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[FIX] [UPDATED] Headphones cutting out

Here is another simple fix for another HTC's "design flaw". If you have your music playback cutting out, or songs skipping back and forth and pausing randomly (all while on headphones), this fix is for you. If you don't, you probably will at some point...
It seems there is a reason why Nokia puts an ugly piece of plastic around the headphone jack. Can you find that on your phone? No? Well, there's your problem!
In Sensation's case, headphones constantly "touch" the back cover, which eventually scratches out the paint, revealing a tiny bit of bare metal. Similar thing happens on (unconfirmed): HTC HD2, HTC Desire HD (reported but unlikely), HTC EVO 3D, Samsung Captivate, Motorola Droid X and possibly a few more phones. Some of these have a silver ring around the jack, but this obviously doesn't help.
So, here it is on the Sensation:
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Problems occur once headphones come in contact with bare metal. I tried covering the scratch with paint, nail polish and super glue. None of this works, it just removes more paint. Coating it with more permanent paint would probably work for a while, but that would peel off eventually.
From what I can see, there are two ways to fix this.
One is quite simple:
While two involves modifying the headphones themselves.
It took me a while, but I found a perfect solution:
These are... dental.. rubbers... I actually have no idea what they are really called They are used for braces. I believe you can find them in any dental store. Just bring this picture with you They are under 1$, and come in various colours.
This is what you need to do with them:
Basically invisible
Here is another way to do the same thing, done by Mr. Ulmo.
In case this happens on your phone (non-Sensation) and you are able to fix it, please notify me so I can add it here
Also, in case you don't want to do any "hardware alterations", this app blocks headphone buttons, which kind of fixes the problem.
Hope I helped!

I think it's the issue with HTC headphones. When I plugged them into my X1, it started to randomly dial people and $hit. If you are using another headphones, then I can't help you.
Edit: just read that you used different headphones. Nvm then
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e

idavid_ said:
I think it's the issue with HTC headphones. When I plugged them into my X1, it started to randomly dial people and $hit. If you are using another headphones, then I can't help you.
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Unfortunately, the headphones are not to blame. Similar thing happens with my desktop headphones, or ordinary speakers.
Songs don't skip with non-HTC headphones (since they don't have controls built in), but music still cuts out.
Also, I tried different music apps.

zmfl said:
Unfortunately, the headphones are not to blame. Similar thing happens with my desktop headphones, or ordinary speakers.
Songs don't skip with non-HTC headphones (since they don't have controls built in), but music still cuts out.
Also, I tried different music apps.
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Maybe you have $hit stuck in your headphone jack? Just noticed I do :/
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idavid_ said:
Maybe you have $hit stuck in your headphone jack? Just noticed I do :/
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Perhaps...
I'll do a little cleaning and report back
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Well it can't be that simple can it... There was some dust in there, but nothing spectacular. It's still the same :\

I solved it... It took less than expected
I opened the phone up, thinking I'll have to mess with the jack, but the jack is fine.
It's due to the worst back cover in the universe (again). EVO 3D for example has a nice finish around the jack, so headphones don't touch the cover. Sensation on the other hand has nothing. Once paint peels off that nothing, headphones start touching bare metal, and go crazy.
Fu**ing flagship device...
I think I'll fix it with black nail polish, or silicone, or something...

Its strange as I had this! It got so bad I blamed the headphones and kept moving the wire. Result - after a while I knackered them up!
I bought a new pair and only last week, they started to too. It sort of cuts out for a second.
Ive looked at my phone, and it looks as discussed above, worn away paint...

Same Issue
I've had the same issue since I got my Sensation back in June, and it appears to be getting worse and worse. Leads me to believe it does have something to do with the paint around the headphone jack being rubbed off. It's also not just HTC headphones, as I have a very basic pair that I've used in addition to the ones provided by HTC, and it happens with those as well. A little search of the Google turns up a bunch of other people that have had this same problem. I contacted HTC support a few weeks ago about the issue and the response was basically, "Tough Luck". The tech mentioned that the headphones are coming into contact with other parts of the phone when in the headphone jack, and are somehow sending control signals to the phone. There is no fix.
It's a pain in the ass, particularly when you're listening to music and the phone auto-dials your boss or a client. I may try to root the phone and see if there's a way to turn off headphone controls in the software.

carpbud said:
Its strange as I had this! It got so bad I blamed the headphones and kept moving the wire. Result - after a while I knackered them up!
I bought a new pair and only last week, they started to too. It sort of cuts out for a second.
Ive looked at my phone, and it looks as discussed above, worn away paint...
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Mattmanx said:
There is no fix.
It's a pain in the ass, particularly when you're listening to music and the phone auto-dials your boss or a client. I may try to root the phone and see if there's a way to turn off headphone controls in the software.
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There is a fix, and I believe it's quite easy. I'll post a picture or two tonight

I have the same problem. There's a little chip in the paint right at the edge of my headphone jack and whenever the pins are wiggled slightly sound cuts out.

OP updated with a fix
If anyone can think of a better way to fix this, feel free to post.

thanks for making this post
so this is why my music player goes ****ing crazy and skipping songs by itself. it annoyed the **** out of me -.-

c19932 said:
thanks for making this post
so this is why my music player goes ****ing crazy and skipping songs by itself. it annoyed the **** out of me -.-
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I know how you felt... Glad I could help

zmfl said:
OP updated with a fix
If anyone can think of a better way to fix this, feel free to post.
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You atre brilliant! That is usually the sort of thing I would think of!
I know what I will be doing tonight...

zmfl said:
Here is another simple solution for a stupid "design flaw" that could have been easily avoided... Quietly brilliant my ass.
If you have your music playback cutting out, or songs skipping back and forth and pausing randomly (all while on headphones), this fix is for you. If you don't, you probably will at some point...
Notice the nice round finish around the headphone jack of this non-flagship device here? Can you find that on your Sensation? No? Well, there's your problem!
In Sensation's case, headphones constantly "touch" the back cover. Eventually this scratches out the black paint, revealing a tiny bit of bare metal. Like so:
Problems occur once headphones come in contact with the metal.
I tried covering the scratch with paint, nail polish and super glue. None of this works, it just removes more paint. Covering it with a more permanent paint would probably work for a while, but from what I can see, there is two ways to fix this.
One is quite simple:
While two would involve making a bigger hole in the phone. I'll try this once I get a backup back cover.
If anyone has a better looking solution, I'd like to hear it!
Also, in case you don't want to do any "hardware alterations", this app blocks headphone buttons, which kind of fixes the problem.
Hope I helped
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My gf has a Sensation. She hasn't come across this issue yet as she doesn't use headphones with the phone but I have an HTC HD2 and this was a issue with that phone as well. I don't use it anymore but for music and video but oddly it did not do this with all headphones. The OEM ones it would do this. I have a cheap $8 pair I bought from a computer store and never does this.
I have an older truck I use when i go hunting that still has a cassette deck in it and when i use the cassette adapter and plug into the phone it also skips and pauses. Sucks but im just living with it. I would guess overall its a HTC design issue

I have the same problem on Desire HD!

lol had same problem, thought it is like a damaged mp3 thx for the info..but sad for such a nice device

I got the same problem when I touch the upper left of my phone

Definitely a design problem.
Having similar problem with my HTC HD2. Definitely a phone design problem. If you'll let HTC know about it, please do so.

I have the same problem on my Droid X.

Galaxy S4's speaker: It's quite good!

Although there was another thread that touched on the S4's speaker volume, it was moved to Q&A as it was a question thread.
This thread is here as an informative thread so it belongs here, and will serve to show that the S4 is no push over when it comes to speaker loudness.
This review here (taken from GSMArena) shows us that the S4's speaker is certainly no slouch and is actually louder than the HTC One.
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The full review can be found here http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4_vs_htc_one-review-913p5.php

I think this could have been discussed in the review topic.
But anyways, this is to be expected. I remember in my physics class there was an equation that proved it doesn't matter about the number of speakers you have. 2 speakers doesn't double the loudness. It's the amount of power each one has. It would take 10 speakers of the same kind fo literally double the DCB.
Something like that. My profession is mechanics, not audio or electrical.
But if my memory serves me correct, the power into two speakers is the reason why the HTC One doesn't seem as loud. But what it does have is STEREO where the SGS4 is MONO.

Some nice info!

wow, that chart is really uesful.
I am going to buy LG Optimus G Pro version soon.
I hope it's better than Optimus G.

allopen said:
wow, that chart is really uesful.
I am going to buy LG Optimus G Pro version soon.
I hope it's better than Optimus G.
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make sure you buy thousands box of tissue with the phone you will probably need them when waiting for software update
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The loudness doesn't matter. Phones are already loud enough as it is. It's the quality of the sound, and from the looks of it the 7.9mm body will only support a small driver that distorts like crap at higher volumes and sound tinny and sucky in general. For generic polyphonic ringtones its fine, but anything more, especially when you put some mp3 clip of a pop song as your ringtone, and your ears will bleed from the distortion and general bad quality. Forget about using it as a boombox. From reviews I can gather that the BoomSound on the HTC One sounds a lot better than the S4, disregarding loudness output. They really didn't need to put stereo speakers on it, as even when close up to the phone in landscape the stereo separation probably is very minor in such a small thing.

Need a video of the s4 compared to note 2 or htc one for the speakers loudness.
Charts are one thing but I'd like a visual experiance!

no fanboy here but I cant believe the iPhone 5's speakers are below average. I think it sounds pretty good. Either the chart is inaccurate or the LG Optimus G is really that good.

autophone said:
no fanboy here but I cant believe the iPhone 5's speakers are below average. I think it sounds pretty good. Either the chart is inaccurate or the LG Optimus G is really that good.
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Its about loudness, not quality. Otherwise the one would be miles ahead of the others.

autophone said:
no fanboy here but I cant believe the iPhone 5's speakers are below average. I think it sounds pretty good. Either the chart is inaccurate or the LG Optimus G is really that good.
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When you cant see the fact presented and in denial mode without concrete cause, you are a fan boy.
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-]Megacharge[- said:
Although there was another thread that touched on the S4's speaker volume, it was moved to Q&A as it was a question thread.
This thread is here as an informative thread so it belongs here, and will serve to show that the S4 is no push over when it comes to speaker loudness.
This review here (taken from GSMArena) shows us that the S4's speaker is certainly no slouch and is actually louder than the HTC One.
The full review can be found here http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4_vs_htc_one-review-913p5.php
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Quite frankly, I'm taking GSMArena's findings with a heavy table spoon of salt. Every other reviewer claims that the One is significantly louder than what GSMA are claiming.

vapotrini said:
Quite frankly, I'm taking GSMArena's findings with a heavy table spoon of salt. Every other reviewer claims that the One is significantly louder than what GSMA are claiming.
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Did they measure the levels though? GSMA is saying HTC is better cause it has cleaner sound, that's the ultimate thing not dB count, it sounds (heh) like a fair assessment, Samsung phones are quite loud (speaker facing the air). HTC's improvement is in quality.

Well, for me the important measure is dB, not quality. I don't listen to music through tiny phone speakers (that is what headphones are for).
I just care that the speaker is loud enough for an ear piercing ringtone that can be heard over background noise.
Side note, a strong vibrate would be nice too. The one on the LG Optimus G is so weak I never feel it, even when it is in my pocket.
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lyeileen said:
I more like the display of HTC ONE than S4's.
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I agree, I also prefer SLCD3 over SAMOLED, but this isn't about screen tech, it's about Db's (max speaker loudness), lets keep it on topic.

jkforce said:
When you cant see the fact presented and in denial mode without concrete cause, you are a fan boy.
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No he isnt, he is right. I owned the iphone 5 and i can say that it has one of the best audio quality ever. Not only are the speakers nice loud and clear, but the audio through headphones is just an absolute pleasure to hear. Seriously great quality.

The speaker
The speaker is very good on the S4. Balanced and there is a lot of clarity in the sound though it might seam that it was a tradeoff with volume for that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kR8NzAzdHY

Adapt Sound

I haven't heard this feature ever discussed before, so when I found it on the phone after purchasing today, I was pretty floored.
As someone who has worn hearing aids since the kindergarten, setting up adapt sound was reminiscent of the many many hearing tests I had as a child.. click the button when you hear the beep! But what I found was an audio experience so dramatically improved it ALMOST brought a tear to my eye. I've never heard my headphones sound so good on a phone before, music was popping out at me at it was awesome!!!
Now, I can't imagine those of you with near normal to normal hearing will notice as dramatic an effect as I have, but I definitely am curious to hear (PUN!) if others experience any improvement with their audio after turning adapt sound on. I am definitely appreciative of samsung for adding something like this to the phone. I can hear higher frequency instruments and sounds that I couldn't before :good:

theraker007 said:
I haven't heard this feature ever discussed before, so when I found it on the phone after purchasing today, I was pretty floored.
As someone who has worn hearing aids since the kindergarten, setting up adapt sound was reminiscent of the many many hearing tests I had as a child.. click the button when you hear the beep! But what I found was an audio experience so dramatically improved it ALMOST brought a tear to my eye. I've never heard my headphones sound so good on a phone before, music was popping out at me at it was awesome!!!
Now, I can't imagine those of you with near normal to normal hearing will notice as dramatic an effect as I have, but I definitely am curious to hear (PUN!) if others experience any improvement with their audio after turning adapt sound on. I am definitely appreciative of samsung for adding something like this to the phone. I can hear higher frequency instruments and sounds that I couldn't before :good:
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Ive thought about doing it...but wanna do it with my studio monitor headphines and every time I think about it im not home where those bad boys are at...but since im currently home ill give it a try an a few min...Ill let you know the results
-alright, I have noticed a slight increase in sound quality..mainly sounds a little fuller although I click yes on almost all the beeps...there were only 2 or 3 times I couldnt hear the beeps...but there is definitly a noticeable difference
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mg2195 said:
Ive thought about doing it...but wanna do it with my studio monitor headphines and every time I think about it im not home where those bad boys are at...but since im currently home ill give it a try an a few min...Ill let you know the results
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cool, take a screenshot of the left and right ear graphs it gives you after you do the test.. i wanna see if mine looks different, i'll try to upload mine tomorrow, gotta get to sleep now

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Does this app fully control the sound across the device? Like, does it also enhance Google Play Music?

As you can see, the change is a little more dramatic for me.

Best App Ever
After running through the adaptive sound test, I can prove to my wife that I do not have selective hearing to ignore her, I just have bad hearing.

I'm also wondering if this works globally as well.. because I've chosen to give up on the stock music player, because there's no easy way to delete a song that comes up while listening.. and that's a pretty big deal to me =/
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THANK YOU for that. I have (audiologist tested) bad hearing in certain ranges, and this made a noticeable difference - at least in the Adapt Sound tests. We'll see how much it applies through other apps. But for phone calls alone, this is amazing!
Now I'm going to have to choose custom ROMs or this when the time comes until the feature hits AOSP (if it ever does...may be stuck in TW land).

Bjray said:
Does this app fully control the sound across the device? Like, does it also enhance Google Play Music?
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I don't think it does. I played a song on winamp and then played one on the samsung music app. I have the Sprint version of the S4 and I've been trying to figure out a way to make it global.

Music player stop working with Adapt sound
theraker007 said:
I haven't heard this feature ever discussed before, so when I found it on the phone after purchasing today, I was pretty floored.
As someone who has worn hearing aids since the kindergarten, setting up adapt sound was reminiscent of the many many hearing tests I had as a child.. click the button when you hear the beep! But what I found was an audio experience so dramatically improved it ALMOST brought a tear to my eye. I've never heard my headphones sound so good on a phone before, music was popping out at me at it was awesome!!!
Now, I can't imagine those of you with near normal to normal hearing will notice as dramatic an effect as I have, but I definitely am curious to hear (PUN!) if others experience any improvement with their audio after turning adapt sound on. I am definitely appreciative of samsung for adding something like this to the phone. I can hear higher frequency instruments and sounds that I couldn't before :good:
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Hi, I'm new to here and i got a problem with sound adapt feature, i'm using s4 GTi9500,*after i enable adapt for music, stock Music player stop working*. It say "Unfortunately, Music has stopped"
Any advice seniors......

If you guys are able to Root you guys SERIOUSLY need to check out Viper4Audio....
If you seriously think even Adapt Sound sounds good...you have NOOOOOOOOOOO idea....
And I should know. I came from an iPhone 5 and the stock SQ was absolutely terrible. Then I installed Viper4Audio and now I've heard things in my music I've never heard before...
Seriously guys. I can't endorse Viper4Audio enough...I really can't. I swear its worth the time and effort.

Earphones audio quality?

How is the audio quality with earphones (standard earphones)?

the phone actually doesn't come with any earphones, and i wouldn't expect the motorola ones that you can buy are anything out of the ordinary

jufa2401 said:
the phone actually doesn't come with any earphones, and i wouldn't expect the motorola ones that you can buy are anything out of the ordinary
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No, i mean with random earphones sorry

crondom said:
No, i mean with random earphones sorry
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The phone does come with earphones... the 16gb dual chip comes with earphones and wallcharger.

Allewar said:
The phone does come with earphones... the 16gb dual chip comes with earphones and wallcharger.
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But the 8gb no.

Allewar said:
The phone does come with earphones... the 16gb dual chip comes with earphones and wallcharger.
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are you sure ?

el-marino said:
are you sure ?
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here a picture I took:
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16gb single sim doesn't :/

Can someone compare the audio quality of the same file on the Moto G to another well known smartphone or mp3 player (like the Sansa Clip), using the same headphones?

Snappy0 said:
Can someone compare the audio quality of the same file on the Moto G to another well known smartphone or mp3 player (like the Sansa Clip), using the same headphones?
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Yeah that will be awesome

Also, I'd really appreciate it if someone could try some earphones with the inline mic and controls, maybe an apple pair?
Bill

Hey guys, i was wondering the same thing, so i did a test today. I hope it can also help others.
Short story of mine:
I have a more than 3 years old Galaxy S i9000 i want to replace. And after watching the market recent years, i really couldn't justify the prices for a new smartphone, because basically, they all are not far better than my old phone, which is still rocking till this day (even with Kitkat ROM already).
Galaxy S is known for its pristine audio quality thanks to Wolfson audio chip (which real quality can be unleashed with an app called voodoo sound).
So as i found Moto G i was stoked. The price is hot, it has everything i would need, not more not less. The software is very snappy thanks to Google as Motorola's new owner optimizing the heck out of it, battery life is great, it has stock OS, and once again: the price is just crazy good. The last thing i had to check out was the sound quality.
So i went to a local shop with a Moto G 8GB. I brought my Galaxy S, and my trusted in ear monitor: Ultimate Ears triple fi 10 pro. Those earphones are legit. (Before somebody asks, why i would give so much money for earbuds, but not for phone: i use them as a monitor on stage as well). So i copied some reference tracks from Galaxy S to Moto G via Bluetooth and compared the sound quality side by side. Genres included: Hard Rock, Jazz, Classical, and Pop.
It was obvious at the first track: (Bombtrack from Rage Against the Machine).
Lot of hiss at Moto G, even at low levels. Then when the band starts rocking, the low frequency just sucks, also it sounds like the mids are just not really there, and the highs are bumped to compensate, which is fatiguing after a short time. Put the earphones back to my Galaxy S, oh God, i know why i love its audio quality.
I remember doing some similar tests with previous models like Galaxy S3, some HTC, etc. Galaxy killed them all, but the difference was never been this obvious. Maybe i'm bit spoiled in this area, and i don't know if it's relevant with cheap earphones, as high quality earphones always reveal the weaknesses.
I guess you just can't have everything at those prices.
Too bad, i guess i'll wait bit more till i say goodbye to my Galaxy S (can't live without it, can't kill it :laugh: )
Like i said, if you're set to buy it, try it yourself, maybe it's not that relevant to you. Otherwise you might look somewhere else.

ooohhh2 said:
Lot of hiss at Moto G, even at low levels. Then when the band starts rocking, the low frequency just sucks, also it sounds like the mids are just not really there, and the highs are bumped to compensate, which is fatiguing after a short time.
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I thought exactly the same (okay maybe I don't have as much insight as yourself :laugh: ) when I got mine yesterday and was a little frustrated to say the least, but I think I've found the cause of the issue.
If you go into Settings->Sound->Audio effects then you will find a menu with all sorts of EQ settings for both the built in speaker and wired headphones. By default it is set on the '3D stereo' profile for some reason and it sounds terrible. I switched it to 'Custom' with Surround and Equaliser to off. Equaliser set to Balanced also sounds good depending on the music.
Hope this helps someone,
Bill

Thanks for that info, i'll test it again tomorrow then..

WillDroid said:
I thought exactly the same (okay maybe I don't have as much insight as yourself :laugh: ) when I got mine yesterday and was a little frustrated to say the least, but I think I've found the cause of the issue.
If you go into Settings->Sound->Audio effects then you will find a menu with all sorts of EQ settings for both the built in speaker and wired headphones. By default it is set on the '3D stereo' profile for some reason and it sounds terrible. I switched it to 'Custom' with Surround and Equaliser to off. Equaliser set to Balanced also sounds good depending on the music.
Hope this helps someone,
Bill
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i realy like to listen to music on my phone so i really hope the sound is not to bad on moto g because i will buy it soon.. i hope other people will share their experience.

Well, this led me to a try:
I recorded the same song played on PC internal digitally (loop drivers) and once hooked the MotoG to my RME equipment, which has an astounding quality. Both spectral analysis' looked very much the same, so I think the DAC of the MotoG isn't that bad.
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WillDroid said:
I thought exactly the same (okay maybe I don't have as much insight as yourself :laugh: ) when I got mine yesterday and was a little frustrated to say the least, but I think I've found the cause of the issue.
If you go into Settings->Sound->Audio effects then you will find a menu with all sorts of EQ settings for both the built in speaker and wired headphones. By default it is set on the '3D stereo' profile for some reason and it sounds terrible. I switched it to 'Custom' with Surround and Equaliser to off. Equaliser set to Balanced also sounds good depending on the music.
Hope this helps someone,
Bill
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this is absolutley correct.
I had an HTC One, which sounded worse than the Moto G. Nothing wrong with the audio output + it's got an equalizer to fiddle to one's own needs.
Tested with my old but good Shure headphones.

Sounds like the EQ is messing things up. We will have to wait until all the people who ordered the phone come flooding in here to discuss it and we can come to a consensus.

Has anyone tried ViPER4Android on rooted moto g?
i'm using it on my current phone, it's a great software.to enhance music quality.

I for one am not impressed with the audio quality on the Moto G. It sound mushy and not clear at all. And yes I have been through the audio settings and tried a few different settings and tried Viper4Android.
Reading the responses above I'm starting to feel like my unit is somehow damaged.

Thermal Pics of my Moto X Pure

I had to do a factory reset on my LG G watch to get it to pair correctly with my Moto Pure. Anyhow, I was snapping a couple of pics and thought some of you might like to view...

Awesome pics, love the third one.

HaHa...

I'm getting that ash wood back as well but white front and champagne accent. Glad you posted these! How has the battery life been for you thus far?

Oh yeah the battery man?
Dig the pictures. Looks awesome.

Look, guys, I have ALWAYS come from a background of using EXTENDED batteries for my phones. Damn, the size! My choice was between this Moto Pure and the LG G4 and its removable battery. I opted for this Moto. I love it, but the battery life is ho-humm for me. I've been up since 8 am and it's now 5pm. I have 41 percent battery life left. I have used it a bit, 2h 4mins SOT and I keep it at full brightness, but using adaptive brightness.
I think for most this is fine. With the quick charger it comes with and my various others I recently bought, I'll be fine. It's those times when my family goes to the mtns and such that I wish I had an extended battery, but I'll be happy enough with this.
I will say that the wood back is slick/slippery and what's even more slippery is the metal sides. I am afraid of dropping this thing. But I figured as much when I placed my order and I knew I'd be buying a case for it. So why go with wood only to place it in a cover? Resell down the line. So long as I choose a case that doesn't do more damage to the finish than good. Another thing about the wood is that I have greasy hands/skin/hair and the wood shows this badly. Regardless....
I LOVE THIS PHONE!!!!

One further worry I have is with my sweaty palms (sounds dirty, I know). I'm afraid this will damage the wood in quick fashion if I don't get a case on it. But perhaps this isn't much of a problem as I've never had a wood back in any previous phones. I just know what water does to wood/laminate/etc. Again, I'll be putting a case around this puppy so no worries. Love the phone thus far. It's sexy and sophisticated for sure.

One last gripe for now is that because I have larger hands, I'd love the Moto dimple to be placed toward the top of the phone more by about 3/4" - 1". I don't use it at all in the location it's in, which was never a selling point for me anyway.

Thanks for showing your DAC/amp - headphone setup. Which FiiO is that? Is that a USB OTG cable between the X and the FiiO? How does the X sound with and without the FiiO? Thanks!

Hey, with the E18, does your screen stay on once you've got the DAC on?
I've got a 2014 X and the E18 keeps my screen on until I manually turn it off.

Yes, that's a USB On the Go (Or maybe not USB OTG being that its micro usb to micro?) connection from the Moto Pure to my Fiio E18 Kunlun. The Fiio does not keep the Moto from going into sleep, sleeps just fine. I use Poweramp as a player and I have not done any A/B comparisons with the Moto and my old Note 2. In theory the dac in the Fiio should handle the audio processing so it should sound no different, but perhaps there is something I am not aware of. Point is, things sound great and all is well.
Also as to how does the Fiio sound compared to the regular headphone jack from the moto, well, again I haven't done much A/B comparison. Things always sound better with a decent Dac/amp. My Philips Fidelio X2's are easy to drive so they sound great straight from the Moto, but yeah, the Fiio E18 will always sound better.

I hate that you have to factory reset your watch to pair with a new device. Or even if you factory reset your phone you'll have to factory reset your watch. Major pain to have to set everything up and go through all the tutorials again. Love the photos though. I got the walnut back with the dark grey accents and it's so purty.
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Yeah, I'm using the factory supplied bumper for now as I wait to see what cases there are to offer. Now that I have the phone in hand, I really, really don't want to cover up the wood back. It's gorgeous, but I really need convenience as well and the ability to plop the phone down on a hard surface. Maybe we'll find it's easy to replace the backs. I've taken apart many a phone for various reasons so it shouldn't be too bad. So long as replacement rears don't cost too much. If such was the case, perhaps I would feel more compelled to go naked. Then again, I always look for more protection for the camera lens on my phones...

Bizill said:
Yes, that's a USB On the Go (Or maybe not USB OTG being that its micro usb to micro?) connection from the Moto Pure to my Fiio E18 Kunlun. The Fiio does not keep the Moto from going into sleep, sleeps just fine. I use Poweramp as a player and I have not done any A/B comparisons with the Moto and my old Note 2. In theory the dac in the Fiio should handle the audio processing so it should sound no different, but perhaps there is something I am not aware of. Point is, things sound great and all is well.
Also as to how does the Fiio sound compared to the regular headphone jack from the moto, well, again I haven't done much A/B comparison. Things always sound better with a decent Dac/amp. My Philips Fidelio X2's are easy to drive so they sound great straight from the Moto, but yeah, the Fiio E18 will always sound better.
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Very good to know, looks like it is time for me to start looking into portable DACs, just need to find something that has at least a Wolfson WM8975 or better.
What do you use as your media player?

I just use Poweramp. I guess on some phones back in the day and perhaps still that have USB OTG had issues working with standard players so many used USB Audio Recorder Pro, but my Note 2 never had issues so I used Poweramp and do with my Moto as well. No issues.

Headphone audio quality
Thanks for posting!
i've been looking at the most recent reviews for any information on the audio quality out the headphone jack. I have an O2 amp which i use with my iPhone. What's the headphone audio quality in your opinion?

Again, it sounds pretty good to me, but I haven't done any critical listening since I've had the phone. No A/B comparisons nor any listening sessions past 5 minutes in a not so quiet room with open back headphones.
Straight out of the headphone jack was not bad in the quick listening, but compared to my fiio e18, it's a bit lacking as you would expect. Your amp will help, but I'd venture to guess you'd want to use your audio program's equalizer. YMMV. You may find it perfectly acceptable. Sorry I couldn't help more. I haven't made time to listen to my headphones much.

Bizill said:
Again, it sounds pretty good to me, but I haven't done any critical listening since I've had the phone. No A/B comparisons nor any listening sessions past 5 minutes in a not so quiet room with open back headphones.
Straight out of the headphone jack was not bad in the quick listening, but compared to my fiio e18, it's a bit lacking as you would expect. Your amp will help, but I'd venture to guess you'd want to use your audio program's equalizer. YMMV. You may find it perfectly acceptable. Sorry I couldn't help more. I haven't made time to listen to my headphones much.
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Hey OP, just curious if you have the newer rev. B version of the E18 or the older one.
does yours look like this at the bottom:
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Rev B.

Bizill said:
Rev B.
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Drat, that's probably why.
Just had the chance to connect my rev A. E18 to my new X and it acts funny. Sound through the same connections has a very low gain. And once I unplug the E18 my X's power button stops working, haha.
Thanks for the quick reply.