I was wondering if its worthy for me to upgrade to the XZ Premium. Im currently using a Z2 with a permanently locked bootloader in other words I cant unlock it. I do have ExistenZ rom installed which is nice. Im just wondering is it worth spending the extra to go from a Z2 to an XZ Premium? Its only really software interface changes that I will use the most but is that very worthy alongside the hardware upgrades? Or am I better off saving the money and continuing with my Z2? The Z2 was one of the best Xperias for a long time and still can be said to be but im unsure whether its worthy to upgrade now.
All help on this decision will be appreciated. Thanks.
I upgraded from the Z2 to the Z5C. Mainly for the fingerprint support and the (supposedly) better processor. Only 10 months in to my Z5C, I decided to upgrade to the XZ Premium. Support for the Z2 ended back in 2015(?). so yes, I do recommend upgrading to the XZ Premium. I usually upgrade phones every 2 years, so the XZP will have to do me good for the time being. I'm happy with the phone and I love it!
I did consider other options like the Samsung S8, but after comparing the two (borrowed one from my friend), I settled on the XZP. Plus, it's faster than the s8.
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I upgraded from the Z2 to the Z5C. Mainly for the fingerprint support and the (supposedly) better processor. Only 10 months in to my Z5C, I decided to upgrade to the XZ Premium. Support for the Z2 ended back in 2015(?). so yes, I do recommend upgrading to the XZ Premium. I usually upgrade phones every 2 years, so the XZP will have to do me good for the time being. I'm happy with the phone and I love it!
I did consider other options like the Samsung S8, but after comparing the two (borrowed one from my friend), I settled on the XZP. Plus, it's faster than the s8.
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Thank you for the decision. Its only price thats an issue for me the XZ Premium in the UK is around £500 ($650) cheapest so I want sure if it was worth the money but it seems youve sort of answered that. I will always upgrade to another Sony phone because I always have and although other phones are great I like having all Sony things as you may tell from my signature. I will consider the purchase the only thing that will stop me is the price but other than that it seems a viable option I may very well go for. Thanks.
Edit: Theres also the possibility I purchase one with a permanently locked bootloader like my Z2 so I should take that into consideration too otherwise no root unlike older Xperias where root could be done on locked bootloader.
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Thank you for the decision. Its only price thats an issue for me the XZ Premium in the UK is around £500 ($650) cheapest so I want sure if it was worth the money but it seems youve sort of answered that. I will always upgrade to another Sony phone because I always have and although other phones are great I like having all Sony things as you may tell from my signature. I will consider the purchase the only thing that will stop me is the price but other than that it seems a viable option I may very well go for. Thanks.
Edit: Theres also the possibility I purchase one with a permanently locked bootloader like my Z2 so I should take that into consideration too otherwise no root unlike older Xperias where root could be done on locked bootloader.
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Where did you purchase your Z2? I'm pretty sure the units on Amazon have an unlockable bootloader. I suggest you purchase one from there? Or if you prefer going to the store, I guess you can check if the demo phones have unlockable bootloaders.
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Where did you purchase your Z2? I'm pretty sure the units on Amazon have an unlockable bootloader. I suggest you purchase one from there? Or if you prefer going to the store, I guess you can check if the demo phones have unlockable bootloaders.
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I purchased it from Gumtree because money was also an issue then. I managed to get it for £220 in Feb 2015. The seller got it from Vodafone and I had to unlock the sim as Iam on another network which is why the bootloader is locked. On amazon the XZ premium is £610 but ive found one on eBay for £500 that says its from Amazon. There are cheaper dual variants on eBay but I dont think theyre UK models. It seems if the phone is purchased from EE or o2 in the UK then it will have a locked bootloader so I think I shouldnt have too much trouble. Thanks.
Hi, I bought it 4 days ago, my previous phone is Z2. I realy like XZ Premium. Also i will upload on my YouTube channel comparison between this two phones.
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Hi, I bought it 4 days ago, my previous phone is Z2. I realy like XZ Premium. Also i will upload on my YouTube channel comparison between this two phones.
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What kind of config did you use on your Z2? Was it stock or did you have a custom rom and xposed? Thanks
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What kind of config did you use on your Z2? Was it stock or did you have a custom rom and xposed? Thanks
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Now I have stock rom on Z2, but I used costume roms try oc, optimizing but all in all for me stock is best no lags, no bags...
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Now I have stock rom on Z2, but I used costume roms try oc, optimizing but all in all for me stock is best no lags, no bags...
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I cant unlock my bootloader sadly so I cant oc which gives me more a reason to get an XZ Premium. Sounds like its a worthy upgrade though thanks for all the responses.
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I cant unlock my bootloader sadly so I cant oc which gives me more a reason to get an XZ Premium. Sounds like its a worthy upgrade though thanks for all the responses.
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Yeah I'm very pleased with the phone, I just recorded 4K video in my backyard for YouTube and is BOOM quality, I will upload it...
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Yeah I'm very pleased with the phone, I just recorded 4K video in my backyard for YouTube and is BOOM quality, I will upload it...
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I just ordered an XZ Premium now that I should recieve by the 6-8th September I will still keep my Z2 as a spare. I managed to snag it for £500 it retails for around £600 in the UK so I think I got a good deal and its new too. Hopefully it was worth waiting for a cheaper price to drop. Im sure I will be satisfied with the purchase also in the future when Sony drops support for it there will be more support for it on XDA.
Xpiera z2 was the best sony phone until XZ premium - so if you need a change, its the best moment.
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Xpiera z2 was the best sony phone until XZ premium - so if you need a change, its the best moment.
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Yeah I think ive made a good choice. Even the XZ was decent but its annoying how Sony release a new phone every 6 months. The XZ1 is the first Sony phone to actually be a bit of a downgrade to that of the previous flagship as its basically an XZ Premium with a 1080p display. Thats as far as im aware ive never seen Sony release a device like this before also if my purchase is legitimate then I will have snagged a bargain too.
One other thing I would like to know though is that does anyone run the device at native 4k all the time? If so is it worth doing and is there much of a difference? I read through the 4k thread but it seems to be mixed. Nobody really says its worth doing or not its kind of mixed. Also I dont really care if it affects battery life as long as its a worthy benefit.
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Yeah I think ive made a good choice. Even the XZ was decent but its annoying how Sony release a new phone every 6 months. The XZ1 is the first Sony phone to actually be a bit of a downgrade to that of the previous flagship as its basically an XZ Premium with a 1080p display. Thats as far as im aware ive never seen Sony release a device like this before also if my purchase is legitimate then I will have snagged a bargain too.
One other thing I would like to know though is that does anyone run the device at native 4k all the time? If so is it worth doing and is there much of a difference? I read through the 4k thread but it seems to be mixed. Nobody really says its worth doing or not its kind of mixed. Also I dont really care if it affects battery life as long as its a worthy benefit.
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I tried it for a bit and I don't think it's worth it.
Sure text looks smooth as a kindle but it makes the phone stutter every now and then.
It also causes some compatibility issues which seem far too inconvenient without a way to switch resolution on the go.
When I do want to use it (during VR), I'll just switch it then switch back.
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I tried it for a bit and I don't think it's worth it.
Sure text looks smooth as a kindle but it makes the phone stutter every now and then.
It also causes some compatibility issues which seem far too inconvenient without a way to switch resolution on the go.
When I do want to use it (during VR), I'll just switch it then switch back.
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Ah OK then so its nothing too major then guess ill be using the phone at its default until some mad mods are released for it if that ever happens. Thanks
I update z2 to xzp premium.
Xzp is a beast, when update Android oreo xzp it will be a beast x 10.
Here is video in 4K yesterday i recorded:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkxrTBy7LNQ
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Here is video in 4K yesterday i recorded:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkxrTBy7LNQ
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Wow this is great! Even by watching this on my Xperia Z2 it looks pretty nice and life like. I would watch it on a 4K TV/monitor but it looks good enough at 1080p on my Xperia Z2 screen. I can only imagine how good it would look on an actual 4K screen though I am tempted to have a look. The colours shown really show how vibrant they are and the auto focus is so much more superior to that of my Z2 just the fact it can focus that close. I cant wait to recieve it I just got confirmation and a tracking number that I should recieve it by Tuesday. Joke is this phone has a better screen than my 4K bravia as Sony dont wanna support HDR for it.
One thing I would like to know. Does the phone still record 120fps at 720p using timeshift video if its still called that or does is the resolution bumped up for 120fps since it supports upto 960fps? Just wondering because with the 960fps you cant pick where you want the slow motion and 720p only looks so good, would be beneficial if its 1080p over 720p and would only make sense since it can record up to a high framerate. Please let me know, thanks.
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Wow this is great! Even by watching this on my Xperia Z2 it looks pretty nice and life like. I would watch it on a 4K TV/monitor but it looks good enough at 1080p on my Xperia Z2 screen. I can only imagine how good it would look on an actual 4K screen though I am tempted to have a look. The colours shown really show how vibrant they are and the auto focus is so much more superior to that of my Z2 just the fact it can focus that close. I cant wait to recieve it I just got confirmation and a tracking number that I should recieve it by Tuesday. Joke is this phone has a better screen than my 4K bravia as Sony dont wanna support HDR for it.
One thing I would like to know. Does the phone still record 120fps at 720p using timeshift video if its still called that or does is the resolution bumped up for 120fps since it supports upto 960fps? Just wondering because with the 960fps you cant pick where you want the slow motion and 720p only looks so good, would be beneficial if its 1080p over 720p and would only make sense since it can record up to a high framerate. Please let me know, thanks.
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Here is screenshot :highfive: :good:
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Here is screenshot :highfive: :good:
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Does the top one work like timeshift video? Also I was wondering if the resolution is the same for all or different for 120fps. Thanks.
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Hello there. I've been considering these days to buy this device but lately I'm getting really discouraged to do so. I watched at least a dozen videos about the j and at least as many reviews. A couple of them praise the device for its display and okay performance for this price but most of the reviews are strongly negative and some even advise not to buy it at all. My mobile carrier offers me to buy Xperia J with a 2-year contract for 6 euro mothly without changing my plan. Is it a deal or I should reconsider it? I'm ot a tight budget and the only other option for this price range is Galaxy ace plus but I don't think I'll manage to live with its awful resolution.
Any opinions? Thanks
Better pick j over ace plus with its 2.3.6. Sure, theres negative reviews. But that will once you mod the phone. Bigger screen resolution always win over cheap smaller ones.
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Hello there. I've been considering these days to buy this device but lately I'm getting really discouraged to do so. I watched at least a dozen videos about the j and at least as many reviews. A couple of them praise the device for its display and okay performance for this price but most of the reviews are strongly negative and some even advise not to buy it at all. My mobile carrier offers me to buy Xperia J with a 2-year contract for 6 euro mothly without changing my plan. Is it a deal or I should reconsider it? I'm ot a tight budget and the only other option for this price range is Galaxy ace plus but I don't think I'll manage to live with its awful resolution.
Any opinions? Thanks
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well if you're not the "hardcore mobile gamer type" and would just normally use the phone for call/text/internet/music plus some few movies then xperia j might be for you..forget galaxy ace plus...
I hate galaxys i bought an ace s5830i and the digitizer cracked very easily samsungs build quality is very poor even on there more reasont models ebay is full of wrecked galaxys the j is not that bad especialy for the price after a few mods it is very easy to live with. a duel core dose not mean better performance my partner has an xperia u and it is really bad worse than a stock j the screen redraws take a life time opening an app i even longer and multitasking forget about it lol.
muhmuhmuhmah said:
Hello there. I've been considering these days to buy this device but lately I'm getting really discouraged to do so. I watched at least a dozen videos about the j and at least as many reviews. A couple of them praise the device for its display and okay performance for this price but most of the reviews are strongly negative and some even advise not to buy it at all. My mobile carrier offers me to buy Xperia J with a 2-year contract for 6 euro mothly without changing my plan. Is it a deal or I should reconsider it? I'm ot a tight budget and the only other option for this price range is Galaxy ace plus but I don't think I'll manage to live with its awful resolution.
Any opinions? Thanks
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A lot of online reviews are for the older ICS version of Xperia J which wasn't great.
If your just using the phone, messaging, facebook, twitter etc.. It's fine and smooth as butter with the current Jelly Bean release.
If your into photo's, movies, netflix, gaming, then it's definitely not the phone for you.
dont go for ACE coz there will be a problem later on with its physical memory saying its full and u might not be able to install apps.. Xperia J just think about it.. i would rather buy Xperia L its kinda close to the budget !!!
Hey thanks for the answers. I really appreciate it
It will be my first mobile phone with Android so I really don't know what to expect exactly. I'll be using it for music, web-browsing, reading documents and snap a photo here or there. I am not a heavy gamer at all but I find it rather disappointing I won't be able to watch HD videos :/
I also read comments that with the new update most of the lag got fixed and it's more stable now.
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dont go for ACE coz there will be a problem later on with its physical memory saying its full and u might not be able to install apps.. Xperia J just think about it.. i would rather buy Xperia L its kinda close to the budget !!!
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L was just introduced to the market where I live at (Bulgaria) and the price is kinda high - 260 euros without contract. The problem is that I want to buy a phone from my carrier with leasing and their catalogue is very poor in terms of device choice. For the money J was the only reasonable phone I could pick out.
I could wait for Sony to release their Xperia M that was introduced a few hours ago because it has everything I could ask for. But I am in real need of a phone right now. I can wait but I've been waiting for moths already.
I still haven't decided firmly but if I don't reconsider my choice I'll be buying the J this Thursday
if that's the case then go for it !!!
so now that verizon has the sony xperia z3 and it seems like a pretty solid phone. just wondering what everyone else thinks about it? is anyone thinking about switching to it or waiting for the nexus 6 to come out?
Likely locked boot loader. What do you like about Z3?
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Likely locked boot loader. What do you like about Z3?
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yeah i figured it was going to be locked down. i don't know i really like the way it looks, i went to vzw store today and checked it out, its a little on the bigger side. i like the ps4 remote play option and yes i know we can get it on our phones now i just havent tried doing it yet. im on the vzw edge program and my htc one is already half way paid off so i wouldn't have to pay anything if i upgraded. just seeing what everyone else though of it
Well it actually isn't a true Z3... if you look at the naming, it's the Z3V which is the Verizon specific variant of this phone. Some people have been saying that this is just the Z2 with updated internals and such so that may be something to consider because Sony did some updates with the body and feel with the Z3. Look at reviews too, a lot of them are pretty biased but they still offer good info.
I am also intrigued by this phone, but not able to upgrade till Feb 1, hopefully more to choose from by then, maybe a true Z3c, tired of the big phones, smaller phone with great hardware is what is missing, and the ability to unlock the boot loader.
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Well it actually isn't a true Z3... if you look at the naming, it's the Z3V which is the Verizon specific variant of this phone. Some people have been saying that this is just the Z2 with updated internals and such so that may be something to consider because Sony did some updates with the body and feel with the Z3. Look at reviews too, a lot of them are pretty biased but they still offer good info.
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You're exactly right. It's got 32gb storage, instead of 16gb, and has wireless charging.
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I am also intrigued by this phone, but not able to upgrade till Feb 1, hopefully more to choose from by then, maybe a true Z3c, tired of the big phones, smaller phone with great hardware is what is missing, and the ability to unlock the boot loader.
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The problem with Sony phones is that unlocking the bootloader usually degrades the camera's image quality pretty significantly, because their proprietary camera drivers are disabled when the bootloader is unlocked.
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The problem with Sony phones is that unlocking the bootloader usually degrades the camera's image quality pretty significantly, because their proprietary camera drivers are disabled when the bootloader is unlocked.
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That has to be the stupidest idea ever. Why would they do that?! Lol
I have to say. I loved everything back in the day with Sony. The X10 was the first phone I got that was a smartphone but with HTC constantly being on the cutting edge with advancements in their products and build quality has really put me in a spot where I don't want anything different. Although when I first heard Verizon was getting the z3 I was excited. Then as stated above I found it to be a Z2 with a few upgrades. I don't know if I would waste my upgrade with the Z3V.
I am a sony fan for long years... Have owned z,z1,z2, and z3 for continuous years.
Now i want to buy z5 or z5 premium. The only thing that back me of from already buying one is the root status. I dont wanna loose the bionz and xreality from my sony phone. Also since the seller is offering 2 years warranty, unlocking it for root is just a bad idea.
But the sad fact is... I have been using android devices since 6 years, and using an android device with out root feels like using crappy "iphone" to me. Infact the second thing i do after buying any android phone is rooting it even before using it... Thats how much i want rooted status.
Sony just played a nasty trick on 2015 series as you all know.. No root with out unlock..?.
Still i hope we can achieve root some how, with out unlock, some day. But i was so tepmpted with z5 camera for now, that i cant resist myself in buying one, even if rooting it is still in baby phase.
So i want to ask the current owners of z5, or z5 premium, if you are loosing your picture clarity and xreality after rooting, also what about heat issue?
My other choices ( far away choices) are one two, and note 4.
So please give ur user experiences.
I would wait, Chainfire has rooted phones without triggering the kernel safe **** - which should allow us to backup our DRM keys, we just need an exploit to root with.
I've currently used 3 android phones with root and I nearly didn't buy the Z5 because of no LB root. However most functionality I am used to is already included in the stock ROM. Yes root (and xposed) would be nice but it isn't absolutely essential like I brought myself to believe.
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I've currently used 3 android phones with root and I nearly didn't buy the Z5 because of no LB root. However most functionality I am used to is already included in the stock ROM. Yes root (and xposed) would be nice but it isn't absolutely essential like I brought myself to believe.
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+1, I felt and feel exactly the same way
Lol.. I cant imagin an android device with out root, no matter how good it is... I am even willing ti void the warranty for it, but this bionz is all i cant miss... Even xreality is not that big deal... But what good is it, for buying a phone for its camera, and then loosing its camera quality by half!!
Why not try some extra like the nexus 5x?
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As i use mobile camera a lot.. I like good camera phones.. But i will still wait for android 6, to see if sony is willing to provide raw support. If not, then i will choose something else this time...
Bye for sony devices, got s6 edge plus . For that i have reasons
sony have played a dirty game with 2015 devices. With the new protection they introduced. I was willing to loose warranty and unlock the bootloader if i buy an z5, and i want z5 premium so badly.. but since unlocking bootloader will decrease the camera quality ,stops xreality, and stops the working of noise cancellation headphone, what good is z5 any more.
Ya i know samsung sucks.. still i dont have any choice. And this crappy phone is loaded with so many junks. I hate their os.
Sorry sony.. u just lost a loyal customer who loved you for 5 years..
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I am a sony fan for long years... Have owned z,z1,z2, and z3 for continuous years.
Now i want to buy z5 or z5 premium. The only thing that back me of from already buying one is the root status. I dont wanna loose the bionz and xreality from my sony phone. Also since the seller is offering 2 years warranty, unlocking it for root is just a bad idea.
But the sad fact is... I have been using android devices since 6 years, and using an android device with out root feels like using crappy "iphone" to me. Infact the second thing i do after buying any android phone is rooting it even before using it... Thats how much i want rooted status.
Sony just played a nasty trick on 2015 series as you all know.. No root with out unlock...
Still i hope we can achieve root some how, with out unlock, some day. But i was so tepmpted with z5 camera for now, that i cant resist myself in buying one, even if rooting it is still in baby phase.
So i want to ask the current owners of z5, or z5 premium, if you are loosing your picture clarity and xreality after rooting, also what about heat issue?
My other choices ( far away choices) are one two, and note 4.
So please give ur user experiences.
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Not sure what you are asking here, because from what I read you have already answered you own question. Root is such a big thing for you then right now don't buy the phone.
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showlyshah said:
Bye for sony devices, got s6 edge plus . For that i have reasons
sony have played a dirty game with 2015 devices. With the new protection they introduced. I was willing to loose warranty and unlock the bootloader if i buy an z5, and i want z5 premium so badly.. but since unlocking bootloader will decrease the camera quality ,stops xreality, and stops the working of noise cancellation headphone, what good is z5 any more.
Ya i know samsung sucks.. still i dont have any choice. And this crappy phone is loaded with so many junks. I hate their os.
Sorry sony.. u just lost a loyal customer who loved you for 5 years..
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Was going to buy this phone too, except no micro SD, big mistake IMO Samsung, so Z5 it ended up for me
I know there are similar threads about this but none answers my questions. Please help.
-What I know:
Full HD 5.2 inches vs Ultra HD 5.5 inches and battery a little bit bigger.
-What I want to know:
Which one will last longer without recharging, under the same usage?
Which one has more support by the XDA community? (apps, ROMs, tweaks, guides, etc)
Does any of them have a greater chance than the other of coming hardware problems?
-My focus here is a phone with a good amount of RAM (3GB+), waterproof, front stereo speakers and official support of at least Android Nougat.
Do you know any other phones that can meet these requirements?
Dont buy snapdragon 810 device
Unable to use in summer easily reach 55-60c in my country while using camera or 3d games
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Dont buy snapdragon 810 device
Unable to use in summer easily reach 55-60c in my country while using camera or 3d games
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Wow, that bad? :/ Can you recommend a similar phone that won't heat that much?
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Wow, that bad? :/ Can you recommend a similar phone that won't heat that much?
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Maybe if you live in a realy hot country, i had no issues here in Sweden.
And i suppose now with android 7 the heating problems will be solved for most users but with a cost of lower cpu frequancy.
But if you like to a phone with official support and upgrades you should stay away from z5, i think we might get 1-2 more upgrades.
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In my opinion, wait for XZ Premium, sir. You better check it out.
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Wow, that bad? :/ Can you recommend a similar phone that won't heat that much?
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Wait for xz premium or s8 plus
In my opinion,if you have to choose from z5 and z5p and you live snow country,the answer is z5p.
Z5p got 4k display, the back glass you gonna love it.
Same problem is S810 is suck,(the temperature will keep your hand warm,so you don't need to worry about how to survive in the winter)
The 4k not always.
Dude,MWC2017 ready to end.so XZP is will long?
Take the your time.
Thanks everyone. I'll look up XZ series.
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I know there are similar threads about this but none answers my questions. Please help.
-What I know:
Full HD 5.2 inches vs Ultra HD 5.5 inches and battery a little bit bigger.
-What I want to know:
Which one will last longer without recharging, under the same usage?
Which one has more support by the XDA community? (apps, ROMs, tweaks, guides, etc)
Does any of them have a greater chance than the other of coming hardware problems?
-My focus here is a phone with a good amount of RAM (3GB+), waterproof, front stereo speakers and official support of at least Android Nougat.
Do you know any other phones that can meet these requirements?
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Wait for Xiaomi..!
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Wait for Xiaomi..!
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Wait, which model?
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Wait, which model?
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Mi Six.
or view Mi Note Two : http://www.mi.com/en/minote2/
Dan_GM said:
I know there are similar threads about this but none answers my questions. Please help.
-What I know:
Full HD 5.2 inches vs Ultra HD 5.5 inches and battery a little bit bigger.
-What I want to know:
Which one will last longer without recharging, under the same usage?
Which one has more support by the XDA community? (apps, ROMs, tweaks, guides, etc)
Does any of them have a greater chance than the other of coming hardware problems?
-My focus here is a phone with a good amount of RAM (3GB+), waterproof, front stereo speakers and official support of at least Android Nougat.
Do you know any other phones that can meet these requirements?
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wait till end of april , buy xz premium ( 4gb ram)
however if you must buy
buy z5 E66xx
z5p don't have much roms and details! and z5p is phablet! big for hand.
YasuHamed said:
wait till end of april , buy xz premium ( 4gb ram)
however if you must buy
buy z5 E66xx
z5p don't have much roms and details! and z5p is phablet! big for hand.
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What do you think about XZ? (Not the premium)
Maybe the premium price will be too much.
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What do you think about XZ? (Not the premium)
Maybe the premium price will be too much.
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XZ has 3gb ram also! many variant some what all complementing each other. Xzcompat is only 4.7" and have 3gigs! awesome battery life.
only XZs and XZ-premium are packed with 4gb ram, x16 gigabit modem port to support higher 4G speeds. #wmc2017 awarded xzp the best smartphone 2017
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What do you think about XZ? (Not the premium)
Maybe the premium price will be too much.
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XZ is good, just buy it if you like, you can't race with technology, don't wait for it.
How about wait for XZP?
If you have choose,then is Z5P
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How about wait for XZP?
If you have choose,then is Z5P
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according to the replies I GOT in this post
https://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-premium/general/z5p-s-xzp-t3568142
XZP seems better w.r.t price and hardware
but remember as of now, everyone is comparing 18months of HANDS ON Experiance + various Updates of Z5P with a device yet to be welcomed by our hands
YasuHamed said:
according to the replies I GOT in this post
https://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-premium/general/z5p-s-xzp-t3568142
XZP seems better w.r.t price and hardware
but remember as of now, everyone is comparing 18months of HANDS ON Experiance + various Updates of Z5P with a device yet to be welcomed by our hands
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well,if some people don't have a lot of money,then Z5P still work it.
both 4K,maybe camera not better than XZP(at least Z5P don't have 1/960 ),battery...it maybe an issue.....but Z5P still good phone.
anyway.if you will expect you will get enought money to buy XZP ,then go get it.
but if you not?
pls spend your money for your life,you life more important your phone.
dcgkwm said:
well,if some people don't have a lot of money,then Z5P still work it.
both 4K,maybe camera not better than XZP(at least Z5P don't have 1/960 ),battery...it maybe an issue.....but Z5P still good phone.
anyway.if you will expect you will get enought money to buy XZP ,then go get it.
but if you not?
pls spend your money for your life,you life more important your phone.
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point well taken from the economic view! xperias are expensive but all flagship phones are expensive! and top of that any flagship fone of any brand running on android at any given time is always cheaper than iphone (in both price and fair trade) and still they are selling their phones all over the world way more than xperias...
i own z5p and trust me its beauty in your hands! and now since its almost 18 months of its release. you will find it way cheaper than before!
battery life of android N on z5p is not very good! but you keep your z5p on last android 6.0.1 build .305 (Dec2016). it works amazing!
YasuHamed said:
point well taken from the economic view! xperias are expensive but all flagship phones are expensive! and top of that any flagship fone of any brand running on android at any given time is always cheaper than iphone (in both price and fair trade) and still they are selling their phones all over the world way more than xperias...
i own z5p and trust me its beauty in your hands! and now since its almost 18 months of its release. you will find it way cheaper than before!
battery life of android N on z5p is not very good! but you keep your z5p on last android 6.0.1 build .305 (Dec2016). it works amazing!
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Yes.Z5P its beauty! No doubt with that.that even since it came out to now,i never change my mind.
What I try to say is could wait.after XZP on the market,the people get the chance to know it.bad or not,we will get a answer.at the same time is Z5P can use more low price to get it.
XZP or Z5P? You will know.good thing worth to wait.
And I am using Z5 dual gold(E6683).i am still waiting sony give me 7.0!!!
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Got a Xiaomi Redmi Note 8 for Christmas. Love it
DeblaGaming said:
Hello,
Im planning to buy a used Sony Xperia XZ Premium soon and I have a few Questions before im going to buy it.
1. Is it still good in 2019?
2. Any specific problem thats common on Used/New Devices (Like the Nexus 5X Manufacturing Problem etc.)
3. Any must have tips/things todo right after getting the device?
4. Can i trust Xperfirm and is the Auto Mode Officially Supported.
5. Anything to worry about before installing TWRP/Treble?
Kind Regards
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There r better options than de xz premium , if I was u I would go for the 1+ 6t
DeblaGaming said:
Hello,
Im planning to buy a used Sony Xperia XZ Premium soon and I have a few Questions before im going to buy it.
1. Is it still good in 2019?
2. Any specific problem thats common on Used/New Devices (Like the Nexus 5X Manufacturing Problem etc.)
3. Any must have tips/things todo right after getting the device?
4. Can i trust Xperfirm and is the Auto Mode Officially Supported.
5. Anything to worry about before installing TWRP/Treble?
Kind Regards
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1. For me, yes. I just purchased my second xz premium 2 months back and am extremely happy with it still. Even though it will not receive further official updates past android 9.
2. Not really, make sure the volume up and down work easily, and the speakers are not crackling. And turn it on and off to see if there is a message saying the bootloader is unlocked. If there is, offer a couple of bucks less. (Bear in mind, docomo branded and possibly others are not able to be unlocked)
3. If it has a locked bootloader still (and you no doubt want to unlock it ), there is a method to backup your .TA keys before unlocking, and restore them afterwards.
4. Xperifirm is 100% trustworthy, 1000's will agree. (What is automode?)
5. Nothing to worry about with twrp, everything works as expected.
Treble... Not so much. The XZ Premium does not have native treble. As it was released with nougat, it wasnt a requirement. There is a treble mod in the threads, but its definitely not daily driver material.
Beetle84 said:
1. For me, yes. I just purchased my second xz premium 2 months back and am extremely happy with it still. Even though it will not receive further official updates past android 9.
2. Not really, make sure the volume up and down work easily, and the speakers are not crackling. And turn it on and off to see if there is a message saying the bootloader is unlocked. If there is, offer a couple of bucks less. (Bear in mind, docomo branded and possibly others are not able to be unlocked)
3. If it has a locked bootloader still (and you no doubt want to unlock it ), there is a method to backup your .TA keys before unlocking, and restore them afterwards.
4. Xperifirm is 100% trustworthy, 1000's will agree. (What is automode?)
5. Nothing to worry about with twrp, everything works as expected.
Treble... Not so much. The XZ Premium does not have native treble. As it was released with nougat, it wasnt a requirement. There is a treble mod in the threads, but its definitely not daily driver material.
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Thank you for this awnser. With Question 4 I acually ment Xperifix and its Automatic Mode. Can I trust that Program? Also is 140€ good for a used one? (on ebay Kleinanzeigen Germany / aka Kajiji)
SilverGamer_YT said:
There r better options than de xz premium , if I was u I would go for the 1+ 6t
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Try to even find a OnePlus 3T for under 150€ in germany. Other than broken ones its impossible,and with other Phones ive looked at its the best one for the price.
DeblaGaming said:
Thank you for this awnser. With Question 4 I acually ment Xperifix and its Automatic Mode. Can I trust that Program? Also is 140€ good for a used one? (on ebay Kleinanzeigen Germany / aka Kajiji)
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Xperifix is also trustworthy, but exclusive to Oreo.
On android pie, the camera works normally, the green camera issue that xperifix fixed is no longer a problem.
As for the price im not sure, if it helps i bought a new one in the box from ebay for 420 australian dollars, and can pick up a decent second hand unit for 200 to 300 Australian.
1. Is it still good in 2019?
Yes, and if you're not a gamer, it is pretty easy for you to use this device until 5G is really a thing. Although 4GB RAM is not great even in 2016's standard, 835 is still a powerful chip and somebody informed me that there *are* certain people that modified their maple and installed more RAM.
2. Any specific problem thats common on Used/New Devices (Like the Nexus 5X Manufacturing Problem etc.)
The screen of this device is easily aged and sometimes will be damaged, so please double check before you make your purchase and DO NOT BUY ANY JAPAN CUSTOMIZED PHONE.
Oh and one more thing, unlocking this device can cause lose on some camera features. Please make sure that you have backed up your TA before you unlock. Instructions on how to do so can be found on XDA.
3. Any must have tips/things todo right after getting the device?
Unlock and flash TWRP+Magisk.
Personally I don't like all third party builds that can be found online so maybe I'll build one myself when time is right. As for now, I'm OK with stock ROM rooted.
4. Can i trust Xperfirm and is the Auto Mode Officially Supported.
Yes but I haven't been using Xperfirm for long so my opinion on this one can be ignored.
5. Anything to worry about before installing TWRP/Treble?
The latest TWRP build on twrp.me have some problems and on my Chinese ver. G8142, it can't R/W my data . On 3.2.3 however it is working fine.
If you buy a chrome version the plastic sides gets erased and looks cheap and bad. Buy a housing and a screen protector. And don't leave it under the sun, when it's hot. Summary: 1. Battery last up to 1 day, depending on the usage. 2. Cameras are great. With latest updates it has improved. 3. No lag. 4. Sound on speakers is really low. 5. Careful with the charger. After about 2 years of charging cable it is kind a loose. 6. Don't change the firmware or unlock the bootloader. Not worth it. Phone is quite capable. And Pie version of Android is clean.7. Connectivity is quite a topic. With speakers or watches is working perfectly. For Casting to TV, not so good. Maybe it depends on the TV.. Enjoy
I can sell you mine for 100€
nevenx said:
I can sell you mine for 100€
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seriously m8?
100 euro for this ?
i buy mine in september last year and until now very fast phone and very happy....
DeblaGaming said:
Hello,
Im planning to buy a used Sony Xperia XZ Premium soon and I have a few Questions before im going to buy it.
1. Is it still good in 2019?
2. Any specific problem thats common on Used/New Devices (Like the Nexus 5X Manufacturing Problem etc.)
3. Any must have tips/things todo right after getting the device?
4. Can i trust Xperfirm and is the Auto Mode Officially Supported.
5. Anything to worry about before installing TWRP/Treble?
I do not recommend it ... when I bought it a year ago it was a plane, now sony is not going to give it more support and heats up like a toaster, because of that overheating of the processor, it has caused an orange stain to appear screen. you better buy a Samsung A90 or the Galaxy S10 line
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imponente29 said:
DeblaGaming said:
Hello,
Im planning to buy a used Sony Xperia XZ Premium soon and I have a few Questions before im going to buy it.
1. Is it still good in 2019?
2. Any specific problem thats common on Used/New Devices (Like the Nexus 5X Manufacturing Problem etc.)
3. Any must have tips/things todo right after getting the device?
4. Can i trust Xperfirm and is the Auto Mode Officially Supported.
5. Anything to worry about before installing TWRP/Treble?
I do not recommend it ... when I bought it a year ago it was a plane, now sony is not going to give it more support and heats up like a toaster, because of that overheating of the processor, it has caused an orange stain to appear screen. you better buy a Samsung A90 or the Galaxy S10 line
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Thanks
But, you know that that device is cheap, which means that i have a low budget. So don't recommend the top line of phones as a replacement for an older and cheaper phone.
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well the device have not the best developer nor Sony support, but if u know what u are doing u can be happy, all games i tested here were still fine, if the device u get is used, check not only if its unlocked but actually batterry sot, since this phone is 3,2A only a weared battery might not be what u want. Else i am still very happy with it.
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It really depends on the price. I got my XZP last august I think for around $120 (USD). This phone is worth it if you have sweaty hands. I can still touch the screen without wiping it despite of having a sweaty hands. Most newer phones doesn't have that kind of screen at that price range. The specs are okay for me since I don't game on my phone. Battery life is a bit meh having only 5 hours SOT with stamina mode turned on (only 3.5 hours if its turned off). The camera is still good too (both front and rear). And it still looks cool. You can compare it to other modern flagships today when it comes to design.
BobLao said:
1. Is it still good in 2019?
Yes, and if you're not a gamer, it is pretty easy for you to use this device until 5G is really a thing. Although 4GB RAM is not great even in 2016's standard, 835 is still a powerful chip and somebody informed me that there *are* certain people that modified their maple and installed more RAM.
2. Any specific problem thats common on Used/New Devices (Like the Nexus 5X Manufacturing Problem etc.)
The screen of this device is easily aged and sometimes will be damaged, so please double check before you make your purchase and DO NOT BUY ANY JAPAN CUSTOMIZED PHONE.
Oh and one more thing, unlocking this device can cause lose on some camera features. Please make sure that you have backed up your TA before you unlock. Instructions on how to do so can be found on XDA.
3. Any must have tips/things todo right after getting the device?
Unlock and flash TWRP+Magisk.
Personally I don't like all third party builds that can be found online so maybe I'll build one myself when time is right. As for now, I'm OK with stock ROM rooted.
4. Can i trust Xperfirm and is the Auto Mode Officially Supported.
Yes but I haven't been using Xperfirm for long so my opinion on this one can be ignored.
5. Anything to worry about before installing TWRP/Treble?
The latest TWRP build on twrp.me have some problems and on my Chinese ver. G8142, it can't R/W my data . On 3.2.3 however it is working fine.
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What's the difference between Japanese version and global version? Is that really matter? Im going to buy XZP japan version later, because its quite cheapy, but now im doubtful
Ardianhu said:
What's the difference between Japanese version and global version? Is that really matter? Im going to buy XZP japan version later, because its quite cheapy, but now im doubtful
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JP ver can't get bootloader unlocked thus no rooting or TWRP. Certain batch can do so but I don't recommend trying to get your hands on one unit cuz it's quite difficult. Stock JP rom contains docomo's bloatware and some japan only modifications but you *can* adb them out.
nothing more.
imponente29 said:
DeblaGaming said:
Hello,
Im planning to buy a used Sony Xperia XZ Premium soon and I have a few Questions before im going to buy it.
1. Is it still good in 2019?
2. Any specific problem thats common on Used/New Devices (Like the Nexus 5X Manufacturing Problem etc.)
3. Any must have tips/things todo right after getting the device?
4. Can i trust Xperfirm and is the Auto Mode Officially Supported.
5. Anything to worry about before installing TWRP/Treble?
I do not recommend it ... when I bought it a year ago it was a plane, now sony is not going to give it more support and heats up like a toaster, because of that overheating of the processor, it has caused an orange stain to appear screen. you better buy a Samsung A90 or the Galaxy S10 line
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Root solves 99% of these issues.
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Still a decent phone for overall use that beats some newest mid range phones easily, depents what u wanna use it for
iRecommend it if u get it for good bucks...