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Sony SmartWatch Impressions?

Has anyone bought the "updated" smart watch? If so, what are your thoughts on it? I might buy one from Expansys USA.
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Early reviews online and on amazon are pretty positive. I purchased and returned the liveview due to connection issues. These seem to be a non-issue on the updated smartwatch. I ordered through expansys and will hopefully be receiving the unit this week. I can reply with my personal opinions.
I hope the xda devs pick this device up and come up with some great apps. One obvious one would be a timer/stopwatch app.

I just got it today, so my impressions are sort of limited to my limited use of it today...
I'd say overall impressions are "So far so good". Definitely feel this is a worthwhile device that will only improve with time.
Pros:
1. Much smaller than the MotoACTV and actually feels/looks like a normal wrist watch on your hand.
2. A much needed accelerometer screen activation was added I believe in the latest update (it doesn't mention this feature in the manual nor in any review I have seen). Basically all you do when the screen is off is tap the device anywhere twice really quick. I've noticed sometimes if you tap it too slow or not hard enough and then do it the right way immediately afterwards, that it won't register the correct way and you have to wait like 5 seconds to try again. Not that big of a deal.
3. Screen looks pretty good. A little pixelated due to the low resolution but text is still readable.
4. So far no problems losing sync with the phone.
Cons:
1. Smartwatch app notification icon ALWAYS stays on in the notification bar of your phone when the watch is connected. Needs to be an option to disable this.
2. The touch screen malfunctions with at least one default Sony app that I've seen so far: the Phonebook (Contacts) app. I think this must be something with how Sony designed the app, as other apps I've downloaded function perfectly normal with all the gestures (multitouch, swiping, taps). IT'S HORRIBLE. Can't swipe between screens at all with this. Actually accidentally texted someone on the first screen of contacts the default "Call me" message as I was swiping to the second screen of contacts. The text went through though, so I guess that's a plus because the person called me immediately lol.
3. The charging cable and the way it just fits in the clip to stay connected is probably the worst charging design I have ever seen... should have just used micro-usb... If you aren't careful when setting the watch down while it's plugged in, you could accidentally put an angle on the cable which will ensure that it doesn't make contact with the charging leads.
4. No default email app yet. Only one that exists is for Sony phones
5. Music player could be improved a bit. No control over albums/folders (at least with the Google Play Music app). Very generic play/pause, volume, and next/previous track options. Doesn't show album art with Play Music on ICS (really? This is the default app that probably the majority of Android users use!!).
6. Sometimes if the phone is busy doing other things, you will notice on the watch that the icons take a while to show up (generic icons are shown instead of the specific application ones), which basically is exposing the fact that the apps aren't stored on the Smartwatch itself... which means that if your phones processor is bogged down, so will app responsiveness on the watch itself.
7. No voice search app or widget! Whether we have the phone sitting in our car in speaker phone mode, or have a blue tooth headset on, we need a dedicated voice search activation button widget! I am planning on sitting down one day to make one. This will be especially handy once we have the Google Assistant app (Siri competitor), not to mention how useful this would be to initiate calls to people while driving instead of using the HORRIBLE touch screen contacts app.
8. No microphone in the hardware! This sort of goes with #7 above.

Just got this thing in the mail here at work, well FedEx. Haven't really messed around with it yet. Loaded a few apps, so far so good! Will report back later on anything else I find.

yeh i just got mine today
still fiddling around with it
i look forward to updates
i also noticed the messaging app doesnt sync up constantly
like in the events app,i can get a new message notice and read it,but go back to the messaging app,and it shows older texts....
and theres some other minor quirks,like when the phone rings you can mute it, hang up, but not answer it
would be cool if there was a microphone and i could carry on conversations like im james bond

Dude wait for the pebble: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/597507018/pebble-e-paper-watch-for-iphone-and-android

I just hooked mine up today and had all kinds of problems keeping it connected. I am running a Galaxy Tab with the newly released CM-9 nightly. The apps I have tried work: in call control, missed call, audio control, message, and weather. The problem I have with the set up is that it keeps disconnecting as soon as you try and do anything. Originally it wouldn't re-connect reliably, I then found the Liveviewcharm application which allows it to reconnect all the time. So far, I would give it a C+ in my particular configuration but I am hoping.
YMMV, it seems people with other configurations are having less problems. It would be a good idea if people siad what kind of phone and what software they were running.
By the way, the reason the software leaves an icon in the status bar is so that the background app won't get shut down by the OS when it needs memory.
Fred

guih said:
Dude wait for the pebble: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/597507018/pebble-e-paper-watch-for-iphone-and-android
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ive seen the pebbles,plus if you donate u can get one now right?
but what makes it so better than the Sony?
like the pebbles watch is only black/white or monochrome?
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ffarber said:
I just hooked mine up today and had all kinds of problems keeping it connected. I am running a Galaxy Tab with the newly released CM-9 nightly. The apps I have tried work: in call control, missed call, audio control, message, and weather. The problem I have with the set up is that it keeps disconnecting as soon as you try and do anything. Originally it wouldn't re-connect reliably, I then found the Liveviewcharm application which allows it to reconnect all the time. So far, I would give it a C+ in my particular configuration but I am hoping.
YMMV, it seems people with other configurations are having less problems. It would be a good idea if people siad what kind of phone and what software they were running.
By the way, the reason the software leaves an icon in the status bar is so that the background app won't get shut down by the OS when it needs memory.
Fred
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what exactly is liveviewcharm? i find it on the net to download,but absolutely no description of what it is or what it does
Im using Samsung galaxy note with the watch. Stays connected fine unless im a ways away from the phone of course

Been very eager to get the original liveview, but heard about the various connection problems. Now this one seems to have that fixed Normally, I would have got this right away, but the pebble is quite interesting too. So since some of you have the smartwatch could you answer some of my questions please?
* Most importantly, how does this affect battery life? I pretty much destroy my battery in a matter of hours, I don't want this to turn my phone into a laptop where I'd need to charge it every 2-3 hours
* When the bluetooth connection drops, what happens? I know the smartwatch doesn't need the phone for clock functionality (unlike the liveview). So does it just show the time?
* I'm not good with coding and stuff, the smartwatch would be the better option for support right?
Thanks

FC1032 said:
Been very eager to get the original liveview, but heard about the various connection problems. Now this one seems to have that fixed Normally, I would have got this right away, but the pebble is quite interesting too. So since some of you have the smartwatch could you answer some of my questions please?
* Most importantly, how does this affect battery life? I pretty much destroy my battery in a matter of hours, I don't want this to turn my phone into a laptop where I'd need to charge it every 2-3 hours
* When the bluetooth connection drops, what happens? I know the smartwatch doesn't need the phone for clock functionality (unlike the liveview). So does it just show the time?
* I'm not good with coding and stuff, the smartwatch would be the better option for support right?
Thanks
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I can't really comment on battery life as I am using a tab which has a battery that lasts 24 hours no matter how I use it. Having said that as I far as I can tell there is no difference. I suspect on a phone with a smaller battery your results won't be as good.
The watch tries to reconnect automatically when the connection drops. The Liveviewcharm (clicky) app makes the reconnections much more reliable. The description is in Japanese, you will have to cut and paste the text into Google translate if you can't read it (I couldn't). Basically it is an app that stays running and monitors Liveview connections (which the SmartWatch uses). I can't be any more detailed than that.
I doubt that Sony support will be terrific but there is nothing to code. It mostly just works the way the instructions say. You do have to download each app you want to run on the watch but that is straightforward.
Fred
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SayWhat10 said:
ive seen the pebbles,plus if you donate u can get one now right?
but what makes it so better than the Sony?
like the pebbles watch is only black/white or monochrome?
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what exactly is liveviewcharm? i find it on the net to download,but absolutely no description of what it is or what it does
Im using Samsung galaxy note with the watch. Stays connected fine unless im a ways away from the phone of course
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See my post above for a brief description of liveviewcharm, it does help. Good to hear the watch works well with a Note. Maybe subsequent releases of the CM-9 ROM will clean up whatever is wrong with the communications with watch.
One other thing, it is very hard to read in sunlight, one reason the Pebble could be better (when and if it is released).
In any event, I like the idea so much I signed up for a Pebble and may even buy a WIMM to give that a try. The problem for me is that I use the Tab as my only device and sometimes it is very cumbersome just to get out and see who is calling, etc.
Fred

Phone: Galaxy Note
Comment: This is my first smart watch.
And I love it. And guys this is Sony brand. It's important for lot of people. (Maybe is chip, but at least is Sony!)

Pretty cool watch.

avetny said:
Phone: Galaxy Note
Comment: This is my first smart watch.
And I love it. And guys this is Sony brand. It's important for lot of people. (Maybe is chip, but at least is Sony!)
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Apparently you didn't experience Sony Ericcson's epic abandonment of their MBW-150 watches. Everyone's display has faded to black and Sony refuses to repair or replace them.

JimSmith94 said:
Apparently you didn't experience Sony Ericcson's epic abandonment of their MBW-150 watches. Everyone's display has faded to black and Sony refuses to repair or replace them.
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DAAAMN !!!
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Guys I need help !
When I shaking my watch the screen going to ON. It's supposed to be like that ?

avetny said:
DAAAMN !!!
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Guys I need help !
When I shaking my watch the screen going to ON. It's supposed to be like that ?
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You mean that the watch wakes when you shake it?
That's actually a feature I was hoping to see. I used to have a watch that would turn the light on when I flicked my wrist This would be a nice feature, since you won't need to have another hand to activate it.
So @owners of this watch, is that a feature of the watch?

FC1032 said:
You mean that the watch wakes when you shake it?
That's actually a feature I was hoping to see. I used to have a watch that would turn the light on when I flicked my wrist This would be a nice feature, since you won't need to have another hand to activate it.
So @owners of this watch, is that a feature of the watch?
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Yes! I think you right! Its a cool future

Smart watches are gonna get out SONY from bankrupticy. Lool
They really suck past few years trying to build something special. but only they did good is Play Station

I don't like the look of the Sony smart watch, Pebble actually looks cool to wear and in the video on the website is an actual demo unit so it will happen and rock. Plus, they have nearly 6 million backers already, do you know what that is? Lol the development on that thing will be so strong and so good.

guih said:
I don't like the look of the Sony smart watch, Pebble actually looks cool to wear and in the video on the website is an actual demo unit so it will happen and rock. Plus, they have nearly 6 million backers already, do you know what that is? Lol the development on that thing will be so strong and so good.
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Pebble got black and white screen. This is stupid.

avetny said:
Pebble got black and white screen. This is stupid.
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Trade-off with battery life...
Fred

Urgent. Touchscreeen off

I am on vacation in the usa and bought a note 10.1 at best buy in san diego. Now i am in los angeles.
Today i played a little with it and found that the touchscreen does not respond as expected depending on where I touch the screen. (Fingers not pen!)
In the middle it is spot on, but above and below the registered touch position is way below where i actually touched the sceen. Especially when more than one link is at these positions i always miss the one i want to click... also when typing a text sometimes i hit 'c' but space is registered. Additionally i tested with multitouch visualizer from the market and clearly see what i described.
I also own a galaxy tab10.1 and never had this problem., so i guess i am not dreaming this.
0. I guess there is no way to calibrate the screen?
1. Can you use multitouch visualizer and test if your device shows also this behaviohr, please? Want to now if it is normal or if my device is broken...
2. In two days i fly back to germany. Should i return it? Never returned something at best buy. Is it problematic? Do i have to explain much or jisit easy going? Should i say that it is broken or just return it?
Thank you very much!
Klaus
Ps: you can also use the developer menu and turn on visualization of touch stuff. Here i see also that in upper and lower part of the screen the registered position is off .

Don't take a chance. Return it 1st thing in the morning. All you need is your receipt and explain the problem. Get a manager if you need to.
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You should be able to exchange it or return it. At least go there and take it with you.

toenail_flicker said:
Don't take a chance. Return it 1st thing in the morning. All you need is your receipt and explain the problem. Get a manager if you need to.
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You should be able to exchange it or return it. At least go there and take it with you.
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I think i will return it for a refund if possible. Because i fly back on saturday i do not have enough time to test it (i also want to do a little sight seeing here ).

Forget the BS that I wrote. The problem was because i was charging at the same time. After unplugging the note and using multitouch visualizer again the problem was gone. Stupid me. Sorry for polluting the forum with my crap

I have noticed an intermittent indication of the same thing especially when playing Monopoly. Sometimes I also see an intermittent delay when touching the screen today in SNotes I saw at least a second delay from when I started a line and the line showed, but it is very intermittent.

oclock said:
Forget the BS that I wrote. The problem was because i was charging at the same time. After unplugging the note and using multitouch visualizer again the problem was gone. Stupid me. Sorry for polluting the forum with my crap
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Have to admit, I was surprised at your post, but given the time constraints returning it seemed logical. So glad it turned out ok.

Touchscreen sensitivity issue

Hi there guys,
I've been researching on this problem i've got with my Oneplus. It seems that the touchscreen is'nt responsive enough.
Often when i'm scrolling trough (for example) facebook, the phone has a hard time recognizing my swipes, and picks up regular touches instead. Which is causing me to open or like posts when i'm just trying to scroll trough. If i'm scrolling trough my homescreens while just slightly touching the screen, it acts up really hard.
The screen just isn't responsive enough imo.
I'm wondering if other people got the same issue, and if it is hardware or software related.
See this topic for more information: Click here

Sounds like
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2832822

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Sounds like
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2832822
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It is different than ghost-touches.
I noticed there is a topic on xda about this problem already: Click
I hope this can be fixed with a software update.

joeyzbg said:
Hi there guys,
I've been researching on this problem i've got with my Oneplus. It seems that the touchscreen is'nt responsive enough.
Often when i'm scrolling trough (for example) facebook, the phone has a hard time recognizing my swipes, and picks up regular touches instead. Which is causing me to open or like posts when i'm just trying to scroll trough. If i'm scrolling trough my homescreens while just slightly touching the screen, it acts up really hard.
The screen just isn't responsive enough imo.
I'm wondering if other people got the same issue, and if it is hardware or software related.
See this topic for more information: Click here
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Funny. I have my oneplus one since a week ago more or less and i also noticed this issue in the very first days of use. Now i've opened facebook app to make some scrolling and see if the problem is still there and i have to say that i don't notice it anymore. Strange, but this is what i feel O_O

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Funny. I have my oneplus one since a week ago more or less and i also noticed this issue in the very first days of use. Now i've opened facebook app to make some scrolling and see if the problem is still there and i have to say that i don't notice it anymore. Strange, but this is what i feel O_O
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Hmm, maybe you just got used to press a bit harder onto the screen (which helps). Would be great if it's really disapearing after a while
Got mine for 3 days now.

joeyzbg said:
Hmm, maybe you just got used to press a bit harder onto the screen (which helps). Would be great if it's really disapearing after a while
Got mine for 3 days now.
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It really may be...just get used to New display settings and you will be out of problem too then!
Inviato dal mio One utilizzando Tapatalk

I have the exact same issue with my OnePlus after 3 weeks of use. At first it was the swype issue where the phone wasn't picking up swypes properly on the middle left side of my screen. I use a pattern unlock so it's annoying when the dots don't connect.
The next thing was not picking up my touches properly so when ever I use SwiftKey and they recommend words, I could never properly select it because the touchscreen wasn't registering properly.
I did a factory reset and it solved the problem at first but it's now back after 2 days. It's not as bad as before but still persistent. There are tons of people on Redit, Cyanogen and the OnePlus forums that are reporting the same problem.
The good news is it seems like a software and not hardware issue, hopefully the permanent fix can come soon.

Possible solution to the supposed OnePlus One touch sensitivity problem
Settings→Developer Options→ Scroll About Half Way and UNcheck "block gesture touch events"
Also try and see if unchecking "Adaptive backlight" in Settings→Display & lights→ Adaptive backlight, helps.
Of course none of these are permanent solutions. And this problem is real. But maybe the "solutions" above help.

ive not had these issues just yet. but i do get annoyed by gesture control

This still needs to be addressed. It's almost as bad as an old capacitive touch screen!

I got my phone maybe a month after it was released. After exactly 4 months the touchscreen input died and lost all sensitivity. Typing became impossible. After going back and fourth with support for 2 months they finally sent me another one. The new one was excellent for EXACTLY FOUR MONTHS!! Almost to the DAY! My damn touch is broken again and I can't type. I'm furious! I'm also 1wk outside warranty.
With the first phone I tried every hack, crack, rom, reformat, anything I could find. Nothing would restore the touch. I assume it's a hardware issue. I've been looking around for a solution but haven't found anything. If there is anything, I would appreciate some direction.
Sorry for everyone that ever wasted their money on OnePlus, I won't be getting any more products from them...

Inaccurate touchscreen?

My phone just seems... Off. Anyone else noticing an inaccurate touch screen, charging or not? Typing has gotten horrible, keyboard doesn't matter, reboot doesn't help. Really starting to drive me nuts.
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Do you have a screen protector on it? Or are you charging and using the phone at the same time?

No screen protector and charging or not doesn't matter.
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That used to happen now and then on my old note 4. But it was due to my phone processing something. Try rebooting or clearing cache

i tend to see some inaccurate typing when i type fast. i used to blame the devices, my Nexus 6, the Note 7 also did this, and now the v20. I am beginning to think it may be "FAT Fingers" and trying to type way to fast, for me anyway. with the trouble you had with text messaging, perhaps you got a lemon and need to get it replaced.

Is there a touch test in service menu?

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Is there a touch test in service menu?
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Here you go http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cvnhan.android.screentouchtest

I swapped my phone and it seems better so far
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Not the Screen tester needed...
The app you listed doesn't do anything for telling you what's going on with your screen. It only registers a touch, swipe or writing on the screen...
TouchScreen Repair (Play Store/ NOOB, I can't post links) "claims" to help with response time, but after rebooting I still have issues with the 2nd screen registering as a long press and going into settings mode with the Wi-Fi quick tapped...
Running VZW (VS995) Software version VS99513A ("13A") and had the same issue with my first V20 running ("11A" and "12A").
2nd V20 has displayed the same symptoms with all (3) software updates 11A,12A, & 13A...
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cordell12 said:
i tend to see some inaccurate typing when i type fast. i used to blame the devices, my Nexus 6, the Note 7 also did this, and now the v20. I am beginning to think it may be "FAT Fingers" and trying to type way to fast, for me anyway. with the trouble you had with text messaging, perhaps you got a lemon and need to get it replaced.
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Agree that this might be common, but do think that the V20 screen is over sensitive and have never had any of the Note 3, 7 or for that matter S3 have this issue. Yes you'll get a typo, but not go crazy spending longer than necessary fixing them... Also the only time the V20 is 100% accurate is when you swipe REALLY slow... The whole idea of swiping is to text fast and not be handicapped...

Fingerprint swipe on sensor flaky

Just got my Pixel 3 the other day and have started to put it to regular use, I'm coming from a Pixel OG that only missed swipes if my finger was damp or such. At first I thought it was due to my case but even without it on the swipe gesture on the fingerprint sensor is more miss than hit. I'm not talking about unlocking which happens every time, but trying to pull down notifications or quick settings with a swipe on the fingerprint sensor (yes it's enabled).
Anyone else with this issue or do I possibly have a finicky sensor?
Thanks

I've had some issues with mine but not a ton, yet. It works fine for unlocking as you said but sometimes swiping down doesn't do anything and I have to swipe a few times or just pull the shade with the screen. I believe I saw a post here or on reddit about it a few weeks ago. Not sure if it's something that can be addressed via software fixes or not.

That's not encouraging to hear, that's a feature I use all the time. And on my pixel OG it worked flawlessly so this is definitely not usual performance.
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I've had some issues with mine but not a ton, yet. It works fine for unlocking as you said but sometimes swiping down doesn't do anything and I have to swipe a few times or just pull the shade with the screen. I believe I saw a post here or on reddit about it a few weeks ago. Not sure if it's something that can be addressed via software fixes or not.
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hwshi said:
That's not encouraging to hear, that's a feature I use all the time. And on my pixel OG it worked flawlessly so this is definitely not usual performance.
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It's not "usual" and likely not working as intended but it's not a problem specific to your device. Assuming it's something they can adjust with software it should be fixed in an update vs an RMA for your specific phone. That's kind of what I was getting at with my reply.

Yes I understood it as it being a problem on more than mine but made me think it could be a hardware issue. Hopefully that's something that can be addressed with software.
fury683 said:
It's not "usual" and likely not working as intended but it's not a problem specific to your device. Assuming it's something they can adjust with software it should be fixed in an update vs an RMA for your specific phone. That's kind of what I was getting at with my reply.
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only time i had the issue was with a case on. other than that.. its been perfect

I've noticed similar behavior on mine. If I slow my finger down a bit it's typically 100%. But if my finger moves too fast, it doesn't always work.

works 1 out of 3 times for me. I'm using a skin, no case. Anyways, i would only use the feature in "one-hand-mode", and it's a big stretch for my finger the way that i carry the phone...