with some wireless car charger mounts. They worked fine with QC chargers.
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I have one on the way from China. Will report back when it arrives.
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I ordered one too for 10 bucks it's worth a try.
They sent two of these to me. Both show max 8.4 watts no matter what cable/plug I use and I have many. It also does not present itself as a Pixel Stand - those features are not available.
To add, I noticed the stands get in a state that bounces power on/off very quickly and doesn't stop. I would avoid these.
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cryppie said:
They sent two of these to me. Both show max 8.4 watts no matter what cable/plug I use and I have many. It also does not present itself as a Pixel Stand - those features are not available.
To add, I noticed the stands get in a state that bounces power on/off very quickly and doesn't stop. I would avoid these.
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What do you mean it bounces on and off? Like it says charging and then says it's not charging at the bottom?
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What do you mean it bounces on and off? Like it says charging and then says it's not charging at the bottom?
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Yes, bouncing like a bad port on a router/switch. It goes from charging/not charging very quickly over and over after about 3-5 minutes of charging.
mine arrived today, I can also confirm slow charging and no pixel stand functionality no matter what adapter or cable I use
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mine arrived today, I can also confirm slow charging and no pixel stand functionality no matter what adapter or cable I use
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Sorry for any delayed responses here (holiday) though I have just caught these testing results.
I just received an additional (2) of the same chargers and all seem to charge fine here. (Pixel 4 XL)
All being used with Samsung AC Fast Charging AC adapter.
Check to see if the AC adapter you are using has both 5v & 9v output. (Must have 9v for the FAST to charge)
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Can you post a photo of the AC adapter that you are using ? (all photos could be of assistance here.)
The stand itself is 20w so fast charging would more or less come down to the AC plug.
** Keep in mind that the OG cable and AC charger plug that came with the PIXEL phone is not compatible
with this charger that will hit at SLOW. (mentioned in OG post)
I tried several, from the OEM to choetech to aukey to zte. I used the cable it came with, OEM a to c, OEM c, third party c; i tried both type c and qc3 chargers...all with no success. I wouldn't think the pixel stand feature shouldn't have anything to do with charging speed, though I can't say for sure
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I tried several, from the OEM to choetech to aukey to zte. I used the cable it came with, OEM a to c, OEM c, third party c; i tried both type c and qc3 chargers...all with no success. I wouldn't think the pixel stand feature shouldn't have anything to do with charging speed, though I can't say for sure
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I believe the PIXEL stand software features only become enabled when detecting a FAST CHARGE at 13.5w.
(which is capable when using AC adapters of 9v & more)
The only AC adapter I personally have found to be non working was THE OG stuff & USB C to USB C
Most USB C to USB A seemed to work with no hitch.
USB C adapters, had no issues with them either. worked fine.
Can you snap of picture of the AC adapter labels. ?
See if we could narrow down the issues.
also one last .... check the actual charging wattage using the app Inware. (Battery Tab)
The lock screen charging message will ONLY show Charging Wireless - not rapid charging (which is easily misleading) though is running at FAST WIRELESS CHARGING speeds.
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mrbogusbaxter said:
I believe the PIXEL stand software features only become enabled when detecting a FAST CHARGE at 13.5w.
(which is capable when using AC adapters of 9v & more)
The only AC adapter I personally have found to be non working was THE OG stuff & USB C to USB C
Most USB C to USB A seemed to work with no hitch.
USB C adapters, had no issues with them either. worked fine.
Can you snap of picture of the AC adapter labels. ?
See if we could narrow down the issues.
also one last .... check the actual charging wattage using the app Inware. (Battery Tab)
The lock screen charging message will ONLY show Charging Wireless - not rapid charging (which is easily misleading) though is running at FAST WIRELESS CHARGING speeds.
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Using with LG stylo 5 fast adapter and the chargingspeed is fast. between 1 1/2 hours - 2 hours total. Using with Usb C to Usb A cable 3 ft.
My only issue really was trying to get the extra software up and running. I couldn't figure out why or how to do it. strange as I moved my pixel phone upwards while resting on the dock all of a sudden it just appeared out of nowhere to activate all the extras. weird device for sure but works.
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Using with LG stylo 5 fast adapter and the chargingspeed is fast. between 1 1/2 hours - 2 hours total. Using with Usb C to Usb A cable 3 ft.
My only issue really was trying to get the extra software up and running. I couldn't figure out why or how to do it. strange as I moved my pixel phone upwards while resting on the dock all of a sudden it just appeared out of nowhere to activate all the extras. weird device for sure but works.
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---- II personally didnt even know there was such software initially for as it only showed up about an hour later sitting on the charger. Please let us know how it all goes and if you have any trouble along the way.
Knowing they are knock offs, I am kind of curious to see what the long run holds. Thanks for the info.
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---- II personally didnt even know there was such software initially for as it only showed up about an hour later sitting on the charger. Please let us know how it all goes and if you have any trouble along the way.
Knowing they are knock offs, I am kind of curious to see what the long run holds. Thanks for the info.
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forgot to ask, can you share the specs of your LG charger for us ? All the info helps build the list of do's and donts. Thanks..
I am using the original lg fast adapter plug.
9.0v 1.8amps and 5.0v 1.8 amps. working well with stand.
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Using with LG stylo 5 fast adapter and the chargingspeed is fast. between 1 1/2 hours - 2 hours total. Using with Usb C to Usb A cable 3 ft.
My only issue really was trying to get the extra software up and running. I couldn't figure out why or how to do it. strange as I moved my pixel phone upwards while resting on the dock all of a sudden it just appeared out of nowhere to activate all the extras. weird device for sure but works.
Thanks I'll have to try that when I get mine
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I ordered a pair of these stands as well and am still waiting for them.
But I did order this one before that from amazon https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07Y9J68TC
and it also gets recognized as a pixel stand. (only when using samsung or QC3 adapters though)