Longer (1.8m or so) micro USB cable that still charges with 1900mAh? - Galaxy S 4 Accessories

Have been looking for a while to find an (affordable) micro USB cable which is a lot longer than the stock cable. When charging the phone right now I must contort myself in strange positions because of the rather short length of the supplied cable.
So I'm looking for a longer (>1.5m) cable but that one must also still charge with the same rate as the stock cable: 1900mA...
After reading some reviews on Amazon for example it seems that those cables are rather hard to find. They all lower the amount of charging current.
So the question is: does anybody know of such a cable (and has tried it himself with Galaxy Charging Current for example so it charges with 1900mA for sure :angel: ).
Thanks in advance :good:

Pfeffernuss said:
Have been looking for a while to find an (affordable) micro USB cable which is a lot longer than the stock cable. When charging the phone right now I must contort myself in strange positions because of the rather short length of the supplied cable.
So I'm looking for a longer (>1.5m) cable but that one must also still charge with the same rate as the stock cable: 1900mAh...
After reading some reviews on Amazon for example it seems that those cables are rather hard to find. They all lower the amount of charging current.
So the question is: does anybody know of such a cable (and has tried it himself with Galaxy Charging Current for example so it charges with 1900mAh for sure :angel: ).
Thanks in advance :good:
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http://www.amazon.com/Mediabridge-USB-Charging-Cable-Micro-B/dp/B009W34X1I/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1379451825&sr=8-2&keywords=micro+usb+charge+cable

Pfeffernuss said:
Have been looking for a while to find an (affordable) micro USB cable which is a lot longer than the stock cable. When charging the phone right now I must contort myself in strange positions because of the rather short length of the supplied cable.
So I'm looking for a longer (>1.5m) cable but that one must also still charge with the same rate as the stock cable: 1900mAh...
After reading some reviews on Amazon for example it seems that those cables are rather hard to find. They all lower the amount of charging current.
So the question is: does anybody know of such a cable (and has tried it himself with Galaxy Charging Current for example so it charges with 1900mAh for sure :angel: ).
Thanks in advance :good:
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Mah is not a charging rate. Its known as a discharge rate or capacity of the battery/cells. You might have better luck searching for it as 1900 ma (milliamps) or 1.9A (amps). I use lithium batteries in all my rc trucks and the radios and had to do a bit of studying about them, improper charging or discharging can lead to degradation of the cells or catastrophic failure (explosion).
Hit thanks if I helped you out. Doing a little bit of reading goes a long way. Sent via tapatalk.

vw671 said:
http://www.amazon.com/Mediabridge-USB-Charging-Cable-Micro-B/dp/B009W34X1I/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1379451825&sr=8-2&keywords=micro+usb+charge+cable
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Thanks, but as is almost always the case with articles not being sold by Amazon directly: "We're sorry. This item can't be shipped to your selected destination. You may either change the shipping address or delete the item from your order."
hexitnow said:
Mah is not a charging rate. Its known as a discharge rate or capacity of the battery/cells.
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Of course you're right... Changed my post but unable to alter the title of the thread now. Oh well, I think people will still be able to guess what I'm requesting though

Pfeffernuss said:
Thanks, but as is almost always the case with articles not being sold by Amazon directly: "We're sorry. This item can't be shipped to your selected destination. You may either change the shipping address or delete the item from your order."
Of course you're right... Changed my post but unable to alter the title of the thread now. Oh well, I think people will still be able to guess what I'm requesting though
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Yeah I think theyll get the jist of it :thumbup:
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Ordered two different cables from Amazon.de. Will update this thread when they arrive with the charging currents :good:

I just use a USB extension I think they are A to B, doesn't seam to effect charging or anything else untoward.
Edit look at this
3 meters long and rated for 2A
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=331026413505
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ranger4740 said:
I just use a USB extension I think they are A to B, doesn't seam to effect charging or anything else untoward.
Edit look at this
3 meters long and rated for 2A
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=331026413505
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I'm after the same! Would this do the trick?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/AmazonBasic...d=1379590419&sr=8-1&keywords=micro+USB+6+feet

ranger4740 said:
3 meters long and rated for 2A
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It's not rated for 2A at all
Those (cheap) cables rarely (or even better: never) offer the same loading charge. Especially at that length.

These work: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AR4M04S/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Using one on both my HP Touchpad that has a Charging Current app and it says 2A and my S4 is also using one. It also claims 1900mA. They are good cables for me.

DarkStarr said:
These work: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AR4M04S/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Can't order those

Pfeffernuss said:
Have been looking for a while to find an (affordable) micro USB cable which is a lot longer than the stock cable. When charging the phone right now I must contort myself in strange positions because of the rather short length of the supplied cable.
So I'm looking for a longer (>1.5m) cable but that one must also still charge with the same rate as the stock cable: 1900mA...
After reading some reviews on Amazon for example it seems that those cables are rather hard to find. They all lower the amount of charging current.
So the question is: does anybody know of such a cable (and has tried it himself with Galaxy Charging Current for example so it charges with 1900mA for sure :angel: ).
Thanks in advance :good:
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I have the exact same problem as you, I have tried 10 different micro USB cables and only the white cable from the S4 charger chargers to 1900 or 1.9amps.
I ordered three of these below, as other forums recommended them, they should arrive today or tomorrow, if you can wait, I will test the output on them and report back.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=9762&seq=1&format=2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN2TQ2MYx_s

ipaq_101 said:
I ordered three of these below, as other forums recommended them, they should arrive today or tomorrow, if you can wait, I will test the output on them and report back.
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Already some from Amazon.de on the way and ordering from US-based sites is often quite difficult for us Europeans. However, I would of course like to know your result, so please :good:

Funny, I usually strive to find smaller (10-30cm) cables.
What I need someone to explain to me is how do you know the cable isn't charging at max intensity. Does it not charge at all, or you measure the current, or what?

Pfeffernuss said:
Already some from Amazon.de on the way and ordering from US-based sites is often quite difficult for us Europeans. However, I would of course like to know your result, so please :good:
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Just got them, they charge at 1.9amps, perfect fit and they look great.

ipaq_101 said:
Just got them, they charge at 1.9amps, perfect fit and they look great.
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Well done! Thanks for the update! :good:
joazito said:
Funny, I usually strive to find smaller (10-30cm) cables.
What I need someone to explain to me is how do you know the cable isn't charging at max intensity. Does it not charge at all, or you measure the current, or what?
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Shorter cables are handy for their own purposes as well, like in a car or something. However, when I'm watching tv and the phone is being charged the supplied cable, for me, is much too short. Very awkward to play with the phone when the cable is short, hence I wanted a longer cable.
Longer cables alas usually lower the charging current so while it surely does charge the phone it takes much, much longer to do so

ipaq_101 said:
I have the exact same problem as you, I have tried 10 different micro USB cables and only the white cable from the S4 charger chargers to 1900 or 1.9amps.
I ordered three of these below, as other forums recommended them, they should arrive today or tomorrow, if you can wait, I will test the output on them and report back.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=9762&seq=1&format=2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN2TQ2MYx_s
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Could I have an eBay link of this cable please?

ipaq_101 said:
Just got them, they charge at 1.9amps, perfect fit and they look great.
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With $32 shipping not a viable option. Would like them though as both cables from Amazon.de don't charge with anything above 1000mA

Pfeffernuss said:
With $32 shipping not a viable option. Would like them though as both cables from Amazon.de don't charge with anything above 1000mA
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Yea that isn't worth it, unless you order 10 and maybe sell them on ebay locally yourself to recoup the shipping cost.
I bought 3 and the company is less than 50 miles form where I live, so the shipping was only $2.50.
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jujuburi said:
Could I have an eBay link of this cable please?
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I linked the website you can buy them from, they aren't sold on ebay.

ipaq_101 said:
I have the exact same problem as you, I have tried 10 different micro USB cables and only the white cable from the S4 charger chargers to 1900 or 1.9amps.
I ordered three of these below, as other forums recommended them, they should arrive today or tomorrow, if you can wait, I will test the output on them and report back.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=9762&seq=1&format=2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN2TQ2MYx_s
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Hi, did you get the cables? Looking at the photos on Monoprice they look fantastic.
I am honestly tired of the crappy cables, even the S4 came in with a cable that I can't fold.
Need something like the Apple USB cable...

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[Q] Charger for the TF

Anyone know where I can get the charger for the TF that's cheaper than $30? The cheapest place I could find seems to be officedepot.com.
http://www.officedepot.com/a/produc...-2FB9-E011-9F24-0019B9C043EB&mr:referralID=NA
Please help.
http://www.amazon.com/CellularFacto...LDKG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1327389852&sr=8-1
Try this one.
jasonwuzthere said:
http://www.amazon.com/CellularFacto...LDKG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1327389852&sr=8-1
Try this one.
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That's just a USB cable. No charger there.
goodintentions said:
Anyone know where I can get the charger for the TF that's cheaper than $30? The cheapest place I could find seems to be officedepot.com.
http://www.officedepot.com/a/produc...-2FB9-E011-9F24-0019B9C043EB&mr:referralID=NA
Please help.
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I haven't seen anything any cheaper. So if you really need it then I would cough up the $30 & be done. I have seen them as much as $50.
Oh, you need the wall wart. You'll have to cough it up, as far as I can tell. I tried using the one from my Droid and it wouldn't charge, so just any wall adapter won't do.
You might find one on ebay as a last budget resort.
I could be wrong, but I read somewhere (probably here) that the charger just has to be able to give 12V for the transformer to charge correctly. So a switchable power-supply that supports 12V output and has a usb female plug should work fine. I have the Goobay NTS 1500 MW in my amazon wishlist (in Germany) and only wait for an occasion to order. But check on it before buying or wait until someone comes and confirms this. I'm sorry that I can't give you a link...
Excluding the DIY charging stuff we have posted around here, or cooking up sth able to do the job, I don't think you're going to be able to find anything. Maybe eBay or shopping.google.com at best, might have sth cheaper.
Last time I was in Fry's and saw the price, I was happy mine has had the easy life.
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I was at Costco the other day and saw a bundle for a surge protector that included one that goes flat against the wall, but it also had 2 USB charging ports. Not sure what the voltage would be...hmmm...maybe I should go check it out, that is if you don't do it and report back before me......it was only like $15.
The TF101 uses the extra pins associated with USB 3.0, so any cable you use should be 3.0 not 2.0.
Yes, that's true. But I believe this is only important if one wants to use an extension cable to extend the length of the original cable. If you use the original cable and plug it directly into a USB-port it shouldn't matter whether it is USB 2 or 3 as long as it supplys 12V DC
SuLuke said:
Yes, that's true. But I believe this is only important if one wants to use an extension cable to extend the length of the original cable. If you use the original cable and plug it directly into a USB-port it shouldn't matter whether it is USB 2 or 3 as long as it supplys 12V DC
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Wouldnt the charger port be missing some of the pins (potentially)
Well, I originally read about using foreign chargers with the TF on transformer forums and just looked for the source again. Since I am not yet allowed to post links, I'll just give you the quote:
Something like this will work: Dynex™ - Universal AC/DC Charger for Cameras and Camcorders - DX-UA Not sure if you are near a Best Buy. It has to output 11 V minimum and have a USB connector. Folks over at xda-developers have confirmed this is a substitute and will work.
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Funny that this is now includes a reference to XDA again

Charging cord?

Is this thing a joke? It's barely 3 ft long. How the hell are we supposed to use this effectively and safely without it falling on the floor plugged in and crack the screen? It barely reaches my bedside table.
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Buy another charger? I use the blackberry playback charger personally long cable fast charging and pretty cheap to buy.
Adjust accordingly. Just know that if u do replace the cable or use another charger, the charging rate won't be as fast. See https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/oneplus-one-charging-cable-alternative.68517/
But I completely agree, it should have been longer. I just adjusted accordingly and all is good now, the cable should have been at least 6 ft.
zephiK said:
Adjust accordingly. Just know that if u do replace the cable or use another charger, the charging rate won't be as fast. See https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/oneplus-one-charging-cable-alternative.68517/
But I completely agree, it should have been longer. I just adjusted accordingly and all is good now, the cable should have been at least 6 ft.
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Yeah I've noticed with other chargers it takes forever to charge. Are there any longer cords out there that are a higher rate of charge?
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Krunk83 said:
Yeah I've noticed with other chargers it takes forever to charge. Are there any longer cords out there that are a higher rate of charge?
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I have no idea about that, maybe someone else can provide input on that. I do love the fast charging rate on the phone though, I'll even pay OnePlus $5-10 to have a larger usb cable with their special battery juice.
zephiK said:
I have no idea about that, maybe someone else can provide input on that. I do love the fast charging rate on the phone though, I'll even pay OnePlus $5-10 to have a larger usb cable with their special battery juice.
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I'm pretty sure it's high speed usb cord. I used my old nexus charger and it charged about 10% in an hour. Brutal.
Krunk83 said:
I'm pretty sure it's high speed usb cord. I used my old nexus charger and it charged about 10% in an hour. Brutal.
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Yup I know how you felt.. I used the blackberry folding charging for my N5 and it charged super quick and the cable is super long.
The blackberry folding charger was 1.8A.
I thoroughly recommend the blackberry charger. It has to be this one:
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/301241170713?nav=SEARCH
Should be able to grab it from your location too. A lot of sellers sell this particular charger. It's got a 6ft cable and charges quickly. I've replaced all my chargers with this one and it works a treat.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_n...ng charger&sprefix=blackberry+folding+cha,aps looks like they became more expensive, I paid $5 for 2 back when I bought them.
I got some off monoprice for $7.
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Glad I found this thread. I never even took the stock charger and able out of the box yet. I have a generic usb cable plugged into my iPad charger. It took almost 8 hours to go from 3% to around 80%. I think I am gonna start using the included charger now.
jimmyhauser said:
Glad I found this thread. I never even took the stock charger and able out of the box yet. I have a generic usb cable plugged into my iPad charger. It took almost 8 hours to go from 3% to around 80%. I think I am gonna start using the included charger now.
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If you're looking for a longer alternative, this one will charge at the same rate as the original cable.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...189234&cm_re=22awg_usb-_-12-189-234-_-Product
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can you place the original cord to a usb port in a laptop? the connection looks odd, and at first i thought it was missing something... it is just a stick but looks alot like a normal usb...
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enigma_x said:
can you place the original cord to a usb port in a laptop? the connection looks odd, and at first i thought it was missing something... it is just a stick but looks alot like a normal usb...
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Yes you can. It's the same cord that youd get from any the phone. It does look strange, but it is a USB port.
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The 2amp chargers from Samsung charge at the same rate. You can get them from amazon along with a long charging cable for under $10.
timmaaa said:
If you're looking for a longer alternative, this one will charge at the same rate as the original cable.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...189234&cm_re=22awg_usb-_-12-189-234-_-Product
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Thanks. I did order this cable. It doesn't charge quite as fast the oem cable. I get ~1100 mA with the oem cable, and ~800 mA with this one. But it's still much better than the ~200mA I was getting with all the other generic usb cables I had.
jimmyhauser said:
Thanks. I did order this cable. It doesn't charge quite as fast the oem cable. I get ~1100 mA with the oem cable, and ~800 mA with this one. But it's still much better than the ~200mA I was getting with all the other generic usb cables I had.
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What did you use to measure mA?
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I ordered these and they are pretty fast.
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=112&cp_id=11212&cs_id=1085102&p_id=10273&seq=1&format=2
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=8641&seq=1&format=2
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What did you use to measure mA?
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Galaxy charger
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jimmyhauser said:
Galaxy charger
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.abmantis.galaxychargingcurrent.free for those who are interested.
Thanks will be comparing the different cables etc to produce the best result.

One Plus USB C flat cables

https://oneplus.net/type-c-cable Not a horrible price for the 150 cm at $6.99 I grabbed three myself.
fatboypup said:
https://oneplus.net/type-c-cable Not a horrible price for the 150 cm at $6.99 I grabbed three myself.
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Interesting deal those are quite the color
I hope they support fast charging. I bought 2 150cm and 1 100cm cables
Pilz said:
I hope they support fast charging. I bought 2 150cm and 1 100cm cables
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If you look at the USB-C pinout, I really doubt these support fast charging. These only have 4 pins for the USB 2.0 interface, I believe the 5W @ 3A is only possible via the cable bus power and ground since that delivery is unique to USB Type-C.
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If you look at the USB-C pinout, I really doubt these support fast charging. These only have 4 pins for the USB 2.0 interface, I believe the 5W @ 3A is only possible via the cable bus power and ground since that delivery is unique to USB Type-C.
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So you're saying it needs to be Type-C to Type-C for fast charging?
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I hope they support fast charging. I bought 2 150cm and 1 100cm cables
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It maxes out at 2A, and fast charge for the 6P is at 3A. It'll be charging at 2/3 the speed of fast charging.
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So you're saying it needs to be Type-C to Type-C for fast charging?
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AFAIK, that is true. I'm not electrical engineer though, only took the intro class to that major in freshman year...
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It maxes out at 2A, and fast charge for the 6P is at 3A. It'll be charging at 2/3 the speed of fast charging.
AFAIK, that is true. I'm not electrical engineer though, only took the intro class to that major in freshman year...
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I took an EE type course too but we never learned about pin set ups for cables lol. 2A is still good enough when I need a cable on he go
how much is shipping from OP?
Probably going to cancel my order then. I need the fast charging. Guess that means I need a new brick too then eh?
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Actually, it says in the product description that it delivers up to 2amps. Oops. Hope they get my ticket.
cm? This is 'Murica. Land of the free and home to the Google. How many inches/feet?
Although it may not matter much given a phone is obsolete in a year or two, I suspect charging at 2/3 or less would greatly extend battery life.
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cm? This is 'Murica. Land of the free and home to the Google. How many inches/feet?
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Let me Google that...
About 5' cable.
rufflez2010 said:
Let me Google that...
About 5' cable.
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Thank you I just read it is only 2A though. But thanks again. I was tired of Googling metric measurements. When will the rest of the world catch up and start using the empirical system?
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Thank you I just read it is only 2A though. But thanks again. I was tired of Googling metric measurements. When will the rest of the world catch up and start using the empirical system?
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. The world isn't ready for it. They need things to be base-10 for it to make sense.
I've ordered two of these, one of each size regardless of fast charge capabilities. I have so many regular USB-A chargers dotted all over the place that I might as well keep them useful. Plus the One Plus cables have a really good quality track record among their fans.
Also I tend to carry an extra cable with me with no charger for use in unexpected circumstances, and USB A ports are of course the most common available in a pinch. Simply practical to have extra C to A cables.
I might invest in an additional fast charger beyond what is supplied, once we have complete and precise clarification on how to maximize the 6P fast charging.
Awesome cables, I bought 5 because they're better than the offerings on Amazon while being easier to plug in, and perfectly compatible with my Macbook.
Mine came today
Definitely feels like quality cable
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Definitely feels like quality cable
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Did you order directly from OP?
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Did you order directly from OP?
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Yes

USB C Cables

Figured we could help each other with links.... I've looked and looked and found very few.
I'll try to keep the op updated with subsequent links.
Note: this is ONLY for true type C cables (both ends)
Anker- $10. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0119OI9XU/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_apInwbS1XSHX0
For Canadians, this is the best deal.
http://m.ebay.ca/itm/221887432883?_mwBanner=1
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i bought this in canada. extra couple bux and prime so id be here in a couple days.
http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B012A5RRIA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
I just found this on Amazon after searching for days for a 10ft / 3m cable.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0144FGUEQ
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This is another 10ft / 3m cable from Aukey, but quite a bit more expensive:
http://www.amazon.com/Cable-Aukey-Extra-Charging-MacBook/dp/B0168IJBWA/
Any good Type A to Type C cables? - for using with my car's USB ports or my PC's USB ports
or
Type B to Type C adapters? - for using with my old microUSB cables
Type A to C, you can get a pretty cheap and good looking 4 pack of the ORZLY ones, I posted some pics of them a couple of weeks ago.
RED ZMAN said:
Type A to C, you can get a pretty cheap and good looking 4 pack of the ORZLY ones, I posted some pics of them a couple of weeks ago.
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Careful with them. Have you seen this review?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/cdp/member...age=1&sort_by=MostRecentReview#R1189CCK1UXGT5
No, that was posted well after I bought and received them.
Hmm, perhaps it is time to see if I can return them. Still have the original packaging.
With all these high power requirements I think we need to be careful what we buy. We know certain parts of the world will cut corners to make a quick buck at the expense of frying our hardware.
I'll stay with the cables that come in the box for now, until we have more choices, though I'm hurting for a cable for the car.
sirxdroid said:
With all these high power requirements I think we need to be careful what we buy. We know certain parts of the world will cut corners to make a quick buck at the expense of frying our hardware.
I'll stay with the cables that come in the box for now, until we have more choices, though I'm hurting for a cable for the car.
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+1
Aside from my OnePlus cables, I'm not messing with these no name brands on eBay and Amazon trying to make a quick buck.
sirxdroid said:
With all these high power requirements I think we need to be careful what we buy. We know certain parts of the world will cut corners to make a quick buck at the expense of frying our hardware.
I'll stay with the cables that come in the box for now, until we have more choices, though I'm hurting for a cable for the car.
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I've tried compiling and researching as much info on the topic as I could. http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/usb-type-c-vs-usb-3-0-3-1-vs-usb-2-0-t3221676
Hope it helps, and if I left anything out, let me know.
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I've tried compiling and researching as much info on the topic as I could. http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/usb-type-c-vs-usb-3-0-3-1-vs-usb-2-0-t3221676
Hope it helps, and if I left anything out, let me know.
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Absolutely! Thank you for putting all the work into it. Very much appreciated.
Was able to get my ORZLY 4 pack cables refunded given the recent USB C specification complaince concerns(they are currently shipped; hopefully i still get them? lol)
For Canadian buyers, found this:
Fanshop® USB-C USB 3.1 Type C Male to 3.0 Type A Male Data Fast Charge Charging Cable
on Amazon.ca $4.29 with free shipping
-Sorry cant post links yet: Product ID B016ZTAOG4
Quite enticing. Not sure how much I trust them. Will probably wait until more get released.
Jraphe said:
Fanshop® USB-C USB 3.1 Type C Male to 3.0 Type A Male Data Fast Charge Charging Cable
on Amazon.ca $4.29 with free shipping
-Sorry cant post links yet: Product ID B016ZTAOG4
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Those connectors look bulky. Could be problematic with a case on the phone.
Jraphe said:
Was able to get my ORZLY 4 pack cables refunded given the recent USB C specification complaince concerns(they are currently shipped; hopefully i still get them? lol)
For Canadian buyers, found this:
Fanshop® USB-C USB 3.1 Type C Male to 3.0 Type A Male Data Fast Charge Charging Cable
on Amazon.ca $4.29 with free shipping
-Sorry cant post links yet: Product ID B016ZTAOG4
Quite enticing. Not sure how much I trust them. Will probably wait until more get released.
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tempted. I need cables and adaptors like yesterday lol.
Please post if you find anything good for the car. Either a new type C charger and type C at both ends cable or a type C to type A cable that works well and doesn't fry anything. I have a Scosche 2.4A type A charger in the car which I think should be good enough provided I can find a good cable.
sirxdroid said:
Please post if you find anything good for the car. Either a new type C charger and type C at both ends cable or a type C to type A cable that works well and doesn't fry anything. I have a Scosche 2.4A type A charger in the car which I think should be good enough provided I can find a good cable.
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Look for a cable that states USB 2.0 and 2.4A charging. At least those will work with the car charger you have without frying it. I think I saw one by iOrange on Amazon.
Found it: http://amzn.com/B010VFFSL4
Read the review on that one too. =)
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Look for a cable that states USB 2.0 and 2.4A charging. At least those will work with the car charger you have without frying it. I think I saw one by iOrange on Amazon.
Found it: http://amzn.com/B010VFFSL4
Read the review on that one too. =)
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Thanks! Does USB 2.0 really matter in this case if all I'm using it for is charging? I doubt these car chargers have any smarts in them to negotiate anything on the data pins, but maybe I'm wrong. I used charge only cables (from PortaPow) in the past with great success and from what I understand they only have 2 wires inside for the power pins.
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Thanks! Does USB 2.0 really matter in this case if all I'm using it for is charging? I doubt these car chargers have any smarts in them to negotiate anything on the data pins, but maybe I'm wrong. I used charge only cables (from PortaPow) in the past with great success and from what I understand they only have 2 wires inside for the power pins.
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Yes. As I understand it: The phone checks the cable and sees the 56kΩ pullup (resistor) built in the wire, so it uses the USB BC2.1 protocol over the Type-C USB 2.0 pins/wires to negotiate for the 2.4A charging. I pretty sure that's the process anyway.
To simplify it: The phone checks the cable for what kind of cable it is. It sees the resistor saying it's a legacy usb cable. It then negotiates w/ the charger using legacy usb charging specs to get the appropriate current.
I emailed PortaPow and they said they would have their *charge only* cables in 4-6 weeks. Both C to C and A to C. I pointed them to the Google engineer's reviews to make sure their cables are compliant and also asked them to put a slim USB C connector on them so that it fits through cases. LOL. We'll see what they come up with.
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Elnrik said:
Yes. As I understand it: The phone checks the cable and sees the 56kΩ pullup (resistor) built in the wire, so it uses the USB BC2.1 protocol over the Type-C USB 2.0 pins/wires to negotiate for the 2.4A charging. I pretty sure that's the process anyway.
To simplify it: The phone checks the cable for what kind of cable it is. It sees the resistor saying it's a legacy usb cable. It then negotiates w/ the charger using legacy usb charging specs to get the appropriate current.
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Thanks! Makes sense. I just hope it's enough to still add some charge to the battery while the phone is on running GPS/Waze and streaming music via Bluetooth. I faced a problem with my old N5 where the battery was going down while plugged in in the car, turns out the cable I was using (and thought to be of high quality OEM) could only deliver 600mA and the phone was using a bit over 800mA.
If an A to C cable can at least maintain the phone charge with the screen on, I'm OK for now until better solutions come along.

USB Type C cables reviewed by Google engineer

Google product engineer +BensonLeung has tested several cables, and the vast majority of them fail to meet the Type C specification, some even dangerously drawing too much power.
Interesting to note that the hugely popular Orzly cables fail his tests.
can't even trust the word "certified by **** company" on the products anymore. that's why you just can't ignore product reviewers.
Haha, I was just coming to post this myself. Its good we have people looking out for this sort of thing. Stuff like this always pops up in the early phases of new tech or standard roll outs. Remember all the faulty knock off lightning cables for apple stuff when that first launched?
Potentially bad news for those of us with the One+ cables though;
+Rajesh Handa , +Guille Laca, +Jared Valles, +Steven Lefkoff, unfortunately I have bad news about the One+ cables. The One+ cables, despite ostensibly being from a 1st party phone maker, are out of spec. They use an incorrect 3A configuration as well.
I haven't reviewed them on Amazon because they aren't for sale there directly from One+
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Potentially bad news for those of us with the One+ cables though;
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Yes, this is incredibly annoying. I have recently bought two of them, specifically because I didn't want to buy from some random Amazon seller.
I've just emailed One+'s customer service to get their comment on it, and request a full refund.
krs360 said:
Yes, this is incredibly annoying. I have recently bought two of them, specifically because I didn't want to buy from some random Amazon seller.
I've just emailed One+'s customer service to get their comment on it, and request a full refund.
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Let me know how that goes, I may do the same.
It sucks he has not recommended any chargers or USB-C to USB-C cables. The only cables he has reviewed are USB A to USB-C and it is my understanding that these will not quick charge the device anyhow.
I have started a Google Sheet to track USB Type C cables and accessories. I have also enhanced to include N5X and N6P products. Check it out!
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It sucks he has not recommended any chargers or USB-C to USB-C cables. The only cables he has reviewed are USB A to USB-C and it is my understanding that these will not quick charge the device anyhow.
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I'm using the Google one that came with my phone right now plugged in to my USB 3.0 port on my PC, and it says "Charging Rapidly".
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I'm using the Google one that came with my phone right now plugged in to my USB 3.0 port on my PC, and it says "Charging Rapidly".
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Not to change gears but I topped my 6p off yesterday before first boot up and let it and my htc m8 both drain completely, them plugged 6p to packaged charger and my m8 to a nexus 6 fast charger and a 6-ft micro usb I bought fro at&t and the m8 charged... Much... Faster. Are Google's fast charging claims unfounded or is the N6 charger from Motorola just that fast?
Might repost this in q&a aub, but was wondering how your experience hs been thusfar.
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pokedroid said:
Not to change gears but I topped my 6p off yesterday before first boot up and let it and my htc m8 both drain completely, them plugged 6p to packaged charger and my m8 to a nexus 6 fast charger and a 6-ft micro usb I bought fro at&t and the m8 charged... Much... Faster. Are Google's fast charging claims unfounded or is the N6 charger from Motorola just that fast?
Might repost this in q&a aub, but was wondering how your experience hs been thusfar.
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Remember that the M8 has a 2,600 mAh battery and the 6P has a 3,450 mAh battery. The 6P battery is almost 35% larger than the M8, and will require more time to charge. How much charge did the 6P have when the M8 finished charging?
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krs360 said:
Yes, this is incredibly annoying. I have recently bought two of them, specifically because I didn't want to buy from some random Amazon seller.
I've just emailed One+'s customer service to get their comment on it, and request a full refund.
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RED ZMAN said:
Let me know how that goes, I may do the same.
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Ditto. I bought 3 and I might keep them for slow charging, like overnight. The price wasn't bad.
That's is a very fair point and good question. If I'm not mistaken between 65-75%. Nothing crazy, but one thing I will say, I play a game that drains the battery very badly, even after I close and even force close the app (love it so much I am willing to live with it) but I drained it all the way back down this morning playing the game and instead of turning it back on and starting the charge from 1% and leaving it on so I can track its progress (after a restart, the game normally doesn't cause any battery drain until I open it again), I left it off to charge, and I came back less than 40 minutes later and the thing was full.. I couldn't believe it so I turned it on and unplugged it and sure enough, 98%. It could be that the game was causing such drain (which is scary because the it never eats battery after a reboot) that it slowed the charging process, but I guess I'll never know for sure.
krs360 said:
Yes, this is incredibly annoying. I have recently bought two of them, specifically because I didn't want to buy from some random Amazon seller.
I've just emailed One+'s customer service to get their comment on it, and request a full refund.
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Let me know how that goes, I may do the same.
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I emailed them as well to cancel my order and refund me in full. Waiting on a response.
should we still have to worry about even if we use a basic charger (5v - 2a) to charge our 6P with those generic cables? seems like the google engineer only tested and raised concerned with rapid charging. this might get too far once wireless charging stickers/cases are introduced.
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should we still have to worry about even if we use a basic charger (5v - 2a) to charge our 6P with those generic cables? seems like the google engineer only tested and raised concerned with rapid charging. this might get too far once wireless charging stickers/cases are introduced.
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Based on the text in his reviews, it sounds like the risk of damage is to your charger, not your phone. The phone can (obviously) handle a 3A charging speed but a USB A charger most likely cannot.
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Ditto. I bought 3 and I might keep them for slow charging, like overnight. The price wasn't bad.
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I was thinking the same thing. I bought 2 sets, just keep them around for data transfer and such as most of my stuff will be attached to google official chargers Type C to Type C. May as well, they are beautiful.
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should we still have to worry about even if we use a basic charger (5v - 2a) to charge our 6P with those generic cables?
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That's all I want to know: can I use these "sketchy" cables with an old Motorola charger that's 5V/1A. I have a bunch of these chargers in various places, and I would just like to have the option to top off. Not to mention my car charger.
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should we still have to worry about even if we use a basic charger (5v - 2a) to charge our 6P with those generic cables? seems like the google engineer only tested and raised concerned with rapid charging. this might get too far once wireless charging stickers/cases are introduced.
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Eh I personally wont run the risk of ruining my $500 smartphone by skimping out on $10 for a nicer cable.
Any adapter advice?
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Google product engineer +BensonLeung has tested several cables, and the vast majority of them fail to meet the Type C specification, some even dangerously drawing too much power.
Interesting to note that the hugely popular Orzly cables fail his tests.
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Hey everyone! As you all know im always doing reviews on loads of products and have reviewed these cables with the OnePlus 2! Obviously they work perfectly for that as they were built for the OnePlus 2 originally. I did contact them though and they did let me know that as soon as it was brought to there attention they corrected the issue and i actually received the new version of the cable today and i will review it and have the video up tomorrow! For everyone using a OnePlus 2 its nothing to worry about though. The only items that it could affect are things that power at 3A so just keep that in mind before you go throwing out your cables!
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The only items that it could affect are things that power at 3A so just keep that in mind before you go throwing out your cables!
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