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Hi guys, before I update to nougat and sacrifice my xposed modules, can you guys share your thoughts/experience about this new update? Is there a big improvement on battery life or performance? Problems?
Sorry, I don't want to risk going back to 6.0.1 and brick my device, but this will help some like me. Thanks guys!
Hi, I noticed a real improvement with performances compared to 4.4, it's really really smooth, no bugs, no lags, no crashs
Battery is a bit better but slower to charge.
And gaming is better too, I was with an OC Kernel and now with stock 5.0 it's better.
Nougat on shield is a real improvement for me. But you should wait recovery image for a clean installation.
I dont see any advanteges of nougat. Nothing really change
There's a bit of a performance increase, but I've noticed some strange bugs...It takes much longer to charge my tablet, and there's quite a few wakelocks...Even the screen comes on by itself (This is after a complete wipe after upgrading, then having Google download the same apps I had before the upgrade).. Cant place my finger on the issue, but its a bit disappointing so far. Might wipe and start over or wait for an optimized stock from one of our nice devs here at XDA.
What an dissapointment on nougat
I tought it also great to apdate it.. Some of a cool fetures they offers.. But afyer i update my tablet.. My tablet becomes laggy and he also heating like crazy.. And some apps may not opened.. And if he's too laggy i just reboot my tablet on/off then it quite okay.. After several apps you opened ...and here we go again.. Damn.. I just wish i could turn back my 6.1 update again.. How will i fix this ??
Performance in gaming is very good, but in overall use tablet became laggy. Nvidia is going to relase patch for 5.0 update so i hope they fix the bugs.
I dont beleive what a **** nvidia give to us. Laggy. During playing a game i cant listening to a radio. Im very, very dissapointed.
My home and recent buttons as well as notification all disappeared after the update. Could anyone suggest how I may solve this problem?
I googled around and that seems a common problem after upgrading android, and the solution is to use adb. But my adb cannot see my tablet
and I could not find a way to turn on developer's mode .... (tapping Build Number does not work...)
Thanks a lot!!
I'm seeing significant improvement in performance. It's faster opening apps, going back to home screen, app drawer, etc.
For those with laggy performance (versus MM) or other bugs, you may need to factory reset (or recovery image clean install, as another mentioned). Its fairly common on any Android device, that migrating data doesn't play well with OTA updates. I know it sucks to have to reset. But that is one of the facts of life of Android.
smokinjoe2122 said:
There's a bit of a performance increase, but I've noticed some strange bugs...It takes much longer to charge my tablet, and there's quite a few wakelocks...Even the screen comes on by itself (This is after a complete wipe after upgrading, then having Google download the same apps I had before the upgrade).. Cant place my finger on the issue, but its a bit disappointing so far. Might wipe and start over or wait for an optimized stock from one of our nice devs here at XDA.
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What Kind of charger are you using? I noticed mine doesn't seem to want to charge at all. It sat for a while powered off on my charger and didn't want to power on it would say the battery was too low. Even when I was able to get it to boot up it would power off before android came up and go back to the powered off battery charging state. I was able to finally get it to recovery mode and that is showing the battery is charging its up to 5% after a few minutes. I'm using a Samsung fast charger rated at 5V 2.0 Amp or 9V 1.67 Amp.
you are right. For me wipe cache was enough i think. I will watch out.
MY OBSERVATIONS
My System and Methods:
0. Original Shield Tablet US-LTE, TWRP 3.0.3 by BitObsession, Unrooted, Pretty much stock
1. Flashed Full image of US-WIFI 4.4 version EXCEPT USERDATA (so that everything remains the same way). After reboot, I have observed that some apps just crashes so i figure these apps had problems during the firmware change (from US LTE tpo US WIFI). so i had them all uninstalled, and re-installed.
2. Allowed OTA for WIFI 5.0 to pop-up, downloaded
3. (VERY IMPORTANT) Made sure that everything that google play has to update were all updated
4. Installed WIFI 5.0 OTA
5. Very smooth installation - NO getting stuck at Nvidia Logo for a long time (as reported by most people...could be because they were rooted?)
6. Initially, occasional lagging occurred, so i think this is cache issue. since i feel like my recovery had been overwritten to stock, i reboot the tablet. then, in the software update menu in settings, i also cleared cache. then i rebooted again., just to make sure.
7. generally, the tablet feels smoother, im enjoying split screen. sometimes, it lags.
8. NO ISSUE with charging. same as usual whether the tablet is idle or im playing casual to heavy games
9. SD card write performance is the same
10. Antutu and Geekbench numbers improved
NEXT EXPERIMENT:
flash ROW LTE 5.0 update and flash TWRP 3.3.0 so i can clear cache WILL NOT ROOT hehe
My K1 is stock. After the OTA update, I had some performance issues and issues with the Google Play Store. The issues with the Play Store went away after I got a notification that Google Play Services needed to be updated. I wound up doing a factory reset yesterday for the performance issues, and so far the tablet is running much better.
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Battery issue
Before the update I had dramatic performance issues on wake up. They went nearly away with the nougat update.
But unfortunately I experience the battery issue described here:
https://forums.geforce.com/default/...arge-battery-drain-after-android-7-0-update-/
Very slow charging. Never charges up to 100% - stops between 50% and 75%.
cybergen_78 said:
Before the update I had dramatic performance issues on wake up. They went nearly away with the nougat update.
But unfortunately I experience the battery issue described here:
https://forums.geforce.com/default/...arge-battery-drain-after-android-7-0-update-/
Very slow charging. Never charges up to 100% - stops between 50% and 75%.
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The only thing that helps is a factory reset. Sometimes the battery calibration gets borked - especially with a major os upgrade. I did a factory reset before the Nougat update and everything works great.
General OS performance seemed slightly better, but at a cost of higher battery drain and extremely slow charging speed. I unlocked my bootloader and rolled back to Android 6 (update 1.5).
My two cents:
Other than the horrible noise emitting from the speaker's while charging and a new inability to keep a stable wifi connection; I like it OK.
I use it for native gaming and movies. I rooted nougat and that's it. Honestly dont see a huge improvement over the last OS, maybe a tiny bit smoother.
NVIDIA still won't let you control your own power settings, offering their lame performance/power feature again . Hate it.
Battery standby time seems improved, as does the battery life while watching native movies with Dolby Atmos activated
Boot up time seems longer, and it also uses roughly half your RAM or more to operate the OS.
I can't stand the charging noise, so I am most likey going to downgrade.
Also, when you close the lid on the screen while watching a movie, (it turns off) but it now will turn back on and play if you plug or unplug the charger while the lid is closed. REALLY annoying. And often embarrassing.
I wouldn't recommend the update. i just reset my Tablet back to 5.1.1 because it became so slow that it was unusable. Constantly freezing after the downgraded to 5.1.1 and it runs as smooth as the first day.
***SIDE NOTE***
When i upgraded to 7.0 i lost 5gh wifi networks. Since downgrading they are back just a little note.
Guys,
I haven't updated my H8 to Nougat because of the bugs with EMUI5.
Are the issues fixed? Are there still issues? Is so what are they?
Can somebody provide a honest opinion. Because the current EMUI4.1 is so good and i don't want to regret the upgrade. Thanks.
Emui 5 is far better than emui 4.1,but the battery backup is soon good in emui4.1
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I heard there was a gyroscope issue. And what about performance and battery. Is there slowness in overall user experience?
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I heard there was a gyroscope issue. And what about performance and battery. Is there slowness in overall user experience?
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All are good
If you're a heavy user and value battery efficiency more than having the latest Android firmware, then don't upgrade. I went back to EMUI4. 1 a week ago due to excessive battery drainage in EMUI5.
I used Nougat since it became available for the H8 and battery life was less than in MM and even worst with the latest update for the US version (B385). My screen on time went from 6 hours to barely 4 hours.
Also having to recharge my phone 3 to 4 times in a day was not worth it staying with EMUI5. I even rebranded my phone to use the L19's firmware (B389) but it was the same story with the battery in addition to loosing VoLTE and band 12.
But don't get me wrong, I do like the interface updates and the improvements in performance in Nougat. It's just that for me battery is more important.
Zero issues in B389, battery a tad better the MM versions. Never charge device more than 1x/day, sometimes 1x/1.5 day.
Dominikrod said:
If you're a heavy user and value battery efficiency more than having the latest Android firmware, then don't upgrade. I went back to EMUI4. 1 a week ago due to excessive battery drainage in EMUI5.
I used Nougat since it became available for the H8 and battery life was less than in MM and even worst with the latest update for the US version (B385). My screen on time went from 6 hours to barely 4 hours.
Also having to recharge my phone 3 to 4 times in a day was not worth it staying with EMUI5. I even rebranded my phone to use the L19's firmware (B389) but it was the same story with the battery in addition to loosing VoLTE and band 12.
But don't get me wrong, I do like the interface updates and the improvements in performance in Nougat. It's just that for me battery is more important.
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Thanks. Mine is Indian version. I'm a heavy user and battery life does matter to me. I was so tempted to press the update button but pulling myself out of it. I already get only 4.5 to 5 hours on heavy usage. So will skip the upgrade then. Thanks again!
Rommco05 said:
Performance is higher how on Marshmallow and with battery I don't have any problems, this can be related which model you have and which firmware you are able to install. Gyroscope issue... I don't know
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Mine is Indian version
bala1701 said:
Thanks. Mine is Indian version. I'm a heavy user and battery life does matter to me. I was so tempted to press the update button but pulling myself out of it. I already get only 4.5 to 5 hours on heavy usage. So will skip the upgrade then. Thanks again!
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Bro b330 update i got 6hr+
venugopalu007 said:
Bro b330 update i got 6hr+
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You mean nougat update for FRDL02 has no battery issues? But at top of this thread you also mentioned this :
"Emui 5 is far better than emui 4.1,but the battery backup is soon good in EMUI4.1"
Im confused..
bala1701 said:
Thanks. Mine is Indian version. I'm a heavy user and battery life does matter to me. I was so tempted to press the update button but pulling myself out of it. I already get only 4.5 to 5 hours on heavy usage. So will skip the upgrade then. Thanks again!
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Use i am also saying that emui 4.1 sucks less compared to 5.0 . Emui 4.1 is the best for battery but we want the new version of Android should have to leave the old one
Also in emui 5.0:
In lockscreen clean up disable apps to run in back ground . U can also get 6+
Rommco05 said:
Anyway if compare look betwen EMUI4 and EMUI5, emui5 is much better, looks a bit more stable and fast. Google security patches is newest how on emui4 and in future if want upgrade to Andoid O (hopefuly we got it) u will must anyway upgrade first to emui5 Nougat. Emui5 have lot of settings which can help improve battery life
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I can't get security patches on MM Emui 4 unless I upgrade and that's sad. But the performance with EMUI 4 on H8 is truly amazing. I have never had a single instance of lag or slowness in the two months I have had this. Truly flagship device. Buttery smooth and I'm thoroughly enjpyong this beauty. I'm afraid this will not be the case once I upgrade. So let me stay with this till we get the news on Android O.
bala1701 said:
Guys,
I haven't updated my H8 to Nougat because of the bugs with EMUI5.
Are the issues fixed? Are there still issues? Is so what are they?
Can somebody provide a honest opinion. Because the current EMUI4.1 is so good and i don't want to regret the upgrade. Thanks.
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There are still some minor bugs, which you will never notice (maybe). But I would like to say its 96% stable. :fingers-crossed:
bala1701 said:
Guys,
I haven't updated my H8 to Nougat because of the bugs with EMUI5.
Are the issues fixed? ...
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Personally, I wouldn't touch the EMUI 5 and Android 7 combination.
I did the upgrade long time ago (I think it was B360, and it was done automatically; I just had to touch a button that said "Upgrade", and kept prompting me for two weeks).
Battery had to be recharged every 2 hours, even without using the phone. Temperature was so hot that I had to put the phone in the refrigerator, honestly.
Many essential application were totally messed up or became useless, including the camera software.
Following a Huawie customer service rep in live communication to go back to EMUI 4.1 and Android 6 resulted in bricking the phone.
I sent it to their service center in Texas (per their instructions).
They found that the excessive heat had caused plenty of internal component deterioration, so it was useless to unbrick it and send it back.
Since it was still under warranty, they sent me a new one (with EMUI 4.1 and Android 6).
Service was fast and excellent.
I became a happy camper again.
EMUI 5 is most likely better than 4.1, but the problem of installing it is that you must install Android 7 as well.
I'm sure Android 7 is better and more advanced than 6, but it is not optimized for the Honor 8.
I would NOT touch that combination of EMUI 5 and Android 7 on the Honor 8 with a 100 foot pole!!
From what I understand, EMUI 5.1 is released.
That is my experience, and it is up to you if you decide to upgrade.
Cool_Man99 said:
Personally, I wouldn't touch the EMUI 5 and Android 7 combination.
I did the upgrade long time ago (I think it was B360, and it was done automatically; I just had to touch a button that said "Upgrade", and kept prompting me for two weeks).
Battery had to be recharged every 2 hours, even without using the phone. Temperature was so hot that I had to put the phone in the refrigerator, honestly.
Many essential application were totally messed up or became useless, including the camera software.
Following a Huawie customer service rep in live communication to go back to EMUI 4.1 and Android 6 resulted in bricking the phone.
I sent it to their service center in Texas (per their instructions).
They found that the excessive heat had caused plenty of internal component deterioration, so it was useless to unbrick it and send it back.
Since it was still under warranty, they sent me a new one (with EMUI 4.1 and Android 6).
Service was fast and excellent.
I became a happy camper again.
EMUI 5 is most likely better than 4.1, but the problem of installing it is that you must install Android 7 as well.
I'm sure Android 7 is better and more advanced than 6, but it is not optimized for the Honor 8.
I would NOT touch that combination of EMUI 5 and Android 7 on the Honor 8 with a 100 foot pole!!
From what I understand, EMUI 5.1 is released.
That is my experience, and it is up to you if you decide to upgrade.
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Thanks. I have made up my mind to stay with EMUI4.1 based on the inputs on this thread and yours add up to the list. When it comes to Android I always believe a phone works best only out of the box and any upgrade takes it a step back. I have had this experience with a lot of devices. So i think it's best to stay with the version that comes out of the box if you want to really enjoy the device. Because this is the version that was tested/ optimized/advertised by the manufacturer. Just my opinion... :good:
Cool_Man99 said:
Personally, I wouldn't touch the EMUI 5 and Android 7 combination.
I did the upgrade long time ago (I think it was B360, and it was done automatically; I just had to touch a button that said "Upgrade", and kept prompting me for two weeks).
Battery had to be recharged every 2 hours, even without using the phone. Temperature was so hot that I had to put the phone in the refrigerator, honestly.
Many essential application were totally messed up or became useless, including the camera software.
Following a Huawie customer service rep in live communication to go back to EMUI 4.1 and Android 6 resulted in bricking the phone.
I sent it to their service center in Texas (per their instructions).
They found that the excessive heat had caused plenty of internal component deterioration, so it was useless to unbrick it and send it back.
Since it was still under warranty, they sent me a new one (with EMUI 4.1 and Android 6).
Service was fast and excellent.
I became a happy camper again.
EMUI 5 is most likely better than 4.1, but the problem of installing it is that you must install Android 7 as well.
I'm sure Android 7 is better and more advanced than 6, but it is not optimized for the Honor 8.
I would NOT touch that combination of EMUI 5 and Android 7 on the Honor 8 with a 100 foot pole!!
From what I understand, EMUI 5.1 is released.
That is my experience, and it is up to you if you decide to upgrade.
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bala1701 said:
Thanks. I have made up my mind to stay with EMUI4.1 based on the inputs on this thread and yours add up to the list. When it comes to Android I always believe a phone works best only out of the box and any upgrade takes it a step back. I have had this experience with a lot of devices. So i think it's best to stay with the version that comes out of the box if you want to really enjoy the device. Because this is the version that was tested/ optimized/advertised by the manufacturer. Just my opinion... :good:
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Maybe it happened with just you. You cannot blame EMUI for the trouble. Yeah I admit that it had some bugs at the beginning. Almost all the Android Phones get them at the beginning, even iOS. An year or two ago I had Galaxy Grand Prime and it didn't boot up after it's lollipop/marshmallow update. So I sent it to Samsung and they fixed it. @Cool_Man99 same as they fixed yours. And it's totally functional even today. Well my mom is using that now. And yeah maybe you faced the problem with your device unnecessary heating, so did I. My device also used to get hot while listening to music at night or maybe while i am in school. Also i was not able to install any 3rd party apps in it. As much as I remember they released some patches and I swear now there are no issues that I am facing. Ooh yeah, I never had the battery draining issue, ever. You can ask other people on the forum too if all of them faced issues like you. ?
@bala1701 maybe you did set your mind to stay but you can just give EMUI 5 a try. Then if you think you are having any issues you can just roolback. It's not that hard.
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Maybe it happened with just you. You cannot blame EMUI for the trouble. Yeah I admit that it had some bugs at the beginning. Almost all the Android Phones get them at the beginning, even iOS. An year or two ago I had Galaxy Grand Prime and it didn't boot up after it's lollipop/marshmallow update. So I sent it to Samsung and they fixed it. @Cool_Man99 same as they fixed yours. And it's totally functional even today. Well my mom is using that now. And yeah maybe you faced the problem with your device unnecessary heating, so did I. My device also used to get hot while listening to music at night or maybe while i am in school. Also i was not able to install any 3rd party apps in it. As much as I remember they released some patches and I swear now there are no issues that I am facing. Ooh yeah, I never had the battery draining issue, ever. You can ask other people on the forum too if all of them faced issues like you. ?
@bala1701 maybe you did set your mind to stay but you can just give EMUI 5 a try. Then if you think you are having any issues you can just roolback. It's not that hard.
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Yes sure I will definitely give it a try in the future. But as of now I am at peace with EMUI4.1/MM
@Saeem
No it didn't happen just to me.
Lots of people were having similar problems, and that was all over the Internet, including here at XDA and at Huawie forums and Support sites.
Huawie back then created a page with downloadable packages and instructions to switch back to EMUI 4.1 / Android 6.
As I had mentioned before, the battery drain and the excessive overheat were happening even without the phone being used at all, and with the screen turned off.
It wasn't even possible to turn the phone off, or to restart it. These soft buttons were messed up and not functioning properly.
Huawie did not fix the phone, as I had indicated. They replaced it with a new one. It was not fixable..
Glad you and your mom are having no issues.
You might be able to experiment with new software/firmware releases, but many people use the phone for business purposes, and other critical issues. In such uses they cannot afford to be experimenting with buggy Beta releases of software.
Such people use their phone to do things other than play games, text a classmate, or chat with their moms.
You will understand what I mean someday down the road.
Thanks for your input, though.
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@Saeem
No it didn't happen just to me.
Lots of people were having similar problems, and that was all over the Internet, including here at XDA and at Huawie forums and Support sites.
Huawie back then created a page with downloadable packages and instructions to switch back to EMUI 4.1 / Android 6.
As I had mentioned before, the battery drain and the excessive overheat were happening even without the phone being used at all, and with the screen turned off.
It wasn't even possible to turn the phone off, or to restart it. These soft buttons were messed up and not functioning properly.
Huawie did not fix the phone, as I had indicated. They replaced it with a new one. It was not fixable..
Glad you and your mom are having no issues.
You might be able to experiment with new software/firmware releases, but many people use the phone for business purposes, and other critical issues. In such uses they cannot afford to be experimenting with buggy Beta releases of software.
Such people use their phone to do things other than play games, text a classmate, or chat with their moms.
You will understand what I mean someday down the road.
Thanks for your input, though.
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I didn't know that. But thanks :good:
https://twitter.com/sarvikas/status/955753890770665472
Get it here :
https://www.nokia.com/en_int/phones/betalabs
Cool. Bought the phone today, and it's already on 8.1. Hoping Nokia will keep up the pace
I have been battering it since installing and i cant make it cough, splutter or hiccup, seems all but finished to me rather than a beta.
Not quite. I discovered and reported a rather annoying kernel wakelock that doesn't allow CPU deep sleep for hours, causing battery drain.
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Cool. Bought the phone today, and it's already on 8.1. Hoping Nokia will keep up the pace
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Do you mind doing a system dump for me? If you need help look up how to do a system dump, but I think you need root and do adb /pull system .
xterminater07 said:
Do you mind doing a system dump for me? If you need help look up how to do a system dump, but I think you need root and do adb /pull system .
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Hi, and thanks for asking. At the moment I am so happy with the barbone Android, that I don't see a reason to root. Maybe at some other point in time...
By the way, it took just a few seconds to enter Nokia beta and download the 8.1.
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Not quite. I discovered and reported a rather annoying kernel wakelock that doesn't allow CPU deep sleep for hours, causing battery drain.
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Thats weird, everyone else is reporting better battery life.
amunarjoh said:
Cool. Bought the phone today, and it's already on 8.1. Hoping Nokia will keep up the pace
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amunarjoh said:
Hi, and thanks for asking. At the moment I am so happy with the barbone Android, that I don't see a reason to root. Maybe at some other point in time...
By the way, it took just a few seconds to enter Nokia beta and download the 8.1.
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I do not have the phone, I have another phone that uses the same sensors as the Nokia 8, that's why I would like to have the system dump so I can see some information regarding cameras. Or if you can link me to the beta download that would be great. I can try to pull files and info from it.
I haven't noticed any crashes on this beta, but the battery life is definitely worse for me.
This device has no root, so pulling the system will be difficult I think.
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Thats weird, everyone else is reporting better battery life.
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That's what beta testing is for. "Works on my computer", you know, is not an acceptable excuse for programmers doing paid work. In some circumstances, on some models, in some regions, with some mobile service providers, etc, etc, you get intermittent weird problems that are impossible to catch during the "closed" beta testing phase. On my phone, there is almost no CPU deep sleep due to some kernel wakelock (I cannot get more details than this without root access, and there's no root for this model). After 3 days on 8.1 beta, I rolled back to 8.0 stable; no wakelock issues whatsoever. Of course, I submitted a comprehensive bug report before rolling back, so hopefully HMD catches and squashes this bug.
If you set animations to 0.5x you can notice the speed improvement more. Though could be placebo. Before 0.5x was more choppy and 8.1 feels smoother.
8.1 is definitely smoother!
The double tap on recent apps (for fast change) are waaay faster and without a single hiccup for me.
Battery have better stand-by with wifi and auto sync on.
Less than 1% per hour! (almost two hours to drain 1%)
Sent from my Nokia 8!
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That's what beta testing is for. "Works on my computer", you know, is not an acceptable excuse for programmers doing paid work. In some circumstances, on some models, in some regions, with some mobile service providers, etc, etc, you get intermittent weird problems that are impossible to catch during the "closed" beta testing phase. On my phone, there is almost no CPU deep sleep due to some kernel wakelock (I cannot get more details than this without root access, and there's no root for this model). After 3 days on 8.1 beta, I rolled back to 8.0 stable; no wakelock issues whatsoever. Of course, I submitted a comprehensive bug report before rolling back, so hopefully HMD catches and squashes this bug.
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Wow chill your beans, i am fully aware what beta testing is and i certainly do not need preaching to about it by the likes of you.
I was about to report that the standby times on my phone are also reduced but i don't think i'll bother now, you seem to have it all covered with your comprehensive report.
I observe that when i take my phone out of my pocket it automatically unlocks the screen lock( i put my finger on fp sensor when i take my phone out of my pocket). After that i checked if there is a problem with the light sensor, so i covered it so it couldn't get any light but still unlocked the phone when i used my fp to unlock it. Do you guys have that problem? Also to note that when i am making phone calls light sensor works like normal.
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USB tethering also doesn't seem to be working correctly and causes reboots.
still no ambient display......
Also the pop up when i want to disable the mobile data is frustrating. Is there a way to disable this?
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bluetooht not working
bluetooht also doesn't seem to be working correctly and causes reboots. when i make calls over carkit
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bluetooht also doesn't seem to be working correctly and causes reboots. when i make calls over carkit
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I'm using Bluetooth with two different car kits, speaker and headphones. No issues at all. Actually it seems to be using less power than on 8.0.
On 8.0 sometimes I couldn't connect to car kit. On 8.1 this issue seems to be gone.
This is the kind of battery life i am getting now after a few days running the beta, i still think standby times are worse but not shockingly so.
Hi everyone,
I was thrilled last night when my X3 Pro showed an upgrade to Android 12-based MIUI 13 was available. I downloaded the thing (all 3.1 GB of it...), install went without a hitch, ditto reboot, but I'm severely disappointed so far.
Everything feels slow and sluggish, even with the power slider set to Performance and the screen refresh rate pegged at 120 Hz.
Navigation in the Settings menu is OK, but all the other applications are slow to react. Scrolling up and down my Twitter timeline doesn't feel as snappy as it did before, when I was still on MIUI 12.x and Android 11.
Have any of you noticed the same thing? Did Xiaomi jump the gun with this update? I know Android must rebuild some system and application caches after each upgrade and all, but still, this doesn't quite feel right.
The only good thing is the battery life, which seems to have improved a bit, but that's all. DevCheck shows CPU peaks at 2.4 GHz under strain, but the Kryo core that's supposed to clock at 2.9 GHz never seems to wake up.
Did Xiaomi underclock the CPU the way Samsung does sometimes, to preserve battery life? Like I said, something's not right here...
Why do you even MIUI in the first place ?
I had the same. Only the factory reset showed the miui13 claw on Android 12. Tetaz everything runs smoothly. The battery holds up better.
I'm not inclined to do that just now. I've got tons of music and stuff on my phone and I really don't have the time at the moment, but push come to shove, maybe I'll have to do it.
jarco1 said:
Should i factory reset broh my miui updater was not working and everytime it was downloading corrupted zip so i downloaded it from the web with exact same name of the zip file from xiaomi server and updated in miui additional update.
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Just updated my X3 Pro about an hour ago and I'm totally disappointed. It feels heavier and slower to respond overall. Apps like Twitter, Telegram, and Instagram seem much slower and laggy and stutter when scrolling. Twitter in particular runs like disaster. My phone was buttery smooth and did not have any lagging issue even when I tried to create one before this stupid update!!! Should I factory reset or wait for another update or something guys?
omidsr said:
Just updated my X3 Pro about an hour ago and I'm totally disappointed. It feels heavier and slower to respond overall. Apps like Twitter, Telegram, and Instagram seem much slower and laggy and stutter when scrolling. Twitter in particular runs like disaster. My phone was buttery smooth and did not have any lagging issue even when I tried to create one before this stupid update!!! Should I factory reset or wait for another update or something guys?
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Mine is slowly getting there, in terms of ease of use and overall smoothness, so I suppose it's a matter of Android reconstructing apps and system caches after all. It's not quite as smooth as it was under 12.5.9, though, and some "features" are mildly annoying, like the fact that I have to tap the Return to home button twice to actually close some apps (but not all of them). It's hard to tell if the app itself is causing this or if it's an Android 12 trait.
UglyStuff said:
Mine is slowly getting there, in terms of ease of use and overall smoothness, so I suppose it's a matter of Android reconstructing apps and system caches after all. It's not quite as smooth as it was under 12.5.9, though, and some "features" are mildly annoying, like the fact that I have to tap the Return to home button twice to actually close some apps (but not all of them). It's hard to tell if the app itself is causing this or if it's an Android 12 trait.
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I'm also seeing some improvements over time! Totally agree with you! It's getting better as things get reconstructed and stuff but STILL it feels slower than the snappy phone it was before the update. Seems we need to be patient! I don't think a factory reset is worth the time and hassle now that things are showing signs of getting back to normal.
I totally agree. I resort to factory reset only when necessary, with a gun to my head and a knife to my throat...
Let's give it a week or so and we'll see; After all, it's a big upgrade: new MIUI version + moving from Android 11 to Android 12.
Time will tell, but I'm relieved to see it's not my imagination if the phone feels slower!
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I totally agree. I resort to factory reset only when necessary, with a gun to my head and a knife to my throat...
Let's give it a week or so and we'll see; After all, it's a big upgrade: new MIUI version + moving from Android 11 to Android 12.
Time will tell, but I'm relieved to see it's not my imagination if the phone feels slower!
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Agreed! Yup, it definitely is slower to my eyes too. It's no imagination. Sure, it's a BIG update and many enhancements and fixes are to follow in the near future!
Everyone decides for himself what he wants to do. I just wrote that after the update, the phone was stuttering and restoring the factory settings made it run faster and smoother as on miui 12.5.9.0 and it heats up less
Its 2022 and people still dont get that its good to do any major updates on clean phone or do factory reset to remove any issues, official or not, its just how android work really :/
People always had such issues and they probably will have them in the future.
Its not like your life depend on getting new software, so just update later when you have some free time to do clean install or do factory reset.
It remind me of installing custom ROMs when you get feeling that its smoother. Well most of that speed came from having clean system, and after month or two you loose some of it. Here you have clooged system with your stuff and app cache, and you throw on top new OS... you will get some issues...
You guys should know that it is highly recommended to reset during a major Android update if you don't then don't be surprised by weird bugs.
its the common rule,when you are updating any rom on any device,its proper to factory reset and built from then.....i believe its a dirty installation even if you factory reset-install rom-restore data from recovery....even that it will give you some errors....noticed last time with a11,restored from backup ,and the time between restarts,is way to more.....
I have the same problem. I updated it on March 16 (Wednesday) and it's obviously buggy and slow. Google discover on the home screen was so unstable I had to remove it altogether. Phone lags in being unlocked by fingerprint, and locking it with two taps is done without any animation. Gallery is un-usable too as it's become to slow and it stutters. The game boost slider in games is un-usable as it interferes with the game so I've disabled it. I am NOT happy with this upgrade.
Battery might've improved but I suspect they've sacrificed the performance.
just install a custom rom
John1337 said:
I have the same problem. I updated it on March 16 (Wednesday) and it's obviously buggy and slow. Google discover on the home screen was so unstable I had to remove it altogether. Phone lags in being unlocked by fingerprint, and locking it with two taps is done without any animation. Gallery is un-usable too as it's become to slow and it stutters. The game boost slider in games is un-usable as it interferes with the game so I've disabled it. I am NOT happy with this upgrade.
Battery might've improved but I suspect they've sacrificed the performance.
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You can read. After all, many people wrote that after such a large update, and even more so, switching from android 11 to 12, it is advisable to do a factory reset and you will not have any problems. The fluidity will increase significantly and the battery will hold better. It's so hard to understand. The same is done when installing a custom rom.
jarco1 said:
You can read. After all, many people wrote that after such a large update, and even more so, switching from android 11 to 12, it is advisable to do a factory reset and you will not have any problems. The fluidity will increase significantly and the battery will hold better. It's so hard to understand. The same is done when installing a custom rom.
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Maybe work on your grammar and semantics first, and then talk about things being difficult to understand. It's common knowledge that a factory-reset is advisable after an upgrade, and it's not like you're imparting arcane knowledge by saying a factory-reset should be done. What is being discussed here are bugs encountered after an upgrade, and since it's android 12 it's expected that a factory reset shouldn't be needed.
Check your attitude, no one asked for help.
In my opinion, Miui's overall optimization on this phone is a disaster. In one year they haven't been able to correct the Google Discover's tremendous lag yet (I think they haven't even tried to). I have done a totally clean installation of Miui 13 Android 12 via fastboot (using miflash). I must say that the optimization now is even worse than it was before the update. The phone just feels slower. Of course we can use custom roms, but it is Xiaomi's responsability to do a much better work with their software.
I hid the notification and I will not update for a long time until I know that there are improvements to something, since the beta I read that the version has problems :/
That Its true this can be fix with any software update?
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That Its true this can be fix with any software update?
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Given the A53 is a "budget" device with low end hardware, the best you can really do is run a "clean" OS with as little bloat as possible. There isn't much that will make your device faster besides reducing what is running at any given time.
Thank you the attentive answer, it not sounds too good . Not can be at a good and still cheap too
What is your proposal for the Galaxy A73 have you any experience this phone for regarding this topic?
Temporary fix until software update hopefully can fix it.
1. Install and use nova launcher
2. Navigation bar buttons instead gestures.
3. Keyboard lag use Gboard
4. Messenger lag use google messenger.
It seems to fix most lag. It also seems to this is a software issues. Affecting Samsung apps and services. So delete all Samsung apps u can and disable the other u can't delete. Do not use any Samsung apps do not sign in to Samsung. Scrolling stutter only able to fix if screen is put to 60hrz but this isnt a 100% it still will occasionally stutter when scrolling webpages Facebook and so on but it is far less then with 120hrz.
But the 4 solutiona mentioned should fix most lag.
Temporary fix until software update hopefully can fix it.
1. Install and use nova launcher
2. Navigation bar buttons instead gestures.
3. Keyboard lag use Gboard
4. Messenger lag use google messenger.
It seems to fix most lag. It also seems to this is a software issues. Affecting Samsung apps and services. So delete all Samsung apps u can and disable the other u can't delete. Do not use any Samsung apps do not sign in to Samsung. Scrolling stutter only able to fix if screen is put to 60hrz but this isnt a 100% it still will occasionally stutter when scrolling webpages Facebook and so on but it is far less then with 120hrz.
But the 4 solutiona mentioned should fix most lag.
dante501 said:
Temporary fix until software update hopefully can fix it.
1. Install and use nova launcher
2. Navigation bar buttons instead gestures.
3. Keyboard lag use Gboard
4. Messenger lag use google messenger.
It seems to fix most lag. It also seems to this is a software issues. Affecting Samsung apps and services. So delete all Samsung apps u can and disable the other u can't delete. Do not use any Samsung apps do not sign in to Samsung. Scrolling stutter only able to fix if screen is put to 60hrz but this isnt a 100% it still will occasionally stutter when scrolling webpages Facebook and so on but it is far less then with 120hrz.
But the 4 solutiona mentioned should fix most lag.
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Thank you these usefull advise. i will try it asap and will feedback that what is the result.
This phone was definitely slower when I first got it. It took a few days of use for it to get adjusted. I also always replace the launcher with nova, keyboard with gboard, and messages with signal.
Then I use ADB to remove a couple of stupid packages. Like anything Facebook related any of the AR packages, apps that I don't use (why the hell does Samsung have two messaging apps on a phone stock?).
I came from the OnePlus 6t and I feel like this device is only a minor upgrade overall. In the end that's kind of all I was looking for because the 6t still ran great.
I do notice some poor responsiveness in the touch screen from time to time (although that seems to be getting better each day) and I definitely noticed a pretty big delay when I use voice to text. It definitely takes a second to fire up the mic which leads to it picking up where I'm talking mid sentence.
I may yank out more of the Samsung system apps as time goes on. For the moment I'm enjoying the Bixby routines because it's keeping me from needing to install Tasker. I recommend everyone try that at their own risk. Do some research first but there are a lot of system apps and processes that Samsung preloads in here that always run in the background sucking up precious RAM. I say try it at your own risk because if you uninstall the wrong applications you can mess your phone up pretty bad.
Also Facebook is a big resource hog. Even on an iPhone 13 it can stutter occasionally or even freezes specially in marketplace and makes the phone run hot. If you don't mind using the mobile version I would highly recommend using that instead the app.
I also think there is better devices for less mOney that even offer more but probably never get those 4 software updates. Like the Blu F91 BLU F91 5G | 2022 | 3-Day Battery | Unlocked | 6.8” Full HD+ Display | 128/8GB | 48MP Quad Camera | US Version | US Warranty | Sky Blue https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09WJM9XVW/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_FW76ZJAX9F1BWN35ZA5M?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 it has wireless fast charging and a gas charger in the box a case and screen protector and headphones. It's 5G and it's 250 dollars. This phone overall is a much better deal but the software probably will never or only be upgraded one time unfortunately.
dante501 said:
I also think there is better devices for less mOney that even offer more but probably never get those 4 software updates. Like the Blu F91 BLU F91 5G | 2022 | 3-Day Battery | Unlocked | 6.8” Full HD+ Display | 128/8GB | 48MP Quad Camera | US Version | US Warranty | Sky Blue https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09WJM9XVW/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_FW76ZJAX9F1BWN35ZA5M?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 it has wireless fast charging and a gas charger in the box a case and screen protector and headphones. It's 5G and it's 250 dollars. This phone overall is a much better deal but the software probably will never or only be upgraded one time unfortunately.
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I agree 100% about facebook. I stopped using the app shortly after they first released it LOL. I find it much much easier to just use the mobile website.
I was looking at some Chinese devices as well before settling on this. One of the reasons I went with the a53 5G is compatibility with T-Mobile's 5G in my area. Also the software and support factored in. I was lucky enough to have my 6t for almost 4 years. That's the longest I've ever had a smartphone for and I really enjoyed being able to get that much lifespan out of a inexpensive device compared to the competition. The promise of support for this device led me to choose it even though it's only a mild upgrade from what I had before.
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I agree 100% about facebook. I stopped using the app shortly after they first released it LOL. I find it much much easier to just use the mobile website.
I was looking at some Chinese devices as well before settling on this. One of the reasons I went with the a53 5G is compatibility with T-Mobile's 5G in my area. Also the software and support factored in. I was lucky enough to have my 6t for almost 4 years. That's the longest I've ever had a smartphone for and I really enjoyed being able to get that much lifespan out of a inexpensive device compared to the competition. The promise of support for this device led me to choose it even though it's only a mild upgrade from what I had before.
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thank you the usefull and detail of rich description...
It is laggy because Samsung picked the weaker hardware for this phone (even though it sells for mid range price, there is no SD778 or Exynos 1080 or Dimensity 1200). As others said you could disable things and only use 60Hz screen. But if you haven't bought it yet you can buy the A52s which will be smoother.
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This phone was definitely slower when I first got it. It took a few days of use for it to get adjusted. I also always replace the launcher with nova, keyboard with gboard, and messages with signal.
Then I use ADB to remove a couple of stupid packages. Like anything Facebook related any of the AR packages, apps that I don't use (why the hell does Samsung have two messaging apps on a phone stock?).
I came from the OnePlus 6t and I feel like this device is only a minor upgrade overall. In the end that's kind of all I was looking for because the 6t still ran great.
I do notice some poor responsiveness in the touch screen from time to time (although that seems to be getting better each day) and I definitely noticed a pretty big delay when I use voice to text. It definitely takes a second to fire up the mic which leads to it picking up where I'm talking mid sentence.
I may yank out more of the Samsung system apps as time goes on. For the moment I'm enjoying the Bixby routines because it's keeping me from needing to install Tasker. I recommend everyone try that at their own risk. Do some research first but there are a lot of system apps and processes that Samsung preloads in here that always run in the background sucking up precious RAM. I say try it at your own risk because if you uninstall the wrong applications you can mess your phone up pretty bad.
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Did removing these packages help performance? I am going back and forth about whether to return the phone or not (the camera is unusable at the moment - but hopefully that changes with software updates - I am yet to receive the April update). Thanks.
kitchenfork said:
Did removing these packages help performance? I am going back and forth about whether to return the phone or not (the camera is unusable at the moment - but hopefully that changes with software updates - I am yet to receive the April update). Thanks.
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Removing packages helped free up some RAM. I'm definitely not experiencing the level of lag you're describing and the camera seems fine compared to my 6t.
This phone is half the price of most flagship devices. I'm not sure what your expectations are for such a device. Perhaps you should get a better device, or wait for the new oneplus Nord and see how it's performs.
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Did removing these packages help performance? I am going back and forth about whether to return the phone or not (the camera is unusable at the moment - but hopefully that changes with software updates - I am yet to receive the April update). Thanks.
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I'm confused. I don't have Facebook on my A53 or ADB wasn't needed if it was originally (and not system app). Did you grab a carrier one? That would explain it to me. Not seeing lag on my unlocked A53.
If you grabbed an unlocked one then I don't know why you'd have lag unless it had a physical issue or you use something I don't use that causes it.
dante501 said:
Temporary fix until software update hopefully can fix it.
1. Install and use nova launcher
2. Navigation bar buttons instead gestures.
3. Keyboard lag use Gboard
4. Messenger lag use google messenger.
It seems to fix most lag. It also seems to this is a software issues. Affecting Samsung apps and services. So delete all Samsung apps u can and disable the other u can't delete. Do not use any Samsung apps do not sign in to Samsung. Scrolling stutter only able to fix if screen is put to 60hrz but this isnt a 100% it still will occasionally stutter when scrolling webpages Facebook and so on but it is far less then with 120hrz.
But the 4 solutiona mentioned should fix most lag.
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Enable developer options and disable all animations should fix this without the need for installing a 3rd party launcher or other software.
DRSdroid said:
Removing packages helped free up some RAM. I'm definitely not experiencing the level of lag you're describing and the camera seems fine compared to my 6t.
This phone is half the price of most flagship devices. I'm not sure what your expectations are for such a device. Perhaps you should get a better device, or wait for the new oneplus Nord and see how it's performs.
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Hmmm, the camera takes about 1 to 2 seconds to take a photo, and sometimes doesn't take a photo at all and because of the lag I often miss the photo opportunity because I am waiting to see if it worked (daytime photos). The rest is manageable, but still laggier then my old S9+, I at least thought it would match that performance (I don't game, so only day to day use performance is important for me). Seems like my phone is unusually slow, maybe something went wrong when transferring over from s9+ and I should start fresh with a factory reset! Everything else about the phone is great, so I will persevere . A few software updates should hopefully smooth things out. Thanks for the help/suggestions.
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Hmmm, the camera takes about 1 to 2 seconds to take a photo, and sometimes doesn't take a photo at all and because of the lag I often miss the photo opportunity because I am waiting to see if it worked (daytime photos). The rest is manageable, but still laggier then my old S9+, I at least thought it would match that performance (I don't game, so only day to day use performance is important for me). Seems like my phone is unusually slow, maybe something went wrong when transferring over from s9+ and I should start fresh with a factory reset! Everything else about the phone is great, so I will persevere . A few software updates should hopefully smooth things out. Thanks for the help/suggestions.
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If its only the camera from press to saved then the April update should mostly if not fully solve that. You have the April update yet or not?
For me it seems to be under a second after April update. Pre-April it was more like 3-5 seconds.
Not really something I would have cared that much about either way lol. Just have to get used to it.
I've had this phone almost a week now.. I have SwiftKey as my kb...
Can't say I've noticed any type of lag on this device... 120hz, dark mode background services running, wifi calling on you name it.
What are y'all even all the reviewers doing to experience lag??
Kind of would like to know lol
V0latyle said:
Given the A53 is a "budget" device with low end hardware, the best you can really do is run a "clean" OS with as little bloat as possible. There isn't much that will make your device faster besides reducing what is running at any given time.
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A53 is not a "Budget" device. It is mid level. Samsung's budget devices are the A1#, A2# and A3# phones.