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Hey Everyone!
My video review went live on Thursday but forgot to post it so here it is.
Let me know what you think.

Edit out the initial clapping. Kind of low energy but maybe that's just your way. Overall ok, but saying they put zero effort in software is a little over the top.
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bill3508 said:
Edit out the initial clapping. Kind of low energy but maybe that's just your way. Overall ok, but saying they put zero effort in software is a little over the top.
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I kinda agree.. It's a little dull compared to other reviewers/review videos. It didn't really grab my attention at all. Plus there is not a single close up shot of the device and 360 camera (which is present in every single good review of a device) it's just you sitting at a table talking about it. It needs more b-roll, more close-ups of the device showing its features/design etc.. I would recommend watching more reviews from your AC buddies, Mr Mobile, MKBHD etc if you're looking to become a "personality". Sorry, that's just my opinion and some constructive criticism.
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Thanks for the input guys.
bill3508 said:
Edit out the initial clapping. Kind of low energy but maybe that's just your way. Overall ok, but saying they put zero effort in software is a little over the top.
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Ya the clapping was just for fun to see how it reacted with people i am taking it out. Tried to keep the energy a bit down on this one so i could get my thoughts out clearly. Usually a bit more animated. The software is just stock android and they need to make a few more tweeks to make it a bit more usable IMO. It works well but could be better.
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I kinda agree.. It's a little dull compared to other reviewers/review videos. It didn't really grab my attention at all. Plus there is not a single close up shot of the device and 360 camera (which is present in every single good review of a device) it's just you sitting at a table talking about it. It needs more b-roll, more close-ups of the device showing its features/design etc.. I would recommend watching more reviews from your AC buddies, Mr Mobile, MKBHD etc if you're looking to become a "personality". Sorry, that's just my opinion and some constructive criticism.
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Ya the 360 video i already did and think i linked it in the video i may have to check that. did not want to rehash to much if i had it in another video. I wanted more footage and b roll but TBH this was done a day before i had to leave to go and get married last weekend lol. Last 2 weeks have been all wedding no time to film much of anything but i am working on that side of it for sure. I'm slowly trying to build my own "brand identity" where its not only about tech. example be on the lookout from my Hawaiian island videos that will be coming in the next month. Gonna do some fun shooting and storytelling in them

It's OK. But you're a bit late to the party--the reviews that were going to sway anyone came out over the past couple of weeks. At this point, you need to work outside the box to bring something novel to your review...or it's just going to be more noise.

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Despite the issues with the g2x

Whether you have any issues or not, (me personally none I love this phone)
Are you keeping your g2x?
smashpunks said:
Whether you have any issues or not, (me personally none I love this phone)
Are you keeping your g2x?
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original pre ordered G2x problems: decent Bleeding/reboot every few days
2nd G2x: HORRIBLE how can i say this better ..... FUGLY BLEEDING
3rd device on its way: possible bleed maybe reboot issue/wifi problem....?
4th G2x:......... maybe if the third one sucks
5th G2x...... i hope not
but yes im keeping it/them even if i have to exchange it for the next two years
alot of support behind the phone and a great community!
bought it with my employee discount
no returns for us
luckily i still have 1 discount left which i'll use on the sensation or the GS2. then my discounts reset in october.
Definately keeping it. I guess I was one of the lucky ones. I have not experienced any of the reported issues. My screen does have a slight bleed, but not highly noticeable . I already rooted and flashed Eagles_blood rom. Its only a matter of time until more roms and custom kernels are realeased, then we will really see what this phone is capable of.
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I bought the phone yesterday knowing that I had 30 days to make my mind up on it. While I've only had the phone for a little over 48 hours, so far all is good. Yes the screen bleeds but its not as bad some peoples. Frankly I dont often watch video on my phone nor do I use dark wallpapers so the only time I ever even think of the bleeding is during boot and when I check this forum (lol). No reboots yet, OS is faster than any phone I've ever used, and contrary to my expectations HSPA+ actually does provide a noticeable boost. What I'm monitoring closest now is battery life. So far it seems to be at least on par with my Vibrant which is something I can live with. Loving stock Android also. If things keep up at this rate I wont be taking it back in 28 days.
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Frankly I dont often watch video on my phone nor do I use dark wallpapers
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Well gingerbread has a black notification bar, so if you have issues with the top corners like i did you might change your mind about the bleeding being ok.
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Well gingerbread has a black notification bar, so if you have issues with the top corners like i did you might change your mind about the bleeding being ok.
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I've checked screenshots with black toolbars and it wont be an issue for me. I keep the tool bar hidden anyway so the only time its even visible is if I have an app open in which case im focused on the content of the app not the notification bar. I'm sure there will be tons of themes with light notification bars anyway.
I have a black notification bar right now and the bleeding isnt noticeable.
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today i returned mine, i miss it already but the battery life was unacceptable, been using it for 10 days and it got slightly better, not to forget the backlight bleeding and the various bugs here and there.
Im going to pick up SGS2 once it's available here, although i despise the touchwiz but thank god we LauncherPro
I unfortunately had to exchange my first one for a new one. My original would randomly think the wired headset was connected when it wasnt. This rendered the phone basically useless. Plus no one else in these forums talked about a similar situation. So I exchanged mine for a new one. So far its good. Fingers crossed!
I wish everyone that decides to pass on the G2X for the sgs2 or sensation the best of luck! Coming from Sammy's first real attempt at trying to run with the big dogs, the VIBRANT, I can honestly say that while its a decent device to get started with in android, it leaves much to be desired. At the time of its release the galaxy s line had the best hardware then too. But that didn't mean sqaut in real world performance. Those things laughed at us everytime we opened the app menu!
Look at all the time people like SUPERCURIO put into voodoo, just to make that thing be half the phone it could be. And dont even get me started on updates! Froyo? Froyo? Did you say Froyo? I had froyo before it was even a wet dream in TMO's eyes here. If it wasnt for some great DEV's pulling together on that thing and making it what it should have been in the first place, I, along with half the people that bought a vibrant probably woulda nailed our genitalia to the floor in a burning building.
So you guys get a super duper AMOLED screen phone that you still cant see in the sun! Talk about how AWESOME that screen is inside the house. Go ahead, take it in, love it, embrace it! Your little injection molded plastic-ey POS may sound like the next best thing, but this guy read the book and bought the t shirt! #SAMSUNGNEVERAGAIN!
Just wait, you'll see. And BTW good luck with that htc boot loader, sensation fans. I'll sit back and watch from the sidelines with my #CYANOGENMOD G2X!
hanged_man said:
today i returned mine, i miss it already but the battery life was unacceptable, been using it for 10 days and it got slightly better, not to forget the backlight bleeding and the various bugs here and there.
Im going to pick up SGS2 once it's available here, although i despise the touchwiz but thank god we LauncherPro
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Your going to love all the mods you're going to have to do to get rid of the iphone lookin, battery hogging, hope you know how to root, because it will still run in the background and control everything. So yes, they dont like to release kernel code either.
Please dont take my ramblings as the spoken word. Sammy might surprise us and throw us a bone. But remember if you get one update thats all you should expect.
And for the record, HELL YEAH! I still have a sour taste in my mouth from that fricken phone!
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Your going to love all the mods you're going to have to do to get rid of the iphone lookin, battery hogging, hope you know how to root, because it will still run in the background and control everything. So yes, they dont like to release kernel code either.
Please dont take my ramblings as the spoken word. Sammy might surprise us and throw us a bone. But remember if you get one update thats all you should expect.
And for the record, HELL YEAH! I still have a sour taste in my mouth from that fricken phone!
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My name's S0NiX, and I approve of this message.
I returned for now and will be getting it again in a few months, regardless of the upcoming Sensation/GS2.
ciscothek said:
I have a black notification bar right now and the bleeding isnt noticeable.
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Eaglesblood rom has black notification, and you barely see it. I see it a little in youtube, cwm and bootup. But only in complete darkness.
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Camera

Not really digging it. Hard to get a non blurry shot with this thing. Takes way to long to snap a pic.
I also miss Macro mode.
Hope some software updates help the camera. From what I've read, the International versions were awesome.
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I feel the same way
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Baldilocks said:
Not really digging it. Hard to get a non blurry shot with this thing. Takes way to long to snap a pic.
I also miss Macro mode.
Hope some software updates help the camera. From what I've read, the International versions were awesome.
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My snaps are instant...no processing time what so ever...I can just continuiusly snap pictures if I wanted. ..so not sure what you mean about it taking long
My photos are hardly blurry either...just one tap to focus and im good to go...sometimes dont even need to focus
And for macro whats the use? This thing can do macro without that setting...it takes better close up shots than any other phone ive ever used
And its not just me...everyone I show my pictures to are all amazed by the clarity and detail...idk maybe I got lucky with a good device as I seem to have no issues others are having...only issue ive had so far is with snapchat yesterday but that seemed to clear its self up
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My snaps are instant...no processing time what so ever...I can just continuiusly snap pictures if I wanted. ..so not sure what you mean about it taking long
My photos are hardly blurry either...just one tap to focus and im good to go...sometimes dont even need to focus
And for macro whats the use? This thing can do macro without that setting...it takes better close up shots than any other phone ive ever used
And its not just me...everyone I show my pictures to are all amazed by the clarity and detail...idk maybe I got lucky with a good device as I seem to have no issues others are having...only issue ive had so far is with snapchat yesterday but that seemed to clear its self up
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I can literally count to 4 before it snaps a picture. If someone moves then forget it. Tons of blur.
I can't take closeup pics. Won't focus in that close.
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The camera on this thing is amazing. I'm coming from a galaxy nexus so maybe that's why.
If you leave it on Auto it snaps pics blazing fast. Put it on HDR and they're still decently fast, but it "processes" them afterwards.
Also, depending on your lighting will also affect the speed at which it takes pictures because it's leaving the "shutter" open longer to capture more light on to the sensor. Use a flash in low-light to help with this.
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The camera on this thing is amazing. I'm coming from a galaxy nexus so maybe that's why.
If you leave it on Auto it snaps pics blazing fast. Put it on HDR and they're still decently fast, but it "processes" them afterwards.
Also, depending on your lighting will also affect the speed at which it takes pictures because it's leaving the "shutter" open longer to capture more light on to the sensor. Use a flash in low-light to help with this.
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Auto is what is taking the longest. My mold GS2 and GS3 are much better right now.
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Baldilocks said:
Auto is what is taking the longest. My mold GS2 and GS3 are much better right now.
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Can you take a video of yourself demonstating this? I just checked mine and it's literally like instant when i take a photo. I'm also in moderate lighting conditions.
Baldilocks said:
Auto is what is taking the longest. My mold GS2 and GS3 are much better right now.
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Something is seriously wrong... Try to reset your camera settings. If its still taking that long to even process a picture something is definitely wrong with your unit. Bad shots or not, it does not take almost 4 seconds to process a shot.
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I agree the focus takes a long time (relatively)
It's got to be ypur specific device because mine is almost flawless
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It seems to me that a lot of the people that claim problems with their S4s are the same people over and over again. Yet others, claim little or no problems.
So, it would seem that either the problems are specific to certain devices or for whatever reason, people are just trying to shine a bad light on the S4 in general. I think the evidence (so far) suggests that certain phones, indeed, have certain problems.
Complaining about the problems do help, as it lets others know that problems they are experiencing might not be specific to their device only. However, it doesn't shine any light on the issue. So here is what I propose.
If you are one of the people that are claiming bad lag or other problems with your S4, start a thread that allows people to associate their username with their S4 (and all of the problems you are having) and make sure to list your purchase date, build#, current firmware, and any mods (rooting, etc...) that you have done to the phone. Also list where the phone was manufactured and any other details that might set it apart.
Also, do the same if you claim to have no or little issues with your S4.
Hopefully, a pattern might emerge showing that certain phones (lots, firmwares, builds, etc...) are the problem and others are not.
This seems to be better than making another 20 threads about the same old stuff with no idea as to why it is happening. Anyway, it's just an idea.
Mine is flawless it beat everyone else's phones and even point and shoots yesterday someone's prom and I was asked to be the photographer at last min and my DSLR was at home 45min away so I used my phone and it was pretty good enough it took amazing pictures!
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Did you make sure you turn on anti-shake in the camera app?
I found out that it's off by default..
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Compared to HTC One, I also found GS4 camera to lag for a second after tapping before photo was actually taken.
For that matter, GS3 AND GALAXY NEXUS were faster than my GS4.
can't get any better than this.... Took these last Saturday the 1st day the phone came out :laugh:
I live in New York City and have taken numerous, non blurry shots with this phone. The shutter speed is indeed slower than the HTC One (which my girlfriend owns), but it's easily remedied by holding still a bit longer.
Here are some shots...
Keep in mind the shot of Barclays is 9MP while the shot of One World Trade and the GTR were taken off of Facebook (and may have been cropped) since they're some how no longer in my SD card. Also the latter two were taken while I was driving so they're remarkably in focus.
Have you removed the plastic from the lens? It's very hard to see and pretty tough to remove. But that could be your problem with the focus issue.
BKlip said:
Have you removed the plastic from the lens? It's very hard to see and pretty tough to remove. But that could be your problem with the focus issue.
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I'm the one who started the thread on removing that from the camera. It helped some.
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I'm the one who started the thread on removing that from the camera. It helped some.
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Can you take a video of you taking a picture describing the 4sec response time?
Yeah without showing us some pictures you have taken. or a video showing this. We won't really be able to compare or diagnose this situation. It's just one group saying look at my photos its good. and another group saying its bad. Post some content. I am actually quite curious about this problem you are having.

S8+ Weighlifting

Ok, this is a really specific question so may not be one you can help with but throwing it out there.
Switched from an iPhone to the S8+ and love it except for one thing. The one app I use daily and intensely is Gymaholic on iOS. A very detailed and customisable workout app that lets me input my individual daily workouts, sync them to my Apple Watch, tweak them on the watch as I workout and then have it monitor my heart rate and reps and sync back. It is a fantastic app. I love it.
I can't find anything similar in terms of quality or features on Android that plays nicely with Android Wear. There was one called Rithmio but it looks like they went bust a few months back.
This is a deal breaker for me and I really don't want to have to return the S8. Anyone got any suggestions?
Thanks so much.
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If you need your phone to tell you if you've had a good lifting session mate you're doing it wrong.
Ah XDA, helpful as usual. I don't have an answer for you OP, but I do know that Android is missing a lot of the polished iOS apps. It is very likely that there is no equivalent to what you are looking for. This is part of the reason why I keep both an iPhone and flagship Android most times.
I keep track of my progress mentally, don't really write anything down.
However, I'm sure there are a bunch of apps that would suit you.
Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on how you look at it), you just have to take the time and do your own research.
A quick 5 second google search and I found this:
It's called -> JEFIT Workout Tracker Gym Log
philliplavelle said:
Ok, this is a really specific question so may not be one you can help with but throwing it out there.
Switched from an iPhone to the S8+ and love it except for one thing. The one app I use daily and intensely is Gymaholic on iOS. A very detailed and customisable workout app that lets me input my individual daily workouts, sync them to my Apple Watch, tweak them on the watch as I workout and then have it monitor my heart rate and reps and sync back. It is a fantastic app. I love it.
I can't find anything similar in terms of quality or features on Android that plays nicely with Android Wear. There was one called Rithmio but it looks like they went bust a few months back.
This is a deal breaker for me and I really don't want to have to return the S8. Anyone got any suggestions?
Thanks so much.
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I use Jefit, have been since 2011.its an amazing gym app
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have you checked google fit, samsung health?
philliplavelle said:
Ok, this is a really specific question so may not be one you can help with but throwing it out there.
Switched from an iPhone to the S8+ and love it except for one thing. The one app I use daily and intensely is Gymaholic on iOS. A very detailed and customisable workout app that lets me input my individual daily workouts, sync them to my Apple Watch, tweak them on the watch as I workout and then have it monitor my heart rate and reps and sync back. It is a fantastic app. I love it.
I can't find anything similar in terms of quality or features on Android that plays nicely with Android Wear. There was one called Rithmio but it looks like they went bust a few months back.
This is a deal breaker for me and I really don't want to have to return the S8. Anyone got any suggestions?
Thanks so much.
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I'm on a very similar spot as you mate.
I've had my back and forth experiences with iOS, but eventually always come back to Android.
For all my Android years, I've consistently used JEFIT and it hasn't turned me down. It does have its downsides, but all apps do.
I suggest you try it out. On their beta test program (I believe you can freely join to it) they are experimenting with Android Wear support.
Let me know how it goes!
Cheers
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Does he even lift bro?
JEFIT user here too
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Jefit user also & so is my husband. It's probably the best workout app for Android.
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Does he even lift bro?
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Dunno what your logic is there but I use the app to put my workouts in so that I can follow them on my watch and then if I decrease or increase the weight, I can update it and it syncs back to the phone to tell me when I next come to do that exercise what weight i
lifted to failure. Much easier than a pen and paper. I'm doing German Volume Training right now which is very intense and keeping a log is crucial rather than just guessing by looking at the weights. So yeah, I do lift, bro [emoji23]
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+1 for jefit
Great for experienced and beginner users alike
jefit in combination with myfitnesspal is all what i use.
philliplavelle said:
Dunno what your logic is there but I use the app to put my workouts in so that I can follow them on my watch and then if I decrease or increase the weight, I can update it and it syncs back to the phone to tell me when I next come to do that exercise what weight i
lifted to failure. Much easier than a pen and paper. I'm doing German Volume Training right now which is very intense and keeping a log is crucial rather than just guessing by looking at the weights. So yeah, I do lift, bro [emoji23]
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Lol bruh I wish I really cared:laugh:
Just do curls with your S8+ itself, as the title of the thread implies. About 2,000 reps should get those arms ripped. A heavy case will add a nice challenge.
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rflieger said:
Just do curls with your S8+ itself, as the title of the thread implies. About 2,000 reps should get those arms ripped. A heavy case will add a nice challenge.
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Damn Phil he can joke around but I cant...ok!
I use Progression, it does the job for me and works with android wear.
Just a suggestion but if I were you, and you REALLY liked that iOS only app maybe you could just get a used iPod touch or something? That way you have a device just for music at the gym and the app you like. The Bluetooth range on the s8 is supposed to be better too so maybe you can use it to Bluetooth tether internet to the iPod. Just a thought.
+1 for jefit!Very usefull app if you want to track your reps sets and used weight per exercise.
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Damn Phil he can joke around but I cant...ok!
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I want having a go at you mate. The other comment was just a bit patronising
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is no one concern about the edge sense failure in the announcement?

I saw the phone's announcement, and in my opinion they should never let Charlie Chang present a phones again.
It was one of the most awkward announcements I watched. He looked like he is going to explode, and every feature he presented it looked like he is praying to god that it will work.
but that's one thing.
during the presentation he tried to activate google assistant through the Edge Sense, and it didn't work, then he tried again and it failed again, then he made the most awkward "ooopss" he could make, while trying again couple of times until he continued presenting the google assistant without mentioning or talking about the incident (which is understandable but still troubling).
the weirdest thing is that I can't find any review or post that talks about it, I thought the press will destroy Htc for this screw up.
for me it's really troubling, this gimmick can be nice, but it's the first time we see something like this on any phone and I have doubts about its quality.
what do you think?
Meh, to say that I've never had stuff like that happen on any phone I've owned would be a huge understatement.
Had a unit in hand to test it one week ahead of the official announcement. On my test unit the Edge Sense worked really good, after getting accustomed after the first 30 Minutes and configuring it to my pressure sensitivity in settings.
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Jeah some other people already tried Edge Sense and said something similar like @5m4r7ph0n36uru said. Its working okay or good - better then many expected. But for me its just a nice to have. Lets see how much they can improve this feature with future Software updates. Maybe its just a feature that ends up being a public prototype which would also be okay. If this feature is any good they will probably improve the hardware behind it in a future device.
I mean its the same with the fingerprint scanners, the first and even second version in the iPhone was quite bad in my opinion. The one in the 6s is good, but the ones before where too slow and the failure rate was too high (for me).
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I saw the phone's announcement, and in my opinion they should never let Charlie Chang present a phones again.
It was one of the most awkward announcements I watched. He looked like he is going to explode, and every feature he presented it looked like he is praying to god that it will work.
but that's one thing.
during the presentation he tried to activate google assistant through the Edge Sense, and it didn't work, then he tried again and it failed again, then he made the most awkward "ooopss" he could make, while trying again couple of times until he continued presenting the google assistant without mentioning or talking about the incident (which is understandable but still troubling).
the weirdest thing is that I can't find any review or post that talks about it, I thought the press will destroy Htc for this screw up.
for me it's really troubling, this gimmick can be nice, but it's the first time we see something like this on any phone and I have doubts about its quality.
what do you think?
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I wouldn't read too much into it - could be nerves, could be the phone wasn't set up properly for him, old software, etc.
Microsoft launched a version of windows (I think it might have been Win98) and during the launch they encountered the Blue Screen Of Death... it didn't seem to have much impact on their future!
I'm not too worried. If it doesn't work well I will just disable it. The phone is still nice.
Entrail said:
Jeah some other people already tried Edge Sense and said something similar like @5m4r7ph0n36uru said. Its working okay or good - better then many expected. But for me its just a nice to have. Lets see how much they can improve this feature with future Software updates. Maybe its just a feature that ends up being a public prototype which would also be okay. If this feature is any good they will probably improve the hardware behind it in a future device.
I mean its the same with the fingerprint scanners, the first and even second version in the iPhone was quite bad in my opinion. The one in the 6s is good, but the ones before where too slow and the failure rate was too high (for me).
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They will update it. As HTC told in the same briefing, they are already planing to implement Double-Tab as a possibility to take further actions with Edge Sense, though they couldn't tell the date at this time but only that it is on the list. So I guess they are definitely planing to implement more gestures by such a step making short press, long press and double press available. With two different force settings, this would give us six gestures in total to configure for separate actions.
Something further is App based actions that'll be implemented to change the action resulting from a short press depending on the App you're using.
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I saw reviews. it works pretty well.
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They will update it. As HTC told in the same briefing, they are already planing to implement Double-Tab as a possibility to take further actions with Edge Sense, though they couldn't tell the date at this time but only that it is on the list. So I guess they are definitely planing to implement more gestures by such a step making short press, long press and double press available. With two different force settings, this would give us six gestures in total to configure for separate actions.
Something further is App based actions that'll be implemented to change the action resulting from a short press depending on the App you're using.
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I hope so and i am sure they will but all I'm saying is that the hardware will be limited like i said with the fingerprint or another example the pressure sensitivity from the surface pen. In the first iterations it only had 256 different steps now they have around 2000. (not sure about the exact numbers here )
My hope is not too big about this squeeze feature in the first iteration but i am curious and will give it a try.
liorderei said:
I saw the phone's announcement, and in my opinion they should never let Charlie Chang present a phones again.
It was one of the most awkward announcements I watched. He looked like he is going to explode, and every feature he presented it looked like he is praying to god that it will work.
but that's one thing.
during the presentation he tried to activate google assistant through the Edge Sense, and it didn't work, then he tried again and it failed again, then he made the most awkward "ooopss" he could make, while trying again couple of times until he continued presenting the google assistant without mentioning or talking about the incident (which is understandable but still troubling).
the weirdest thing is that I can't find any review or post that talks about it, I thought the press will destroy Htc for this screw up.
for me it's really troubling, this gimmick can be nice, but it's the first time we see something like this on any phone and I have doubts about its quality.
what do you think?
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I thought the same Totally agreed with you... But I'm still buying the phone.. I hope after 1-2 updates it will work better.
I am lucky I wasn't in his shoes. Very awkward indeed. His hands were shaking.
I don't think it will damage sales. And in a live event anything can happen.
I don't think it even had to do with edge sense TBH... I think it had to do with the assistant apps themselves and probably the internet connection within the venue.
Mine works well do far. I just need to remember about it. I've left it starting the camera and it's good.
Honestly, I was hoping the edge sense would have worked just as the early videos showed of a couple walking the street and navigating the app drawer with the edge. Maybe version 2. But that was sick!
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Honestly, I was hoping the edge sense would have worked just as the early videos showed of a couple walking the street and navigating the app drawer with the edge. Maybe version 2. But that was sick!
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Can't say I've every been walking the street and needed to navigate the app draw. I have shortcuts for everything already. Actually only time I navigate the app draw is when I'm adding a shortcut lol. But I see what you saying. Maybe if they added volume up down or scrolling, but don't think that's how it works.
well... it would probably have worked better if she took them off..

Time to finalize the order

I received the email this morning to finalize my order.
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Same here. Finalized my order, now just have to wait for a shipping notification.
I just can't bring myself to do it. How are you guys spending 700$ to purchase something you know absolutely nothing about?
I'm confused... Did they retract all the specifications and pictures? ~
Based on the specs and the person at the helm, what else is there to know... It's just like buying the latest flagship from [Insert Phone Maker Here].
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I just can't bring myself to do it. How are you guys spending 700$ to purchase something you know absolutely nothing about?
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I'm confused... Did they retract all the specifications and pictures? ~
Based on the specs and the person at the helm, what else is there to know... It's just like buying the latest flagship from [Insert Phone Maker Here].
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The key difference is that we usually have reviews (or at least hastily done hands-on previews) in hand before forking over money for other flagships. Nobody has a review on this yet.
Sure, reviews aren't perfect but they answer a LOT of the questions that we all have about this thing. Face it, Essential's communication has been pretty poor leading up to right now. And specs aren't everything.
Example: If Essential says "Our phone runs Android well and it's buttery smooth", would you trust that as much as if any other reputable reviewer said the same thing?
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I'm confused... Did they retract all the specifications and pictures? ~
Based on the specs and the person at the helm, what else is there to know... It's just like buying the latest flagship from [Insert Phone Maker Here].
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You're saying every flagship phone is exactly the same. Pick something with an 835 chip and everything else is identical; picture quality, battery life, screen quality, warranty support.... list goes on.
Nobody other than Essential employees know how the camera performs. You're putting a lot of weight into Andy Rubin's name being involved and he really has done nothing to earn that weight, in my opinion.
I'm not getting rid of my Pixel XL just yet. If the Essential sucks (I really don't think it will), it just goes on Swappa, I keep using the XL and wait for the new one to come out. I can honestly say that I haven't been as excited about a phone release as I am about the Essential in a long, long, time. The screen real estate is absolutely beautiful.
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I just can't bring myself to do it. How are you guys spending 700$ to purchase something you know absolutely nothing about?
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True! i don't even know the full specs of this phone.. Lol
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I'm not getting rid of my Pixel XL just yet. If the Essential sucks (I really don't think it will), it just goes on Swappa, I keep using the XL and wait for the new one to come out. I can honestly say that I haven't been as excited about a phone release as I am about the Essential in a long, long, time. The screen real estate is absolutely beautiful.
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They have a 15 day return policy if you buy from Essential in the US. I'm probably gonna buy but only because of the 100% money back (and free return shipping) policy.
I forked over the money.. Looking forward to something new!
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I forked over the money.. Looking forward to something new!
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Same here. Been with HTC since the M8 and Samsung before that. Was going for the Pixel 2 this year until this came out.
Willing to give them a try.
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I just can't bring myself to do it. How are you guys spending 700$ to purchase something you know absolutely nothing about?
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15 day return policy
I'm all in. As other's noted, 15-day return policy. If it sucks, it goes back.
Hardware wise I think it will perform, and I think android will operate fine. Just my belief based on who's doing this thing.
My only hesitation before pulling the trigger was how long it will take to have developers putting a rom together that I can abandoned all tings Google. I'm currently on a Nexus 6p with no GApps, running a secured kernel and ROM, FDroid, Amazon, and side loading for apps. I want to get to the same place on this sucker. I'm not developer enough to make my own ROM. Though the idea of building from source seems like a fun challenge.
I think my biggest hesitation is in how they worded the return policy. "Disabling security features" warrants denied return. I wonder if this means the device will be permanently altered by unlocking the bootloader - eg.. Sony with wiping the TA partition permanently degrading photo quality, or Samsung and the knox crap.
Obviously I wouldn't unlock the bootloader in the 15 day return window - but I want to be able to unlock the bootloader at SOME point with the option to put it back to stock without marring the device.
So many questions, so few answers..
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You're putting a lot of weight into Andy Rubin's name being involved and he really has done nothing to earn that weight, in my opinion.
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He's done nothing? He only co-founded the biggest cellular phone operating system ever. Besides that, also co-founded another couple of million/billion dollar companies. I would put a little weight, maybe more than a little into something he has touched. Just my opinion.
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You used Android under his ownership?
And the sub-companies under playground global are not exactly super successful.
I wouldn't say his name brings a whole lot to the table
Bought mine today. Ships within a week w/ 2-3 day Fedex; i'm hoping for delivery by Fri 25th, but i haven't gotten that email yet. No cases for it... hmm. I think they might be taking the durability factor a little far for there to be no cases available at launch. But I for one think Rubin's name brings a lot to the table and will be very surprised if the phone he's essentially (ha) staking his career on is a flop.
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You used Android under his ownership?
And the sub-companies under playground global are not exactly super successful.
I wouldn't say his name brings a whole lot to the table
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We get it, you're skeptical. You're more of a wait and see type of guy. Smart move.
Yeah I broke down and confirmed my reserved pre-order. If I hate it, I'll return it. A good 7-10 days of steady use should determine if it's a keeper. I think selling on swappa is not the way to go as I believe initial resale value will be low unless reviews are overwhelmingly positive. Time will tell!
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Does anyone know if this camera has portrait mode. May seem silly but I don't won't to lose that feature I have with my op5
Anyone know if the Sprint version is unlocked?

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