Which cell is just as good as the 20x mate? - Huawei Mate 20 X Guides, News, & Discussion

What After adding to Huawei blacklist Trump that big screen cell phone would be good to buy. I love my 20x mate but let's be honest this will affect a lot to Huawei and q out your operating system and my OS) or is apps that has Google market are going to happen years it is possible that the factory only dedicated to continue selling in China and no longer internationally.

I honestly don't think there are any as good.
I didn't want to buy a Huawei because I'd much rather have an unlocked bootloader, but for me, the big screen, active pen, big battery, and fast cpu are too important to give up.
If you don't mind a slower CPU and no pen, but still want the huge screen, go with the Mi Max series.
If you want the pen, go with the Samsung Note 9.
I you just want an overall good phone, then there are plenty of other options depending on your priorities.
But I'd stick with the Mate 20 X. We shouldn't be affected that much. I'd guessing there will still be software updates for next year or so. I just bought mine 2 weeks ago and don't regret it at all.

I want a mate 20x another brand y :laugh:

Cmon, u really run already.
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ZenFone 6!! Looks promising.

Actually i would go for zenfone as first choice, then mi max and in last place this could be samsung note series, depends on what battery will be in 10 release.

I'm thinking about the Oppo Reno 10x Zoom, nice looking phone with full flat screen/no notch, camera upgrade or the Nubia Red Magic 3 with a 90Hz screen and also a 5000mAh battery. I now that that both are 6.65 inch and smaller then the Mate 20 X, but i hide the notch from the begin, so i think the difference wil not be huge.
The ZenFone 6 is a no go for me, because it doesn't have a amoled screen. I really don't want a new phone without it.

robsmith11 said:
I honestly don't think there are any as good.
I didn't want to buy a Huawei because I'd much rather have an unlocked bootloader, but for me, the big screen, active pen, big battery, and fast cpu are too important to give up.
If you don't mind a slower CPU and no pen, but still want the huge screen, go with the Mi Max series.
If you want the pen, go with the Samsung Note 9.
I you just want an overall good phone, then there are plenty of other options depending on your priorities.
But I'd stick with the Mate 20 X. We shouldn't be affected that much. I'd guessing there will still be software updates for next year or so. I just bought mine 2 weeks ago and don't regret it at all.
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Yeah I am in the same boat...I mean already the Mate 20 x looks like a Hobbit compared to where I was coming from mediapad X2 and Sony Z3 Tablet Compact so I am having a hard time adjusting to the much smaller size but of course, the hardware itself is WAY above both of those phablets I had before.

All of these other phones are much narrower and smaller than the 20 X. A friend of mine wanted to try the OP7 Pro and we went to T-Mobile yesterday and he bought one to use along side his 20 X but after a day he said it's probably going back as it's just way too small. The camera isn't as good and the battery life isn't even close to the 20 X. My advice would be to keep the 20 X until another manufacturer decides to make a phone as large as the 20 X.

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All of these other phones are much narrower and smaller than the 20 X. A friend of mine wanted to try the OP7 Pro and we went to T-Mobile yesterday and he bought one to use along side his 20 X but after a day he said it's probably going back as it's just way too small. The camera isn't as good and the battery life isn't even close to the 20 X. My advice would be to keep the 20 X until another manufacturer decides to make a phone as large as the 20 X.
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But the OP7 Pro looks smaller because it has curved glass, what i really don't like.

I still think it's all going to blow over and in a few months the wotsit in a wig and china will come to some sort of agreement, somewhat annoying that Donald making a decision like this affects us non Americans!
But, if the worst happened, as long as the play store etc was ok then I'd probably just carry on and keep using the Mate 20 X, Android P works fine for me so I can live with the phone staying as it is for another 12 months or so.
The only tempting part will be when the Pixel 4 and Note 10 are released and seeing what they are bringing with them, but they'd have to offer something ridiculously special which i doubt they will do

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But the OP7 Pro looks smaller because it has curved glass, what i really don't like.
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The OP7 Pro also has a 19.5:9 aspect ratio which is skinnier than the Mate 20 X's 18.7:9 and the crappy curved glass doesn't help. It sucks with phones when you live in the US. Not a lot of Global devices support all the US LTE bands.

Hi guys,
What other phone is just as good as the 20x ?
Answer is really simple : NONE.
Please don't get me wrong : I am by no means a Huawei/Honor fan.
Quite the opposite...
But let's face it : what other manufacturer offer a display that is close or above 7" ?
Answer here is really simple : there are only 2.5 manufacturers doing this :
- Xiaomi with the mi Max 3 ;
- Honor with the Note 10 and 8x Max ;
- Huawei with the Mate 20x.
Compare the 20x with the mi Max 3 and the Honor 8x max is of course not a question. They're simply not playing in the same league.
One may say whatever he wants about the Kirin SoC, but comparing a Kirin 980 with e snapdragon 636 is just not fair.
And comparing an IPS display with an OLED one isn't a fair comparison either.
So that leaves the Honor Note 10.
But it may have the same issues as Huawei. about Android.
And to make things clear : the developlment of Android has been halted to Huawei.
But :
- that doesn't mean that the past is getting rid off ; so if the phone is working right now, it will continue to work right after...
- Huawei still has access to the free source aosp and has enough power to continue to offer some updates based on that. And honestly : who is buying Huawei for the frequent updates ? You want a phone that is updated constantly ? There's only one manufacturer to go : Xiaomi... monthly updates for all their phones.
Just my own thoughts and expressing a personal opinion. I don't try to force my views on this upon any member of this community. So please, do not flame me if you disagree...
Regards.

I had all 4 phones, now i only have the M20X which is so much better the the other 3.
Then comes Note 10, Mi max 3 and 8X max.
And im satisfied as it is, so i can live with it 1 year more if.
I just hope Ark OS soon will be released, im ready to support that vs Trump/US/Google/Android no matter what. This fake president shall not decide my choice of phone.

Even if I am upset about Huawei system update policies, I've never been so comfortable with a phone before (well, maybe the Ascend Mate 7).
- The REAL dual speakers are incredibly outstanding. My wife ditched the iPad Mini-bluetooth speaker pair to start watching anything video-related on my 20X with me. We are really impressed.
- Speaking of multimedia, the screen is simply gorgeous.
- I hadn't ANY issue with ANY game. Period. I know the 855 is all around the news today, but this Kirin is nowhere behind. It flies.
- Calls are loud and crisp, seomthing which is really important for me.
- We have an LG Smart TV with webOS. It took me like 1 minute to launch the desktop from the 20X. I've tested it a couple of times, but I think this feature is something I will start using more frequently in the future, for sure.
- One of the best cameras around, even in night mode. No, no GCam needed, it does its work effortlessly and fluidly, something every frigging flagship camera should do (and not every one of them do).
Even if I only get security patches for the rest of its life, I'm keeping this beauty for a LONG time.

I also love the speakers, what phone has two real speakers? Mostly the second speaker is the call speaker now and that's sounds bad. The same with the IR blaster, what new phone has that?
I wish that 5G version was a nice upgrade (WQHD+ screen, higher ppi, 90hz, under–screen fingerprint, more ram/storage, no notch, more zoom camera), but it looks more like a downgrade.
https://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_mate_20_x_5g_bags_3c_certification_in_china-news-37546.php

Oukitel K9 7.12" with 6000mAH battery
I have this device
looks like a 20x clone minus some of the polish-not as fast not as loud but am sure can be improved a lot
has all US bands like 20x so works great here
stock Android 9
I got the SP flash tool flashable ROM
attached are the ROM contents
wonder if anyone could take up this for development
I picked it up from AliExpress for $179
Great great battery life better than 20x imo (but then performance is a price you pay-could be the Mediatek versus Kirin and just s/w ui polish missing)
EDIT it does have OEM bootloader unlocker option that you can choose and set active
not tried it yet-maybe it is a simple fastboot unlocker command without code (don't know untl I try or I might ask the company contacts who sent me the ROM and instructions etc)

mac231us said:
Mediatek versus Kirin and just s/w ui polish missing)
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Lmao as soon as I saw mediatek, instant turn off for me
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Lmao as soon as I saw mediatek, instant turn off for me
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Lmao as soon as I saw mediatek, instant turn off for me
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good you got a laugh from the wrong end he he
for calls, sms, mms, internet and most apps same result for 1/3rd the price
the 0.3 cumulative seconds saved over time did not change my life (doubt changes anyone's in reality)
definitely the 20x feels better no doubt having used both
asked a serious question and posed facts without embellishment
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BigDisplay said:
I had all 4 phones, now i only have the M20X which is so much better the the other 3.
Then comes Note 10, Mi max 3 and 8X max.
And im satisfied as it is, so i can live with it 1 year more if.
I just hope Ark OS soon will be released, im ready to support that vs Trump/US/Google/Android no matter what. This fake president shall not decide my choice of phone.
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the mi max 3 imo was the best among the lot and I liked it more than the 20x ...the lack of network bands support (only 4 and 5 for Tmobile and ATT, and ATT does not even broadcast on 4 in my state, 5 is very spotty-so it was mostly on 3g or umts) otherwise mi max 3 with miui candy was the best also from balance, weight and feel standpoint
too bad no mi max 4 and mi mix 4 will never get a 6.9 variant
it seems to me that the OEMs are walking away from the large screens
why? 8x max came in the 7.2" first that the mate 20x eventually got
now 9x max is only coming in the 6.59" (as is the 9x)
then you have Xiaomi not doing the max 4
so that tells me the 6.9 to 7.2 era is done or on a pause for now
instead get 6.6 and 6.7 super skinny phones purporting to be large screen phones when they are not due to the elongated aspect ratios

Unfortunately true, aspect 19.5x9 or new 20x9 is killing size, 6.7inch samsung a70 or op 7 pro have real size of old 16x9 phone 6 inch. This is nothing.
I think also that they kill 7 inch products to make space for foldable phones which costs few times more...
But still I hope Huawei will make 30x! Not just hope, but really think it is real.

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Galaxy Note 4 or Huawei P8 Max?

Hi!,
I'm currently owner of Samsung Galaxy Note 4 and I'm thinking to switch to P8 Max ? Which one is better in your opinion? TW (lags, freezes, Samsungs bloatware, knox flag wnen rooting) and some Amoled issues (pink white, screen burn-in) are kinda annoying...
Cheers
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QBANIN said:
Hi!,
I'm currently owner of Samsung Galaxy Note 4 and I'm thinking to switch to P8 Max ? Which one is better in your opinion? TW (lags, freezes, Samsungs bloatware, knox flag wnen rooting) and some Amoled issues (pink white, screen burn-in) are kinda annoying...
Cheers
QBANIN
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no bro just buy mate 8 it is way better than p8max in term off all
i had p8max and note 5
mate 8 is way better and faster and desgin is fantastic
Huawei has potential...but...
Here's the thing,
While Huawei was on to something with the P8Max, any Sony Z Ultra fan was salivating at the prospect/specs of this phone, the phone, much like the company, leaves you wanting.
-Lack of support, no true western development community...support for the phone is well, Chinese. Which is to be expected, given the intended market. But, there's no footing for it. No solid base of people looking to take risks to dev for it. Why? I have no clue.
-The not so premium device. Take your pick of what that means; mid tiered specs, bland UI (although the double tap screenshot is slick), average camera, average headphones, lack of accessory support, bland user forum experience.
This is a premium device in idea/thought. It is not a premium device in reality.
-It is still on 5.1. Let that sink in. This is Huawei's premium device, that is still sitting on 5.1. No I don't want to argue that the Note 4 and 5 were on 5.1 for a long time. Those phones were NOT marketed as premium devices. They were marketed as top business devices. The reviewers, fanboys, consumers tagged it as a premium device. It has premium device status indeed. However, the P8Max, is/was marketed as a premium device. Think about someone giving you VIP tickets to the Playboy mansion. You're stoked and excited to meet Heff, the pool, the...well everything V.I.P. but when you get there you were actually given VIP passes to sideline sidewalk area where you get to see the real VIPs drive into the mansion. That's what Huawei did here.
The phone is a great one off idea that Huawei took a chance on but fell flat by not pushing it as a device worth choosing over an iPhone, Note 4,5 or S6 and providing the reasons why. The VIP program is laughable. As a result the phone was more of a gimmick than a serious piece of hardware. People talk about how huge it is and how dumb people look while making calls from it, they never want the specs, because well who cares. Then there are the cliche joke, you compensating for something guy? You can't read the screen on a regular phone?
It was more of the same, its just like its sibling, the P8 which has the better selfie camera no (because folks just look at numbers.) The Ascend Mate 7 was a healthy compromise/choice over this and its an older stable mate.
So to wrap up. Your Note 4, I had a Note 4 SE 910U, has better specs, better screen, removable battery, better camera, better supports, easier rooting, actual ROM development community, long list of accessory supports, better band support, forums and the list goes on....
The P8Max is a bloody amazing root for Huawei device road map but when you have nothing to compare it to it comes up short and miserably so when you compare it to the other flagships available.
IMHO, stick to a Note.
Huawei 6.8" gimmick is near the end of the course. There marketing team sucks and they have no plans to change their business to compete with Apple and Samsung on the Jailbreak, ROM markets.
Cheers.
As for the Mate 8. Same problem, lack of community. The specs are great if you just want the phone as is and don't plan to do anything but make calls and surf the web. But you're here. Seeing that, you want ROMs and control over customizing your phones.
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rowihel2012 said:
no bro just buy mate 8 it is way better than p8max in term off all
i had p8max and note 5
mate 8 is way better and faster and desgin is fantastic
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Can you elaborate please...
How is it faster that the Note 5 and P8Max? Faster to game on? Edit videos? Music? Snap pictures? Type on?
How is better? What does it do better?
Is there something different that we may not know yet or can read on the internet?
Not to be rude but I ordered the Mate 8 and LeTV Max and the old LeTV Max blew the Mate 8 out of the water gaming, video editing on device, and in almost every other department except battery life.
Curious and looking forward to your reply.
Cheers.

Pixel xl or mate 9

What do you guys think is better pixel xl or mate 9? I currently have a pixel xl 128gb and I am not really enjoying it too much.
Both good phones but for better support stick with the XL but if you didn't have the XL I'd say get the Mate 9. Both great devices. Can't go wrong with either one. Mate 9 battery is better and sound. Screen and camera are better on the Pixel. That's the main gains and trade offs between them both.
The Mate 9 offers an expansion slot for micro sd cards and has an infrared port for controlling your TV etc.
Mate 9. Buying new Nexus device upon release hasn't been fun since nexus 4 for me. I normally wait a year or so till price drops.
Pixel xl
The most important feature for me is screen real estate so the Mate 9 takes the crown.
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There's really no competition for it right now
Pixel XL camera is only good with HDR enabled. Otherwise, its a piece of trash tbh. It lacks OIS so its not good. I had Pixel XL for 1 month, its good in network reception when compared to Samsung devices. Camera is debate able. I looked into Huawei mate 9, and its amazing device! It has strong network chip that supports LTE cat 12/13, similar to pixel xl and g5. Mate 9 has more bands enabled for WCDMA and LTE. For me, $1K CAD price, i would pick mate 9 since its android, or iphone 7 plus (if i didn't hate IOS and closed ecosystem).
Pixel XL isn't worth such a high price, if you look at it objectively, its just not.
But do your research and see what you prefer, in terms of usage and what not. For general to enthusiastic users, mate 9 or oneplus 3T are good devices.
jordy787 said:
What do you guys think is better pixel xl or mate 9? I currently have a pixel xl 128gb and I am not really enjoying it too much.
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I use both on a daily basis. Pixel XL 128gb is my personal phone, Mate 9 is work issued.
Since you posted in the Mate 9 forum, you will get a lot of Mate 9 love. And I understand that because I love my Mate 9 too. I love both the Pixel XL and the Mate 9. When you say that you are not enjoying it too much, do you mean that you are bored with it? Because I am too. I guess that is what Vanilla Android is. But the Pixel will always be the better phone. The fact that it is pure Vanilla Android, the smoothness of its UI and will always be in the latest version is what you paid for. The camera is rated best camera by every single reviewer, and even in my own comparison. Screen is sharper, specially if you use daydream which the Mate 9 isnt compatible with. And even if it is compatible, its screen PPI wont be as enjoyable as the Pixels. You get unlimited full res photo backup (which is a pretty big deal for me as I have moved my entire lifes photo collection to Google Photos)
Yes im bored with the Pixel too. When I got the Mate 9 it was like a breath of fresh air. Screen is bigger and the UI seems to be more "colorful". Camera is also pretty good. But the Pixel will still best it. After the honeymoon phase of my new Mate 9, it got boring too. As with every device I own. In my opinion, battery is better with the Mate 9. But not by much. The Pixel already lasts me a whole day. Both are on Android Nougat, but guess who will receive first the next major iteration of Android (O) ? And even Android (P)? You get dual sim support which is nice to have (but doesnt really matter to me as work issues its own phones).
So if I had to choose only 1, id stay with my Pixel XL. The Pixel is the better phone (in my opinion) especially when you take into account its long term use (future upgradeability). But if you are a gadget freak like me and change phones all the time, it probably wont matter. As soon as the next gen Pixel is out ill get my hands on one.
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What do you guys think is better pixel xl or mate 9? I currently have a pixel xl 128gb and I am not really enjoying it too much.
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It's not like you can buy a Pixel XL anyway. They haven't been in stock since November and won't be in stock again until March. By then, a lot of newer phones will be out that blow the Pixel away. If you want a new phone now, the Mate 9 is your choice. It's a solid phone.
bimmerboii said:
I use both on a daily basis. Pixel XL 128gb is my personal phone, Mate 9 is work issued.
Since you posted in the Mate 9 forum, you will get a lot of Mate 9 love. And I understand that because I love my Mate 9 too. I love both the Pixel XL and the Mate 9. When you say that you are not enjoying it too much, do you mean that you are bored with it? Because I am too. I guess that is what Vanilla Android is. But the Pixel will always be the better phone. The fact that it is pure Vanilla Android, the smoothness of its UI and will always be in the latest version is what you paid for. The camera is rated best camera by every single reviewer, and even in my own comparison. Screen is sharper, specially if you use daydream which the Mate 9 isnt compatible with. And even if it is compatible, its screen PPI wont be as enjoyable as the Pixels. You get unlimited full res photo backup (which is a pretty big deal for me as I have moved my entire lifes photo collection to Google Photos)
Yes im bored with the Pixel too. When I got the Mate 9 it was like a breath of fresh air. Screen is bigger and the UI seems to be more "colorful". Camera is also pretty good. But the Pixel will still best it. After the honeymoon phase of my new Mate 9, it got boring too. As with every device I own. In my opinion, battery is better with the Mate 9. But not by much. The Pixel already lasts me a whole day. Both are on Android Nougat, but guess who will receive first the next major iteration of Android (O) ? And even Android (P)? You get dual sim support which is nice to have (but doesnt really matter to me as work issues its own phones).
So if I had to choose only 1, id stay with my Pixel XL. The Pixel is the better phone (in my opinion) especially when you take into account its long term use (future upgradeability). But if you are a gadget freak like me and change phones all the time, it probably wont matter. As soon as the next gen Pixel is out ill get my hands on one.
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I think I'm just bored of it because vanilla Android is plain. I have a Verizon model with locked bootloader which is AWFUL..So can't modify anything.Hopefully someone comes out with a 7.1.1 exploit. I use to have a mate 8 and loved it..Maybe I'll give the mate 9 a try in a month or so
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It's not like you can buy a Pixel XL anyway. They haven't been in stock since November and won't be in stock again until March. By then, a lot of newer phones will be out that blow the Pixel away. If you want a new phone now, the Mate 9 is your choice. It's a solid phone.
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I already have the pixel, but may give the mate 9 a try.
bimmerboii said:
I use both on a daily basis. Pixel XL 128gb is my personal phone, Mate 9 is work issued.
Since you posted in the Mate 9 forum, you will get a lot of Mate 9 love. And I understand that because I love my Mate 9 too. I love both the Pixel XL and the Mate 9. When you say that you are not enjoying it too much, do you mean that you are bored with it? Because I am too. I guess that is what Vanilla Android is. But the Pixel will always be the better phone. The fact that it is pure Vanilla Android, the smoothness of its UI and will always be in the latest version is what you paid for. The camera is rated best camera by every single reviewer, and even in my own comparison. Screen is sharper, specially if you use daydream which the Mate 9 isnt compatible with. And even if it is compatible, its screen PPI wont be as enjoyable as the Pixels. You get unlimited full res photo backup (which is a pretty big deal for me as I have moved my entire lifes photo collection to Google Photos)
Yes im bored with the Pixel too. When I got the Mate 9 it was like a breath of fresh air. Screen is bigger and the UI seems to be more "colorful". Camera is also pretty good. But the Pixel will still best it. After the honeymoon phase of my new Mate 9, it got boring too. As with every device I own. In my opinion, battery is better with the Mate 9. But not by much. The Pixel already lasts me a whole day. Both are on Android Nougat, but guess who will receive first the next major iteration of Android (O) ? And even Android (P)? You get dual sim support which is nice to have (but doesnt really matter to me as work issues its own phones).
So if I had to choose only 1, id stay with my Pixel XL. The Pixel is the better phone (in my opinion) especially when you take into account its long term use (future upgradeability). But if you are a gadget freak like me and change phones all the time, it probably wont matter. As soon as the next gen Pixel is out ill get my hands on one.
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Best honest response, and I've owned both and agree. Pixel XL 2 is so... Tempting. I looked and they go for $650, I'll wait until they go a little lower but it's tempting.
Jess813 said:
Best honest response, and I've owned both and agree. Pixel XL 2 is so... Tempting. I looked and they go for $650, I'll wait until they go a little lower but it's tempting.
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For me it's a no-brainer the mate 9 is the best device to have. I've owned both and I can attest that the mate 9 is a beast of a phone. It has the large screen great camera and great display although it's only 1080p. Feels very good and premium with its all aluminum housing. But what really separates this phone from all the others is really two things the first is the Kirin 960 processor and the 4000 milliamp battery. The processor was able to handle everything that I threw at it even high-end High intensive Graphics games and I had maybe 40-50 apps open at the same time and never experienced a freeze or slow down. But that's not even the best part the best part is that the battery I routinely use my phone at least 40-50 times a day and for long periods and I always got at least a day and a half sometimes two days of use from one charge. And it accomplish this feat by not putting a battery that makes it too bulky or too wide or something like that it's just a regular slim battery and it actually does get you through about 2 days of use. I love the phone and can't wait to purchase the 10 Pro despite the US government's warning. You know what I think about that warning I think it's a bunch of baloney because every single phone that we use whether it's a Samsung or an apple comes from a factory in China they're all made on the same assembly line so don't give me any of this stupid warning stuff.
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For me it's a no-brainer the mate 9 is the best device to have. I've owned both and I can attest that the mate 9 is a beast of a phone. It has the large screen great camera and great display although it's only 1080p. Feels very good and premium with its all aluminum housing. But what really separates this phone from all the others is really two things the first is the Kirin 960 processor and the 4000 milliamp battery. The processor was able to handle everything that I threw at it even high-end High intensive Graphics games and I had maybe 40-50 apps open at the same time and never experienced a freeze or slow down. But that's not even the best part the best part is that the battery I routinely use my phone at least 40-50 times a day and for long periods and I always got at least a day and a half sometimes two days of use from one charge. And it accomplish this feat by not putting a battery that makes it too bulky or too wide or something like that it's just a regular slim battery and it actually does get you through about 2 days of use. I love the phone and can't wait to purchase the 10 Pro despite the US government's warning. You know what I think about that warning I think it's a bunch of baloney because every single phone that we use whether it's a Samsung or an apple comes from a factory in China they're all made on the same assembly line so don't give me any of this stupid warning stuff.
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Agreed, the Mate 10 Pro or the Pixel will be my next phone. I am currently rocking the all black Mate 9, I have no complaints, but the Pixel line up is tempting. I'm keeping my eyes on Swappa and they have 2 Mate 10 Pro for around $550, not bad.

Worth the price increase over a 6X / alternatives

Mentioned this in the 6X forum, but figured I'll ask here, too.
I need a phone for travelling. My main phone is an iPhone 6S, but I want something a little cheaper and with dual SIM support so I can use my normal number with a another SIM whilst abroad. Having used Android way before iPhone, and owning a Shield Tablet and TV, figured it'd be a nice way to get back into Android.
I returned a OnePlus 3T last month because, although good, I didn't like the camera.
So, I'm looking for a budget device, that has a decent spec (occasional gaming) and pretty good camera, fingerprint scanner and possibly NFC for Android Pay. USB-C and fast charge would be nice.
I've been looking at the WileyFox Swift 2 which is about £180. Snapdragon 430, 3GB RAM, fingerprint scanner, NFC, USB-C and quick charge. Low res screen (720), slower CPU and 'okay' camera. Gorilla glass.
£40 more is the 6X, EU version has all of the above, but no USB-C, terrible screen quality in terms of durability and no oleohobic coating. Micro USB. Not sure on CPU performance.
Or the best of the bunch, the Honor 8. Only it's £180 more than the 6X.
Is it worth the price over the other 2, or is there something else I can look at. Xiaomi's seem good, but lack LTE 800mhz / band 20 and no NFC for the global versions of the Redmi Note 4, which ships in March.
The only thing I can say is that the Honor 8 is an amazing device, I got mine for 325€ during a sale and I haven't regretted it...
The camera is amazing! It is so much better than my old Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini, and it can shoot really sharp images (In good lightning)
However if there isn't that much light, images will become a little grainy (As on most smartphones)
Then we have the software... I almost got the Honor 7 in 2015 but I ended up not buying it because of the software (EMUI). But since I got such a great deal on the Honor 8 I decided to actually try it out and I must say EMUI 4.1 which I got the phone with was a lot different from my previous Android experience (Cyanogenmod 13) but it so many good features built in.
And today I got the EMUI 5 update and I must say, it's a lot closer to AOSP and I like it
Also this phone is very fast!
If you can get this phone for under 400€ then it's a great deal! I don't know that much about the other phones mentioned but I really recommend the Honor 8! Hope this helps you decide, if you have any questions regarding the Honor 8 feel free to ask
If you returned the oneplus3T because it wasn't good enough, nothing will please you.
Got myself upgrade from galaxy note 3.
I thought it was fast but honor 8 is faster in all aspects.
This is the best phone I used
The only thing I can say is that the Honor 8 is an amazing device, I got mine for 325€ during a sale and I haven't regretted it...
The camera is amazing! It is so much better than my old Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini, and it can shoot really sharp images (In good lightning)
However if there isn't that much light, images will become a little grainy (As on most smartphones)
Then we have the software... I almost got the Honor 7 in 2015 but I ended up not buying it because of the software (EMUI). But since I got such a great deal on the Honor 8 I decided to actually try it out and I must say EMUI 4.1 which I got the phone with was a lot different from my previous Android experience (Cyanogenmod 13) but it so many good features built in.
And today I got the EMUI 5 update and I must say, it's a lot closer to AOSP and I like it
Also this phone is very fast!
If you can get this phone for under 400€ then it's a great deal! I don't know that much about the other phones mentioned but I really recommend the Honor 8! Hope this helps you decide, if you have any questions regarding the Honor 8 feel free to ask
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I've ordered one, should be here today. Couldn't decide between this and he Lenovo P2, but there's an issue with the mic and the camera isn't as good. Looking forward to testing it today
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If you returned the oneplus3T because it wasn't good enough, nothing will please you.
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Huh? I didn't say it wasn't good enough. Everything other than the camera and mic quality was perfect.
For example. I took a photo of my dog as he was barking for attention, with both my 6S and the 3T. The 6S could capture the photo, the 3T pic was blurred. The only way to remedy this was to use manual mode and increase the shutter speed, and even then, I couldn't use flash. Mic quality in wasn't outstanding in Whatsapp etc.

Decision help for buying Mate 9 (with 16:9 aspect ration) OR waiting for Mate 10?

Should I buy the mate 9 nowadays (with the 16:9 aspect ratio) or wait for the bezeless mate 10 (with the 18:9 ratio)? I'm not sure which one will be more comfortable to hold and use with one hand (most of the time) i.e. I'm looking for the most compact of the two for easy handling and less overall weight.
& I'm not really sure how come the mate 10 will be taller than Mate 9 if:
The bezeless design of the Mate 10 should optimize the real estate of the current Mate 9 to a new level
& the surface area of the Mate 10 is going to be smaller than that of the Mate 9?
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better wait for mate 10.... mate 9 is too big and too heavy for most hands.... I constantly have pain in my wirst
Just wait for the mate 11, will be awesome
But seriously I think that this year phone manufacturers really stepping up their game compared to last year. I would probably wait what Google and Samsung and Huawei have coming up
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The mate 18 will be amazing
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seriously I'm between Mate 9 & Mate 10 only. I may not live up till Mate 18 is released!!. I'm deciding between the current model or waiting for the newer one if it is really going to be more hand friendly - because of the bezeless desgin - but that 18:9 aspect ratio of the newer coming model kinda worries me because it 'll make the phone taller than the current model.
If I were you, I would buy mate 9.
You can buy Mate 9 and use it till 2017 end, then sell or stay.
Mate 9 was released in 2016 November. I suppose, Mate 10 will be released in the end of 2017.
buy a galaxy s8+
Wait for M10 if you can, i have the Mate 9 and would buy it again, but knowing that M10 soon will come out, i wonder what kind of improvements it will bring.
I'm so happy with my Mate 9 that I'll change only when it breaks. :victory:
I'm with a V20 and looking for to drop it to a Mate 9.
Do you know when Mate 10 come out? November?
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I'm with a V20 and looking for to drop it to a Mate 9.
Do you know when Mate 10 come out? November?
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Most sources cite October for announcement & shipment 'll be in Novemenber.
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better wait for mate 10.... mate 9 is too big and too heavy for most hands.... I constantly have pain in my wirst
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I agree always better to wait for mate 10 if you can afford the time. But size is not the reason. This phone is perfect size I couldn't imagine smaller. If you don't want a big phone there are plenty of other options.
Maybe I can't afford the time. LOL
There's a long time until November/December.
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I just couldn't wait either and I bought a Mate 9 Pro in the meantime until November/December when the Mate 10 and the Pixel phones are out.
I'm so happy with the device, same specifications, but with Super AMOLED QHD display and better speakers, one of the reasons I dropped the Mate 9 a few months ago.
I also had the P10 Plus, but it was just garbage and I don't recommend to buy it at all.
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I just couldn't wait either and I bought a Mate 9 Pro in the meantime until November/December when the Mate 10 and the Pixel phones are out.
I'm so happy with the device, same specifications, but with Super AMOLED QHD display and better speakers, one of the reasons I dropped the Mate 9 a few months ago.
I also had the P10 Plus, but it was just garbage and I don't recommend to buy it at all.
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Better speakers? I thought that they were the same.
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Better speakers? I thought that they were the same.
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Actually I wasn't expecting a big change from regular Mate 9, but even when they have the same position, is day and night difference between them. The quality and volume is far way better and is the only phone so far that give me this real stereo sound, and I'm really used to it because my last 2 phones were with front facing speakers (Axon 7 and Idol 4S), so I can notice the difference pretty quick.
I got the regular Mate 9 last January, but after a couple of weeks I dropped it because screen was "only" FHD, the speakers were not that good and the one in the earpiece was with almost no sound at all. I came back to Axon 7 and a month ago I got a P10 Plus wishing that they fixed this, but was even worse, with no sound until I reached about 70% volume, and the phone itself is just pure trash, with a lot of heating and battery draining problems. My bet is that Huawei messed up EMUI 5.1 in the P10 Plus, but still was a device that had everything I needed if it could work properly.
After some days of searching for a new phone, I found that there was a Mate 9 Pro version, that is almost identical to P10 Plus, and I decided to give a shot and MAAAAAAN!!!, wonderful screen, really fast device, even faster than regular Mate 9, really good speakers and excellent audio through jack. I never put the speakers at more than 40% and they sound pretty good, and for audio jack, the same because even at half, is already painful for my ears; besides I have really good isolation with the earbuds I'm using. I carry a Sony XBA-H1, that by no means are the best, but neither are cheap and the response and dynamic range is awesome.
There are so many differences between the Mate 9 and the Pro version, and I wonder why no one talks about them, is much more than 6GB RAM, QHD screen and 5.5" display size. For example, the capacitive buttons are really nice and they hide along the metal body. Same with the LED, that in this case is multicolor, and when some notification comes, it remembers me my multi color Razer mouse, because it starts to light with a lot of colors. This AMOLED screen is so fast and responsive, and this Pro version comes with different options in EMUI as well. The curvy edge is a nice touch, because is not uncomfortable to use, like those Galaxy Edge versions, and it adds a touch of elegance to the phone.
Not everything is good, and so far the only downside is battery life, which is not as good as in the Mate 9, even when they have the same battery. With regular Mate 9 I could easily do 7-8 hrs SOT, while in this device I'm usually around 6hrs, but is more than enough for me and I'm positive it will improve when we get Android O and EMUI 6.0 which is already on the works.
In conclusion, I would recommend to buy the Pro version if you can afford it, because the experience it offers is totally different and really premium, and even when is kind of unknown model, many reviews still call it the best Android phone you can get, but of course, with a high price tag.
I am also on the fence about that gimmicky 2:1 aspect ratio. It is really impractical and most media out there is 16:9 which uses the whole screen instead of having black bars on the sides, which is quite annoying and unnecessary. I sure wish they would have stuck with 16:9 instead.
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It is simply not time to switch to 18:9 aspect ratio yet.
Next year all apps and most media will be ready for the new format.
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I am also on the fence about that gimmicky 2:1 aspect ratio. It is really impractical and most media out there is 16:9 which uses the whole screen instead of having black bars on the sides, which is quite annoying and unnecessary. I sure wish they would have stuck with 16:9 instead.
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Giocarro said:
It is simply not time to switch to 18:9 aspect ratio yet.
Next year all apps and most media will be ready for the new format.
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It seems the new Honor Note 9 is a taste of what it can come for Mate 10. Is only my personal opinion, but I like it.

So Huawei Mate 9 vs Samsung Note 8 ?

So has anyone ordered a Note 8 yet? I have Mate 9 (since Jan '17) and its awesome, but and it is a big BUT, that AMOLED display!! No doubt, that Samsung has some of the best displays in the business.
Everything in Mate 9 works as expected, the finger print reader is super fast, the battery life is amazing generally speaking. It charges fast, the UI is responsive. The camera is half decent. It just works.
I wanted to started a conversation around the idea, if it is worthwhile moving from Mate 9 to Note 8 ? Or perhaps wait for Mate 10?? Yeah lets throw that in too!
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So has anyone ordered a Note 8 yet? I have Mate 9 (since Jan '17) and its awesome, but and it is a big BUT, that AMOLED display!! No doubt, that Samsung has some of the best displays in the business.
Everything in Mate 9 works as expected, the finger print reader is super fast, the battery life is amazing generally speaking. It charges fast, the UI is responsive. The camera is half decent. It just works.
I wanted to started a conversation around the idea, if it is worthwhile moving from Mate 9 to Note 8 ? Or perhaps wait for Mate 10?? Yeah lets throw that in too!
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I wait for V30. Huawei Mate 10 with IP68 is my favorite too but I need Knock on and Mate 9 not have this function. Amoled not important for me. Photo quality, IPxy and knock on are more important for me.
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I'm waiting for Mate 10 and Mate 10 Pro, those are the only two phones that are worth waiting, the S8 and Note 8 have nothing to offer.
I just switched from a Note 4 to the Mate 9 and love it. Yes there are some drawbacks but its nothing a little big of tweaking cant fix for me anyway. I looked at the price of the Note 8 and was like NOPE...Was on my 2nd Note 4 with the eMMC issue and didn't want to spend $1200 plus tax for the Note 8. Picked up the Mat e9 for $749 taxes in (Half price!)
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I'm waiting for Mate 10 and Mate 10 Pro, those are the only two phones that are worth waiting, the S8 and Note 8 have nothing to offer.
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I crave the AMOLED screens on the Samsungs. That would actually make my Mate 9 complete...
Came from the Note 4 to the Mate 9. Still have my Note running S8 ROM port. I have considered the Note 8 but, the battery life for one would be less than the Mate 9 which is absolutely stellar. The price is another issue. The wrap around screen is not for me on the Note 8. I like a firm solid phone, too. The note feels good but very delicate if dropped. I'm staying with my Mate 9. I went through a period of thinking maybe getting rid but nope, it's my right hand man. Probably the best phone I have ever owned. 128gb, 6gb Mate 9.
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I crave the AMOLED screens on the Samsungs. That would actually make my Mate 9 complete...
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I though i was the same, but the Mate 9 screen is great as an IPS LCD, however if u still want AMOLED, Mate 10 pro is the version you want, shame it will be 1100$ if rumors are right.
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Came from the Note 4 to the Mate 9. Still have my Note running S8 ROM port. I have considered the Note 8 but, the battery life for one would be less than the Mate 9 which is absolutely stellar. The price is another issue. The wrap around screen is not for me on the Note 8. I like a firm solid phone, too. The note feels good but very delicate if dropped. I'm staying with my Mate 9. I went through a period of thinking maybe getting rid but nope, it's my right hand man. Probably the best phone I have ever owned. 128gb, 6gb Mate 9.
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There is no phone that serves as a true upgrade over Mate 9, in fact the Mate 9 is better than all flagship in terms of battery life and performance.
Someone tested the Note 8 on ppsspp emulator, playing Tekken DR and it worked poor as on my S7E, on mine Mate 9, it runs 60fps solid and Tekken 6 as well, that shows that Samsung is throttling the device on purpose via DVFS, another reason to stay away for me.
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I though i was the same, but the Mate 9 screen is great as an IPS LCD, however if u still want AMOLED, Mate 10 pro is the version you want, shame it will be 1100$ if rumors are right.
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Not looking to go into $1000 category currently, however, I do wish for a AMOLED display.
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There is no phone that serves as a true upgrade over Mate 9, in fact the Mate 9 is better than all flagship in terms of battery life and performance.
Someone tested the Note 8 on ppsspp emulator, playing Tekken DR and it worked poor as on my S7E, on mine Mate 9, it runs 60fps solid and Tekken 6 as well, that shows that Samsung is throttling the device on purpose via DVFS, another reason to stay away for me.
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Totally agree the battery aspect, since no flagship of 2017 came anywhere near 4000mAH battery.
The accu is me to small, this is the main reason for me to buy huawei and no edge displays.
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I'll wait for the Note 9.
The Mate 9 is too excellent to give up just yet.
Even the Matte 10 can wait for the 11
I went from Note Edge (the first one) to Huawei Mate 9. It took a little while to adjust plus I still miss the pen but I find that as time goes on I have really grown to like the Mate 9. Battery and speed and memory are top notch. There have been several good updates with camera improvements. I'm sure the Note 8 is a great phone but I really hate the idea of a 18.5 to 9 screen. It appears that the Mate 10 will now go to a 18:9 screen. I'd rather Huawei keep the same aspect ratio of Mate 9 and maybe slightly increase diagonal. Regardless, I'd rather wait to bump up to a Mate 10 than purchase a Note 8, especially if Huawei continues to improve camera.
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Not looking to go into $1000 category currently, however, I do wish for a AMOLED display.
Totally agree the battery aspect, since no flagship of 2017 came anywhere near 4000mAH battery.
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I'll get the Mate 10 Pro probably, or Mate 10 if price will be really 1100$, nonetheless i know many people that stormed on the S8, and quickly got back to the Mate 9 never to look back.
Just today i played Angry Birds 2 and Tekken 6, so smooth, no performance issues, while both lagged, with Tekken 6 being unplayable on the Note8 and S8+.
If you have another last years flagship I'd say get the note 8 because it has the latest hardware. If you have the mate 9 now I wouldn't switch, this phone is just so great, amazing camera which really invites you to play with the settings in pro mode.
It has great battery life, I play alot of elder scrolls legends on this phone and it's allows me to play for hours and hours. My screen on times swing between 9 and 10 hours. Pretty impressive I would say.
I came from a nexus 6 so the Amoled vs lcd debate I can understand. I do prefer lcd tho.
OK, it doesn't have the true blacks and color saturation that Amoled has but it has great color reproduction and best if all, no navbar/statusbar burnins, hooray! This thing also gets very bright in daylight so it's very usable in direct sunlight.
I would say, swap this device only for the to be revealed mate 10.
Huawei is known for improving its phones year by year. The mate 9 was a good step up from the mate 8 as the mate 8 was from the mate 7. I'll be guessing it will be very speedy, have a great battery life and a great screen, Amoled or even lcd. The camera will be improved the most I think, this Leica coop has been working out great for Huawei and the camera's improve with every new phone. The p10 plus has a decent low light camera, guessing the mate 10 will be better in every aspect.
Time will tell, my next mate device will be a mate 11 tho, can't wait to be 1 year ahead of this one.
VALUE, that's what I'm after
Is it "better" I guess depends on what you want out of your device.
"Better" can be described as faster, more power, or simply a faux feeling
of "better".
Personally, I think most smartphones are OVER priced, for MY value.
That's why I don't buy a new phone when they are released. I "wait it out".
Typically, phones have a bug or two, be it software or hardware, when released.
I WAIT until a "new" version is announced and ready for release, then, start watching
for the price of last years new model. The Mate 9 was (USA) around 900 dollars when
released. I bought one this week, for $449.00
I find that if you buy the LAST of the so called new one, when another new one comes
out, I get a better value for my money. Granted, 99.9% of cell phone manufacturers
are late/never update their phone firmware. But, at least for the last 3 Huawei phones
I've owned (Mate 2,8,9) have been very stable with the firmware they ship with, so, for
my use, it doesn't matter. I don't play games, 3d anything, but, I do a TON of talking
(around 2,000 minutes per month), text, web (work), video, mp3's, streaming. I don't
turn it off at night, runs MONTHS between reboots, great life, so the version of firmware
doesn't bother me. But, I don't think the "higher end" phones, so to speak are a good
value, because when you look at build costs, of even the super high end devices of
around $300, but command over $1,000? That's nuts! Personally, I think it is because
the fashion designers/hipsters have taken over the industry. Now, what's the first thing
you hear when someone announces/displays a phone?
Oh! Look how slim, colorful & stylish it is! We hired bla bla bla fashion designer to design
the phone. (Um...how much "style" can you make out of a rectangular slab of plastic, glass &
metal??). Phones are overpowered, have way to many megapixels on the super tiny camera
sensor and on and on, to justify the price increase. As long as consumers continue to buy
into it, can't blame the manufacturers that are catering to it.
Me, I'm kind of like the old story of the two bulls on top of the hill, overlooking a heard of
cows below. The young bull asks the old bull, hey...how about we run down there and screw
some cows. The OLD bull says, son, why down we creep down there SLOWLY and screw em
all.
Sometimes slow is better, for me, especially when it comes to spending my hard earned money.
I had a mate 9 earlier in the year, got a note 8.
Note 8 has a great camera but i just do not like using it, it is absolutely not worth the price they are asking. Rather use my 7 plus or Xz Premium over it. XZp would be my DD if the camera didnt suck.
My p10 plus can barely hit 3 hours SOT so it sits on the desk, huge disappointment. Should have kept the mate 9.

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