Honor 9 vs Huawei P10 - Honor 9 Guides, News, & Discussion

Hi,
I'm stuck between these two choices. Honor 9 or Huawei P10? Which one should be a better go?
I wrote down some of the advantages of both devices as I'm aware of.
P10 - (probably) a better camera with Leica certification, smaller (better grip), fast charging, if you're lucky enough you get faster memory typ, VIP service (1 year extra warranty), gorilla glass 5 (which I honestly don't care because I'm gonna protect it with tempered glass anyway)
Honor 9 - buttons under the display (this is probably the best thing I like on it), IR blaster, (probably?) the better battery type (Li-Po), a little bit bigger screen, fast charging (only first 50% though)
I read somewhere that P10 should be faster with the updates but I'm not sure about that. As for software/hardware it should be at the same level.
Which one would you recommend and why? Thanks in advance.
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The price is actually the same. ~ 460€ for both (EU).

Well as for aesthetic I really don't care about it because I'm gonna put a case on it anyway and I like the design of both. Actually the only thing I'm keeping me eye on Honor 9 is because its HW buttons. Although I'm used to SW buttons (I've been using it for past 2 years).
P10 should be more crack resistant, faster storage if you're lucky and SuperCharge
(I'm not into rooting)

Honor 9! Its the better P10

Go with the p10 if you value camera, because it has OIS unlike honor 9.
Also faster storage.

Thanks for your input guys. I think I'm gonna get Honor 9 because the HW buttons is just a great feature to have. That's something you're using constantly.

I would go for the honor 9 basically for the community development

Rommco05 said:
Yes hw buttons are so good + full size of display
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Yeah exactly my words plus it's so much comfortable that way. This pretty much got me.

I'm eagerly waiting to try the 3-in-1 home button

Well I'll use it for a while, just for the sake of differntiation.

I read somewhere that left/right button swipe on P10 for "recent apps" isn't very responsive and many times reacts as a "back button" instead. So it's not that great feature overall. That's why all 3 HW buttons is much comfortable and makes your life easier. Like I said it's something that you're using constantly everyday, every minute.
Imo on screen software buttons are only acceptable if your device is bezel-less (with 18:9 aspect ratio in the best scenario like G6, S8).

I agree with you on these points

If you want a device with a metal construction I would go with the Huawei P10. Otherwise I would go with the Honor 9 as they have similar specs. But the Honor 9 does have a beautiful glass and metal sandwich construction.

I went with the P10 Plus instead of a Honor 9. Using the fingerprint reader as an all-in-one button actually works great. I can't say if it's better then the two on the Honor 9, but you probably will be just as happy with the P10 solution. Only real upside of the Honor 9 solution is easier access to split screen, but most of us probably don't use that feature too much.

I would say go for the P10.
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I was torn between these 2 phones a while back after I sold my Honor 8. With discount code I could buy either one from local online store at almost the same price. After a week of reading reviews, watching youtube comparisons etc, I decided to go for the honor 9 simply because of 2 reasons. Hardware keys and IR blaster.

pijes said:
I was torn between these 2 phones a while back after I sold my Honor 8. With discount code I could buy either one from local online store at almost the same price. After a week of reading reviews, watching youtube comparisons etc, I decided to go for the honor 9 simply because of 2 reasons. Hardware keys and IR blaster.
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The P10 also has a hardware key. It's just implemented differently from other hardware key styles

iceepyon said:
The P10 also has a hardware key. It's just implemented differently from other hardware key styles
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I don't really like the implementation. I just prefer the old fashion way (3 different buttons).

The P10 fingerprint scanner acts like hardware buttons and is actually very intuitive - I've been using it for a week now:
- one tap to go back
- long press to go Home
- swipe left or right to bring up list of open apps

pijes said:
I don't really like the implementation. I just prefer the old fashion way (3 different buttons).
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It's actually not that bad once you get use to it. I actually find Huawei's implementation of the hardware button on the P10 as pretty good. When compared to past similar iterations of the same single button style.

Does quick app switching work with that one key solution on Huawei P10? I always use this double tap on multitasking button to switch to the last app, since I have Nougat.

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Do I buy this phone?

What is your opinion is it worth of price? Do I buy it or go for note 3/4?
Both are great
I have both phones and I like each phone for different reasons. I really like the sleekness and the larger screen on the Mate 7 and it works great on T Mobile. Outdoors the screen could be brighter though. For travel purposes I would probably default to the Note 4 because it has a better camera and shoots 4K video. And I really have always liked the built in pen capabilities of the Note series. I hear Huawei may be announcing the Mate 8 soon (March?) which might be worth checking out but might also lower the price on the Mate 7. For the last couple of weeks I have been using the Mate 7 exclusively and knowing what I know now I might be hard pressed to spend $700+ on the Note 4. I happened to have been in Cambodia when the Mate 7 was first released and bought it for $470 with case. I use a 128GB SD card in it with no problems. I find the speaker on the Mate 7 to be louder than the Note 4 which I really like when walking near traffic.
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@bkkcnxsi Thx for replay. I heard from some people that huawei generaly have tehnical hardware problems and after few months of using visiting service is necessary. This serie of "Mate 7" does not have that problems?
93boba said:
@bkkcnxsi Thx for replay. I heard from some people that huawei generaly have tehnical hardware problems and after few months of using visiting service is necessary. This serie of "Mate 7" does not have that problems?
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Hardware is okay, software is crap. Big screen, but less data on it than on a cheapie Nexus 5. Huawei just made all the graphics and text super huge so you have a massive phone to carry in your pocket for zero benefit. Made for 80-year-old grandmas with vision problems, I guess.
I personally like my AM7, in order of most recently owned phones, I've had: LG G3 -> Sony Xperia Z1 -> Nexus 5 -> Galaxy Note 3, so my experiences come from owning those phones.
The is the best phone I've owned in a few aspects: 1) battery life; 2) build quality; 3) ergonomics; 4) hardware.
Battery life speaks for itself, as I've consistently had 6 hours of on screen time (note: I use Xposed with Greenify, and GPS usually off and at 65-75% brightness). Simply put: it's a complete monster of a phone in terms of battery life.
The build quality is simply staggering as there aren't many Android phones out there that can compete. The quality speaks for itself, as the only phone that can compare to it is the HTC One M8.
Ergonomics - the button placement is great, especially for the size of the phone. There's a minimal amount of bezels too, which means the phone's screen real estate is huge. The LG G3's take on button placement was nearly perfect, and Huawei took advantage of this by placing the fingerprint scanner right where your index finger naturally lays.
Hardware - fingerprint scanner, octacore processor, 'nuff said.
Cons: software, software, software, camera, software.
This phone's software is cumbersome at times. It has moments of brilliance, but is overall not great. I'm currently running Nova launcher to replace the ghastly stock launcher. But certain aspects of the stock theme cannot be replaced by Xposed apps and what not. Things include: inability to remove the alarm clock from the notification bar, pull down menus, recent apps layout, etc.Hopefully, Lolipop will fix a few of these issues.
Overall, the phone is spectacular. There's always going to be something better in the market in 4-5 months, but I can see myself living with this phone for a while, but it all depends on when we get 5.0 and if at least a few of the software issues are resolved.
To be fair not a single smartphone is manufactured yet which is totally perfect. Take any phone and go to their forum and see what people are complaining.
In my opinion this is the best phone I ever saw. The most important thing for me is the battery life. It gives me easily 9 to 10 hours of screen time which is more than sufficient for me. I don't think that there is any other phone in the market giving you this much screen on time. All this time wifi is on and surfing the net plus Facebook and Facebook videos...
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93boba said:
What is your opinion is it worth of price? Do I buy it or go for note 3/4?
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It depends on what you looking for. If you want concern battery, screen side , two sim card . Mate 7 will be a good choice. If you concern the cpu speed , and camera ,you should note 4. I buy Mate 7 , because it have 6 mon and can support 4g in hong kong and china. Not much choice can meet my requirements , finally I choose Mate 7
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Looking at the Mate 8

Despite some ups and downs along the way, I've been quite happy with the Note Edge. I actually use a Note 4 port on it so I do not have the Edge side features. I prefer having the entire width of the screen to work with (although I do miss tiny burgers!). As it turns out, the width of Note Edge screen is about the same as the Mate 8, but it is about 1 cm shorter then the typical 6" screen. I've gotten so used to the wider screen I don't want to go down to a narrower phone. So I'm interested in some of the new crop of 6" phones. Seems like the Mate 8 is one of the better models. Anybody thinking of going that route? Any comments about the device or Huawei support or development for these devices? Thanks
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Despite some ups and downs along the way, I've been quite happy with the Note Edge. I actually use a Note 4 port on it so I do not have the Edge side features. I prefer having the entire width of the screen to work with (although I do miss tiny burgers!). As it turns out, the width of Note Edge screen is about the same as the Mate 8, but it is about 1 cm shorter then the typical 6" screen. I've gotten so used to the wider screen I don't want to go down to a narrower phone. So I'm interested in some of the new crop of 6" phones. Seems like the Mate 8 is one of the better models. Anybody thinking of going that route? Any comments about the device or Huawei support or development for these devices? Thanks
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i have p8max and it is abeast power horse phablet it is way faster and smoother than my old note 4
i think the mate 8 will be fantastic phone :laugh:
rowihel2012 said:
offcorse
i have p8max and it is abeast power horse phablet it is way faster and smoother than my old note 4
i think the mate 8 will be fantastic phone :laugh:
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Wow! Talk about big screen. That beast has a 6.8" screen. According to GSMarena, its next iteration, the p9max, will be shrunk down to 6.2". Might have a better screen and camera than Mate 8. May be worth the wait.
My wife has the P8 and really likes it.
You wont ever be able to use xposed, so that might be a consideration.
Otherwise, the phone is really nice and the camera seems great.
They is very little development for them though.
I think there is only 1 ROM for the P8, and none for others - like the P8lite.
So, if you love modding your phone with custom ROMs and xposed, I would shy away from Huawei.
Speaking of tiny burgers, what happened to it. I can't find it anywhere. I got my phone 5 months ago and it was on 5.0.1 but even then, I don't remember the game being there
Looks like it will be offered in US
http://www.gsmarena.com/wsj_huawei_to_launch_mate_8_in_us_next_year-news-15570.php
Giving it some serious thought...

Choose this over Honor 8?

So I'm having trouble deciding between the 6x and the 8. I'm coming from a Nextbit Robin with a Snapdragon 808 and 3GB of RAM. I use NFC to bump to my camera, but I can live without it if it saves me enough money.
I'm gathering that the 6X display isn't quite as nice as the honor 8's (density, lack of oleophobic, etc), but otherwise how is the performance and what made you pick the budget version over the more expensive "flagship" 8? I must admit, one of my big hesitations is EMUI- I'm a fan of stock Android, and many of my touchwiz etc devices have been flashed to CM/OmniRom/Lineage OS, etc to get the original Android feel back. Heck, even my Nextbit robin which is quite stock out of the box aside from a custom launcher, is now running OmniRom with more-or-less weekly updates that are surprisingly stable. Which of the two phones have more stock-like custom roms available?
I'd think the 8, but I'm seeing a lot of unfinished WIPs Anything stable enough for daily driver on the Honor or 6x?
Hi, the performance of this phone fits well with an high usage, i came from a dead S4 Mini on this phone due to the report price/quality and I'm very satisfied; it never gets hot, so the ram is well managed by the SoC and camera quality is awesome, for example; the only thing that suffers on devices with Huawei's Kirin processors, for as much they can handle the phone well, is a strong development community behind. We have a team working on custom Roms, but as you could imagine it can't be compared to the strength of devices powered by Qualcomm's Snapdragon processors, wide open to third-party development, and so supported by many more teams of developers. Huawei released sources for Honor 8 and 6X too, but there are still some known bugs on cooked roms; like the possibility to use the stock Huawei camera app, that gives his best on pictures results. Or HwComposer bug, that have an impact on UI performances making it laggy. Looks like other developers aren't interested in working with Kirin processors at the moment. Aside this, i dunno if custom ROMs situation at the moment is better on 6X or 8 because i own a 6X and i know a few about honor 8, but not the state of rom development. It should be better on 8 at the moment if I'm not wrong, but bugs mentioned above are still present. If you mind to have a strong mid-range phone at a good price, go for 6X. If you want some more, go for 8
Yeah, the unique dual-sensor camera is something I'm concerned about as I'm sure that isn't even close to standardized, so I was thinking it would probably only work properly on the original factory firmware. Camera is a pretty significant part of the decision process on this phone, so having to choose between clean Google UI without any unexpected quirks (I've heard about EMUI's power management aggressively closing background apps among other things), or having that beautiful camera work properly.
With all due respect, coming from the S4 Mini this must have been a huge upgrade for you! The s4 mini didn't even have 2GB of ram if I recall correctly, and very underpowered dual core CPU. I'm coming from a Snapdragon flagship-class chip with 3GB.
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I agree with you, to me camera is an important thing too to keep in mind while choosing a device. Here surely you wouldn't make a wrong step, I am very satisfied by the camera that this phone is carrying with him. EMUI's background killer instinct is adjustable however it let you choose which apps kill or not, something similar to Greenify.
Regarding my old Sammy, it's bad that it just hard-broke one day from another due to a simple call received. I answered, and then it suddenly shut off... Forever. I've tried a lot of stuff, nothing worked. It's a stone now. I'm sure that this is exactly a programmed obsolescence by Samsung, especially after the hundreds, or better, thousands of help threads that I've seen appearing both on XDA and other tech forums in the same splice of time. You're right it had 1,5GB of ram, it has been a great jump of performances indeed. Which phone you have anyway?
RedSkull23 said:
I agree with you, to me camera is an important thing too to keep in mind while choosing a device. Here surely you wouldn't make a wrong step, I am very satisfied by the camera that this phone is carrying with him. EMUI's background killer instinct is adjustable however it let you choose which apps kill or not, something similar to Greenify.
Regarding my old Sammy, it's bad that it just hard-broke one day from another due to a simple call received. I answered, and then it suddenly shut off... Forever. I've tried a lot of stuff, nothing worked. It's a stone now. I'm sure that this is exactly a programmed obsolescence by Samsung, especially after the hundreds, or better, thousands of help threads that I've seen appearing both on XDA and other tech forums in the same splice of time. You're right it had 1,5GB of ram, it has been a great jump of performances indeed. Which phone you have anyway?
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I'm using a P8 Lite 2017, and the 12MP camera is amazing, so I can only imagine the Honor 6X is even better. I came from a Galaxy Note 4 (Snapdragon 805 and 3GB RAM) and I can assure you that the Kirin 655 is well optimized. I'd say go for the 6X and have money to spare. You won't be disappointed
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I'm using a P8 Lite 2017, and the 12MP camera is amazing, so I can only imagine the Honor 6X is even better. I came from a Galaxy Note 4 (Snapdragon 805 and 3GB RAM) and I can assure you that the Kirin 655 is well optimized. I'd say go for the 6X and have money to spare. You won't be disappointed
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Shoots awesome pictures, it just lose some points on photos with low light. Details are wonderful! The Kirin handles the phone in an excellent manner. The really weak point is development community
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Shoots awesome pictures, it just lose some points on photos with low light. Details are wonderful! The Kirin handles the phone in an excellent manner. The really weak point is development community
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I agree completely. Fingers crossed that our devices receive Android 8
paddymcg1 said:
I agree completely. Fingers crossed that our devices receive Android 8
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Fingers crossed that the Oreo-EMUI fusion won't be worst than Nougat, more than everything battery performance was way better optimized on Marshmallow than on Nougat... Because if Huawei fails on this, i prefer to remain on Nougat
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Fingers crossed that the Oreo-EMUI fusion won't be worst than Nougat, more than everything battery performance was way better optimized on Marshmallow than on Nougat... Because if Huawei fails on this, i prefer to remain on Nougat
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I find battery life with the 3000mah battery in my P8 Lite 2017 mediocre. The phone shipped with Nougat out of the box so I don't have experience with the Kirin 655 on Marshmallow. However, my Huawei P8 had great battery life on Marshmallow even though it used a power hungry Kirin 930 and had a substantially smaller battery. Nougat and EMUI 5 is brilliant however as it has the app drawer option finally available. I also like the quick toggles and notification shade. I wish we had the transparent notification shade and more gestures like the high end devices. Rooting is very risky at the moment as there is too many steps. It's disappointing that the UI elements were disabled in the software
What is the price difference between these two models on your region. That is also one of the biggest factor for comparison.
Camera - is better on 8 and does well woth same MP of pixels for rear cam amd performs well in low light as well. With that said, 6X is definitely not a bad option for camwra, it does well dor sure.
Battery -better on 6X, i think, with 3340 mAh but as honor 8 has a smalled screen, it may be neck to neck here.
Design- both has it own cons and pros. 8 is simply awesome in blue but with glass design you may need to be careful as it may be slippery. On the other hand, 6X looks stunning in metal body but camera bump is bad and could be damagee easily if not managed. Design wise, 8 is better on any day.
Custom rom development- 8 has got many roms than 6X and i dont we may see much here for 6X.
Android O update- not officially disclosed but 8 will get (99.99%) and there are lot of confusion on 6X update but it should get (99.98% LOL).
Screen size- 5.2 of Honor 8 is much handy and easily carried in pocket than 6X but if you dont have issues with 5.5 inch screen.
Dual sim- your region may not have dual sim support (Indian variant has this issue)
Honor 8 was a upper mid range flagship level phone and 6X is excellent mid range model.
Rest your choice :good:
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I find battery life with the 3000mah battery in my P8 Lite 2017 mediocre. The phone shipped with Nougat out of the box so I don't have experience with the Kirin 655 on Marshmallow. However, my Huawei P8 had great battery life on Marshmallow even though it used a power hungry Kirin 930 and had a substantially smaller battery. Nougat and EMUI 5 is brilliant however as it has the app drawer option finally available. I also like the quick toggles and notification shade. I wish we had the transparent notification shade and more gestures like the high end devices. Rooting is very risky at the moment as there is too many steps. It's disappointing that the UI elements were disabled in the software
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I agree, the drawer is way better, using a launcher could help even if this wouldn't happened already with the upgrade to EMUI 5 but giving the chance to the user to choose the home style is a must. For transparent notification menu, there's a voice in the local.prop file in root/system/emui/lite/prop that with a little change of a Boolean value from true to false, gives transparent notification panel and enables the camera to shoot raw pictures (if didn't enabled already by default), but could have an impact on UI with some lags while scrolling. I had rooted my phone 3 weeks after that i bought it and even if harder than other phones, it was essential to enable an adblock and another feature not available by default on all 6X models, it's the call record feature. Some countries have it enabled from beginning, other not because more restrictive in privacy laws. But here on XDA i found everything that was necessary to do it
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What is the price difference between these two models on your region. That is also one of the biggest factor for comparison.
Camera - is better on 8 and does well woth same MP of pixels for rear cam amd performs well in low light as well. With that said, 6X is definitely not a bad option for camwra, it does well dor sure.
Battery -better on 6X, i think, with 3340 mAh but as honor 8 has a smalled screen, it may be neck to neck here.
Design- both has it own cons and pros. 8 is simply awesome in blue but with glass design you may need to be careful as it may be slippery. On the other hand, 6X looks stunning in metal body but camera bump is bad and could be damagee easily if not managed. Design wise, 8 is better on any day.
Custom rom development- 8 has got many roms than 6X and i dont we may see much here for 6X.
Android O update- not officially disclosed but 8 will get (99.99%) and there are lot of confusion on 6X update but it should get (99.98% LOL).
Screen size- 5.2 of Honor 8 is much handy and easily carried in pocket than 6X but if you dont have issues with 5.5 inch screen.
Dual sim- your region may not have dual sim support (Indian variant has this issue)
Honor 8 was a upper mid range flagship level phone and 6X is excellent mid range model.
Rest your choice :good:
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By the time Honor 8 was released, it was a high end flagship level phone. But since OEMs are very quick, it is considered as mid-range now.
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Torn between the Oneplus 6 and Huawei P20 pro

Hello
I have a 2.5 year old Nexus 5x and am seriously thinking about getting a new phone. I've narrowed it down to two choices.
The Oneplus 6 (8gb/128gb) that I could get for around 550€ with the student discount. The phone is everything I ever wished for, except for the camera, which I fear might be a downgrade from Nexus 5x and the not so good customer service.
The other one is Huawei p20 pro, which I could get for 570€ from my carrier. It is a great phone, but I really dislike the EMUI. I was not very impressed with the camera (I've seen some mixed reviews from people). Hardware is amazing, but I really dislike their postprocessing (the oversharpening and oversaturated colours) and I've read that gcam port is probably unlikely because of the Kirin processor. I also don't know how Huawei phones hold out long term (speed, lagging, software updates...).
I plan to keep the phone for 2-3 years. Things that are important to me are stock software and I also want a good camera (at least on par with my nexus 5x). I don't game and I mostly use the phone for calling, texting, listening to music, taking pictures and browsing the internet. It is important to me that the phone stays fast and doesn't lag throught it's lifetime and that it gets enough software updates.
Any insight would be appreciated.
Edit: Decided to go with the Oneplus 6. Thank you all for your answers!
I'm having both of them, and boy.. You can't imagine how much I hate EMUI. It's a nice phone, I rly like the Twilight color with the Black frame (switched the Backcover) but it's a pain to flash, stock EMUI looks like **** and overall I'm just enjoying my OP6 way more then I do the P20 Pro. The Camera ain't that bad, but compared to the P20 Pro it's quality is just poor. But that's a thing I can safely survive with.
Had a P10 Pro and EMUI is simply horrible. I put it up against my 5t and the 5t won. I also recall reading that they no longer allow you to get an unlock code for the bootloader.
I have both devices as well. The camera on the p20 pro is definitely knock out, but if you value software experience at all, you'll hate it. EMUI is a clunky mess. Updating the device is a pain, it's really heavy handed with closing background apps (Android messages for web won't run consistently, for example) and in general, it's ugly imo.
I carry the oneplus 6 each day because I enjoy using it. I have been switching sims each weekend when I value pictures of my kids, etc. Ultimately, it'll find it's way to eBay.
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Ultimately, it'll find it's way to eBay.
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Try selling on Swappa. I've sold 6 phones though them in the last year and much better than eBay. I think I sold every one of my phones in less than a week.
Emui is not the end of the world. If you dislike it I would pick the OnePlus device. Btoh have pros and cons though. Huawei latest flagships don't have the slowdown like samsungs. So you can get the bells and whistles plus a consistent experience. Most importantly comparable battery with all the extras.
Like most Chinese oem's they all want to be apple/Samsung.
OnePlus is stockksh on a 1080p panel with the best hardware a available. So of course it's fast. Average device across the board. Biggest pro is extra hour of sot vs most phones(heavy user). Root and dev community.
Huawei will not be giving out bootloader codes after July(google actual date) but stock Android is available for a good majority of devices if interested.
op6 > p20 pro
my p20 pro got sluggish AF a month after usage.
op6 remains fast as day 1
I've seen videos of severe scrolling lag in basic apps like contacts on p20. It seems like EMUI has some issues it needs to work out first.
I just sold my p20 after using it for just a few hours LTE speeds were slower (55mpbs vs OP6 pulling 78mbps). As well as a bug utilizing the navbar on the device was buggy. When you enable navbar, it doesn't disable the fingerprint sensor from acting like a home button....so you have two home buttons side by side.
I would like to add that the costumer service is incredible (at least if you are a European citizen). I was never a fan of Samsung's/Huaweis aftersale support since it took me once 3 weeks to change the display of an SG S6.
Changing the display and the back cover of the OP3 costed me approximately 130€ with free DHL Express shipping. It took 3 working days until it was in GER again. I shipped it on Monday(early) and received the repaired smartphone on Wednesday evening (express courier).
For the software part: You will have 2 major updates and 36 months security updates (check your for reference: https://www.google.de/amp/s/www.xda-developers.com/oneplus-software-maintenance-schedule/amp/ )
Google port and custom roms is a big plus for the OP6. Camera is more then decent, it won't produce pictures like the Pixel 2, but the white balance / colour profile is pretty good ( maybe a bit to satured reds/orange - if you want to be very picky).
Overall i would go for the OP6 anytime.
I've owned a Huawei Mate 9 Pro, an Huawei Mate 10 and an Honor View 10. This must tell you that EMUI isn't as bad as all that. It isn't really.
The cameras and the camera software are outstanding. They even put my current Samsung S9+ to shame.
My concerns were :
Software updates - not too frequent, plus they like to 'authorise' a device for an update. Unlike OP where you can just use a VPN and get the update regardless of where you are, here you have to wait for authorisation or 'pay' and get the update from Funky Huawei.
I found on occasion, that despite some settings, things like some background apps were being killed or frozen. Stuff like Android Wear or the ThreeInTouch Wifi app. Some widgets wouldn't update. I don't think, going forward that Huawei are going to let you unlock bootloaders.
If you value a simpler OS that is updated and easy to root, unlock the bootloader and camera is secondary - get the OP.
If you adore having excellent photos, then get the P20 Pro - you won't regret it.
If the only thing concerning you about the OP6 is the camera (in comparison to 5X) - having both devices I can reassure you OP6 camera is miles better than Nexus 5X. And I wouldn't suggest buying Huawei to anyone. I think the oneplus offers the most nexus like software experience between all the OEM's right now
I can't speak about the P20 but I had a Mate 10 Pro and I sold it as I just didn't like EMUI at all. Compared to OOS it's just bad.
You'll better software support on the OnePlus 6. Huawei's software support track record isn't great. P20 Pro probably won't see Android P till Early 2019. OnePlus are offering Android P Betas right now.
From the comparisons I've seen online. The OnePlus 6 is faster, more RAM, camera is pretty even with both winning over the other in different situations.
The OS is great superior over EMUI and you will get update after update with OnePlus. The development community is far superior and of course insane battery with the fastest charging available with OnePlus dash charging.
I have the OnePlus 6 obviously, but faster phone, faster charging, stock like OS great camera and better support with updates and now OnePlus has come out and confirmed... 2 years OS updates and 3 YEARS security updates. It's a no brainier in my opinion.
Thank you all for your answers! I ordered the 1+6 today together with the nylon case. Really excited for it to come.

Which cell is just as good as the 20x mate?

What After adding to Huawei blacklist Trump that big screen cell phone would be good to buy. I love my 20x mate but let's be honest this will affect a lot to Huawei and q out your operating system and my OS) or is apps that has Google market are going to happen years it is possible that the factory only dedicated to continue selling in China and no longer internationally.
I honestly don't think there are any as good.
I didn't want to buy a Huawei because I'd much rather have an unlocked bootloader, but for me, the big screen, active pen, big battery, and fast cpu are too important to give up.
If you don't mind a slower CPU and no pen, but still want the huge screen, go with the Mi Max series.
If you want the pen, go with the Samsung Note 9.
I you just want an overall good phone, then there are plenty of other options depending on your priorities.
But I'd stick with the Mate 20 X. We shouldn't be affected that much. I'd guessing there will still be software updates for next year or so. I just bought mine 2 weeks ago and don't regret it at all.
I want a mate 20x another brand y :laugh:
Cmon, u really run already.
All will be good again in one way or another [emoji1787][emoji23]
ZenFone 6!! Looks promising.
Actually i would go for zenfone as first choice, then mi max and in last place this could be samsung note series, depends on what battery will be in 10 release.
I'm thinking about the Oppo Reno 10x Zoom, nice looking phone with full flat screen/no notch, camera upgrade or the Nubia Red Magic 3 with a 90Hz screen and also a 5000mAh battery. I now that that both are 6.65 inch and smaller then the Mate 20 X, but i hide the notch from the begin, so i think the difference wil not be huge.
The ZenFone 6 is a no go for me, because it doesn't have a amoled screen. I really don't want a new phone without it.
robsmith11 said:
I honestly don't think there are any as good.
I didn't want to buy a Huawei because I'd much rather have an unlocked bootloader, but for me, the big screen, active pen, big battery, and fast cpu are too important to give up.
If you don't mind a slower CPU and no pen, but still want the huge screen, go with the Mi Max series.
If you want the pen, go with the Samsung Note 9.
I you just want an overall good phone, then there are plenty of other options depending on your priorities.
But I'd stick with the Mate 20 X. We shouldn't be affected that much. I'd guessing there will still be software updates for next year or so. I just bought mine 2 weeks ago and don't regret it at all.
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Yeah I am in the same boat...I mean already the Mate 20 x looks like a Hobbit compared to where I was coming from mediapad X2 and Sony Z3 Tablet Compact so I am having a hard time adjusting to the much smaller size but of course, the hardware itself is WAY above both of those phablets I had before.
All of these other phones are much narrower and smaller than the 20 X. A friend of mine wanted to try the OP7 Pro and we went to T-Mobile yesterday and he bought one to use along side his 20 X but after a day he said it's probably going back as it's just way too small. The camera isn't as good and the battery life isn't even close to the 20 X. My advice would be to keep the 20 X until another manufacturer decides to make a phone as large as the 20 X.
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All of these other phones are much narrower and smaller than the 20 X. A friend of mine wanted to try the OP7 Pro and we went to T-Mobile yesterday and he bought one to use along side his 20 X but after a day he said it's probably going back as it's just way too small. The camera isn't as good and the battery life isn't even close to the 20 X. My advice would be to keep the 20 X until another manufacturer decides to make a phone as large as the 20 X.
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But the OP7 Pro looks smaller because it has curved glass, what i really don't like.
I still think it's all going to blow over and in a few months the wotsit in a wig and china will come to some sort of agreement, somewhat annoying that Donald making a decision like this affects us non Americans!
But, if the worst happened, as long as the play store etc was ok then I'd probably just carry on and keep using the Mate 20 X, Android P works fine for me so I can live with the phone staying as it is for another 12 months or so.
The only tempting part will be when the Pixel 4 and Note 10 are released and seeing what they are bringing with them, but they'd have to offer something ridiculously special which i doubt they will do
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But the OP7 Pro looks smaller because it has curved glass, what i really don't like.
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The OP7 Pro also has a 19.5:9 aspect ratio which is skinnier than the Mate 20 X's 18.7:9 and the crappy curved glass doesn't help. It sucks with phones when you live in the US. Not a lot of Global devices support all the US LTE bands.
Hi guys,
What other phone is just as good as the 20x ?
Answer is really simple : NONE.
Please don't get me wrong : I am by no means a Huawei/Honor fan.
Quite the opposite...
But let's face it : what other manufacturer offer a display that is close or above 7" ?
Answer here is really simple : there are only 2.5 manufacturers doing this :
- Xiaomi with the mi Max 3 ;
- Honor with the Note 10 and 8x Max ;
- Huawei with the Mate 20x.
Compare the 20x with the mi Max 3 and the Honor 8x max is of course not a question. They're simply not playing in the same league.
One may say whatever he wants about the Kirin SoC, but comparing a Kirin 980 with e snapdragon 636 is just not fair.
And comparing an IPS display with an OLED one isn't a fair comparison either.
So that leaves the Honor Note 10.
But it may have the same issues as Huawei. about Android.
And to make things clear : the developlment of Android has been halted to Huawei.
But :
- that doesn't mean that the past is getting rid off ; so if the phone is working right now, it will continue to work right after...
- Huawei still has access to the free source aosp and has enough power to continue to offer some updates based on that. And honestly : who is buying Huawei for the frequent updates ? You want a phone that is updated constantly ? There's only one manufacturer to go : Xiaomi... monthly updates for all their phones.
Just my own thoughts and expressing a personal opinion. I don't try to force my views on this upon any member of this community. So please, do not flame me if you disagree...
Regards.
I had all 4 phones, now i only have the M20X which is so much better the the other 3.
Then comes Note 10, Mi max 3 and 8X max.
And im satisfied as it is, so i can live with it 1 year more if.
I just hope Ark OS soon will be released, im ready to support that vs Trump/US/Google/Android no matter what. This fake president shall not decide my choice of phone.
Even if I am upset about Huawei system update policies, I've never been so comfortable with a phone before (well, maybe the Ascend Mate 7).
- The REAL dual speakers are incredibly outstanding. My wife ditched the iPad Mini-bluetooth speaker pair to start watching anything video-related on my 20X with me. We are really impressed.
- Speaking of multimedia, the screen is simply gorgeous.
- I hadn't ANY issue with ANY game. Period. I know the 855 is all around the news today, but this Kirin is nowhere behind. It flies.
- Calls are loud and crisp, seomthing which is really important for me.
- We have an LG Smart TV with webOS. It took me like 1 minute to launch the desktop from the 20X. I've tested it a couple of times, but I think this feature is something I will start using more frequently in the future, for sure.
- One of the best cameras around, even in night mode. No, no GCam needed, it does its work effortlessly and fluidly, something every frigging flagship camera should do (and not every one of them do).
Even if I only get security patches for the rest of its life, I'm keeping this beauty for a LONG time.
I also love the speakers, what phone has two real speakers? Mostly the second speaker is the call speaker now and that's sounds bad. The same with the IR blaster, what new phone has that?
I wish that 5G version was a nice upgrade (WQHD+ screen, higher ppi, 90hz, under–screen fingerprint, more ram/storage, no notch, more zoom camera), but it looks more like a downgrade.
https://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_mate_20_x_5g_bags_3c_certification_in_china-news-37546.php
Oukitel K9 7.12" with 6000mAH battery
I have this device
looks like a 20x clone minus some of the polish-not as fast not as loud but am sure can be improved a lot
has all US bands like 20x so works great here
stock Android 9
I got the SP flash tool flashable ROM
attached are the ROM contents
wonder if anyone could take up this for development
I picked it up from AliExpress for $179
Great great battery life better than 20x imo (but then performance is a price you pay-could be the Mediatek versus Kirin and just s/w ui polish missing)
EDIT it does have OEM bootloader unlocker option that you can choose and set active
not tried it yet-maybe it is a simple fastboot unlocker command without code (don't know untl I try or I might ask the company contacts who sent me the ROM and instructions etc)
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Mediatek versus Kirin and just s/w ui polish missing)
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Lmao as soon as I saw mediatek, instant turn off for me
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Lmao as soon as I saw mediatek, instant turn off for me
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Lmao as soon as I saw mediatek, instant turn off for me
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good you got a laugh from the wrong end he he
for calls, sms, mms, internet and most apps same result for 1/3rd the price
the 0.3 cumulative seconds saved over time did not change my life (doubt changes anyone's in reality)
definitely the 20x feels better no doubt having used both
asked a serious question and posed facts without embellishment
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I had all 4 phones, now i only have the M20X which is so much better the the other 3.
Then comes Note 10, Mi max 3 and 8X max.
And im satisfied as it is, so i can live with it 1 year more if.
I just hope Ark OS soon will be released, im ready to support that vs Trump/US/Google/Android no matter what. This fake president shall not decide my choice of phone.
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the mi max 3 imo was the best among the lot and I liked it more than the 20x ...the lack of network bands support (only 4 and 5 for Tmobile and ATT, and ATT does not even broadcast on 4 in my state, 5 is very spotty-so it was mostly on 3g or umts) otherwise mi max 3 with miui candy was the best also from balance, weight and feel standpoint
too bad no mi max 4 and mi mix 4 will never get a 6.9 variant
it seems to me that the OEMs are walking away from the large screens
why? 8x max came in the 7.2" first that the mate 20x eventually got
now 9x max is only coming in the 6.59" (as is the 9x)
then you have Xiaomi not doing the max 4
so that tells me the 6.9 to 7.2 era is done or on a pause for now
instead get 6.6 and 6.7 super skinny phones purporting to be large screen phones when they are not due to the elongated aspect ratios
Unfortunately true, aspect 19.5x9 or new 20x9 is killing size, 6.7inch samsung a70 or op 7 pro have real size of old 16x9 phone 6 inch. This is nothing.
I think also that they kill 7 inch products to make space for foldable phones which costs few times more...
But still I hope Huawei will make 30x! Not just hope, but really think it is real.

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