USB Type C cables reviewed by Google engineer - Nexus 6P Accessories

Google product engineer +BensonLeung has tested several cables, and the vast majority of them fail to meet the Type C specification, some even dangerously drawing too much power.
Interesting to note that the hugely popular Orzly cables fail his tests.

can't even trust the word "certified by **** company" on the products anymore. that's why you just can't ignore product reviewers.

Haha, I was just coming to post this myself. Its good we have people looking out for this sort of thing. Stuff like this always pops up in the early phases of new tech or standard roll outs. Remember all the faulty knock off lightning cables for apple stuff when that first launched?

Potentially bad news for those of us with the One+ cables though;
+Rajesh Handa , +Guille Laca, +Jared Valles, +Steven Lefkoff, unfortunately I have bad news about the One+ cables. The One+ cables, despite ostensibly being from a 1st party phone maker, are out of spec. They use an incorrect 3A configuration as well.
I haven't reviewed them on Amazon because they aren't for sale there directly from One+
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Jazazze said:
Potentially bad news for those of us with the One+ cables though;
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Yes, this is incredibly annoying. I have recently bought two of them, specifically because I didn't want to buy from some random Amazon seller.
I've just emailed One+'s customer service to get their comment on it, and request a full refund.

krs360 said:
Yes, this is incredibly annoying. I have recently bought two of them, specifically because I didn't want to buy from some random Amazon seller.
I've just emailed One+'s customer service to get their comment on it, and request a full refund.
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Let me know how that goes, I may do the same.

It sucks he has not recommended any chargers or USB-C to USB-C cables. The only cables he has reviewed are USB A to USB-C and it is my understanding that these will not quick charge the device anyhow.
I have started a Google Sheet to track USB Type C cables and accessories. I have also enhanced to include N5X and N6P products. Check it out!

bmcclure937 said:
It sucks he has not recommended any chargers or USB-C to USB-C cables. The only cables he has reviewed are USB A to USB-C and it is my understanding that these will not quick charge the device anyhow.
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I'm using the Google one that came with my phone right now plugged in to my USB 3.0 port on my PC, and it says "Charging Rapidly".

krs360 said:
I'm using the Google one that came with my phone right now plugged in to my USB 3.0 port on my PC, and it says "Charging Rapidly".
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Not to change gears but I topped my 6p off yesterday before first boot up and let it and my htc m8 both drain completely, them plugged 6p to packaged charger and my m8 to a nexus 6 fast charger and a 6-ft micro usb I bought fro at&t and the m8 charged... Much... Faster. Are Google's fast charging claims unfounded or is the N6 charger from Motorola just that fast?
Might repost this in q&a aub, but was wondering how your experience hs been thusfar.
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pokedroid said:
Not to change gears but I topped my 6p off yesterday before first boot up and let it and my htc m8 both drain completely, them plugged 6p to packaged charger and my m8 to a nexus 6 fast charger and a 6-ft micro usb I bought fro at&t and the m8 charged... Much... Faster. Are Google's fast charging claims unfounded or is the N6 charger from Motorola just that fast?
Might repost this in q&a aub, but was wondering how your experience hs been thusfar.
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Remember that the M8 has a 2,600 mAh battery and the 6P has a 3,450 mAh battery. The 6P battery is almost 35% larger than the M8, and will require more time to charge. How much charge did the 6P have when the M8 finished charging?
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krs360 said:
Yes, this is incredibly annoying. I have recently bought two of them, specifically because I didn't want to buy from some random Amazon seller.
I've just emailed One+'s customer service to get their comment on it, and request a full refund.
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Let me know how that goes, I may do the same.
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Ditto. I bought 3 and I might keep them for slow charging, like overnight. The price wasn't bad.

That's is a very fair point and good question. If I'm not mistaken between 65-75%. Nothing crazy, but one thing I will say, I play a game that drains the battery very badly, even after I close and even force close the app (love it so much I am willing to live with it) but I drained it all the way back down this morning playing the game and instead of turning it back on and starting the charge from 1% and leaving it on so I can track its progress (after a restart, the game normally doesn't cause any battery drain until I open it again), I left it off to charge, and I came back less than 40 minutes later and the thing was full.. I couldn't believe it so I turned it on and unplugged it and sure enough, 98%. It could be that the game was causing such drain (which is scary because the it never eats battery after a reboot) that it slowed the charging process, but I guess I'll never know for sure.

krs360 said:
Yes, this is incredibly annoying. I have recently bought two of them, specifically because I didn't want to buy from some random Amazon seller.
I've just emailed One+'s customer service to get their comment on it, and request a full refund.
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RED ZMAN said:
Let me know how that goes, I may do the same.
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I emailed them as well to cancel my order and refund me in full. Waiting on a response.

should we still have to worry about even if we use a basic charger (5v - 2a) to charge our 6P with those generic cables? seems like the google engineer only tested and raised concerned with rapid charging. this might get too far once wireless charging stickers/cases are introduced.

sharpehenry said:
should we still have to worry about even if we use a basic charger (5v - 2a) to charge our 6P with those generic cables? seems like the google engineer only tested and raised concerned with rapid charging. this might get too far once wireless charging stickers/cases are introduced.
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Based on the text in his reviews, it sounds like the risk of damage is to your charger, not your phone. The phone can (obviously) handle a 3A charging speed but a USB A charger most likely cannot.

havanahjoe said:
Ditto. I bought 3 and I might keep them for slow charging, like overnight. The price wasn't bad.
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I was thinking the same thing. I bought 2 sets, just keep them around for data transfer and such as most of my stuff will be attached to google official chargers Type C to Type C. May as well, they are beautiful.

sharpehenry said:
should we still have to worry about even if we use a basic charger (5v - 2a) to charge our 6P with those generic cables?
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That's all I want to know: can I use these "sketchy" cables with an old Motorola charger that's 5V/1A. I have a bunch of these chargers in various places, and I would just like to have the option to top off. Not to mention my car charger.

sharpehenry said:
should we still have to worry about even if we use a basic charger (5v - 2a) to charge our 6P with those generic cables? seems like the google engineer only tested and raised concerned with rapid charging. this might get too far once wireless charging stickers/cases are introduced.
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Eh I personally wont run the risk of ruining my $500 smartphone by skimping out on $10 for a nicer cable.

Any adapter advice?

krs360 said:
Google product engineer +BensonLeung has tested several cables, and the vast majority of them fail to meet the Type C specification, some even dangerously drawing too much power.
Interesting to note that the hugely popular Orzly cables fail his tests.
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Hey everyone! As you all know im always doing reviews on loads of products and have reviewed these cables with the OnePlus 2! Obviously they work perfectly for that as they were built for the OnePlus 2 originally. I did contact them though and they did let me know that as soon as it was brought to there attention they corrected the issue and i actually received the new version of the cable today and i will review it and have the video up tomorrow! For everyone using a OnePlus 2 its nothing to worry about though. The only items that it could affect are things that power at 3A so just keep that in mind before you go throwing out your cables!

DustinDep said:
The only items that it could affect are things that power at 3A so just keep that in mind before you go throwing out your cables!
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Longer (1.8m or so) micro USB cable that still charges with 1900mAh?

Have been looking for a while to find an (affordable) micro USB cable which is a lot longer than the stock cable. When charging the phone right now I must contort myself in strange positions because of the rather short length of the supplied cable.
So I'm looking for a longer (>1.5m) cable but that one must also still charge with the same rate as the stock cable: 1900mA...
After reading some reviews on Amazon for example it seems that those cables are rather hard to find. They all lower the amount of charging current.
So the question is: does anybody know of such a cable (and has tried it himself with Galaxy Charging Current for example so it charges with 1900mA for sure :angel: ).
Thanks in advance :good:
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Have been looking for a while to find an (affordable) micro USB cable which is a lot longer than the stock cable. When charging the phone right now I must contort myself in strange positions because of the rather short length of the supplied cable.
So I'm looking for a longer (>1.5m) cable but that one must also still charge with the same rate as the stock cable: 1900mAh...
After reading some reviews on Amazon for example it seems that those cables are rather hard to find. They all lower the amount of charging current.
So the question is: does anybody know of such a cable (and has tried it himself with Galaxy Charging Current for example so it charges with 1900mAh for sure :angel: ).
Thanks in advance :good:
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http://www.amazon.com/Mediabridge-USB-Charging-Cable-Micro-B/dp/B009W34X1I/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1379451825&sr=8-2&keywords=micro+usb+charge+cable
Pfeffernuss said:
Have been looking for a while to find an (affordable) micro USB cable which is a lot longer than the stock cable. When charging the phone right now I must contort myself in strange positions because of the rather short length of the supplied cable.
So I'm looking for a longer (>1.5m) cable but that one must also still charge with the same rate as the stock cable: 1900mAh...
After reading some reviews on Amazon for example it seems that those cables are rather hard to find. They all lower the amount of charging current.
So the question is: does anybody know of such a cable (and has tried it himself with Galaxy Charging Current for example so it charges with 1900mAh for sure :angel: ).
Thanks in advance :good:
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Mah is not a charging rate. Its known as a discharge rate or capacity of the battery/cells. You might have better luck searching for it as 1900 ma (milliamps) or 1.9A (amps). I use lithium batteries in all my rc trucks and the radios and had to do a bit of studying about them, improper charging or discharging can lead to degradation of the cells or catastrophic failure (explosion).
Hit thanks if I helped you out. Doing a little bit of reading goes a long way. Sent via tapatalk.
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http://www.amazon.com/Mediabridge-USB-Charging-Cable-Micro-B/dp/B009W34X1I/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1379451825&sr=8-2&keywords=micro+usb+charge+cable
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Thanks, but as is almost always the case with articles not being sold by Amazon directly: "We're sorry. This item can't be shipped to your selected destination. You may either change the shipping address or delete the item from your order."
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Mah is not a charging rate. Its known as a discharge rate or capacity of the battery/cells.
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Of course you're right... Changed my post but unable to alter the title of the thread now. Oh well, I think people will still be able to guess what I'm requesting though
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Thanks, but as is almost always the case with articles not being sold by Amazon directly: "We're sorry. This item can't be shipped to your selected destination. You may either change the shipping address or delete the item from your order."
Of course you're right... Changed my post but unable to alter the title of the thread now. Oh well, I think people will still be able to guess what I'm requesting though
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Yeah I think theyll get the jist of it :thumbup:
Hit thanks if I helped you out. Doing a little bit of reading goes a long way. Sent via tapatalk.
Ordered two different cables from Amazon.de. Will update this thread when they arrive with the charging currents :good:
I just use a USB extension I think they are A to B, doesn't seam to effect charging or anything else untoward.
Edit look at this
3 meters long and rated for 2A
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=331026413505
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ranger4740 said:
I just use a USB extension I think they are A to B, doesn't seam to effect charging or anything else untoward.
Edit look at this
3 meters long and rated for 2A
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=331026413505
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I'm after the same! Would this do the trick?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/AmazonBasic...d=1379590419&sr=8-1&keywords=micro+USB+6+feet
ranger4740 said:
3 meters long and rated for 2A
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It's not rated for 2A at all
Those (cheap) cables rarely (or even better: never) offer the same loading charge. Especially at that length.
These work: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AR4M04S/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Using one on both my HP Touchpad that has a Charging Current app and it says 2A and my S4 is also using one. It also claims 1900mA. They are good cables for me.
DarkStarr said:
These work: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AR4M04S/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Can't order those
Pfeffernuss said:
Have been looking for a while to find an (affordable) micro USB cable which is a lot longer than the stock cable. When charging the phone right now I must contort myself in strange positions because of the rather short length of the supplied cable.
So I'm looking for a longer (>1.5m) cable but that one must also still charge with the same rate as the stock cable: 1900mA...
After reading some reviews on Amazon for example it seems that those cables are rather hard to find. They all lower the amount of charging current.
So the question is: does anybody know of such a cable (and has tried it himself with Galaxy Charging Current for example so it charges with 1900mA for sure :angel: ).
Thanks in advance :good:
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I have the exact same problem as you, I have tried 10 different micro USB cables and only the white cable from the S4 charger chargers to 1900 or 1.9amps.
I ordered three of these below, as other forums recommended them, they should arrive today or tomorrow, if you can wait, I will test the output on them and report back.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=9762&seq=1&format=2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN2TQ2MYx_s
ipaq_101 said:
I ordered three of these below, as other forums recommended them, they should arrive today or tomorrow, if you can wait, I will test the output on them and report back.
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Already some from Amazon.de on the way and ordering from US-based sites is often quite difficult for us Europeans. However, I would of course like to know your result, so please :good:
Funny, I usually strive to find smaller (10-30cm) cables.
What I need someone to explain to me is how do you know the cable isn't charging at max intensity. Does it not charge at all, or you measure the current, or what?
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Already some from Amazon.de on the way and ordering from US-based sites is often quite difficult for us Europeans. However, I would of course like to know your result, so please :good:
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Just got them, they charge at 1.9amps, perfect fit and they look great.
ipaq_101 said:
Just got them, they charge at 1.9amps, perfect fit and they look great.
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Well done! Thanks for the update! :good:
joazito said:
Funny, I usually strive to find smaller (10-30cm) cables.
What I need someone to explain to me is how do you know the cable isn't charging at max intensity. Does it not charge at all, or you measure the current, or what?
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Shorter cables are handy for their own purposes as well, like in a car or something. However, when I'm watching tv and the phone is being charged the supplied cable, for me, is much too short. Very awkward to play with the phone when the cable is short, hence I wanted a longer cable.
Longer cables alas usually lower the charging current so while it surely does charge the phone it takes much, much longer to do so
ipaq_101 said:
I have the exact same problem as you, I have tried 10 different micro USB cables and only the white cable from the S4 charger chargers to 1900 or 1.9amps.
I ordered three of these below, as other forums recommended them, they should arrive today or tomorrow, if you can wait, I will test the output on them and report back.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=9762&seq=1&format=2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN2TQ2MYx_s
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Could I have an eBay link of this cable please?
ipaq_101 said:
Just got them, they charge at 1.9amps, perfect fit and they look great.
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With $32 shipping not a viable option. Would like them though as both cables from Amazon.de don't charge with anything above 1000mA
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With $32 shipping not a viable option. Would like them though as both cables from Amazon.de don't charge with anything above 1000mA
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Yea that isn't worth it, unless you order 10 and maybe sell them on ebay locally yourself to recoup the shipping cost.
I bought 3 and the company is less than 50 miles form where I live, so the shipping was only $2.50.
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jujuburi said:
Could I have an eBay link of this cable please?
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I linked the website you can buy them from, they aren't sold on ebay.
ipaq_101 said:
I have the exact same problem as you, I have tried 10 different micro USB cables and only the white cable from the S4 charger chargers to 1900 or 1.9amps.
I ordered three of these below, as other forums recommended them, they should arrive today or tomorrow, if you can wait, I will test the output on them and report back.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=9762&seq=1&format=2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN2TQ2MYx_s
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Hi, did you get the cables? Looking at the photos on Monoprice they look fantastic.
I am honestly tired of the crappy cables, even the S4 came in with a cable that I can't fold.
Need something like the Apple USB cable...

One Plus USB C flat cables

https://oneplus.net/type-c-cable Not a horrible price for the 150 cm at $6.99 I grabbed three myself.
fatboypup said:
https://oneplus.net/type-c-cable Not a horrible price for the 150 cm at $6.99 I grabbed three myself.
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Interesting deal those are quite the color
I hope they support fast charging. I bought 2 150cm and 1 100cm cables
Pilz said:
I hope they support fast charging. I bought 2 150cm and 1 100cm cables
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If you look at the USB-C pinout, I really doubt these support fast charging. These only have 4 pins for the USB 2.0 interface, I believe the 5W @ 3A is only possible via the cable bus power and ground since that delivery is unique to USB Type-C.
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If you look at the USB-C pinout, I really doubt these support fast charging. These only have 4 pins for the USB 2.0 interface, I believe the 5W @ 3A is only possible via the cable bus power and ground since that delivery is unique to USB Type-C.
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So you're saying it needs to be Type-C to Type-C for fast charging?
Pilz said:
I hope they support fast charging. I bought 2 150cm and 1 100cm cables
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It maxes out at 2A, and fast charge for the 6P is at 3A. It'll be charging at 2/3 the speed of fast charging.
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So you're saying it needs to be Type-C to Type-C for fast charging?
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AFAIK, that is true. I'm not electrical engineer though, only took the intro class to that major in freshman year...
kalookakoo said:
It maxes out at 2A, and fast charge for the 6P is at 3A. It'll be charging at 2/3 the speed of fast charging.
AFAIK, that is true. I'm not electrical engineer though, only took the intro class to that major in freshman year...
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I took an EE type course too but we never learned about pin set ups for cables lol. 2A is still good enough when I need a cable on he go
how much is shipping from OP?
Probably going to cancel my order then. I need the fast charging. Guess that means I need a new brick too then eh?
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Actually, it says in the product description that it delivers up to 2amps. Oops. Hope they get my ticket.
cm? This is 'Murica. Land of the free and home to the Google. How many inches/feet?
Although it may not matter much given a phone is obsolete in a year or two, I suspect charging at 2/3 or less would greatly extend battery life.
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cm? This is 'Murica. Land of the free and home to the Google. How many inches/feet?
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Let me Google that...
About 5' cable.
rufflez2010 said:
Let me Google that...
About 5' cable.
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Thank you I just read it is only 2A though. But thanks again. I was tired of Googling metric measurements. When will the rest of the world catch up and start using the empirical system?
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Thank you I just read it is only 2A though. But thanks again. I was tired of Googling metric measurements. When will the rest of the world catch up and start using the empirical system?
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. The world isn't ready for it. They need things to be base-10 for it to make sense.
I've ordered two of these, one of each size regardless of fast charge capabilities. I have so many regular USB-A chargers dotted all over the place that I might as well keep them useful. Plus the One Plus cables have a really good quality track record among their fans.
Also I tend to carry an extra cable with me with no charger for use in unexpected circumstances, and USB A ports are of course the most common available in a pinch. Simply practical to have extra C to A cables.
I might invest in an additional fast charger beyond what is supplied, once we have complete and precise clarification on how to maximize the 6P fast charging.
Awesome cables, I bought 5 because they're better than the offerings on Amazon while being easier to plug in, and perfectly compatible with my Macbook.
Mine came today
Definitely feels like quality cable
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Definitely feels like quality cable
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Did you order directly from OP?
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Did you order directly from OP?
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Yes

Buy more stock chargers?

I really like the charger that came with my 6P, it's compact and charges both my Macbook and my phone, but I can't seem to find it for anywhere? It looks like the one from the Google store is not the same. Anyone know where to find it?
I email huawei but they never email be back
mdmogren said:
I really like the charger that came with my 6P, it's compact and charges both my Macbook and my phone, but I can't seem to find it for anywhere? It looks like the one from the Google store is not the same. Anyone know where to find it?
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I find there to be no use with needing the stock charger over the 15w one from Google. Some may argue, well the type c cable is attached to the wall adapter. Sure, but what are you going to plug your phone into that has another type c port? I get your macbook has a type c port but it isnt as common as the type a usb port.
mdmogren said:
I really like the charger that came with my 6P, it's compact and charges both my Macbook and my phone, but I can't seem to find it for anywhere? It looks like the one from the Google store is not the same. Anyone know where to find it?
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well i don't know how you can claim the stock charger is compact (it's easily 2x longer than the stock nexus 6 charger), but i do like that the plug is removable. the replacement they're selling on the google store has a hard-wired cable. it works and is good, but i don't care for the hard wired part
I could safely bet that Huawei made a deal with Google that they wont sell the stock charger so that Google can make more accessory sales.
You can always buy the dual port charger from Google (https://store.google.com/product/usb_c_dual_port_charger). Yes its more expensive, but comes with an extra long cable, and the way USB C is going you'll have more USB C devices in the future for that extra port to be useful.
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I could safely bet that Huawei made a deal with Google that they wont sell the stock charger so that Google can make more accessory sales.
You can always buy the dual port charger from Google (https://store.google.com/product/usb_c_dual_port_charger). Yes its more expensive, but comes with an extra long cable, and the way USB C is going you'll have more USB C devices in the future for that extra port to be useful.
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I would buy the 2 port if not for the reports that only one of the ports supports rapid charging. I don't want to have to constantly make sure I have the "right" cable (will be using one for macbook and 1 for phone.)
indianajonze said:
well i don't know how you can claim the stock charger is compact (it's easily 2x longer than the stock nexus 6 charger), but i do like that the plug is removable. the replacement they're selling on the google store has a hard-wired cable. it works and is good, but i don't care for the hard wired part
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Well, it's compact compared to my Apple USB-C charger which is more the size of a laptop brick. Also, agreed about the hard wired crap.
mdmogren said:
I would buy the 2 port if not for the reports that only one of the ports supports rapid charging. I don't want to have to constantly make sure I have the "right" cable (will be using one for macbook and 1 for phone.)
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Yeah, well its is only a 22.5Wmax charger so having only one port supporting rapid charge makes sense.
If you need to identify cables that are identical you can always just put some colored tape around the ends or a sticker.
As you have a Macbook, you can probably find better USB C solutions for your needs; the Google Store page does say that "Wattage is optimized for smaller devices, like phones and tablets. Larger devices, such as laptops, will take longer to charge."
Not available unfortunately. Google charger is basically your only 15w charging solution right now. If you can wait a month I bet we'll see that change.
mdmogren said:
I really like the charger that came with my 6P, it's compact and charges both my Macbook and my phone, but I can't seem to find it for anywhere? It looks like the one from the Google store is not the same. Anyone know where to find it?
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mdmogren said:
I would buy the 2 port if not for the reports that only one of the ports supports rapid charging. I don't want to have to constantly make sure I have the "right" cable (will be using one for macbook and 1 for phone.)
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I got one yesterday will test it today and let you know. My understanding was that either port could rapid charge, but when you have two devices only one will rapid charge but the charger would rapid charge the device with the least amount of battery.
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It seems, based on reviews here, that only one port will actually rapid charge regardless of your devices charge or which device was plugged in first. That might not be so bad (and expected given the rated wattage) but the charger isn't labeled to tell you which port is the rapid charge one and isn't sold with an explanation describing the situation.
moe2046 said:
I got one yesterday will test it today and let you know. My understanding was that either port could rapid charge, but when you have two devices only one will rapid charge but the charger would rapid charge the device with the least amount of battery.
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I just tested this and you are absolutely right, the second port only charges whereas the first port rapidly charges. Now wondering if I should return it and save some cash and get the single port charger. Although it still seems like a handy device to have when wall outlets are limited.
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I find there to be no use with needing the stock charger over the 15w one from Google. Some may argue, well the type c cable is attached to the wall adapter. Sure, but what are you going to plug your phone into that has another type c port? I get your macbook has a type c port but it isnt as common as the type a usb port.
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For me, It's not really about unplugging the cable to use for something else. Cables go bad. If the cable goes bad, the whole charger is shot. That's a bit of a waste to me. Also, you can't buy different length cables for the charger either.
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Yeah, well its is only a 22.5Wmax charger so having only one port supporting rapid charge makes sense.
If you need to identify cables that are identical you can always just put some colored tape around the ends or a sticker.
As you have a Macbook, you can probably find better USB C solutions for your needs; the Google Store page does say that "Wattage is optimized for smaller devices, like phones and tablets. Larger devices, such as laptops, will take longer to charge."
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Considering that the Google Dual Port Charger does not support 3A on both ports and it is likely the 6P and 5X might be the only 5V/3A devices you might every see, it would have made much more sense for the this charger to have 1-3A Type C port and 1-2.4A Type A port!
dwswager said:
Considering that the Google Dual Port Charger does not support 3A on both ports and it is likely the 6P and 5X might be the only 5V/3A devices you might every see, it would have made much more sense for the this charger to have 1-3A Type C port and 1-2.4A Type A port!
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That would make much more sense.
The weird thing is that it leaves 7.5W if you're fast charging your nexus, but as USB-C which is not widespread, so...
My theory, I think the dual port charger is future proofing for wearables with USB C charging ports. Most Qi android wear docks run at 5v/.55a or so, which is well within the 7.5W possible. Looking at it that way, its a phone + wearable dualport charger.
It also aligns perfectly with the real (not google) USB C standard of 5v/1.5a.
FYI,
I ran across this charger today on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Type-C-Charger-CHOE-Charger-Adapter-Included/dp/B017I7EX46
So far, it doesn't have any reviews (all the reviews are for the Type A charger), but it's also saying that the estimated delivery date is Nov 25 - Dec 8. So, I guess it's shipping directly from China. I ordered one anyway. Worst case is that I'm out $17.
Not only does the one port work for 3A (the one closest to the white Google face logo), the charger must be in the wall before connecting to phone. If not, it will max out at 1.5A.
With the stock charger, it doesn't matter.

LG G5 Wireless charger?

I was digging around on ebay for accessories for my G5 and i suddenly found this type of wireless charger for LG G5 that comes with a sticker and it has a cable on the bottom to transfer the charge from the sticker into the phone. So.... has anyone tried it already? Comment what do you think about it. Are we getting closer to have wireless charging capability the same or similar way than other devices with wireless charging feature? In my opinion this might be an improvement. (not that i use wireless charging a lot but it is sometimes useful)
I've seen that this doesnt only work for the LG G5, it actually works for any device with type C usb as i have been digging even more and see that it works for other devices too.
Here is the link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Smart-Windo...987701?hash=item25bd7eb535:g:3VoAAOSwBPNXSYc2
joseguillen1994 said:
I was digging around on ebay for accessories for my G5 and i suddenly found this type of wireless charger for LG G5 that comes with a sticker and it has a cable on the bottom to transfer the charge from the sticker into the phone. So.... has anyone tried it already? Comment what do you think about it. Are we getting closer to have wireless charging capability the same or similar way than other devices with wireless charging feature? In my opinion this might be an improvement. (not that i use wireless charging a lot but it is sometimes useful)
I've seen that this doesnt only work for the LG G5, it actually works for any device with type C usb as i have been digging even more and see that it works for other devices too.
Here is the link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Smart-Windo...987701?hash=item25bd7eb535:g:3VoAAOSwBPNXSYc2
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You still need to get the charging base, unless you have one, many of these receiver that plugs into the USB port is not very reliable, too many detection error and very fragile, but I did try a micro USB QI receiver yesterday on the G5 and it work fine, that is upto now without error also trying some QI extention cable receiver, still work perfect.
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You still need to get the charging base, unless you have one, many of these receiver that plugs into the USB port is not very reliable, too many detection error and very fragile, but I did try a micro USB QI receiver yesterday on the G5 and it work fine, that is upto now without error also trying some QI extention cable receiver, still work perfect.
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What is most interesting about this is that it works with any device (smartphone) with Type C . According to the descriptions you find on ebay and amazon. I will have to give it a try. Dont know when i will be able to buy it exactly, but i will
I would check the output. These G5 take a large 1800mA (could be more haven't looked) charger. I used to grab those Qi universal charger films you are talking about. Worked great until phones started taking 1000mA or greater chargers. Many of these wireless chargers do NOT support fast enough charging. Meaning it could take 4 hours to get your battery to 50% or even longer (some are only 500mA chargers, almost 75% slower than normal).
So be prepared for extremely slow, albeit convenient, charging. Check the output of your charging base and the output of the charging film first.
I just ordered that sticker from eBay. I'll report back once I have it and tested it. I have the tylt 3-coil wireless charger. Charging speed is no issue for me. I don't need rapid charging like from the OEM charger.
If you don't have tylt, you can try the spigen 3-coil wireless charger. They're cheap on eBay! I'm not sure if it'll work (I haven't tested it) , but spigen is a good brand for most things.
Spigen f300w 3-coil wireless charger
http://www.ebay.com/itm/271833979776
Tylt VU 3-coil wireless charger
http://www.ebay.com/itm/361586697989
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ridel0w said:
I just ordered that sticker from eBay. I'll report back once I have it and tested it. I have the tylt 3-coil wireless charger. Charging speed is no issue for me. I don't need rapid charging like from the OEM charger.
If you don't have tylt, you can try the spigen 3-coil wireless charger. They're cheap on eBay! I'm not sure if it'll work (I haven't tested it) , but spigen is a good brand for most things.
Spigen f300w 3-coil wireless charger
http://www.ebay.com/itm/271833979776
Tylt VU 3-coil wireless charger
http://www.ebay.com/itm/361586697989
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Hey thanks. Let us know how it goes. Between the money i paid for the phone and college, well. Im pretty much broke right now. Im trying to sell my Galaxy s5 locally to get some money back and some of my covers among other things, however, here in miami people sell high, and want to buy extremely low.
I have it, not very good.
kms108 said:
I have it, not very good.
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Which one do you have? And tell us about your experience. How long it took to charge.from x% to y%
joseguillen1994 said:
Which one do you have? And tell us about your experience. How long it took to charge.from x% to y%
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There is only one available, no matter where you buy it, it's the same product, speed is slower than cable, but that was expected, if you use a case, it's very fiddly to put on and take off, as the plug area is very big when you compare them to other receivers like the micro USB or lightning.
kms108 said:
There is only one available, no matter where you buy it, it's the same product, speed is slower than cable, but that was expected, if you use a case, it's very fiddly to put on and take off, as the plug area is very big when you compare them to other receivers like the micro USB or lightning.
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Hmm, But what was the estimate time for the phone to fully charge from x% to y% ? Maybe with another cover it would be easier to put? There are quite a few now for g5
joseguillen1994 said:
Hmm, But what was the estimate time for the phone to fully charge from x% to y% ? Maybe with another cover it would be easier to put? There are quite a few now for g5
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If you are concern about slow speed, you shouldn't use it, as I say it's slower than cable, I mean with a normal charger, not a fast charger, but i'm ok with that, I have never liked fast charge, if you are using a TPU case, it easy to use, but cases like my voia or spigen style armor with removable bottom has problems, the head is very big, so not all case will fit.
kms108 said:
If you are concern about slow speed, you shouldn't use it, as I say it's slower than cable, I mean with a normal charger, not a fast charger, but i'm ok with that, I have never liked fast charge, if you are using a TPU case, it easy to use, but cases like my voia or spigen style armor with removable bottom has problems, the head is very big, so not all case will fit.
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Im not that concern though. After all i would only use it about 10% of the times. But people who really use it would probably like to know
Could you please take a picture, I am curious as to how much the head sticks out
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kms108 said:
If you are concern about slow speed, you shouldn't use it, as I say it's slower than cable, I mean with a normal charger, not a fast charger, but i'm ok with that, I have never liked fast charge, if you are using a TPU case, it easy to use, but cases like my voia or spigen style armor with removable bottom has problems, the head is very big, so not all case will fit.
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@cenwesi would like to know if (OP) "Could you please take a picture, I am curious as to how much the head sticks out"
Hey guys. Made a quick video of the module. Will update you once I have more time to test it. Sorry for the amateur nature
https://youtu.be/AxrFSz4Hv-M
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ridel0w said:
Hey guys. Made a quick video of the module. Will update you once I have more time to test it. Sorry for the amateur nature
https://youtu.be/AxrFSz4Hv-M
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Great!! thanks for sharing. Any intel about how long does it take to charge from x% to y%? any given value to x and any given value greater than X given to Y. Also, when you are using the device, whether it transfer enough energy to keep using the phone while it charges or whether the battery will decrease while you are using the phone. (In an average usage: Say, Facebook, youtube with brightness in about 50-70%, or having at least 3 or 4 applications running in the background that are not so heavy, nor light) If you have tried any of this things, or all of them, please share your experience with it.
According to the description of the link i posted, it says that the output is 1000mA
But thank you for sharing the video
With about 1 hour of charging, i got about 10% of charge. If there's load, it'll def drop the charging capability. I'll do more rigorous testing, but as it stands, it's charging slowly.
Part of it can also be because I'm using the tylt charger, which has a 5 w output.
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ridel0w said:
With about 1 hour of charging, i got about 10% of charge. If there's load, it'll def drop the charging capability. I'll do more rigorous testing, but as it stands, it's charging slowly.
Part of it can also be because I'm using the tylt charger, which has a 5 w output.
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hmm yeah. There might be some factors affecting the rate of charge. I mean, 10% in 1 hour? that shouldn't be a standard charge rate. I will dig in a little more and see what i can find out there in google. Maybe someone did try it with a charging dock with higher Watts output. I will let you know if i found something
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With about 1 hour of charging, i got about 10% of charge. If there's load, it'll def drop the charging capability. I'll do more rigorous testing, but as it stands, it's charging slowly.
Part of it can also be because I'm using the tylt charger, which has a 5 w output.
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hmm yeah. There might be some factors affecting the rate of charge. I mean, 10% in 1 hour? that shouldn't be a standard charge rate. I will dig in a little more and see what i can find out there in google. Maybe someone did try it with a charging dock with higher Watts output. I will let you know if i found something
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Okay, before i looked into google i decided to see what other sellers on ebay have to offer and here is what i found. There are sellers that sell the sticker along with a charging dock with an input of 2000mA and output of 1000mA, Power: 10W. I think that would only double the estimated time you just gave me from x to y being 10% in 1 hour . But it still too low. Maybe the cover is another factor? Maybe there are materials that decrease the overall charging rate by slowing the transference of energy from the dock to the wireless receiver. I will look for more info.

Wireless Charging

Anyone planning on or tried wireless charging yet? I see some decent reviews for the model below on Amazon. Just curious if it will charge quicker than my current phone (Nexus 6)?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M11UT3V/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_B3zqybSH2TE4Q
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No idea what you are linking too.
grinchyyy said:
Anyone planning on or tried wireless charging yet? I see some decent reviews for the model below on Amazon. Just curious if it will charge quicker than my current phone (Nexus 6)?
Wireless Charging Receiver, Nillkin...p/B01M11UT3V/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_B3zqybSH2TE4Q
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The Pixel does not support wireless charging. You would need to install one of those stick on QI compliant receivers that plug into the USB C port.
parakleet said:
No idea what you are linking too.
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TEK112 said:
The Pixel does not support wireless charging. You would need to install one of those stick on QI compliant receivers that plug into the USB C port.
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Yes I realize that, looking for opinions from anyone who has used these. I fixed the link too, oops.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M11UT3V/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_B3zqybSH2TE4Q
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grinchyyy said:
Yes I realize that, looking for opinions from anyone who has used these. I fixed the link too, oops.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M11UT3V/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_B3zqybSH2TE4Q
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I don't have first hand experience, but I see a few problems.
First, the USB C factory charger charges the phone to 70% in 15 minutes. It isn't like previous devices where you would throw it on the QI charger every spare moment because the battery took forever to charge. Second, the voltage output is not device specific and would take longer to charge the phone than using a standard USB C cable/charger.
I guess what I am saying is that yeah, any of the QI compliant stickers would work, but I ask, are they useful? I lived by QI on my Nexus 6, but seeing what type of battery life I get now, coupled with the ridiculously quick charge times, I no longer see the merit.
I don't mean to thread crap, but it took me a while to get over QI when weighing my options to upgrade. I honestly no longer miss wireless charging. I miss my dual facing stereo speaker and my almost 0 bezel from my Nexus 6, but not QI.
I hope this somewhat helps.
TEK112 said:
I don't have first hand experience, but I see a few problems.
First, the USB C factory charger charges the phone to 70% in 15 minutes. It isn't like previous devices where you would throw it on the QI charger every spare moment because the battery took forever to charge. Second, the voltage output is not device specific and would take longer to charge the phone than using a standard USB C cable/charger.
I guess what I am saying is that yeah, any of the QI compliant stickers would work, but I ask, are they useful? I lived by QI on my Nexus 6, but seeing what type of battery life I get now, coupled with the ridiculously quick charge times, I no longer see the merit.
I don't mean to thread crap, but it took me a while to get over QI when weighing my options to upgrade. I honestly no longer miss wireless charging. I miss my dual facing stereo speaker and my almost 0 bezel from my Nexus 6, but not QI.
I hope this somewhat helps.
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Definitely helps, and yes I too am struggling with just getting over wireless charging. It's just hard to cast aside all the wireless accessories (for 2 phones, my wife has one as well).
I think once there is an external DAC that has inline charging I'll happily dump the wireless charging idea haha!
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