Thermal Pics of my Moto X Pure - X Style (Pure) General

I had to do a factory reset on my LG G watch to get it to pair correctly with my Moto Pure. Anyhow, I was snapping a couple of pics and thought some of you might like to view...

Awesome pics, love the third one.

HaHa...

I'm getting that ash wood back as well but white front and champagne accent. Glad you posted these! How has the battery life been for you thus far?

Oh yeah the battery man?
Dig the pictures. Looks awesome.

Look, guys, I have ALWAYS come from a background of using EXTENDED batteries for my phones. Damn, the size! My choice was between this Moto Pure and the LG G4 and its removable battery. I opted for this Moto. I love it, but the battery life is ho-humm for me. I've been up since 8 am and it's now 5pm. I have 41 percent battery life left. I have used it a bit, 2h 4mins SOT and I keep it at full brightness, but using adaptive brightness.
I think for most this is fine. With the quick charger it comes with and my various others I recently bought, I'll be fine. It's those times when my family goes to the mtns and such that I wish I had an extended battery, but I'll be happy enough with this.
I will say that the wood back is slick/slippery and what's even more slippery is the metal sides. I am afraid of dropping this thing. But I figured as much when I placed my order and I knew I'd be buying a case for it. So why go with wood only to place it in a cover? Resell down the line. So long as I choose a case that doesn't do more damage to the finish than good. Another thing about the wood is that I have greasy hands/skin/hair and the wood shows this badly. Regardless....
I LOVE THIS PHONE!!!!

One further worry I have is with my sweaty palms (sounds dirty, I know). I'm afraid this will damage the wood in quick fashion if I don't get a case on it. But perhaps this isn't much of a problem as I've never had a wood back in any previous phones. I just know what water does to wood/laminate/etc. Again, I'll be putting a case around this puppy so no worries. Love the phone thus far. It's sexy and sophisticated for sure.

One last gripe for now is that because I have larger hands, I'd love the Moto dimple to be placed toward the top of the phone more by about 3/4" - 1". I don't use it at all in the location it's in, which was never a selling point for me anyway.

Thanks for showing your DAC/amp - headphone setup. Which FiiO is that? Is that a USB OTG cable between the X and the FiiO? How does the X sound with and without the FiiO? Thanks!

Hey, with the E18, does your screen stay on once you've got the DAC on?
I've got a 2014 X and the E18 keeps my screen on until I manually turn it off.

Yes, that's a USB On the Go (Or maybe not USB OTG being that its micro usb to micro?) connection from the Moto Pure to my Fiio E18 Kunlun. The Fiio does not keep the Moto from going into sleep, sleeps just fine. I use Poweramp as a player and I have not done any A/B comparisons with the Moto and my old Note 2. In theory the dac in the Fiio should handle the audio processing so it should sound no different, but perhaps there is something I am not aware of. Point is, things sound great and all is well.
Also as to how does the Fiio sound compared to the regular headphone jack from the moto, well, again I haven't done much A/B comparison. Things always sound better with a decent Dac/amp. My Philips Fidelio X2's are easy to drive so they sound great straight from the Moto, but yeah, the Fiio E18 will always sound better.

I hate that you have to factory reset your watch to pair with a new device. Or even if you factory reset your phone you'll have to factory reset your watch. Major pain to have to set everything up and go through all the tutorials again. Love the photos though. I got the walnut back with the dark grey accents and it's so purty.
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Yeah, I'm using the factory supplied bumper for now as I wait to see what cases there are to offer. Now that I have the phone in hand, I really, really don't want to cover up the wood back. It's gorgeous, but I really need convenience as well and the ability to plop the phone down on a hard surface. Maybe we'll find it's easy to replace the backs. I've taken apart many a phone for various reasons so it shouldn't be too bad. So long as replacement rears don't cost too much. If such was the case, perhaps I would feel more compelled to go naked. Then again, I always look for more protection for the camera lens on my phones...

Bizill said:
Yes, that's a USB On the Go (Or maybe not USB OTG being that its micro usb to micro?) connection from the Moto Pure to my Fiio E18 Kunlun. The Fiio does not keep the Moto from going into sleep, sleeps just fine. I use Poweramp as a player and I have not done any A/B comparisons with the Moto and my old Note 2. In theory the dac in the Fiio should handle the audio processing so it should sound no different, but perhaps there is something I am not aware of. Point is, things sound great and all is well.
Also as to how does the Fiio sound compared to the regular headphone jack from the moto, well, again I haven't done much A/B comparison. Things always sound better with a decent Dac/amp. My Philips Fidelio X2's are easy to drive so they sound great straight from the Moto, but yeah, the Fiio E18 will always sound better.
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Very good to know, looks like it is time for me to start looking into portable DACs, just need to find something that has at least a Wolfson WM8975 or better.
What do you use as your media player?

I just use Poweramp. I guess on some phones back in the day and perhaps still that have USB OTG had issues working with standard players so many used USB Audio Recorder Pro, but my Note 2 never had issues so I used Poweramp and do with my Moto as well. No issues.

Headphone audio quality
Thanks for posting!
i've been looking at the most recent reviews for any information on the audio quality out the headphone jack. I have an O2 amp which i use with my iPhone. What's the headphone audio quality in your opinion?

Again, it sounds pretty good to me, but I haven't done any critical listening since I've had the phone. No A/B comparisons nor any listening sessions past 5 minutes in a not so quiet room with open back headphones.
Straight out of the headphone jack was not bad in the quick listening, but compared to my fiio e18, it's a bit lacking as you would expect. Your amp will help, but I'd venture to guess you'd want to use your audio program's equalizer. YMMV. You may find it perfectly acceptable. Sorry I couldn't help more. I haven't made time to listen to my headphones much.

Bizill said:
Again, it sounds pretty good to me, but I haven't done any critical listening since I've had the phone. No A/B comparisons nor any listening sessions past 5 minutes in a not so quiet room with open back headphones.
Straight out of the headphone jack was not bad in the quick listening, but compared to my fiio e18, it's a bit lacking as you would expect. Your amp will help, but I'd venture to guess you'd want to use your audio program's equalizer. YMMV. You may find it perfectly acceptable. Sorry I couldn't help more. I haven't made time to listen to my headphones much.
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Hey OP, just curious if you have the newer rev. B version of the E18 or the older one.
does yours look like this at the bottom:
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Rev B.

Bizill said:
Rev B.
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Drat, that's probably why.
Just had the chance to connect my rev A. E18 to my new X and it acts funny. Sound through the same connections has a very low gain. And once I unplug the E18 my X's power button stops working, haha.
Thanks for the quick reply.

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Searching for In-Ear Headphones

Hello People =)
I don´t like the Original Headphones for my lovely Diamond... so now I´m searchin for In - Ear Headphones. Much better sound and much more comfotable, I think.
So, now I´m searching for them
Any Ideas? Expirience?
Greetings to all of you =)
trying for quite some time. Dont see any in the stores. But adapters are there to give a 3.5mm interface. you can find them in amazon or wmstore or just google.
downside is you cant use the FM (atleast in my case)
well u can head over to head-fi.org and read up from all the headphone people there.
Adapters are a quite good idea...
I´ve seen some Bluetooth adapters to. But they are from Sony Erricsson. Ithink i will take a look for them
Sony ones are awesome for me.
First had MDL EX91, then EX71, then moved onto panasonic ones and now back to Sony (one of the newer cheaper models).
All in-ear earphones from Sony seem to sound the same. It's just the design that varies.
If your're into bass, listening to alot of electronic music and stuffs.. go for it.
get an adapter and check out the Sennheiser ones (MX500 etc), superb sound and the noise reduction is actually amazing.
Addicteddddd said:
get an adapter and check out the Sennheiser ones (MX500 etc), superb sound and the noise reduction is actually amazing.
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Google the MM200s (soon to be released) - stereo 'goodness' plus handsfree!!
TShill7
FM-radio won't work with adapter??
If you use an adapter FM works as usual.
Perhaps other poster meant for A2DP headphones.
Using a proper headphone with adapter makes a lot difference compared to the bundled headphones.
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I din't like the HTC Ear Phones, So I made one for myself. and disabled the call button press that was built in to it , and soldered a small pcb with filter which I got from an old walkman (the small box thing) and added a small magnetic filter in it, and now It works flawlessly and sounds richer using a full headset.
you'll need the 3.5mm adaptor thingy...
but in terms of the actualy headphones themselves, it depends on what type of "sound" you're looking for. if you want bass rich ones then look no further than the sony's.
but if you want a clean, flat and authentic reproduction of sound then look no further than the Ultimate Ears super-fi. i use them as a musician and they are frickin awesome
HTC Phones:
- bad sound quality
- not confortable
- long...long...long cable, 1m60!
-it'not really practical to put them in your pocket and spend 30 sec playing with the knots
So here's what I've done with my HTC Phones:
For instance I solved the last two problems.
-open the mic plastic small case the one where is writted HTC
- cut 2 wires: the one that came from the plug, and the one from the longest head phone.
-cut the yellow glue wits a cutter
- take the small circuit out
- with a small solderind iron (20W is more than enough) unsold the cables you have just cutted
- prepare the cables to be soldered
- attention: these cables have a resine so you have to put them in acid (acetone is not enough) or withe a small cutter try to scrath gentli the wires.
- sold the wires back to the small electronic circuit, and mount the mic.
That's it, I have a smaller cable that is realy easy to use and the number of knots when I put it in the pocket is reduced by 4
The best in-ear headphpnes are made by:
Shure
Ultimate Ears
Etymotic Research
Some less expensive but still rather good models are made by:
Jays
Denon
Sennheiser
I would *not* recommend Sony or any other common consumer brand. The threshold of usability starts around $50, and gets a lot better through $100-$150. The upper end units are $200-$500. I have a pair of Denons at about $90 that have good audio, are rugged, and comfortable. However, the quality difference using some of the more expensive Shure's is quite noticable. NOTE! For this style, fit is EVERYTHING. No fit, no bass. Experiment with different earseals.
Have a look at the Sleek Audio adjustable SA6, with the Kleer wireless unit coming up.
I'm with DrewVS on this. I have some Shure e2c's
I use them for both my Ipod and Diamond via the HTC > 3.5mm connector which I picked up offline for about £3 / $5.
The Shure's, with the various isolating earpieces that you can fit to your ear canal perfectly are quite possibly the best around in terms of voice reproduction. The Bass maybe a bit light, but seeing that I'm not a bass head, and like (female) vocals, the e2c's fit the bill perfectly and make the sound from the Diamond using Pocket Player better than my Ipod...
A little expensive... but you pay for what you get. Anything cheaper than these... or the wrong side of some decent Sony's and you're cutting back on the sound quality significantly...
IMO of course...
alcook said:
The Shure's, with the various isolating earpieces that you can fit to your ear canal perfectly are quite possibly the best around in terms of voice reproduction. The Bass maybe a bit light, but seeing that I'm not a bass head, and like (female) vocals, the e2c's fit the bill perfectly and make the sound from the Diamond using Pocket Player better than my Ipod...
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generally ipod sounds bad... look good tho.
i really recommend e2c, they mayb dont fit all ears but if they fit they will stay there not come out cuz a little accidently pull and isolates u from the background noise extremly good. My e2c just broke after 3 years of use... the cable has the tendency of dry out and crack open.
but still they are very good.
I suggest the CX500 - Try this chap:http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/projector_outlet
I have bought off him. Then use the HTC controller thing: http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=166221
These work very well together.
I hope this helps....
Will
Just go to www.dv247.com and check out their range, an idea of quality would be the price bracket:
£1-£30 - Crap
£30-£100 - Reasonable
£100+ - Very Good
If money is not an issue then I would go for the Shure's they are about £160, can't quite remember their model number.
My personal opinion, however, would be to get a proper set of cans, they always produce a better sound and can be made less intrusive with the design of Bose nosie reducing.
If you want real clarity then DT770's all the way! More or less studio standards!
Weisan said:
generally ipod sounds bad... look good tho.
i really recommend e2c, they mayb dont fit all ears but if they fit they will stay there not come out cuz a little accidently pull and isolates u from the background noise extremly good. My e2c just broke after 3 years of use... the cable has the tendency of dry out and crack open.
but still they are very good.
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+1 I had them and sounds very good with HTC devices
Ipod has no bass it's famous !
DrewVS said:
The best in-ear headphpnes are made by:
Shure
Ultimate Ears
Etymotic Research
Some less expensive but still rather good models are made by:
Jays
Denon
Sennheiser
I would *not* recommend Sony or any other common consumer brand. The threshold of usability starts around $50, and gets a lot better through $100-$150. The upper end units are $200-$500. I have a pair of Denons at about $90 that have good audio, are rugged, and comfortable. However, the quality difference using some of the more expensive Shure's is quite noticable. NOTE! For this style, fit is EVERYTHING. No fit, no bass. Experiment with different earseals.
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Just to add WESTONE that used to make the best earphone (editors choice on earphonesolutions.com)
I had sony's earphones then etymotics er6-i then shure e2c, e4c then Westone UM2
for less than 50 dollars go for sony cause there is a gap in the quality compared to orginal htc's
for about 100 dollars go for Shure e2c. It's in my opinion the best you can get for that price
for 300 dollars don't hesitate and go for Westone UM2. I'm in love with it since the first day i put it in my ear......sound is outstanding....huge bass....deep bass......crystal treble........they are 119 dB so you can push the volume far and don't need to put the volume to high on the phone
Hope i helped you

[Review] Headphones-SOL Republic Tracks HD

As an addition to my review for the SOL Republic AMPS HD that I recently had the honor of receiving and testing out at a cheap price, I was able to grab the over-the-head/over-the-ear cans, SOL Republic Tracks HD.
If you read my AMPS HD review, I couldn't rave enough about them, and these are no different.
These cans are awesome...to sum it up. I wore it around the office and did some scanning and pretty much everyone in the office commented on how nice they looked from "normal" headphones you see out today. Yes the Klipsche's and the Sennheiser's still have their following, and I have yet to try them. I am no way knocking those brands, I am just reviewing on things I have.
First off, the price. They retail for $130USD. But you can possibly get a deal on ebay. But be warned, if you buy off ebay, the warranty will not be honored by SOL Republic, unless they recognize the seller as an authorized one. The price is totally worth it, even though I didn't pay that amount . But if I had the choice, this would be the one to buy. If you have a Best Buy close to you, they have Sol Republics there, and also they do sell them at the local Apple stores as well.
Next the look....
I'll post pics at the end of the review, but upon opening the Tracks HD, they have a good weight to them, not heavy at all. The head band is the flex kind and is said to be virtually unbreakable. The "sound engines" as they call it, the weight reminds me of POGS lol....memories.....ok back to the sound engines, the ear pads are really comfy soft and the neat thing is that these bad boys actually come apart from the head band. So does the cord as well. Being everything can be a 'component', this means one can mix and match headbands and different colored wires, and etc.... But I'll stick with my white ones. It matches the back of my white phone . The cord has the three button function, mainly for iPhones, but only the center button works. Paired these cans up with the Jays Headset app found free on the market and now I can control the volume and tracks as well. I don't need those extra buttons lol...The mic works with our phones as well in taking calls. I can easily say these are the best sounding headsets one can have to be used with a phone.
Finally the sound...
Once broken in (about 1-2 hours), these guys are bad-a$$! I mean it's definitely up to the end user to like or dislike these, but the clarity is so nice, and the bass is there and not overpowering, but are on the bass heavy side if that makes sense. I have listened to Rhianna, Bad vs Evil, Lasers, Jessie J, and a few Paul Mc Cartney tracks. They all sound great but I have to say these cans are geared for more of the club/dance/hip hop genre. Don't get me wrong, you will NOT be dissapointed if you listen to various ranges of music, it's my preference. I have my V-Moda Crossfades and they have been my favorite for years. They have a bit less bass but are clear as heck. So I would peg these Tracks HD in league with the Crossfades in clarity and look. But as for a carrying case, V-Moda has it in the bag...speaking of bag, that's what these Tracks HD come in. Because the tracks do not fold the bag is quite big compared to the Crossfade's exoskeleton case. I just wish they could maybe incorporate the headband as a handle of some sort to become part of the case. I mean this headband is durable!
Are there any bad things to say??
Yes there are . Even though these are my favorites thus far, edging out my Crossfades by a hair, there are a few things I wish were a bit better. For one, the carrying case. Not too impressed. Second, the support for other phones other than Apple. C'mon, Sol Republic..ever hear of Android?? And finally the cord. It seems a bit short and I know for a fact that if you use this for like DJ'ing, this cord is not going to cut it. What would I change? I would say the carrying case would be the primary thing I would alter. And then maybe the length of the cord. And with that bring in some sort of clip to secure it. Oh and the cord would have to be tangle free! This cord is pretty good but the short cord does away with any real good tangles.
Here are the pics...thanks for reading!
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As an addition to my review for the SOL Republic AMPS HD that I recently had the honor of receiving and testing out at a cheap price, I was able to grab the over-the-head/over-the-ear cans, SOL Republic Tracks HD.
If you read my AMPS HD review, I couldn't rave enough about them, and these are no different.
These cans are awesome...to sum it up. I wore it around the office and did some scanning and pretty much everyone in the office commented on how nice they looked from "normal" headphones you see out today. Yes the Klipsche's and the Sennheiser's still have their following, and I have yet to try them. I am no way knocking those brands, I am just reviewing on things I have.
First off, the price. They retail for $130USD. But you can possibly get a deal on ebay. But be warned, if you buy off ebay, the warranty will not be honored by SOL Republic, unless they recognize the seller as an authorized one. The price is totally worth it, even though I didn't pay that amount . But if I had the choice, this would be the one to buy. If you have a Best Buy close to you, they have Sol Republics there, and also they do sell them at the local Apple stores as well.
Next the look....
I'll post pics at the end of the review, but upon opening the Tracks HD, they have a good weight to them, not heavy at all. The head band is the flex kind and is said to be virtually unbreakable. The "sound engines" as they call it, the weight reminds me of POGS lol....memories.....ok back to the sound engines, the ear pads are really comfy soft and the neat thing is that these bad boys actually come apart from the head band. So does the cord as well. Being everything can be a 'component', this means one can mix and match headbands and different colored wires, and etc.... But I'll stick with my white ones. It matches the back of my white phone . The cord has the three button function, mainly for iPhones, but only the center button works. Paired these cans up with the Jays Headset app found free on the market and now I can control the volume and tracks as well. I don't need those extra buttons lol...The mic works with our phones as well in taking calls. I can easily say these are the best sounding headsets one can have to be used with a phone.
Finally the sound...
Once broken in (about 1-2 hours), these guys are bad-a$$! I mean it's definitely up to the end user to like or dislike these, but the clarity is so nice, and the bass is there and not overpowering, but are on the bass heavy side if that makes sense. I have listened to Rhianna, Bad vs Evil, Lasers, Jessie J, and a few Paul Mc Cartney tracks. They all sound great but I have to say these cans are geared for more of the club/dance/hip hop genre. Don't get me wrong, you will NOT be dissapointed if you listen to various ranges of music, it's my preference. I have my V-Moda Crossfades and they have been my favorite for years. They have a bit less bass but are clear as heck. So I would peg these Tracks HD in league with the Crossfades in clarity and look. But as for a carrying case, V-Moda has it in the bag...speaking of bag, that's what these Tracks HD come in. Because the tracks do not fold the bag is quite big compared to the Crossfade's exoskeleton case. I just wish they could maybe incorporate the headband as a handle of some sort to become part of the case. I mean this headband is durable!
Are there any bad things to say??
Yes there are . Even though these are my favorites thus far, edging out my Crossfades by a hair, there are a few things I wish were a bit better. For one, the carrying case. Not too impressed. Second, the support for other phones other than Apple. C'mon, Sol Republic..ever hear of Android?? And finally the cord. It seems a bit short and I know for a fact that if you use this for like DJ'ing, this cord is not going to cut it. What would I change? I would say the carrying case would be the primary thing I would alter. And then maybe the length of the cord. And with that bring in some sort of clip to secure it. Oh and the cord would have to be tangle free! This cord is pretty good but the short cord does away with any real good tangles.
Here are the pics...thanks for reading!
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I have these same headphones and I agree 100%
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Post Your Car Setup here!

I ordered this Accessories for my Car Setup:
http://www.osomount.com/our-mounts/13-oso-zero-mount.html
http://www.belkin.com/us/F4U037-Belkin/p/P-F4U037
and a Belkin 1.8m ChargeSync Cable
I tell later how good this works.
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I'm thinking about getting the Griffin BlueTrip since it's low profile. If there's a friction mount that will work on this phone, I would probably snag one.
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Here's what I have. It all works like a charm.
I don't have link posting privileges so Amazon listing titles will have to do.
Mountek nGroove Universal CD Slot Mount (Black)
Belkin F8Z492TTP Bluetooth Music Receiver
Griffin Powerjolt Dual Universal USB Micro Colors May Vary
The mount clamps onto the inside of my CD slot. I think it's better than windshield suction for reliability.
The Bluetooth unit only comes with a wall charger. Luckily it requires 5V for power so I cut off that end and put a USB plug on it. The auxiliary audio cable is included.
I got that power adapter because it sits totally flush with my power port.
My car's auxiliary audio jack and power port are inside the centre console so it's all hidden away. I haven't had to look at it since I first put it in. It pairs perfectly every time.
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875991014
Overall I'm fairly satisfied. My HU doesn't have bluetooth and I didn't want to pay to get another one. Also, the X2 will continue charging my phone even when I'm running Pandora and Waze at the same time.
Okay fellas. Is there any way to get the awesome blue tooth connectivity junk in a car with a cassette player?
EDIT.: PLEASE IGNORE LOL
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http://www.belkin.com/us/F4U037-Belkin/p/P-F4U037
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Let me know how well that bluetooth receiver sounds with your music. I've been looking for something exactly like this but have read lots of bad reviews of the sound quality using these bluetooth adapters.
I use TuneLink for Android, which is basically a Bluetooth to FM transmitter for cars like mine without a 3.5mm Aux Input. Sound quality is really good and miles apart from other FM transmitters I have used over the years.
http://www.newpotatotech.com/TUNELINK_ANDROID/tunelink_android.html
Found a better deal for the belkin bluetooth here http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004CLYJ2I?in=4&is=300&qid=1357392847&sr=8-16 I been using it for a month just for music since I have bluetooth in my car for calls. It sounds pretty good and I only paid 36 for it a month ago on Amazon
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sn0warmy said:
Let me know how well that bluetooth receiver sounds with your music. I've been looking for something exactly like this but have read lots of bad reviews of the sound quality using these bluetooth adapters.
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If you have a nice audio system in your car and are accustomed to Hi-Fi audio in your vehicle (i.e. always opting for higher bit rate MP3, AAC, or even AIFF), there is NO bluetooth setup that you are going to be satisfied with for music.
While I use BT to listen to podcasts on my phone, I still burn CDs or use a direct connection for music. BT is convenient, but not even close to hi quality audio (hell... it isn't even close to a mid rate mp3). Anyone who tells you different either has never heard hi quality audio, or simply does not care about it.
Solutions Etcetera said:
If you have a nice audio system in your car and are accustomed to Hi-Fi audio in your vehicle (i.e. always opting for higher bit rate MP3, AAC, or even AIFF), there is NO bluetooth setup that you are going to be satisfied with for music.
While I use BT to listen to podcasts on my phone, I still burn CDs or use a direct connection for music. BT is convenient, but not even close to hi quality audio (hell... it isn't even close to a mid rate mp3). Anyone who tells you different either has never heard hi quality audio, or simply does not care about it.
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I guess you can throw me in the "does not care about it" pile. lol. I have been using the HTC Stereo clip in my setup for audio and the thing thumps! I don't have hi fi sh!t in the car, just an aftermarket JVC with an aux port for the stereo clip, some aftermarket speakers that fit the stock setup (I have a 4 yr old to lug around in my truck) so space is limited, especially in going shoppping.
I used to feel the same way when I used my itouch years ago with those belkin FM transmitters. Depending where you are if there are saturated radio stations in your city, the FM transmitters will sound really crappy. But once you hit a clear spot, it's ok, but you can hear the static here and there. From that point, I had a tape deck in my car. Used the tape aux setup and plugged that into the itouch and that sounded 100x better.
But after saying that, I migrated back to burning random CD's until about a half year ago. When I got the stereo clip, using poweramp to tweak it's settings on the bt side, and the sound was just as good as a burned CD IMO.
But keep in mind, "I just don't care about it", remember? I somewhat agree that listening to CDs would be the clearest way to go and burning them is the next step to mix what you want, but doing that on the fly in poweramp or similar, is just so much more convenient not to mention less wires to mess with. I mean I remember adding gps onto my Sony Clie N70 pda. God that was like stringing xmas lights lol.
Bottom line, it really depends on how far you want to go in getting the "best" sound for your. Like for me that just don't care, I'm sure many of you will find something suitable. I guess that's the reason for this thread, no?
Why not just put all your music on a USB flash drive and stick it into your car?
solves both your problems.
facetubespam said:
Why not just put all your music on a USB flash drive and stick it into your car?
solves both your problems.
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Well for me, I only have an aux port no usb port on my HU. Not gonna spring on a new HU when the truck has 140k miles on it.
I've gone for the Mountek. Very impressed with the build quality...
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Earphones audio quality?

How is the audio quality with earphones (standard earphones)?
the phone actually doesn't come with any earphones, and i wouldn't expect the motorola ones that you can buy are anything out of the ordinary
jufa2401 said:
the phone actually doesn't come with any earphones, and i wouldn't expect the motorola ones that you can buy are anything out of the ordinary
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No, i mean with random earphones sorry
crondom said:
No, i mean with random earphones sorry
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The phone does come with earphones... the 16gb dual chip comes with earphones and wallcharger.
Allewar said:
The phone does come with earphones... the 16gb dual chip comes with earphones and wallcharger.
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But the 8gb no.
Allewar said:
The phone does come with earphones... the 16gb dual chip comes with earphones and wallcharger.
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are you sure ?
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are you sure ?
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here a picture I took:
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here a picture I took:
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16gb single sim doesn't :/
Can someone compare the audio quality of the same file on the Moto G to another well known smartphone or mp3 player (like the Sansa Clip), using the same headphones?
Snappy0 said:
Can someone compare the audio quality of the same file on the Moto G to another well known smartphone or mp3 player (like the Sansa Clip), using the same headphones?
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Yeah that will be awesome
Also, I'd really appreciate it if someone could try some earphones with the inline mic and controls, maybe an apple pair?
Bill
Hey guys, i was wondering the same thing, so i did a test today. I hope it can also help others.
Short story of mine:
I have a more than 3 years old Galaxy S i9000 i want to replace. And after watching the market recent years, i really couldn't justify the prices for a new smartphone, because basically, they all are not far better than my old phone, which is still rocking till this day (even with Kitkat ROM already).
Galaxy S is known for its pristine audio quality thanks to Wolfson audio chip (which real quality can be unleashed with an app called voodoo sound).
So as i found Moto G i was stoked. The price is hot, it has everything i would need, not more not less. The software is very snappy thanks to Google as Motorola's new owner optimizing the heck out of it, battery life is great, it has stock OS, and once again: the price is just crazy good. The last thing i had to check out was the sound quality.
So i went to a local shop with a Moto G 8GB. I brought my Galaxy S, and my trusted in ear monitor: Ultimate Ears triple fi 10 pro. Those earphones are legit. (Before somebody asks, why i would give so much money for earbuds, but not for phone: i use them as a monitor on stage as well). So i copied some reference tracks from Galaxy S to Moto G via Bluetooth and compared the sound quality side by side. Genres included: Hard Rock, Jazz, Classical, and Pop.
It was obvious at the first track: (Bombtrack from Rage Against the Machine).
Lot of hiss at Moto G, even at low levels. Then when the band starts rocking, the low frequency just sucks, also it sounds like the mids are just not really there, and the highs are bumped to compensate, which is fatiguing after a short time. Put the earphones back to my Galaxy S, oh God, i know why i love its audio quality.
I remember doing some similar tests with previous models like Galaxy S3, some HTC, etc. Galaxy killed them all, but the difference was never been this obvious. Maybe i'm bit spoiled in this area, and i don't know if it's relevant with cheap earphones, as high quality earphones always reveal the weaknesses.
I guess you just can't have everything at those prices.
Too bad, i guess i'll wait bit more till i say goodbye to my Galaxy S (can't live without it, can't kill it :laugh: )
Like i said, if you're set to buy it, try it yourself, maybe it's not that relevant to you. Otherwise you might look somewhere else.
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Lot of hiss at Moto G, even at low levels. Then when the band starts rocking, the low frequency just sucks, also it sounds like the mids are just not really there, and the highs are bumped to compensate, which is fatiguing after a short time.
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I thought exactly the same (okay maybe I don't have as much insight as yourself :laugh: ) when I got mine yesterday and was a little frustrated to say the least, but I think I've found the cause of the issue.
If you go into Settings->Sound->Audio effects then you will find a menu with all sorts of EQ settings for both the built in speaker and wired headphones. By default it is set on the '3D stereo' profile for some reason and it sounds terrible. I switched it to 'Custom' with Surround and Equaliser to off. Equaliser set to Balanced also sounds good depending on the music.
Hope this helps someone,
Bill
Thanks for that info, i'll test it again tomorrow then..
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I thought exactly the same (okay maybe I don't have as much insight as yourself :laugh: ) when I got mine yesterday and was a little frustrated to say the least, but I think I've found the cause of the issue.
If you go into Settings->Sound->Audio effects then you will find a menu with all sorts of EQ settings for both the built in speaker and wired headphones. By default it is set on the '3D stereo' profile for some reason and it sounds terrible. I switched it to 'Custom' with Surround and Equaliser to off. Equaliser set to Balanced also sounds good depending on the music.
Hope this helps someone,
Bill
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i realy like to listen to music on my phone so i really hope the sound is not to bad on moto g because i will buy it soon.. i hope other people will share their experience.
Well, this led me to a try:
I recorded the same song played on PC internal digitally (loop drivers) and once hooked the MotoG to my RME equipment, which has an astounding quality. Both spectral analysis' looked very much the same, so I think the DAC of the MotoG isn't that bad.
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added another analysis, somewhat more noise though
WillDroid said:
I thought exactly the same (okay maybe I don't have as much insight as yourself :laugh: ) when I got mine yesterday and was a little frustrated to say the least, but I think I've found the cause of the issue.
If you go into Settings->Sound->Audio effects then you will find a menu with all sorts of EQ settings for both the built in speaker and wired headphones. By default it is set on the '3D stereo' profile for some reason and it sounds terrible. I switched it to 'Custom' with Surround and Equaliser to off. Equaliser set to Balanced also sounds good depending on the music.
Hope this helps someone,
Bill
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this is absolutley correct.
I had an HTC One, which sounded worse than the Moto G. Nothing wrong with the audio output + it's got an equalizer to fiddle to one's own needs.
Tested with my old but good Shure headphones.
Sounds like the EQ is messing things up. We will have to wait until all the people who ordered the phone come flooding in here to discuss it and we can come to a consensus.
Has anyone tried ViPER4Android on rooted moto g?
i'm using it on my current phone, it's a great software.to enhance music quality.
I for one am not impressed with the audio quality on the Moto G. It sound mushy and not clear at all. And yes I have been through the audio settings and tried a few different settings and tried Viper4Android.
Reading the responses above I'm starting to feel like my unit is somehow damaged.

Sony SBH20 little review

Hey, since it has been released, i bought it and use it daily and now i have solid feedback to share you.
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What is that
SBH20 is stereo Bluetooth headset that has one particularity: NFC compatibility. You can use it for listening music or making calls either.
Where can i purchase it?
Straight Sony Mobile official website or many different suppliers like Amazon (which i highly recommend with good price though)
Unboxing
Package is minimalist.
Out of box, you got a tiny micro-usb charger, around 10 cm, along with USB power adapter of 850 mAh (EP800), headphones also shorter than Z's original ones, and its 3 different earbuds cover made in silicone, typical user guide and warranty.
Design
Sony provides really good job in term of design, same for that SBH20, minimalist, simple square in several colors (black, white, orange, pink, green...).
Its incredibly tiny and light.
measurements:
Size: 33.3 x 33.3 x 12.3 mm
Weight: 12.3 grams
look it deeply, it has matte plastic texture which seems to be the right choice, glossy tends to be easily scratched.
Main buttons as play, next and previous are engraved and indeed very hard too see.
You got also power button with LED indicator, volume buttons and 3.5 mm audio jack port.
Connection
You can appair with your phone through NFC.
How is it work?
Put it just above Xperia logo from the back of phone and it will appaired.
Dont forget to enable NFC.
However, NFC or not, the launch bothers me because of slowsness (way slower than my Sony headset that is also NFC and BT wireless)
Range of surprising good, you can still listening musics up to 15 m or even more until at the sounds starts suffering
Once, i went down the building stairs while listening music, 2 floors lower, the sounds started suffering and i eventually realized i forgot my phone in my apartment
You can also automatize it through Smart Connect in order to make events
e.g When enabling SBH20, it will automatically launch Walkman and playing music
When disabling SBH20, it will automatically disable Bluetooth, stopping music...
I highly recommend to use it.
Since 4.3 update, i have some connection issue, ''Throw'' was launched every time when i connect it
Since 4.3 update, i noticed some dysfunction with BT devices independently of NFC.
Sound quality
For music, sound quality is surprisingly respectable. At least for a smartphone, it will never approach a sound quality from great audio headset such as Fidelio L1, M1.
Wireless always lowers audio quality, however Sony has great idea to give you a bunch of good earphones (original's one and SBH20's one)
It makes sound less poor than expected.
Dont expect too much, its just average and well enough for such nomad use.
When it comes about calls, its another story.
When i am making calls through it, noise cancellation is terrible: you cant hear properly but the worse thing is interlocutor often barely hear you when you are talking
i believe its depends where you are
outside, on the jungle of street, drop it.
Battery
Sony proudly announced 6 hours of battery life.
I use it daily and quite disagree.
My average battery life up to 4 hours, 5 hours at the maximum
Yes battery life is crap, it could be better.
PROS
- It has cute design
- Tiny (you can put it away in your pocket)
- Earphones (way better than any crap from other smartphones)
- Useful for Z (if you are too lazy for opening jack's trap every time)
CONS
- Average battery life
- Average sound quality overall
Final thoughts
Buy it if you dont bother about the audio quality, otherwise get headset such as Fidelio L1, not same price though. You can find SBH20 for less than 25 euros on Amazon (within the Apple's earphone price range)
Battery might be just for a day of use or a long travel.
in comparison to a wired headset ..how is the bass ? i know it wont be the same but still would like to know
demonicjas said:
in comparison to a wired headset ..how is the bass ? i know it wont be the same but still would like to know
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Definitely flat but its depends of what wired headset you ve compared to.
Mine is also come from Sony and both makes sound flat
Wired headset always loses bass unless you are willing to put money on quality stuffs
e.g Parrot Zik is good enough (for general public i would mean) for a wired headset but really sucks if you compare to others none wireless audio headsets on the market such as Fidelio M1
The good thing is earbud cover earphones that make sounds more powerful with more bass
i am using them for about 5 month. Like them a lot. I think that was my best buy ) Battery life of phone from usual wired headphones and sbh-20 nearly same.
I'm using those since December and i can say they are very good. just today i did listen to music for about 4h.
I am too using this since 4-5 months. The sound is not great to write about, it just does it's job. If you are a music lover, then definitely a no-no. You can get about 1.5 hrs of (music playback + calls) with standby of about 4-5 hrs before the battery dies. I wish Sony had given a better battery life of atleast 8-10 hours and a better earphones with a good bass along with this device.
SBH52 lasts longer wthin 8-10 hours but you are going to lose its lovely miniaturization although its still quite small
best advice i would give for people who have heavy daily use or keep listening while travelling, plug your Z earphones into SBH20, its way longer, when battery life drained out, use earphone instead
Hi monsieur_debile,
I'm interested in this earphones or maybe SBH50 for my phone , does it work in any phone or only on phones by sony?
yes its bluetooth device, it should run on most of devices including iPhone
NFC would be only optional if you have NFC
i suggest you to pick SBH50 if you want better battery life otherwise SBH20 sounds good
Thanks monsieur_debile, next time i have to buy new earphones i'll consider it.
thx
Nice device I have a black version. thanks for share
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Nice device I have a black version. thanks for share
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How about volume levels? Is it loud enough? I have an xperia zr with not enough volume levels so i want to buy this.
I've had this headset for about 4 months and coupled with @proj.SoNICo audio mod and with the gauzes taken out of the headphones and the little plastic gromit inside,the sound is superb!! On My XZ Rooted UB and running eXistenZ V6 Black Edition!! And @halfbloodmutant..The volume is Awesome!!
Have my (black) SBH20 for three days, it is really quite good, especially for that price.
There is one thing I haven't figured out yet - does the LED color change depending on the charging process? I think, that when it is lower on the battery, it seems to be kinda yellowish and later gets full green, but it may be just me watching it too much
Good price. Maybe I will take one!
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Have my (black) SBH20 for three days, it is really quite good, especially for that price.
There is one thing I haven't figured out yet - does the LED color change depending on the charging process? I think, that when it is lower on the battery, it seems to be kinda yellowish and later gets full green, but it may be just me watching it too much
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i think yes,the colour of the led changes as you said with the charging process,same thing with my headset when the battery is low,yellow at first and then changes to green when fully charged!!
Hello mate!
Just a little question, i guess you've used the Sony-Headset MH-EX300AP, how does it compare Sound and Mic-wise?
Also how long do the batteries last?
This little bugger, seems to be just made for an Motorbike-Intercom System
Its seems to be pretty small so that it could theoretically even fit inside a helmet somewhere where you can reach it in the front, and due to the 3,5mm Jacket you could pair it with those :
Looking forward to your answers :good:
Works with another headset ?
Hi
I was wondering if i plug in my own headset with a built in mic and little remote, will it work ? Did anybody try that ?
I've been looking for 2 days now even called and emailed Sony assistance, nobody can answer...
Thanks
I got my white one yesterday.. sound quality and battery life is awesome..
siddhesh1609 said:
I got my white one yesterday.. sound quality and battery life is awesome..
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The sound quality is average man, but awsome for this price range.

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