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I don't miss my iPhone ⁴ not a single bit!!!

When you came from iOS then switch to Android you are going to miss iOS because you are use to it, I almost returned this infuse 4g, but I gave it a shot, when you learn to use this thing it gets better and better every single day, customization is like never ending, when you press a link you have a choice which browser to choose, when you want to call, you can choose to use your minutes or use your data using google voice, and more Dev team case speed the OS it self, + more appetite to choose from and loving Amazon giving a way a paid apparently for free everyday, 4'5 screen yes browsing is a breeze remember 80% of using your smartphone is for browsing yahoo.
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I have an iPhone 4 as well and was hoping for the rumored "AmazonWireless all 4g phones free" sale hoping that the Infuse 4g would be free, but it wasn't meant to be
I can upgrade right now but I think I will wait until the galaxy s 2 comes out or the iPhone 5 to see if its worth it then.

You haven't seen anything yet.

I agree. I was a longtime iphone user who finally made the switch to android with the Infuse. At first I was missing certain aspects of my jailbroken iPhone 4, but it took less than a week until I was ready to sell it. I love the 4.5" screen. There is really only two things I miss about my iphone. The text with the retina display was amazing and if I had that on my 4.5" screen I would be in heaven. I also like the way iOS formats emails a lot better. Emails on the infuse are just a lot harder to view as u have to pan around them. I have tried a couple alternate email clients, but still haven't found one I care for.
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MikeyMike01 said:
You haven't seen anything yet.
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I love a confident Dev.
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scottyb0721 said:
I agree. I was a longtime iphone user who finally made the switch to android with the Infuse. At first I was missing certain aspects of my jailbroken iPhone 4, but it took less than a week until I was ready to sell it. I love the 4.5" screen. There is really only two things I miss about my iphone. The text with the retina display was amazing and if I had that on my 4.5" screen I would be in heaven. I also like the way iOS formats emails a lot better. Emails on the infuse are just a lot harder to view as u have to pan around them. I have tried a couple alternate email clients, but still haven't found one I care for.
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The Gmail client rocks if you use Gmail. For general mail (with push capability) K9 wins hands down. If you haven't tried K9, give it a whirl.
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b3asty said:
The Gmail client rocks if you use Gmail. For general mail (with push capability) K9 wins hands down. If you haven't tried K9, give it a whirl.
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I agree too much email on phone sucks battery life, unless you do the scheduled pushing, I quit my yahoo and use gmail I think 1 email is better than protecting 4 emails.
The only thing I want is the "3g unrestrictor apps" on iOs where you can fake apps that can be use only on wifi, unrestrict it making the apps think you are connected on wifi where in fact you are using 3g.
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One App I do miss on my iPhone is tone fx . It allowed you to easily juggle ringtones and notification sounds.
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I made the switch as well and don't think that I will ever look back. Regardless of what ios has to offer in the future I believe that android is just a better platform.

eroracing said:
One App I do miss on my iPhone is tone fx . It allowed you to easily juggle ringtones and notification sounds.
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You can change every single notification on android but not juggle.
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You can change every single notification on android but not juggle.
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Ya the ability to change notification sound out of the box is nice compared to ios but I really like the juggling especially for the ringtones. I used to have a bunch of 80's sitcom themes songs set to juggle for every call. Does any body know of a good App to do this? I tried a couple of them but niether worked very well.
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My last phone was a ipjone 3g. It's not a comprable phone, but just the OS alone has been enough to make me happy. With the added speed upgrade, it blows the iphone 3g out of the water.

Got my Infuse and iPhone 4 sittin here. Ive tried the Android switch several times and failed. Going to give the Infuse its fair shake though. Hoping for the best!

rjan22 said:
When you came from iOS then switch to Android you are going to miss iOS because you are use to it, I almost returned this infuse 4g, but I gave it a shot, when you learn to use this thing it gets better and better every single day, customization is like never ending, when you press a link you have a choice which browser to choose, when you want to call, you can choose to use your minutes or use your data using google voice, and more Dev team case speed the OS it self, + more appetite to choose from and loving Amazon giving a way a paid apparently for free everyday, 4'5 screen yes browsing is a breeze remember 80% of using your smartphone is for browsing yahoo.
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I agree, I went from iPhone 4 to Android. The only thing I would like to see is better battery life and build quality out of the Android phone line. It always seems like my iPhone lasted forever, and was so rugged, and Android phones feel so plasticy and cheap, and the battery goes soooo fast.
With that said, iOS is like going back in time when using after Android. Sure Android has it's issues, but remember it's only 2 years young, so it's to be expected. I love things like how it adds facebook feeds to a user contact card, and little things like turning the phone upside down to mute a call. Really stuff that just works... it's great.
Welcome from another iPhone 4 convert, hehe

bella92108 said:
I agree, I went from iPhone 4 to Android. The only thing I would like to see is better battery life and build quality out of the Android phone line. It always seems like my iPhone lasted forever, and was so rugged, and Android phones feel so plasticy and cheap, and the battery goes soooo fast.
With that said, iOS is like going back in time when using after Android. Sure Android has it's issues, but remember it's only 2 years young, so it's to be expected. I love things like how it adds facebook feeds to a user contact card, and little things like turning the phone upside down to mute a call. Really stuff that just works... it's great.
Welcome from another iPhone 4 convert, hehe
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I agree better battery life I can over with that. One thing I hate with infuse takes 3-4hrs to charge on stock charger, I'm using 1amp charger now and still just a little bit under 3hrs. Hope I can find a 1hr fast charger. I bought an extra battery and deskcharger hope it solve my issue, I always stream Justin.TV movies lol
Turning upside down really muted the call? Haven't tried that. Do I need another app for that? Wow I keep discovering new apps. I'll try that. Like Chumly always say AWESOME.
Any link for more info like this. I'm like ¹ week on android so I'm learning.
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rjan22 said:
Turning upside down really muted the call? Haven't tried that. Do I need another apparently for that? Wow I keep discovering new apps. I'll try that. Like Chumly always say AWESOME.
Any link for mire info like this. I'm like ¹ week on android so I'm learning.
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HAHA, you're funny and your post cracked me up with each sentence. I love it!
When a call comes in, flip the phone over onto it's face-down, and the phone will stop ringing. You'll also notice that if the phone is ringing and you pick it up to see who it is, it detects it's being fondled and turns down the ringer since you obviously know you have a call at that point. There's also a purse mode, so if you have it in a purse or pocket, it knows, and will crank up the ringer on it's own.
I too continue to discover cool stuff.... there's really no central repository for "cool stuff" but rather a bunch of different things around the net you can search for that'll give some cool tips and tricks. Android is fast evolving, so each tick they come out with gives a few more cool features. I bought this phone along with 2 friends, and I'm always hearing "did you see it can do this..." so as they find things they let me know. It's amazing how much they packed into an OS... makes iOS seem primitive, at best, hehe.
Chumley wouldn't be a good fit for a smartphone, he loves fried chicken and the screen would look like it'd gotten deep fried, hehe. I've never seen someone actually use a Chumley reference on here.... kudos! hehe

I went from an iPhone 4 to a Motorola Atrix for a little over a month. Couldn't stand Motoblur so I went back to an iPhone 4. I had a Captivate but didn't like a few things about it. I sold my iPhone 4 for $450 and bought my Infuse of some guy on Craigslist for $400.
I'm loving my Infuse so far, the size has really grown on me. I don't think I can ever get a phone under 4" again. Email sucks on Android if using email other than Gmail, but there are so many things that I enjoy on my Infuse more!

rivlez said:
I went from an iPhone 4 to a Motorola Atrix for a little over a month. Couldn't stand Motoblur so I went back to an iPhone 4. I had a Captivate but didn't like a few things about it. I sold my iPhone 4 for $450 and bought my Infuse of some guy on Craigslist for $400.
I'm loving my Infuse so far, the size has really grown on me. I don't think I can ever get a phone under 4" again. Email sucks on Android if using email other than Gmail, but there are so many things that I enjoy on my Infuse more!
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Congrats on the migration. It's funny how many people did the same as you, went Atrix because of the marketing hype. I have never personally used it, but I haven't been a Motorola fan since they killed the quality of production after StarTac.
i too agree the size is amazing. I always said anything more than 4" would be too big but now that I have a 4.5" it really is nice. I find that I text\web browse 95% of the time, and rarely use the phone, so the screen size is the #1 feature.
Regarding mail, I had the same sentiments as you, but quickly realized I was wrong. The phone has activesync built in, so first thing I did was delete the gMail client and use the mail app. You'll need an email that supports it (gmail does using exchange server "m.google.com"), or there's a plethora of other non-gmail providers that do it as well. I used to use GoDaddy's Secureserver.net hosted email, but they charge 30.00 a year for hosted IMAP, and $50 a year for activesync, and to me that's just not worth the cost. So I switched all of my domains over to Google Apps. They host your email (you pay $10 a year for the domain to godaddy) then google hosts the activesync email server, and the best part is it's FREE. It's far better than my iPhone mail experience, you just have to have a little know how to set it up, modify MX records, but google's help section makes it super easy to feel your way through it.
Best of luck.

bella92108 said:
HAHA, you're funny and your post cracked me up with each sentence. I love it!
When a call comes in, flip the phone over onto it's face-down, and the phone will stop ringing. You'll also notice that if the phone is ringing and you pick it up to see who it is, it detects it's being fondled and turns down the ringer since you obviously know you have a call at that point. There's also a purse mode, so if you have it in a purse or pocket, it knows, and will crank up the ringer on it's own.
I too continue to discover cool stuff.... there's really no central repository for "cool stuff" but rather a bunch of different things around the net you can search for that'll give some cool tips and tricks. Android is fast evolving, so each tick they come out with gives a few more cool features. I bought this phone along with 2 friends, and I'm always hearing "did you see it can do this..." so as they find things they let me know. It's amazing how much they packed into an OS... makes iOS seem primitive, at best, hehe.
Chumley wouldn't be a good fit for a smartphone, he loves fried chicken and the screen would look like it'd gotten deep fried, hehe. I've never seen someone actually use a Chumley reference on here.... kudos! hehe
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I agree its like so much more to discover.
LOL just wondering if someone knows who he is here LOL, turns out someone even have his picture on his phone lmao,
He's funny though although we know that's his role in the series.
To be funny by being dumb, sometimes I even think is he really that good acting as dumb or its all natural. What do you think?
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rjan22 said:
I agree its like so much more to discover.
LOL just wondering if someone knows who he is here LOL, turns out someone even have his picture on his phone lmao,
He's funny though although we know that's his role in the series.
To be funny by being dumb, sometimes I even think is he really that good acting as dumb or its all natural. What do you think?
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It's got to be an act. You know he's at home writing a master's thesis on globalization as a result of the chinese influence on the world. HAHA. Based strictly on appearance, I do think he likes fried chicken in real life.

O.R.B Bluetooth Ring

This is probably one of the neatest things I've seen.
http://hybratech.com/products/orb.php#
It's not out yet but It looks like it'll be pretty interesting when it does.

Looks nice, but I have to remain skeptical about this one.
I've used Jawbone Bluetooth headsets before that used bone conductivity technology and was not impressed. And those Jawbone units were built larger and had an actual earpiece to help keep it in place. Twisting it constantly won't be good for it either. Sometimes with Bluetooth earpieces smaller isn't always better. Maybe it will work well, but I can't see how.

I think the message when you receive a text scrolling across it in ring form is one of the neatest features.
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DraconicSeed said:
I think the message when you receive a text scrolling across it in ring form is one of the neatest features.
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Definitely neat. I don't know how easy it would be to read on a ring though. I am thinking about getting one of the watches that will do similar (not a Bluetooth ear piece though) but I think it would be easier to read on a watch. I am going to let them iron the wrinkles out of the watches before a seriously look at them. The ring idea has potential, but it will be interesting to see how it works in a real world setting.

No exaggeration, I read about this and followed it's development almost 5 years ago. I wouldn't hold your breath. I think it is just fishing for email addresses now.

I wonder if this also works with music... If It does.... Then it will be godly.

DraconicSeed said:
This is probably one of the neatest things I've seen.
http://hybratech.com/products/orb.php#
It's not out yet but It looks like it'll be pretty interesting when it does.
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"Deluxe models feature an e-ink display [...]"
SHUT UP AND TAKE MY GODDAMNED MONEY.

Do we have a browser yet?

I know this isn't Android anymore, but has anyone pulled/ported the stock Tizen browser from Tizen OS? I assume it would be easy enough to sideload this to the device via USB Debugging, right?

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I know this isn't Android anymore, but has anyone pulled/ported the stock Tizen browser from Tizen OS? I assume it would be easy enough to sideload this to the device via USB Debugging, right?
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Sounds easy and it might be but, we don't have a keyboard yet anyways. Hopefully when the fleksy keyboard comes out there will be more useful apps.

Raul69.atl said:
Sounds easy and it might be but, we don't have a keyboard yet anyways. Hopefully when the fleksy keyboard comes out there will be more useful apps.
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While we wait, can you share what you think would be a useful scenario where pulling up a webpage on a tiny watchscreen will be more convenient than just pulling out your phone and doing it that way? I'm really curious and maybe you have a great idea I haven't considered.

Some kind of situation when you want to check things without hands free? Checking live train times while carrying luggage or checking football scores while it's raining perhaps?
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Think a dev confirmed there is no external acess from the gear 2, only direct to phone, so this wouldn't work I would assume.
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root
That mean no root no rom no nothing for the gear 2????

From, not to.
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rEVOLVE said:
While we wait, can you share what you think would be a useful scenario where pulling up a webpage on a tiny watchscreen will be more convenient than just pulling out your phone and doing it that way? I'm really curious and maybe you have a great idea I haven't considered.
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Cheating on a test, of course. That's pretty much the only reason I'd want a watch browser.

bryanhayn said:
Cheating on a test, of course. That's pretty much the only reason I'd want a watch browser.
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Then maybe I should get started on the pdf reader I've been thinking about

dominoid said:
Some kind of situation when you want to check things without hands free? Checking live train times while carrying luggage or checking football scores while it's raining perhaps?
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Either of those scenarios you just mentioned are great, but voice commands w/ S Voice would be more useful (if it can even do this - I know Google Now can get me this info from my phone, but S Voice on the Gear currently just comes back and says "sorry, we couldn't find the answer to your question".
Also, if your hands are full, what makes you think that opening up and typing a web address on the watch's little screen will be "hands free"? You can't even interact with the watch without touching it with your other hand.

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I have finals tomorrow, hurry this up!
I keed

chalkycroissant said:
I have finals tomorrow, hurry this up!
I keed
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Off topic-
Try a TI-89, works great!

BJSerpas said:
Off topic-
Try a TI-89, works great!
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I do have one, and it worked great in Highschool. Sadly, my college wont let use graphing calculators on tests

dominoid said:
Some kind of situation when you want to check things without hands free? Checking live train times while carrying luggage or checking football scores while it's raining perhaps?
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How would you navigate an app or browser without using you hands/fingers? Your football score scenario is already accomplished via ESPNs Score Center app. It can be configured to send notifications based on team preferences (i.e. notify of scoring plays during your fav team games).
And now that I think about it, if only the Google Maps app could be configured to send turn-by-turn notifications, we would sort of have GPS on our Gears.

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How would you navigate an app or browser without using you hands/fingers? Your football score scenario is already accomplished via ESPNs Score Center app. It can be configured to send notifications based on team preferences (i.e. notify of scoring plays during your fav team games).
And now that I think about it, if only the Google Maps app could be configured to send turn-by-turn notifications, we would sort of have GPS on our Gears.
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oh I forgot about the turn by turn functionality - Pebbles can do this, even though I never got a chance to use it since my phone is mounted on my dashboard. Would be useful when walking in a city, though - without keeping your phone out. The problem of course is the watchscreen turns off again and you have to touch the watch and navigate to the app again to see the next direction.

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oh I forgot about the turn by turn functionality - Pebbles can do this, even though I never got a chance to use it since my phone is mounted on my dashboard. Would be useful when walking in a city, though - without keeping your phone out. The problem of course is the watchscreen turns off again and you have to touch the watch and navigate to the app again to see the next direction.
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Yep, and shortly after I posted this I came up with an article about that Pebble feature... however, it seems it is limited to the iOS version of Google Maps because it is able to send normal push notifications for each turn.

Worth it to buy?

So I have that urge to buy something new and I've stumbled across the sony SW2 in my looking around and I was wondering if this would be worth it to buy? Those of you who have had one for a while, do you think I should get one?

I think it all depends on its use per the individual, it is very handy for me when I'm at work and in a meeting I can see who's calling and read messages etc and also when I'm on my motorbike also saves me having to pull out my phone to see whoa calling messages etc. I would say though if you have a Samsung phone then probably have a look at the gear
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look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2747483

If you can get it for less than $150, that's a decent price... However, there's LG's and Moto's watches coming out this summer if you can wait a few months - but those are rumored to be around $250.

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So I have that urge to buy something new and I've stumbled across the sony SW2 in my looking around and I was wondering if this would be worth it to buy? Those of you who have had one for a while, do you think I should get one?
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Yes.

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Yes.
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If you need a device to remote control your smartphone, then yes you should get it. If you are happy just taking your phone out of your pocket and using it, then you dont need the Sony Smartwatch 2. It is not an indepedent device. It can do almost nothing by itself, it is 99% dependent on your phone.
The best way to describe it is that it is a second screen to your smartphone. To be able to use it you must have your smartphone on you, at all times. It not autonomous working at all.

Hi all,
can this Sony SW2 keep the time by itself if I go running to the park and leave my phone at home? Just keep the time.
I know it would be more useful to take the phone in my pocket and probably try to have an Endomondo's Sports Tracker widget on the smartwatch.. does anyone knows about a good sports tracking app like Endomondo's ?
Thanks.

Sure, why not. It's only money.
I have had mine for 8 months and love it. I had not worn a watch in perhaps 20 years. (I'm a reformed pocket watch user.) If you like to know who is emailing and testing when it happens, covertly, it is great. There are other things it is great at too, but those are the #1 use. I like the color screen v.s. monochrome screens, but battery life suffers. Price is reasonable, relatively speaking, but if you are an Android user and have a little more $$, I'd wait until summer to see what the new Google based watches bring. They appear to be a step up. The only thing I'd wish for is voice transcription to reply to email or text and I believe that's coming in the Google OS watches.
spitfire2425 said:
So I have that urge to buy something new and I've stumbled across the sony SW2 in my looking around and I was wondering if this would be worth it to buy? Those of you who have had one for a while, do you think I should get one?
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Socotroco said:
Hi all,
can this Sony SW2 keep the time by itself if I go running to the park and leave my phone at home? Just keep the time.
I know it would be more useful to take the phone in my pocket and probably try to have an Endomondo's Sports Tracker widget on the smartwatch.. does anyone knows about a good sports tracking app like Endomondo's ?
Thanks.
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Yes it can. And your SW2 comes with Runtastic, which is pretty okay for me.

Sw1 can keep time only till it has battery or has not been switched off. If you switch it off or battery finishes, you need to connect it again with your phone to get time.
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i buy it but it was not good and have not worth to buy

I'm waiting for my SW2 FIFA Edition to use it mainly as a bike computer, but also because will allow me to receive calls with the phone on my pocket.
And it have a good price now.
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joaofsantosj said:
I'm waiting for my SW2 FIFA Edition to use it mainly as a bike computer, but also because will allow me to receive calls with the phone on my pocket.
And it have a good price now.
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Not on your Nexus it doesnt..... it doesnt have an answer call button, though theres a fix if you are rooted.
Also it has no speaker or mic so youd need a bt headset. Which can already be used to answer calls.

ngoonee said:
Not on your Nexus it doesnt..... it doesnt have an answer call button, though theres a fix if you are rooted.
Also it has no speaker or mic so youd need a bt headset. Which can already be used to answer calls.
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Naturally, I have a BT headset. I've been using them since they exist.
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joaofsantosj said:
Naturally, I have a BT headset. I've been using them since they exist.
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Note that you cannot answer from the watch, in any case, using a galaxy nexus.

ngoonee said:
Note that you cannot answer from the watch, in any case, using a galaxy nexus.
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Really? And why do you think that?
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joaofsantosj said:
Really? And why do you think that?
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Because the calling app that Sony offers to you onli offers the 'answer call' button on Sony phones. Unless you move it to the system partition, which requires root.

briannaharbor said:
How is it possible you joined six years ago, but only have five posts??
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LOL It's a fair question, I joined this forum when I have a Qtek 2200 (made by HTC and also known under the brands XDA, O2), and after a Qtek 2020i, and used this forum just to get some informations. When this devices become obsolete I bought a Samsung Galaxy S5830 but I didn't like the Froyo GUI so I change to iOS devices that aren't supported here. But since a few months ago I become tired of it, always the same and without big changes, and planned to switch again to android that had a big improvement since froyo and its know more appealing to use.
One of the thing that I found out immediately was the different ROM's available to install, and I have been playing with them in my devices.
So it's natural that now I had reasons to post, to clear my doughts.
I don't use to write just to make number, I hope that you'll be clear.
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ngoonee said:
Because the calling app that Sony offers to you onli offers the 'answer call' button on Sony phones. Unless you move it to the system partition, which requires root.
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I see in the call extension app description that "answer call" is for Xperia Only. I have a rooted HTC One M8, but I did not move the app to the system partition (I doubled checked just to be sure); however, I can answer calls with my Sony Smartwatch 2. Not sure if it is because I am rooted or not, but I wanted to pass along my experience with my phone and the call extension app in question.
Rob

I've found that the lack of a 'Call Accept' button is not a major deal breaker for the Call Extension program. Wired or BT headsets have the action button, so the SW2 is still good. PLUS, with the recent upgrades to the core program, it's perfect to setup for a 'idling watch-face' that contains the pertinent information that I need.
Remember, the watch will allow you to tuck the phone back into the pocket or holster and leave it there. I myself enjoy starting an album as I leave the house to catch my bus for work, then just use the SmartMote Extension to change the song or tweak the volume on the sly.
Oh, and with the phone settings extension I found, I can cut the phone's Wi-Fi when I leave a well, so it doesn't draw extra power looking for a connection - without going fully into the watch apps, because it's latext update puts a shortcut directly into the watch-face itself!
Yeah, I'd recommend getting this watch, if you need a new watch. Once you have it, you find reasons to have it.... (Not the least, because it reduces the need to turn on the phone every five minutes to check it.)

Well, maybe back to Android Wear

Just updated my Huawei to AW 1.4 (Marshmallow), and now have calling capabilities on my wrist. For me, this is a high-value feature, and the reason I put the AW watch back in the drawer after 6 weeks with it and went back to Gear, buying a Sport 3G. I've since upgraded to a Classic 3G (Verizon, always hated the swatchy sport) to have calling features again (I've been on Gears since the first one).
No standalone 3G may still send me back to Gear S2 in the next days or week or two, but we'll see. Everything else on the AW platform is so superior (with a few exceptions), and of course "OK Google" -- the functionality, accuracy, etc. of this feature alone is almost enough to keep me from going back. May turn out to be enough.
It's sad. Samsung, IMO, has made a huge strategic error in failing to make S-Voice a higher priority. The customer base has been complaining from the beginning with the first Gear, years ago. Back then, "OK Google" was far more rudimentary, error-prone, etc. In that time, Google has invested enormous resources in making this "personal assistant" actually useful rather than annoying. Something you actually think about invoking to do something, because, like flipping a lightswitch, it "just works".
I think these voice-activated, hands-free "assistant" features are going to become the sine qua non of "wearables" in very short order. Samsung, with their neglect of S-voice are going to find themselves stuck in an uncompetitive posture regardless of how innovative their hardware and UI inventions are. The rotating bezel is cool, and it is a better way to do things than swiping around; however, simply telling your watch what to do while your hands are occupied (like driving) is far, far more useful.
Anyway, I'll post again in a week or so to reflect my plusses/minuses going back... I have a feeling I'll put the S2 back on my wrist, just because of the 3G -- I've come to really depend on that luxury, forgetting my phone somewhat regularly (or deliberately leaving it behind). I created a Tasker task that sends me a notification when the watch disconnects from BT to remind me to forward calls. Works great if I forget my phone. Once the 3/4G AW watches hit the street, I'm gone from Gear. Samsung clearly isn't going to improve S-voice.

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There are already 4G AW watches.
I am torn, AW is a larger ecosystem, but Tizen is a more robust system, it has actual apps that run independent of the phone (though not as many as I'd like). It's different, but honestly each are good in there own way, it's an opinion as to which is best.
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There are already 4G AW watches.
I am torn, AW is a larger ecosystem, but Tizen is a more robust system, it has actual apps that run independent of the phone (though not as many as I'd like). It's different, but honestly each are good in there own way, it's an opinion as to which is best.
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I tried the LG urbane 2 LTE. And it's awful. The gear has much better thought out 3g implementation. Even with Ok google, I returned the LG and went back to my s2.

Well, that didn't take long. One day.
The phone implementation is buggy, and the UI awkward.
I missed the Gear's much more sensible, usable UI for SMS/MMS immediately, the general notification mechanism and UI, and many more usage aspects that are routine every day with a smartwatch.
Then there was the 3G... my Huawei doesn't have a cell radio, so I couldn't compare apples/apples, and unteather. Still, that narrow feature/capability wouldn't be any different -- i.e. being away from the phone. The calling UI operates the same regardless, and that's what I found annoying.
Of course, the digital assistant ("OK Google") was brilliant, almost enough to make me suffer with the other problems. For now, I'll stay with the S2, and see how AW bakes over the next six months. Those damn cards are one of the most annoying "features" of all.

Very interested in the Tasker app you described above. Would you mind sharing the details please?

Pinmac said:
Very interested in the Tasker app you described above. Would you mind sharing the details please?
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Yeah, I mentioned this in another thread, and was asked to share.
I need to polish one piece of it before I share (the automatic notification when you're back in BT range to remind you about the Forward All), then I'll zip up the profile and tasks and post it.
Not at the top of my list, though, so don't expect anything for a few days, maybe a week.

That's great, thanks. No tearing hurry, I'm using the Brrr app which does a pretty good job but am interested in other options.

Heard from standalone apps in wear at Google io this week.
It's the same for me. I had aw from the beginning and switched to gear s2 in autumn last year. There are pros and cons in both systems. After a few month now with the gear I feel the urge to go back to wear after the new features where announced this week. I'm probably going to wait till fall when the updates actually hit. And maybe hope to see similar feature like the bezel navigation. I absolutely love this. But also miss the hands free navigation from aw.
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donky kong 017 said:
Heard from standalone apps in wear at Google io this week.
It's the same for me. I had aw from the beginning and switched to gear s2 in autumn last year. There are pros and cons in both systems. After a few month now with the gear I feel the urge to go back to wear after the new features where announced this week. I'm probably going to wait till fall when the updates actually hit. And maybe hope to see similar feature like the bezel navigation. I absolutely love this. But also miss the hands free navigation from aw.
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I'm waiting for the new Qualcomm wear chip in a device with cellular connectivity. I'm intrigued by the stand-alone apps and I do miss setting timers with Google voice (I have kids and enjoy cooking so those are 2 times timers come in handy lol).
If Samsung gave us SamsungPay on the watch I'd be more reluctant to switch to AW though.
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I'm waiting for the new Qualcomm wear chip in a device with cellular connectivity. I'm intrigued by the stand-alone apps and I do miss setting timers with Google voice (I have kids and enjoy cooking so those are 2 times timers come in handy lol).
If Samsung gave us SamsungPay on the watch I'd be more reluctant to switch to AW though.
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Yeah the voice controls were excellent on aw that's true even in German it worked very good.
The pay options are not available neither from Sammy nor from Android here. So thats not important. Although I would love to have those options
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The pay options are not available neither from Sammy nor from Android here. So thats not important. Although I would love to have those options
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Aye, neither here in the US, if either had it in would be using that system lol.
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Aye, neither here in the US, if either had it in would be using that system lol.
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in the u.s. its a little better though. in foreign counties one have to wait for ages for some Services (e.g. no podcasts in gpm) or we won't get them at all. Voice control and assistance is a bad topic all the time.
sometimes i think all the fancy gadgets i buy are just worth half the money cause i can use just half the features.

donky kong 017 said:
in the u.s. its a little better though. in foreign counties one have to wait for ages for some Services (e.g. no podcasts in gpm) or we won't get them at all. Voice control and assistance is a bad topic all the time.
sometimes i think all the fancy gadgets i buy are just worth half the money cause i can use just half the features.
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I feel your pain. I travel for 6-8 out of months every 18. A lot of things don't work even for Americans while outside the US. I was paying for Google play music (should be getting youtube red) but youtube red only worked in the US, felt like I was not getting what I paid for.
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It's utterly ridiculous that completely innocuous "internet things" don't simply work anywhere one has an (unrestricted -- think China) internet connection.
It's all about mandarins. They must have control over you simply to have control.
About the timer: There is a rather nice timer app on the watch, and it can easily be invoked via S-Voice. Just say, "set timer 15 minutes", and it will set and start the timer app for 15 minutes.
I use it all the time. No meaningful difference from AW, other than S-Voice is, of course, not as reliable in reading your voice in the first place.

I'm not trying to launch nuclear missiles or solve the national debt from my watch. I want a face that looks like i want it to, the data I need, battery that lasts at least one waking day, and that's about it. And the GS2 does that. Does another? Maybe, but I HAVE the GS2. I've found that the more whistles and bells on anything and the less reliable it is.

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It's sad. Samsung, IMO, has made a huge strategic error in failing to make S-Voice a higher priority.
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I don't get why they can't see that a well functioning S-Voice will make or break wearables for the company. Its that simple.

There are parts of my Motorola 360 I miss however the battery life on the GS2 is absolutely phenomenal. I have had it on since 730 this morning. It's now nearly 2200 and it's only at 80%.
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There are parts of my Motorola 360 I miss however the battery life on the GS2 is absolutely phenomenal. I have had it on since 730 this morning. It's now nearly 2200 and it's only at 80%.
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S-Voice has never worked for me, it always just says "please try again later"

For those of you who have a 3G version of the Gear S2 and don't want to fuss with manually call forwarding anymore, allow me to recommend an option many seem to have forgotten over the last couple of years: Google Voice
I've been using GV for years as the VM on my phone. Now, I have added the Gear S2 3G as another phone on my GV account. This gives two great benefits:
1. Calls automatically forward from phone-to-watch OR watch-to-phone if I don't answer on the originally called device, eliminating the need to enable and disable call forwarding phone-to-watch manually and giving a two-way solution if I leave the watch at home for a change.
2. Gives one unified voicemail box for both my phone and watch numbers. While only a few important people have my watch number for emergency purposes, I don't want people to have to remember multiple numbers to call or worry they are leaving a VM in the "box I rarely check."
To forward the watch's calls, just follow Google Voice's instructions with the manual call forwarding dial codes for your carrier and dial them on your watch AFTER you set the number up in your GV account. And, of course, this is only going to work for those who live in a country GV services (US & Canada, I believe). If you are outside the US & Canada, I'm sorry that I have no similar alternative to offer you.