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sony xperia z3

so now that verizon has the sony xperia z3 and it seems like a pretty solid phone. just wondering what everyone else thinks about it? is anyone thinking about switching to it or waiting for the nexus 6 to come out?

Likely locked boot loader. What do you like about Z3?

Rushing said:
Likely locked boot loader. What do you like about Z3?
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yeah i figured it was going to be locked down. i don't know i really like the way it looks, i went to vzw store today and checked it out, its a little on the bigger side. i like the ps4 remote play option and yes i know we can get it on our phones now i just havent tried doing it yet. im on the vzw edge program and my htc one is already half way paid off so i wouldn't have to pay anything if i upgraded. just seeing what everyone else though of it

Well it actually isn't a true Z3... if you look at the naming, it's the Z3V which is the Verizon specific variant of this phone. Some people have been saying that this is just the Z2 with updated internals and such so that may be something to consider because Sony did some updates with the body and feel with the Z3. Look at reviews too, a lot of them are pretty biased but they still offer good info.

I am also intrigued by this phone, but not able to upgrade till Feb 1, hopefully more to choose from by then, maybe a true Z3c, tired of the big phones, smaller phone with great hardware is what is missing, and the ability to unlock the boot loader.
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Well it actually isn't a true Z3... if you look at the naming, it's the Z3V which is the Verizon specific variant of this phone. Some people have been saying that this is just the Z2 with updated internals and such so that may be something to consider because Sony did some updates with the body and feel with the Z3. Look at reviews too, a lot of them are pretty biased but they still offer good info.
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You're exactly right. It's got 32gb storage, instead of 16gb, and has wireless charging.
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SDC_Bolts said:
I am also intrigued by this phone, but not able to upgrade till Feb 1, hopefully more to choose from by then, maybe a true Z3c, tired of the big phones, smaller phone with great hardware is what is missing, and the ability to unlock the boot loader.
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The problem with Sony phones is that unlocking the bootloader usually degrades the camera's image quality pretty significantly, because their proprietary camera drivers are disabled when the bootloader is unlocked.

maxpower7 said:
The problem with Sony phones is that unlocking the bootloader usually degrades the camera's image quality pretty significantly, because their proprietary camera drivers are disabled when the bootloader is unlocked.
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That has to be the stupidest idea ever. Why would they do that?! Lol

I have to say. I loved everything back in the day with Sony. The X10 was the first phone I got that was a smartphone but with HTC constantly being on the cutting edge with advancements in their products and build quality has really put me in a spot where I don't want anything different. Although when I first heard Verizon was getting the z3 I was excited. Then as stated above I found it to be a Z2 with a few upgrades. I don't know if I would waste my upgrade with the Z3V.

Is the 8X by HTC still worth it?

Hello guys, I'm really low on money and need a new smartphone. I was thinking the 8X by HTC but as far as I read it won't even get the Update 1 from the Windows Phone 8.1.
So I'm better looking something else to buy?

HTC tweeted about 3 weeks ago that they are working through some issues with the 8.1 release, and have no dates to share just yet, but says "Stay tuned for more news."

Truck'n Hemi said:
Hello guys, I'm really low on money and need a new smartphone. I was thinking the 8X by HTC but as far as I read it won't even get the Update 1 from the Windows Phone 8.1.
So I'm better looking something else to buy?
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My 8X has 8.1 Update 1 installed on it via Preview for Developers. They fixed the issue a while ago.

Thanks for the replies, it really helped.

compu829 said:
My 8X has 8.1 Update 1 installed on it via Preview for Developers. They fixed the issue a while ago.
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Hey, man, could you give me some details regarding the 8X? I can't find anywhere about HTC's exclusive apps, updates, performance, etc. Did the camera get any better after all theses updates from WP8? I know it's a pretty good camera and I will use it a lot so if it got better I would be really happy. How are the nights shots?

It's similar to the Lumia 925 as far as performance goes. Depending on the model you get, it will use either an LTE or non-LTE chipset. In the US, the Verizon and AT&T variants are the LTE versions. I like the camera. Haven't had any issues with it. Just change if from the default 6MP to 8 MP.
IF you care about exclusive apps, get a Lumia HTC doesn't have any to write home about.
Here is a review of the AT&T model http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/29/htc-8x-review-windows-phone-8s-compact-flagship/

compu829 said:
It's similar to the Lumia 925 as far as performance goes. Depending on the model you get, it will use either an LTE or non-LTE chipset. In the US, the Verizon and AT&T variants are the LTE versions. I like the camera. Haven't had any issues with it. Just change if from the default 6MP to 8 MP.
IF you care about exclusive apps, get a Lumia HTC doesn't have any to write home about.
Here is a review of the AT&T model http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/29/htc-8x-review-windows-phone-8s-compact-flagship/
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Thanks, apreciate your analysis. Lumia 925 has good performance so I'll be satisfied, as far as I know the version on Asia doesn't have LTE and it's not a problem to me.
Actually I care about the HTC exclusive apps, I think HTC has great customizations so I'd like to try them. The camera app always got my attention, the blinkfeed is pretty cool, etc. I know Nokia has much more apps but none of them gets me right, my mother-in-law has a Lumia 520 that I recomended so I'm familiar with Nokia apps. Besides, HTC 8X is much more well designed than any windows phone, only Lumias 925 and 930 can be considered beautifully designed as well.
I read the review, its a pretty good phone, comfortable to hold and not too big, though the screen could be bigger for the phone size. I also read this review(HTC 8X camera review) with emphasis on the camera and I was happy to know that the software can automatcally slow down the sutter speed to get better images.

those apps you are referring to are exclusive to the HTC One M8 for Windows. They don't even show up in the store when I search for them on my 8X!

compu829 said:
those apps you are referring to are exclusive to the HTC One M8 for Windows. They don't even show up in the store when I search for them on my 8X!
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This can't be right, I've seen in some videos on YouTube that the 8X has HTC apps on Windows Phone. Maybe cause you're using a preview version for developers this support is not added yet, this happens in other plataforms as well.

Truck'n Hemi said:
This can't be right, I've seen in some videos on YouTube that the 8X has HTC apps on Windows Phone. Maybe cause you're using a preview version for developers this support is not added yet, this happens in other plataforms as well.
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It has some OEM apps, but not BlinkFeed. Love this phone, just ordered my third one.

Go for it, its worth the Money. In my country it is under $150, lower than any matching Lumia.
But if you see both phones side by side, Lumia is crap. I m using it for last one year, (switched from iPhone 5) and still comfortable with it.
As already told, it can have 8.1 under developer preview option.

Hagenlund said:
It has some OEM apps, but not BlinkFeed. Love this phone, just ordered my third one.
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Yeah, but blink feed isn't essential. Would be good if HTC release it's apps for download, it will release the HTC Camera on Play Store.
What do you mean third one? Don't you even try newer phones? Good to know, I'll keep your passion in mind.

Just ordererd a second-handed 8X from ebay and is now waiting for it ($80 free shipping)
Having used the WP7-era HTC surround, I think HTC's OEM specific apps isn't something that'll hold you from getting the DP updates.... They just don't feel as natural as they are on Android (if you can make Blinkfeed as the default page then that's another history...)
Anyway, for the price those 8X are hanging around on eBay, they're pretty good deals if you need a new (old) phone

Truck'n Hemi said:
Yeah, but blink feed isn't essential. Would be good if HTC release it's apps for download, it will release the HTC Camera on Play Store.
What do you mean third one? Don't you even try newer phones? Good to know, I'll keep your passion in mind.
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Sure, after I broke my second 8X I switched to an M7. It works okay, but bit rot is setting in and I'm starting to wish I was back on Windows. Looking forward to receiving my new , blue Verizon 8X.

Hagenlund said:
Sure, after I broke my second 8X I switched to an M7. It works okay, but bit rot is setting in and I'm starting to wish I was back on Windows. Looking forward to receiving my new , blue Verizon 8X.
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Rot? That's strange, what kind? I really like HTC phones and the M8 for Windows is my current passion, too bad the price doesn't allow me to buy one.
Even if you like the 8X this much the only way I have to buy one is importing a refurbshed from China, so I rather buy some chinese smartphone. I'm still avaluating the situation.

Truck'n Hemi said:
Rot? That's strange, what kind? I really like HTC phones and the M8 for Windows is my current passion, too bad the price doesn't allow me to buy one.
Even if you like the 8X this much the only way I have to buy one is importing a refurbshed from China, so I rather buy some chinese smartphone. I'm still avaluating the situation.
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Bit rot is just a name for the slowness and buggyness that comes to Android after a while of using it. Resetting the phone solves it, but it comes back again. Windows Phone and Ios avoids the problem by sandboxing apps etc. My first 8X i bought in store, a regular euro version. My second and third, both Verizon edition, i bought on eBay.

Hagenlund said:
Bit rot is just a name for the slowness and buggyness that comes to Android after a while of using it. Resetting the phone solves it, but it comes back again. Windows Phone and Ios avoids the problem by sandboxing apps etc. My first 8X i bought in store, a regular euro version. My second and third, both Verizon edition, i bought on eBay.
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Got it, Android does have this problem with long lasting stability and solidness. It's, however, getting much better and providing improved user experienced that was missing when compared with Windows Phone.
How are the camera of the 8X for macro shots? I will use a lot of the camera. 16GB of memory is ok for Windows Phone? I didn't have any trouble with space on Android.

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Got it, Android does have this problem with long lasting stability and solidness. It's, however, getting much better and providing improved user experienced that was missing when compared with Windows Phone.
How are the camera of the 8X for macro shots? I will use a lot of the camera. 16GB of memory is ok for Windows Phone? I didn't have any trouble with space on Android.
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I couldn't say about macro shots, since I've naver taken any myself. Generally I'd say the 8X has a great camera for its current price class, but obviously it can't compete with a 930 or something like that. WP takes up less space than Android, so you should be fine with 16 GB.
If you do get an 8X then make sure you get the Verizon edition for the wireless charging

Hagenlund said:
I couldn't say about macro shots, since I've naver taken any myself. Generally I'd say the 8X has a great camera for its current price class, but obviously it can't compete with a 930 or something like that. WP takes up less space than Android, so you should be fine with 16 GB.
If you do get an 8X then make sure you get the Verizon edition for the wireless charging
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The Nokias are in a different level when it comes to camera, mainly the PureView series. But the fotographer counts a lot, I've seen some crazy photos with this Lumias and with the HTC 8X I'd get great results.
Great news, then. Space is something that will always worry me once it don't get an expansion slot.
Unfurtnatly the Verizon model don't work in my country, has to be the unlocked or AT&T models because of the net. Besides, the wireless charging isn't a big deal for me.
For the price I'm trying to decide between the Sony Xperia T and the HTC 8X. Thinking in system and overall hardware the 8X takes the leadership, but when it comes to back camera and flexibility the Xperia T appears on top.

Truck'n Hemi said:
The Nokias are in a different level when it comes to camera, mainly the PureView series. But the fotographer counts a lot, I've seen some crazy photos with this Lumias and with the HTC 8X I'd get great results.
Great news, then. Space is something that will always worry me once it don't get an expansion slot.
Unfurtnatly the Verizon model don't work in my country, has to be the unlocked or AT&T models because of the net. Besides, the wireless charging isn't a big deal for me.
For the price I'm trying to decide between the Sony Xperia T and the HTC 8X. Thinking in system and overall hardware the 8X takes the leadership, but when it comes to back camera and flexibility the Xperia T appears on top.
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Are you quite sure about the Verizon edition not working in your country? Strange, as it's supposed to be a worldphone. It works great here in Norway, except for the 4G which is the wrong band. Wireless charging isn't really something you think about, but it's a massive convenience if you do have it, so I'd reccommend checking that out if you're not 100 % sure.
Anyways, If I were you then I'd choose the OS first, then the phone. If you're looking for the most features for your money then Android is probably the way to go.

Still worth it NOW?

Hello,
I had a Xperia Z1 before and it had some problems so I sent it to Sony just a week ago and they are going to destroy the phone and leave me with nothing (unless i pay, then i get the broken device back) so I'm looking for a new phone just after 3 months :/ The oneplus two seems nice but I don't really want to spend 400 bucks on a phone as i'm only 16 years old and don't have the money for it yet! I can get the 16gb model but my music library is about that size lol! The oneplus one seems nice but I'm not exactly sure if I should buy it or not as I've seen people post stuff about messy touch screens which is a problem I really don't want!
Has this been fixed in recent updates and is this still a good phone to get for 300 bucks(64gb)?
Thanks in advance!

noahvt said:
Hello,
I had a Xperia Z1 before and it had some problems so I sent it to Sony just a week ago and they are going to destroy the phone and leave me with nothing (unless i pay, then i get the broken device back) so I'm looking for a new phone just after 3 months :/ The oneplus two seems nice but I don't really want to spend 400 bucks on a phone as i'm only 16 years old and don't have the money for it yet! I can get the 16gb model but my music library is about that size lol! The oneplus one seems nice but I'm not exactly sure if I should buy it or not as I've seen people post stuff about messy touch screens which is a problem I really don't want!
Has this been fixed in recent updates and is this still a good phone to get for 300 bucks(64gb)?
Thanks in advance!
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The truth is most people don't have any issues with this device, no matter how hard the haters try to say otherwise. It's still a good buy.

noahvt said:
Hello,
I had a Xperia Z1 before and it had some problems so I sent it to Sony just a week ago and they are going to destroy the phone and leave me with nothing (unless i pay, then i get the broken device back) so I'm looking for a new phone just after 3 months :/ The oneplus two seems nice but I don't really want to spend 400 bucks on a phone as i'm only 16 years old and don't have the money for it yet! I can get the 16gb model but my music library is about that size lol! The oneplus one seems nice but I'm not exactly sure if I should buy it or not as I've seen people post stuff about messy touch screens which is a problem I really don't want!
Has this been fixed in recent updates and is this still a good phone to get for 300 bucks(64gb)?
Thanks in advance!
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Touchscreen issues have been fixed, only bad thing is that with the latest Android L, the battery isn't so good but it's possible to downgrade to kitkat.
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noahvt said:
Hello,
I had a Xperia Z1 before and it had some problems so I sent it to Sony just a week ago and they are going to destroy the phone and leave me with nothing (unless i pay, then i get the broken device back) so I'm looking for a new phone just after 3 months :/ The oneplus two seems nice but I don't really want to spend 400 bucks on a phone as i'm only 16 years old and don't have the money for it yet! I can get the 16gb model but my music library is about that size lol! The oneplus one seems nice but I'm not exactly sure if I should buy it or not as I've seen people post stuff about messy touch screens which is a problem I really don't want!
Has this been fixed in recent updates and is this still a good phone to get for 300 bucks(64gb)?
Thanks in advance!
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Mentioned touch screen issues were with initial lot.. The new devices don't have any problems..
OPO is well worth the money..
Only advice would be not to upgrade to 5.1 and continue using it on 4.4..for the sake of battery of course.. [emoji56]
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nickchets said:
Mentioned touch screen issues were with initial lot.. The new devices don't have any problems..
OPO is well worth the money..
Only advice would be not to upgrade to 5.1 and continue using it on 4.4..for the sake of battery of course.. [emoji56]
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Yup, there's no problem with it, I got one bought in January till now and it has no issues at all, no yellow tint or touch problem. Previously I got 1 early China batch one it indeed has yellow tint, but it doesn't as annoying or visible as you think.
Also vote for staying on KK, Lollipop the battery drain like nobody business. (Stock CM12S/CM12.1, Stock Kernel too)

go ahead n buy... no device has comecloser for me in terms of value for money!! no issues left now
hopefully android m will end battery problems as well!!

paras33 said:
go ahead n buy... no device has comecloser for me in terms of value for money!! no issues left now
hopefully android m will end battery problems as well!!
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Alrighty then, the device is 300 euros in Europe and that's a steal! Do you guys happen to know when they will stop selling the one to estimate how much time I have left to buy one?

noahvt said:
Alrighty then, the device is 300 euros in Europe and that's a steal! Do you guys happen to know when they will stop selling the one to estimate how much time I have left to buy one?
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I don't think they'll stop the sales anytime sooner. The phone is selling a lot even now, after a year of it's release. So take your time.

I'm sorry I didn't see the date of your query, but You will not find a better phone for the money. I won't ask how they managed to refuse to warranty the phone, but that is a shame. Hopefully you can save up some money and get one.

Hi. im also planning to trade my G3 for this device, im worried of my G3 that the crack issue will occur soon so I think of trading it for the 1+1.
is it worth it?

cheeze.keyk said:
Hi. im also planning to trade my G3 for this device, im worried of my G3 that the crack issue will occur soon so I think of trading it for the 1+1.
is it worth it?
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Have you actually read this thread? Or the dozens of others just like it in this section?

cheeze.keyk said:
Hi. im also planning to trade my G3 for this device, im worried of my G3 that the crack issue will occur soon so I think of trading it for the 1+1.
is it worth it?
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Yes its totally worth it. I bought my g3 in January of this year and as days pass by I started hating it. There was barely any development, the battery didn't last long,and it got pretty warm after sometime. I trade it for a one plus one and I'm not regretting it whatsoever I mean it doesn't have the fancy features like the g3 but the only thing I used on my g3 was the radio sometimes and rarely the ir blaster.
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Its still a decent device, although I'm keeping an eye on the ZUK Z1 which has been announced for international release to day (available October), with Cyanogen OS. Its basically shares many of the same internal hardware with the OPO, but has some additional features like OIS, dual SIM, finger print scanner, USB Type C, bigger battery, (arguably) nicer build materials.
http://www.androidheadlines.com/2015/08/hands-cyanogen-os-powered-zuk-z1.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Oh, they're also working on a ZUK 2 for January! Featuring the Snapdragon 820..
http://www.androidheadlines.com/2015/08/snapdragon-820-powered-zuk-z2-will-launch-january.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

I sold my 64gb One Plus One (only had it for a few months, got it after the invite system went away) to fund a One Plus Two but ultimately decided to get a Mi Note instead. Love it; far happier than I was with the One. The One had ghost touches, yellowing screen, crap and a half camera (who cares about 4K if HD and FHD still look bad) and horrible onboard sound quality. The Mi is fantastic. Giant LCD (I'm 6'6" so this is a plus), OIS camera, best audio DAC I've ever hear on a phone. And I really like MIUI. One Plus MIUI is broken.
The only downside is shipping from China, but mine arrived no problem (15 days, most of those spent in some sort of customs). 16GB are roughly the same, 64GB Mi Note is cheaper than comparable OP2.

Answer to your title: No! You can find better devices with the same money.
Sent from my bacon!!!!!

I just got my OPO for 2 weeks.
It has yellowish band on bottom screen.
But overall I satisfy this phone. (especially I am a flashaholic user.)

ps000000 said:
I just got my OPO for 2 weeks.
It has yellowish band on bottom screen.
But overall I satisfy this phone. (especially I am a flashaholic user.)
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I heard that band issue can be fixed by using it in the sun or putting it under some UV light, so if I have it I'll try that

To be honest, I'd take the Moto x Style or Moto x Play. With the new style center from Motorola and the 20 mp camera on the Play edition, it really stands out and may even be better then the 1+2.

Shurikan said:
To be honest, I'd take the Moto x Style or Moto x Play. With the new style center from Motorola and the 20 mp camera on the Play edition, it really stands out and may even be better then the 1+2.
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In my country, the moto x style is 500 euros which is well over my budget since I wasn't planning to buy a new phone any time soon!

you mean 380 euro in your country look at coolbue.nl, the moto x play is there for 379,-
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You're right about the style edition by the way, that one is 500 euros

Going to upgrade; Need some advice

The OPO is getting old now, I've had my 3years worth and loved it despite the issues I've faced!
However it's time to upgrade (new job, more money )
I'm in the mix between ;
Pixel 1 XL - £400 (Really like this phone, although the age is putting me off SLIGHTLY due to not going to get many official updates)
Pixel 2 - £630 (Quite a bit expensive, will leave me quite skint but possibly worth it; I want this device the most)
LG G6 - £400ish? £500 with a floating LG speaker (I REALLY like this device, especially for the money but the skin and delay in updates will probably make me ill lol)
Oneplus 5 8GB ram - £450 (student discount) (obviously this looks like the no brainer but i KNOW the jelly effect will really get to me, in nearly every review of it on youtube i notice it when they scroll; no one can change my mind about this but I've added it to see if theres yet a fix for it? or is there going to be one? I havent seen anything about it?)
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And these are the phones, can anybody steer me into the right way? I honestly cannot decide, and my mind hasnt been made so I'm not biased against any however I'm least keen about the OP5.

idonttakedrugs said:
The OPO is getting old now, I've had my 3years worth and loved it despite the issues I've faced!
However it's time to upgrade (new job, more money )
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From what I know,you need a device with good(not average) camera,is that correct?

Mr.Ak said:
From what I know,you need a device with good(not average) camera,is that correct?
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yeah man, i'm into my instagram and snapchat

idonttakedrugs said:
yeah man, i'm into my instagram and snapchat
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Well,Redmi Note 4 and lenovo p2 is off the list..
How about Honor 6x/mate 9 lite? It has quite good camera.
https://m.gsmarena.com/huawei_honor_6x-8388.php
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-6x
Confirmed oreo- https://www.google.co.in/search?dcr...s-hp..3.10.1782.3..41j0i131k1.285.tJCudWVwAAc

Mr.Ak said:
Well,Redmi Note 4 and lenovo p2 is off the list..
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I wouldn't choose them sort of phones anyway mate due to the inconvenience such as; they'd be imported, wouldnt have good support if anything was to happen and the sites selling the xiaomis at least havent had the best reviews.
The phones i suggested i can buy in town without hesitation, even the Oneplus 5 due to being in the UK and o2 selling oneplus products
I just want something that works, is great all round and smooth. (and something i'm able to flaunt to ALL of my iPhone friends that claim Android is for 'tramps and emo geeks' hahah )

idonttakedrugs said:
I wouldn't choose them sort of phones anyway mate due to the inconvenience such as; they'd be imported, wouldnt have good support if anything was to happen and the sites selling the xiaomis at least havent had the best reviews.
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Not really,except for average camera,it is actually a good device.Anyways,have a look at my edited post.

Mr.Ak said:
Not really,except for average camera,it is actually a good device.Anyways,have a look at my edited post.
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Well I was going to get the honor when it was just out as my dad asked if i wanted to get it off him and swap him for my opo with some money on top but the software is a big killer, possibly THEA worst android skin on a mainstream phone. The look, the feel and everything is clunky and pretty fairly disgusting.
I dont think theres any other phone on the market I'd have other than i've stated, I really like the Moto Z but I can't find it for sale in the UK (reasonably priced anyway), Also like Sony xperia phones but again, they're too expensive for what they are. The new HTC u11 is £600 so again, too expensive all considering.

idonttakedrugs said:
Well I was going to get the honor when it was just out as my dad asked if i wanted to get it off him and swap him for my opo with some money on top but the software is a big killer, possibly THEA worst android skin on a mainstream phone. The look, the feel and everything is clunky and pretty fairly disgusting.
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That's why custom ROMs are there,aren't they?
PS: you should wait for Honor 7X- https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-6x/how-to/wait-honor-7x-t3683703

Mr.Ak said:
That's why custom ROMs are there,aren't they?
PS: you should wait for Honor 7X- https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-6x/how-to/wait-honor-7x-t3683703
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i did say i want something that just works , ive spent TOO much of my time flashing with all the phones i've had purely because they were bad from factory, Oneplus One included with its shocking stock camera driver

idonttakedrugs said:
i did say i want something that just works , ive spent TOO much of my time flashing with all the phones i've had purely because they were bad from factory, Oneplus One included with its shocking stock camera driver
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I almost forgot.Congratulations for the new job.☺

Mr.Ak said:
I almost forgot.Congratulations for the new job.
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cheers bro :good:

Question Woo! Anyone else excited?

I live in the US, but I ordered an Edge S before I realized that the G100 might launch in the USA soon. Even so, it's looking like it might be more like $500, and I paid less than $400 for the Chinese Edge S. Hopefully the $100 savings will be worth it. But value-wise, I'm very excited for this phone. Some people are kind of angsty because it's an LCD display instead of OLED, but in the battery life comparisons I've seen it does very well and is just behind the Galaxy S 21 in overall endurance. I have the Black Shark 3 Pro but I've just never been happy with it since day one. The UI isn't great, it lacks NFC (I didn't know or else I wouldn't have gotten it...who makes a $700-$800 flagship without NFC?!?), and it lacks desktop mode. All of those were actually better on my previous phone, the Mate 20X. The UI wasn't much better on my last phone, but it was a little bit. I like how Motorola is really light on their UI and on extra apps, focusing more on hardware and a smooth experience. I had Motorolas before and I've really liked them, and a lot of my family has Motorolas now and they're happy too. My only hesitancy is that the screen is a tad small, smallest I've had in a while. But I think 6.7 will still be big enough. And hopefully too, I can sell my Black Shark 3 Pro for more than I paid for the Edge S since my phone is still in very good condition. I guess we'll see!

HopelesRomantc91 said:
I live in the US, but I ordered an Edge S before I realized that the G100 might launch in the USA soon. Even so, it's looking like it might be more like $500, and I paid less than $400 for the Chinese Edge S. Hopefully the $100 savings will be worth it. But value-wise, I'm very excited for this phone. Some people are kind of angsty because it's an LCD display instead of OLED, but in the battery life comparisons I've seen it does very well and is just behind the Galaxy S 21 in overall endurance. I have the Black Shark 3 Pro but I've just never been happy with it since day one. The UI isn't great, it lacks NFC (I didn't know or else I wouldn't have gotten it...who makes a $700-$800 flagship without NFC?!?), and it lacks desktop mode. All of those were actually better on my previous phone, the Mate 20X. The UI wasn't much better on my last phone, but it was a little bit. I like how Motorola is really light on their UI and on extra apps, focusing more on hardware and a smooth experience. I had Motorolas before and I've really liked them, and a lot of my family has Motorolas now and they're happy too. My only hesitancy is that the screen is a tad small, smallest I've had in a while. But I think 6.7 will still be big enough. And hopefully too, I can sell my Black Shark 3 Pro for more than I paid for the Edge S since my phone is still in very good condition. I guess we'll see!
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I've had my eye on this phone for a while. The specs look really nice and at $400 it's a decent deal for what you get. Will be watching to see how the rom development goes. I think they released the kernel a while ago so hopefully something happens soon.

HopelesRomantc91 said:
I live in the US, but I ordered an Edge S before I realized that the G100 might launch in the USA soon. Even so, it's looking like it might be more like $500, and I paid less than $400 for the Chinese Edge S. Hopefully the $100 savings will be worth it. But value-wise, I'm very excited for this phone. Some people are kind of angsty because it's an LCD display instead of OLED, but in the battery life comparisons I've seen it does very well and is just behind the Galaxy S 21 in overall endurance. I have the Black Shark 3 Pro but I've just never been happy with it since day one. The UI isn't great, it lacks NFC (I didn't know or else I wouldn't have gotten it...who makes a $700-$800 flagship without NFC?!?), and it lacks desktop mode. All of those were actually better on my previous phone, the Mate 20X. The UI wasn't much better on my last phone, but it was a little bit. I like how Motorola is really light on their UI and on extra apps, focusing more on hardware and a smooth experience. I had Motorolas before and I've really liked them, and a lot of my family has Motorolas now and they're happy too. My only hesitancy is that the screen is a tad small, smallest I've had in a while. But I think 6.7 will still be big enough. And hopefully too, I can sell my Black Shark 3 Pro for more than I paid for the Edge S since my phone is still in very good condition. I guess we'll see!
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Hey, yup, I'm looking forward to this phone. I also live in the US and like Moto, unlike a lot of people. If you don't mind me asking, what carrier do you use? With no North American variant announced yet I'm thinking of buying one from another region. Just wasn't sure if it would necessarily work. I don't have any experience buying phones outside of this region. Any advice would be great.

I think you could buy a Moto edge S from Chinese, the cheapest version is 1999￥ RMB.
After that, you unlock the Bootloader, when the global version release - G100, you can flash the global version firmware. It's very nice!
To be honest, the Moto edge S (Chinese version), the UI is MyUI, not pure Moto UI. It's very ugly.

HopelesRomantc91 said:
I live in the US, but I ordered an Edge S before I realized that the G100 might launch in the USA soon. Even so, it's looking like it might be more like $500, and I paid less than $400 for the Chinese Edge S. Hopefully the $100 savings will be worth it. But value-wise, I'm very excited for this phone. Some people are kind of angsty because it's an LCD display instead of OLED, but in the battery life comparisons I've seen it does very well and is just behind the Galaxy S 21 in overall endurance. I have the Black Shark 3 Pro but I've just never been happy with it since day one. The UI isn't great, it lacks NFC (I didn't know or else I wouldn't have gotten it...who makes a $700-$800 flagship without NFC?!?), and it lacks desktop mode. All of those were actually better on my previous phone, the Mate 20X. The UI wasn't much better on my last phone, but it was a little bit. I like how Motorola is really light on their UI and on extra apps, focusing more on hardware and a smooth experience. I had Motorolas before and I've really liked them, and a lot of my family has Motorolas now and they're happy too. My only hesitancy is that the screen is a tad small, smallest I've had in a while. But I think 6.7 will still be big enough. And hopefully too, I can sell my Black Shark 3 Pro for more than I paid for the Edge S since my phone is still in very good condition. I guess we'll see!
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Did u flash the global rom or using the chines rom. And from where did u buy?

Steve331 said:
I think you could buy a Moto edge S from Chinese, the cheapest version is 1999￥ RMB.
After that, you unlock the Bootloader, when the global version release - G100, you can flash the global version firmware. It's very nice!
To be honest, the Moto edge S (Chinese version), the UI is MyUI, not pure Moto UI. It's very ugly.
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This may be the route I go with. I guess it all depends whether the phone is released here in NA. I've seen articles that have said "more news to come" regarding a release and I've also seen at least one that has said "will not be available in North America". Of course, none are official statements by Motorola, so either can be true. I really like this phone, though, and one way or another, I'm going to pick it up.

Steve331 said:
I think you could buy a Moto edge S from Chinese, the cheapest version is 1999￥ RMB.
After that, you unlock the Bootloader, when the global version release - G100, you can flash the global version firmware. It's very nice!
To be honest, the Moto edge S (Chinese version), the UI is MyUI, not pure Moto UI. It's very ugly.
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I've not seen it for this price anywhere. Where are you finding it?

I bought mine from AliExpress, but I've also bought from Giztop.com before and it was fine. I don't have the phone yet, it should be arriving probably in another week or so. I don't know of any bootloader unlock, nor having access to a global ROM to flash.
As far as buying phones from outside your region, kimovil.com seems to have the most accurate and also easiest to read info about which service bands a device has. I have AT&T, and this device has more LTE bands than my current one, which works fine anyway. I may not really get 5G, but I don't think AT&T has 5G in my area yet anyway.

HopelesRomantc91 said:
I bought mine from AliExpress, but I've also bought from Giztop.com before and it was fine. I don't have the phone yet, it should be arriving probably in another week or so. I don't know of any bootloader unlock, nor having access to a global ROM to flash.
As far as buying phones from outside your region, kimovil.com seems to have the most accurate and also easiest to read info about which service bands a device has. I have AT&T, and this device has more LTE bands than my current one, which works fine anyway. I may not really get 5G, but I don't think AT&T has 5G in my area yet anyway.
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u can try unlocking bootloader as moto allow it. https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-b. U also can flash global rom using Rescue and Smart Assistant application

tamojit_ray said:
u can try unlocking bootloader as moto allow it. https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-b. U also can flash global rom using Rescue and Smart Assistant application
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Cool. I'll consider it after I get it. But most likely the Chinese ROM will be fine. The description says it comes with Google services and has English language. I'll probably only try to flash Global if I run into issues.

Timmons said:
I've not seen it for this price anywhere. Where are you finding it?
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You could find Moto edge S on China website, like jd.com or taobao.com.
if they could send it to your country, China retail version is the lowest price.

Steve331 said:
You could find Moto edge S on China website, like jd.com or taobao.com.
if they could send it to your country, China retail version is the lowest price.
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Thanks! Never heard of these sites. Definitely beats aliexpress price

Timmons said:
Thanks! Never heard of these sites. Definitely beats aliexpress price
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I bought mine a few months back when they were doing pre-order from giztop.com. They shipped to Canada. now I'm just waiting for the G100 rom to flash the Edge S, and I'll be 100% happy. Other than that. great phone.

I 'm using the edge s . i find the phone 3.5mm headphone sound is so bad quality. Especially at low volume, there are obvious noises that accompany the ups and downs of the music.

Hello everyone! I am very exited about this phone too. I live in Argentina and ordered the Moto G 100 a few days ago (8GB+128GB+USB C to HDMI Cable). Next week should be in my hands.
I am also thinking about custom ROMs like PixelExperience, which I really like. Currently I have a Redmi Note 7 4GB+64GB I am very happy with the behavior of PixelExperience on it. I am a little afraid that I am will not get used to the Motorola UI.
Also thinking about custom ROMs do you think that the "Ready For" feature will be compatible?

So far I like the Motorola UI, but it really is personal preference. I've never tried PixelExperience. As for Ready For, I can't say. But starting with Android 10, desktop mode was built-in as a developer option. I haven't tested that feature at all, but I imagine it's decent and similar to Ready For.
As soon as you get your G100, if you could download the Rescue and Smart Assistant, download your firmware, and then upload it and share it here, that would be awesome.

HopelesRomantc91 said:
So far I like the Motorola UI, but it really is personal preference. I've never tried PixelExperience. As for Ready For, I can't say. But starting with Android 10, desktop mode was built-in as a developer option. I haven't tested that feature at all, but I imagine it's decent and similar to Ready For.
As soon as you get your G100, if you could download the Rescue and Smart Assistant, download your firmware, and then upload it and share it here, that would be awesome.
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Pixel experience is pretty awesome. Hopefully the smart devs on xda work on it eventually.

HopelesRomantc91 said:
So far I like the Motorola UI, but it really is personal preference. I've never tried PixelExperience. As for Ready For, I can't say. But starting with Android 10, desktop mode was built-in as a developer option. I haven't tested that feature at all, but I imagine it's decent and similar to Ready For.
As soon as you get your G100, if you could download the Rescue and Smart Assistant, download your firmware, and then upload it and share it here, that would be awesome.
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Sure! I can do that.
Sorry, I am new here, where is right place to upload those kind of things?

I actually don't know. I would like to summon @sd_shadow to ask, where is the best place to upload firmware?

HopelesRomantc91 said:
I actually don't know. I would like to summon @sd_shadow to ask, where is the best place to upload firmware?
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Androidfilehost.com is good, some complain about the download speed
Mega.nz is good
Google drive is good
Edit: Sorry I thought AFH had a free upload