Sony SBH20 little review - Xperia Z Accessories

Hey, since it has been released, i bought it and use it daily and now i have solid feedback to share you.
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What is that
SBH20 is stereo Bluetooth headset that has one particularity: NFC compatibility. You can use it for listening music or making calls either.
Where can i purchase it?
Straight Sony Mobile official website or many different suppliers like Amazon (which i highly recommend with good price though)
Unboxing
Package is minimalist.
Out of box, you got a tiny micro-usb charger, around 10 cm, along with USB power adapter of 850 mAh (EP800), headphones also shorter than Z's original ones, and its 3 different earbuds cover made in silicone, typical user guide and warranty.
Design
Sony provides really good job in term of design, same for that SBH20, minimalist, simple square in several colors (black, white, orange, pink, green...).
Its incredibly tiny and light.
measurements:
Size: 33.3 x 33.3 x 12.3 mm
Weight: 12.3 grams
look it deeply, it has matte plastic texture which seems to be the right choice, glossy tends to be easily scratched.
Main buttons as play, next and previous are engraved and indeed very hard too see.
You got also power button with LED indicator, volume buttons and 3.5 mm audio jack port.
Connection
You can appair with your phone through NFC.
How is it work?
Put it just above Xperia logo from the back of phone and it will appaired.
Dont forget to enable NFC.
However, NFC or not, the launch bothers me because of slowsness (way slower than my Sony headset that is also NFC and BT wireless)
Range of surprising good, you can still listening musics up to 15 m or even more until at the sounds starts suffering
Once, i went down the building stairs while listening music, 2 floors lower, the sounds started suffering and i eventually realized i forgot my phone in my apartment
You can also automatize it through Smart Connect in order to make events
e.g When enabling SBH20, it will automatically launch Walkman and playing music
When disabling SBH20, it will automatically disable Bluetooth, stopping music...
I highly recommend to use it.
Since 4.3 update, i have some connection issue, ''Throw'' was launched every time when i connect it
Since 4.3 update, i noticed some dysfunction with BT devices independently of NFC.
Sound quality
For music, sound quality is surprisingly respectable. At least for a smartphone, it will never approach a sound quality from great audio headset such as Fidelio L1, M1.
Wireless always lowers audio quality, however Sony has great idea to give you a bunch of good earphones (original's one and SBH20's one)
It makes sound less poor than expected.
Dont expect too much, its just average and well enough for such nomad use.
When it comes about calls, its another story.
When i am making calls through it, noise cancellation is terrible: you cant hear properly but the worse thing is interlocutor often barely hear you when you are talking
i believe its depends where you are
outside, on the jungle of street, drop it.
Battery
Sony proudly announced 6 hours of battery life.
I use it daily and quite disagree.
My average battery life up to 4 hours, 5 hours at the maximum
Yes battery life is crap, it could be better.
PROS
- It has cute design
- Tiny (you can put it away in your pocket)
- Earphones (way better than any crap from other smartphones)
- Useful for Z (if you are too lazy for opening jack's trap every time)
CONS
- Average battery life
- Average sound quality overall
Final thoughts
Buy it if you dont bother about the audio quality, otherwise get headset such as Fidelio L1, not same price though. You can find SBH20 for less than 25 euros on Amazon (within the Apple's earphone price range)
Battery might be just for a day of use or a long travel.

in comparison to a wired headset ..how is the bass ? i know it wont be the same but still would like to know

demonicjas said:
in comparison to a wired headset ..how is the bass ? i know it wont be the same but still would like to know
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Definitely flat but its depends of what wired headset you ve compared to.
Mine is also come from Sony and both makes sound flat
Wired headset always loses bass unless you are willing to put money on quality stuffs
e.g Parrot Zik is good enough (for general public i would mean) for a wired headset but really sucks if you compare to others none wireless audio headsets on the market such as Fidelio M1
The good thing is earbud cover earphones that make sounds more powerful with more bass

i am using them for about 5 month. Like them a lot. I think that was my best buy ) Battery life of phone from usual wired headphones and sbh-20 nearly same.

I'm using those since December and i can say they are very good. just today i did listen to music for about 4h.

I am too using this since 4-5 months. The sound is not great to write about, it just does it's job. If you are a music lover, then definitely a no-no. You can get about 1.5 hrs of (music playback + calls) with standby of about 4-5 hrs before the battery dies. I wish Sony had given a better battery life of atleast 8-10 hours and a better earphones with a good bass along with this device.

SBH52 lasts longer wthin 8-10 hours but you are going to lose its lovely miniaturization although its still quite small
best advice i would give for people who have heavy daily use or keep listening while travelling, plug your Z earphones into SBH20, its way longer, when battery life drained out, use earphone instead

Hi monsieur_debile,
I'm interested in this earphones or maybe SBH50 for my phone , does it work in any phone or only on phones by sony?

yes its bluetooth device, it should run on most of devices including iPhone
NFC would be only optional if you have NFC
i suggest you to pick SBH50 if you want better battery life otherwise SBH20 sounds good

Thanks monsieur_debile, next time i have to buy new earphones i'll consider it.

thx
Nice device I have a black version. thanks for share

ngeen88 said:
Nice device I have a black version. thanks for share
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How about volume levels? Is it loud enough? I have an xperia zr with not enough volume levels so i want to buy this.

I've had this headset for about 4 months and coupled with @proj.SoNICo audio mod and with the gauzes taken out of the headphones and the little plastic gromit inside,the sound is superb!! On My XZ Rooted UB and running eXistenZ V6 Black Edition!! And @halfbloodmutant..The volume is Awesome!!

Have my (black) SBH20 for three days, it is really quite good, especially for that price.
There is one thing I haven't figured out yet - does the LED color change depending on the charging process? I think, that when it is lower on the battery, it seems to be kinda yellowish and later gets full green, but it may be just me watching it too much

Good price. Maybe I will take one!

kokesh said:
Have my (black) SBH20 for three days, it is really quite good, especially for that price.
There is one thing I haven't figured out yet - does the LED color change depending on the charging process? I think, that when it is lower on the battery, it seems to be kinda yellowish and later gets full green, but it may be just me watching it too much
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i think yes,the colour of the led changes as you said with the charging process,same thing with my headset when the battery is low,yellow at first and then changes to green when fully charged!!

Hello mate!
Just a little question, i guess you've used the Sony-Headset MH-EX300AP, how does it compare Sound and Mic-wise?
Also how long do the batteries last?
This little bugger, seems to be just made for an Motorbike-Intercom System
Its seems to be pretty small so that it could theoretically even fit inside a helmet somewhere where you can reach it in the front, and due to the 3,5mm Jacket you could pair it with those :
Looking forward to your answers :good:

Works with another headset ?
Hi
I was wondering if i plug in my own headset with a built in mic and little remote, will it work ? Did anybody try that ?
I've been looking for 2 days now even called and emailed Sony assistance, nobody can answer...
Thanks

I got my white one yesterday.. sound quality and battery life is awesome..

siddhesh1609 said:
I got my white one yesterday.. sound quality and battery life is awesome..
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The sound quality is average man, but awsome for this price range.

Related

Searching for In-Ear Headphones

Hello People =)
I don´t like the Original Headphones for my lovely Diamond... so now I´m searchin for In - Ear Headphones. Much better sound and much more comfotable, I think.
So, now I´m searching for them
Any Ideas? Expirience?
Greetings to all of you =)
trying for quite some time. Dont see any in the stores. But adapters are there to give a 3.5mm interface. you can find them in amazon or wmstore or just google.
downside is you cant use the FM (atleast in my case)
well u can head over to head-fi.org and read up from all the headphone people there.
Adapters are a quite good idea...
I´ve seen some Bluetooth adapters to. But they are from Sony Erricsson. Ithink i will take a look for them
Sony ones are awesome for me.
First had MDL EX91, then EX71, then moved onto panasonic ones and now back to Sony (one of the newer cheaper models).
All in-ear earphones from Sony seem to sound the same. It's just the design that varies.
If your're into bass, listening to alot of electronic music and stuffs.. go for it.
get an adapter and check out the Sennheiser ones (MX500 etc), superb sound and the noise reduction is actually amazing.
Addicteddddd said:
get an adapter and check out the Sennheiser ones (MX500 etc), superb sound and the noise reduction is actually amazing.
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Google the MM200s (soon to be released) - stereo 'goodness' plus handsfree!!
TShill7
FM-radio won't work with adapter??
If you use an adapter FM works as usual.
Perhaps other poster meant for A2DP headphones.
Using a proper headphone with adapter makes a lot difference compared to the bundled headphones.
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I din't like the HTC Ear Phones, So I made one for myself. and disabled the call button press that was built in to it , and soldered a small pcb with filter which I got from an old walkman (the small box thing) and added a small magnetic filter in it, and now It works flawlessly and sounds richer using a full headset.
you'll need the 3.5mm adaptor thingy...
but in terms of the actualy headphones themselves, it depends on what type of "sound" you're looking for. if you want bass rich ones then look no further than the sony's.
but if you want a clean, flat and authentic reproduction of sound then look no further than the Ultimate Ears super-fi. i use them as a musician and they are frickin awesome
HTC Phones:
- bad sound quality
- not confortable
- long...long...long cable, 1m60!
-it'not really practical to put them in your pocket and spend 30 sec playing with the knots
So here's what I've done with my HTC Phones:
For instance I solved the last two problems.
-open the mic plastic small case the one where is writted HTC
- cut 2 wires: the one that came from the plug, and the one from the longest head phone.
-cut the yellow glue wits a cutter
- take the small circuit out
- with a small solderind iron (20W is more than enough) unsold the cables you have just cutted
- prepare the cables to be soldered
- attention: these cables have a resine so you have to put them in acid (acetone is not enough) or withe a small cutter try to scrath gentli the wires.
- sold the wires back to the small electronic circuit, and mount the mic.
That's it, I have a smaller cable that is realy easy to use and the number of knots when I put it in the pocket is reduced by 4
The best in-ear headphpnes are made by:
Shure
Ultimate Ears
Etymotic Research
Some less expensive but still rather good models are made by:
Jays
Denon
Sennheiser
I would *not* recommend Sony or any other common consumer brand. The threshold of usability starts around $50, and gets a lot better through $100-$150. The upper end units are $200-$500. I have a pair of Denons at about $90 that have good audio, are rugged, and comfortable. However, the quality difference using some of the more expensive Shure's is quite noticable. NOTE! For this style, fit is EVERYTHING. No fit, no bass. Experiment with different earseals.
Have a look at the Sleek Audio adjustable SA6, with the Kleer wireless unit coming up.
I'm with DrewVS on this. I have some Shure e2c's
I use them for both my Ipod and Diamond via the HTC > 3.5mm connector which I picked up offline for about £3 / $5.
The Shure's, with the various isolating earpieces that you can fit to your ear canal perfectly are quite possibly the best around in terms of voice reproduction. The Bass maybe a bit light, but seeing that I'm not a bass head, and like (female) vocals, the e2c's fit the bill perfectly and make the sound from the Diamond using Pocket Player better than my Ipod...
A little expensive... but you pay for what you get. Anything cheaper than these... or the wrong side of some decent Sony's and you're cutting back on the sound quality significantly...
IMO of course...
alcook said:
The Shure's, with the various isolating earpieces that you can fit to your ear canal perfectly are quite possibly the best around in terms of voice reproduction. The Bass maybe a bit light, but seeing that I'm not a bass head, and like (female) vocals, the e2c's fit the bill perfectly and make the sound from the Diamond using Pocket Player better than my Ipod...
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generally ipod sounds bad... look good tho.
i really recommend e2c, they mayb dont fit all ears but if they fit they will stay there not come out cuz a little accidently pull and isolates u from the background noise extremly good. My e2c just broke after 3 years of use... the cable has the tendency of dry out and crack open.
but still they are very good.
I suggest the CX500 - Try this chap:http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/projector_outlet
I have bought off him. Then use the HTC controller thing: http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=166221
These work very well together.
I hope this helps....
Will
Just go to www.dv247.com and check out their range, an idea of quality would be the price bracket:
£1-£30 - Crap
£30-£100 - Reasonable
£100+ - Very Good
If money is not an issue then I would go for the Shure's they are about £160, can't quite remember their model number.
My personal opinion, however, would be to get a proper set of cans, they always produce a better sound and can be made less intrusive with the design of Bose nosie reducing.
If you want real clarity then DT770's all the way! More or less studio standards!
Weisan said:
generally ipod sounds bad... look good tho.
i really recommend e2c, they mayb dont fit all ears but if they fit they will stay there not come out cuz a little accidently pull and isolates u from the background noise extremly good. My e2c just broke after 3 years of use... the cable has the tendency of dry out and crack open.
but still they are very good.
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+1 I had them and sounds very good with HTC devices
Ipod has no bass it's famous !
DrewVS said:
The best in-ear headphpnes are made by:
Shure
Ultimate Ears
Etymotic Research
Some less expensive but still rather good models are made by:
Jays
Denon
Sennheiser
I would *not* recommend Sony or any other common consumer brand. The threshold of usability starts around $50, and gets a lot better through $100-$150. The upper end units are $200-$500. I have a pair of Denons at about $90 that have good audio, are rugged, and comfortable. However, the quality difference using some of the more expensive Shure's is quite noticable. NOTE! For this style, fit is EVERYTHING. No fit, no bass. Experiment with different earseals.
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Just to add WESTONE that used to make the best earphone (editors choice on earphonesolutions.com)
I had sony's earphones then etymotics er6-i then shure e2c, e4c then Westone UM2
for less than 50 dollars go for sony cause there is a gap in the quality compared to orginal htc's
for about 100 dollars go for Shure e2c. It's in my opinion the best you can get for that price
for 300 dollars don't hesitate and go for Westone UM2. I'm in love with it since the first day i put it in my ear......sound is outstanding....huge bass....deep bass......crystal treble........they are 119 dB so you can push the volume far and don't need to put the volume to high on the phone
Hope i helped you

SE LiveView

Looks like something that can be made useful.
http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/liveview
Compatibility states Galaxy S specifically (along with their own phones that eh... can't possibly be called comaptible at the moment, as they don't run Android 2.x which seems to be a requirement for the gadget... )
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It's particularily useful for us who have opted for a phone with a large screen, as we can access stuff without having to dig the phone out of the pocket.
From the press release:
The Sony Ericsson LiveView™ uses Bluetooth™ connectivity to wirelessly pair up to a compatible handset and allows consumers to control the phone without taking it out of their pocket or handbag. Read text messages, see incoming calls and keep up to date with the latest news on Facebook™ and Twitter™.
The Sony Ericsson LiveView™ allows the user to control the Sony Ericsson music [and presumably other players? - mickeko note] features of the handset from the micro display, selecting tracks and controlling volume. The product also serves as a calendar reminder, displaying calendar events and other phone applications.
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It certainly looks interesting, and is the first real innovation I've seen by SE in a long time. My only gripe is that it isn't advertised as Waterproof (and probably isn't).
Pity, as that would have justified it's purchase by me, unless it's RRP is rediculously expensive
Nice device, but it would've been great if it had a 3.5mm headphone jack and a built-in mic, so you can use it as a BT hands free clip as well. , why did they left that part out
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Nice device, but it would've been great if it had a 3.5mm headphone jack and a built-in mic, so you can use it as a BT hands free clip as well. , why did they left that part out
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It has Bluetooth, no need wired accessories. The 3,5 mm jack takes more room and waterproofing that hole?
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It has Bluetooth, no need wired accessories. The 3,5 mm jack takes more room and waterproofing that hole?
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I might invest on something like this if it had BT headset functionality, otherwise its just a gimmick. Whats the point ?? If you are anyway going to have a wired headset then you can always get one with buttons to control calls and music. When you forget about music controlling, there is nothing much left. Read a RSS feed on a 1.3 screen when you have a 4" high res screen on your pocket or read a SMS on this tiny screen first and then take out the phone to reply
on the other hand if it acted as a BT clip it would in fact provide some functionality instead of being just a gimmick. BTW SE doesn't say this is water proof, so why would having a 3.5mm pose any problems ?
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SE doesn't say this is water proof, so why would having a 3.5mm pose any problems ?
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It is not waterproof.
I think that SE seems it primary as a wrist "watch". Do you really like to connect your wrist by wire to your headset? Every time when you swing your hand your headset is rolling around?
I might buy one, if the price is appropriate. I mean below 200 euros, it makes 2000 Swedish crowns.
They might make a S-version where is the 3,5 mm jacket, if the customers like to have that. Make a proposal to them.
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It is not waterproof.
I think that SE seems it primary as a wrist "watch". Do you really like to connect your wrist by wire to your headset? Every time when you swing your hand your headset is rolling around?
I might buy one, if the price is appropriate. I mean below 200 euros, it makes 2000 Swedish crowns.
They might make a S-version where is the 3,5 mm jacket, if the customers like to have that. Make a proposal to them.
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No, definitely not as a wrist watch, maybe clip it to my shirt or something when listening to music.
Are you willing to pay upto 200 euros (275 USD) for something like that . Even an ipod nano 6th Gen doesn't cost that much (150USD ). And you can ware it as a watch too if you really want. For me a retail price of more than $75 doesn't make any sense, but still I wouldn't buy , perhaps if it comes down to like $50, then I would consider , but even then I hardly find any use for it, the time is displayed in very small numbers, and when it goes to sleep you'll have to wake it up by pushing a button to see the time, I don't see calendar or alarm functions, so its not even worth as a watch. Of course one might argue since the phone is in your pocket you don't need to have an alarm on that device, I'm just trying to find ways to justify it's cost, thats all..
no Nexus One compatibility ?
i wonder how long is the battery life on that thing
not being waterproof is already a big no no for me
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no Nexus One compatibility ?
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I would think it will work on stock android 2.x. They might not test it on the nexus, but that doesn't have to mean it will not work.
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Nice device, but it would've been great if it had a 3.5mm headphone jack and a built-in mic, so you can use it as a BT hands free clip as well. , why did they left that part out
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No reason you can pair another buletooth device at the sametime (eg headset)
Someone buy it already and can write a review ?
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Someone buy it already and can write a review ?
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I want one! If they are reasonably priced in Canada / US I will pick one up for sure.
As I recall they are about 59Euro's from Amazon germany. More expensive if from Amazon UK. I tried ordering one but they don't/won't send to AU.
I've bought one of these couple days ago for £50 off superetrader (MoDaCo Edition). I intended to use it mainly as music player control but that function doesn't work on SGS, you can control volume levels only. It's quite nice for checking incoming messages and tweets without taking your mobile out of the packet. Battery lasts about 12 hours but be aware that bt on your sgs is on all the time. Quite dissapointing is that only few apps on the market support it. I think i'm gonna sell it anyway.
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I intended to use it mainly as music player control but that function doesn't work on SGS, you can control volume levels only.
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Thats odd, it should support AVRCP profile (Audio/Video Remote Control Profile), and I have read somewhere that it does. Try with PowerAmp (which is better than the built in one anyways) or some other player. But built in player should work too.
Does this mean those poor souls using SE phones will finally see an update?
Yea this thing is available in France for 59e. As stated above though you can't controle the music yet, just the volume. I'm hoping this will be fixed because that's how i inted to use it, would be great to controle the music without taking the phone out of the pocket.
I thought battery life was better than 12h though...
Only thing i'm wondering about is battery consumption on the SGS itself...
and yea SE X10 are getting upgraded, 2.1 wooooooohoooooooo when 2.3 is comming out. What a shame, we complain about samsung but damn SE used to be top notch, what happened there?
I bought a sony ericsson mbw 100 instead. Battery lasts a week and the drain on bluetooth is about 5% of your battery. A negligible hit for the benefit you receive
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I would have bought it if it had a mike built in as with a headphone without mike you have to use the Phones mike so will have to take it out anyway.
But if this had a mike it really could remove the need to take out the Phone.

[Q] Headset with music control

Hi, I just bought this great phone, and now want to buy headphones with remote control for music and microphone to answer calls ... Juts like the ones the come included with the phone, but with much better sound. Can you recommend some?
Any headphones with remote control, such as the iPhone, would work in the Desire HD with full funcionality? Thank you very much everybody.
Forget that... sorry.
Had a look for some but didn't find. So I'm thinking about making my own by cutting the stock headphone just above the control/mic unit and then attaching to a decent pair of headphones to it. Should be pretty simple I think.
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Any headphones with remote control, such as the iPhone, would work in the Desire HD with full funcionality?
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iPhone headsets may work with limited functionality. The Klipsch s4i mic and answer button works but music controls do not.
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So I'm thinking about making my own by cutting the stock headphone just above the control/mic unit and then attaching to a decent pair of headphones to it.
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Instead of attaching headphones attach a 3.5mm jack.
this is the best works perfect, and has a high definition sound
http://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/dcbint/cpindex.pl?ctn=SHB9000/97&scy=in&slg=en
I personally use the 'jabra bt3030'. Search it on google. The sound quality is awesome and it also is usefull for awnsering calls (great microphone! people don't hear I'm in my car, and my car makes some sound!), but the primary use is for listening to music. I currently have poweramp on my phone and it works with the headset buttons.
The best thing for me is that you can put the phone in your pocket, bag, or leave it on the table and walk away without fear cables getting stuck, or having to stop the music.
What it isn't good for, is navigation. The headset goes in standby when there isn't any sound played. This saves energy but there is a small lag between the headset going on and playing sound. This doesn't happen when listening music or awnsering calls, it stays on. But for navigation, often two words fall away. The battery life is awesome. I sometimes question myself if this thing has a corereactor inside producing it's own energy.
Only negative point is the price. It's more expensive then none bluetooth headsets. But the durability is high and makes up for the price.
I think the Jabra seems the best choice, especially since you can attach your own headphones... The only downside I find is that you must have the bluetooth on all the time, and if the Desire HD battery may suffer because of it. And we all know battery is not one of the strong points in this phone...
Any wired alternative?
Currently I have the Dr. Dre beat Tour mobile headphones. The button works with droidshuffle app. But if the action is more than a single tap of the button, it goes into phone mode. Hoping for someone to fix that. For now I can only use the button as a next track button, but the sound quality is great so i deal with it.
Bluetooth headsets are compatible with almost all phones.
I'd recommend a bluetooth headset but with some tweaks the HTC DHD headset is also great.
You could cut out the earpieces and attach some new ones.
Well looks like cutting and attaching a 3.5mm jack isn't as easy as I thought it would be, I have the sound working but not the controls - I haven't touched anything on that side so I've got no idea why!
Here's what the inside front looks like:
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Here's the back:
On the second pic, the connection on the top is my new wiring.
For anyone else thinking of having a go, apart from the controls not working, you show be aware that the wires are coated in an enamel which makes the connections a little trickier plus the board is held in with some tough insulating glue which will have to be removed before you can take it out (this might be visible on one side of the first pic - yellowish colour).
Looks like I'll have to keep looking for un-ear headphones with music control and Mic unless anyone has any tips.
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Tried to give it a go myself a while ago. I ended up tearing up the wires on the board. The weld spots loosens easily then everything goes to shät.
I like akg headphones. Good quality sound at a reasonable price. At their site they have a model with a remote and mic on it (wired). It only says compatible with iphone.
Does anyone know if they work on other phones, like htc?
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what about klipsch image s4i? anyone came from iphone and tried this? does it work on dhd?
Tried the default iPhone headset and it worked fine. So any other hs that's iPhone compatible should work as well.
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Hey how do you connect a bluetooth headset to the Desire HD? I have trouble
wouldnt it be easier just to swap the speer part of the HTC headset
This is what I did..too bad I didn't have a camera lying around to take a pics when i opened up this.But this way you wont ruin your board soldering. Oh and remember to use a 15W-25W (I use an ANTEX C15) or you'll end up burning the speaker coils and the film.
I use Jabra 3030 for music and when I'm driving.This was just an experiment,got this cheap Panasonic headset for a tenner from HMV and sounds amazing..just like my Jabra
hi kamranh3 what is the model of your bt headset? there should be a pairing button somewhere.(read the manual if you're not sure) usually you gotta press it for 2-5 secs to put it on pairing mode.then tap scan for devices on your DHD and it should see your headset..well probably
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This is what I did..too bad I didn't have a camera lying around to take a pics when i opened up this.But this way you wont ruin your board soldering. Oh and remember to use a 15W-25W (I use an ANTEX C15) or you'll end up burning the speaker coils and the film.
I use Jabra 3030 for music and when I'm driving.This was just an experiment,got this cheap Panasonic headset for a tenner from HMV and sounds amazing..just like my Jabra
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Could you post a quick tut please?
I have a pair of soundmagic pl-30's. Cheap so thet wont be a problem to replace
Anyone who knows if one could disable the auto detection for the headset?
I managed to damage my headset hack and when I plug in a pair of headphones it recognizes it as a headset and starts skipping tracks.
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Sennheiser mm50. Disgned for iphone but works on DHD also.
I have them for 2 years. You can by them on ebay for 18$
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@ Rajnus:
the Sennheiser MM50 has "only" a button for take and end calls or can you skip the tracks and adjust the volume?
I haven't found at the moment a heaset fitting for the DHD which has all this features, so I will solder my own headset, since I modifed my HTC RC C160 to have after the mic and control piece a standard 3,5mm female jack to plug each headset. but this solution locks not perfect, there are than to much cables and I can't adjust the volume.
So I will make a second headset: (the parts should arrive in the next days)
a further HTC RC C160 + Sennheiser CX280 (with integrated small Volume controller. all from Amazon.de for less the 40€
I will again open the mic piece of the c160 and solder the cutted wire from the cx280 (after the volume controller) and have so a (for me) perfect DHD headset. let's see if that work
Anyway, if somebody has a better out of the box solution for a in-ear headset with volume and musicplayer control for the DHD please feel free to share!

Thermal Pics of my Moto X Pure

I had to do a factory reset on my LG G watch to get it to pair correctly with my Moto Pure. Anyhow, I was snapping a couple of pics and thought some of you might like to view...
Awesome pics, love the third one.
HaHa...
I'm getting that ash wood back as well but white front and champagne accent. Glad you posted these! How has the battery life been for you thus far?
Oh yeah the battery man?
Dig the pictures. Looks awesome.
Look, guys, I have ALWAYS come from a background of using EXTENDED batteries for my phones. Damn, the size! My choice was between this Moto Pure and the LG G4 and its removable battery. I opted for this Moto. I love it, but the battery life is ho-humm for me. I've been up since 8 am and it's now 5pm. I have 41 percent battery life left. I have used it a bit, 2h 4mins SOT and I keep it at full brightness, but using adaptive brightness.
I think for most this is fine. With the quick charger it comes with and my various others I recently bought, I'll be fine. It's those times when my family goes to the mtns and such that I wish I had an extended battery, but I'll be happy enough with this.
I will say that the wood back is slick/slippery and what's even more slippery is the metal sides. I am afraid of dropping this thing. But I figured as much when I placed my order and I knew I'd be buying a case for it. So why go with wood only to place it in a cover? Resell down the line. So long as I choose a case that doesn't do more damage to the finish than good. Another thing about the wood is that I have greasy hands/skin/hair and the wood shows this badly. Regardless....
I LOVE THIS PHONE!!!!
One further worry I have is with my sweaty palms (sounds dirty, I know). I'm afraid this will damage the wood in quick fashion if I don't get a case on it. But perhaps this isn't much of a problem as I've never had a wood back in any previous phones. I just know what water does to wood/laminate/etc. Again, I'll be putting a case around this puppy so no worries. Love the phone thus far. It's sexy and sophisticated for sure.
One last gripe for now is that because I have larger hands, I'd love the Moto dimple to be placed toward the top of the phone more by about 3/4" - 1". I don't use it at all in the location it's in, which was never a selling point for me anyway.
Thanks for showing your DAC/amp - headphone setup. Which FiiO is that? Is that a USB OTG cable between the X and the FiiO? How does the X sound with and without the FiiO? Thanks!
Hey, with the E18, does your screen stay on once you've got the DAC on?
I've got a 2014 X and the E18 keeps my screen on until I manually turn it off.
Yes, that's a USB On the Go (Or maybe not USB OTG being that its micro usb to micro?) connection from the Moto Pure to my Fiio E18 Kunlun. The Fiio does not keep the Moto from going into sleep, sleeps just fine. I use Poweramp as a player and I have not done any A/B comparisons with the Moto and my old Note 2. In theory the dac in the Fiio should handle the audio processing so it should sound no different, but perhaps there is something I am not aware of. Point is, things sound great and all is well.
Also as to how does the Fiio sound compared to the regular headphone jack from the moto, well, again I haven't done much A/B comparison. Things always sound better with a decent Dac/amp. My Philips Fidelio X2's are easy to drive so they sound great straight from the Moto, but yeah, the Fiio E18 will always sound better.
I hate that you have to factory reset your watch to pair with a new device. Or even if you factory reset your phone you'll have to factory reset your watch. Major pain to have to set everything up and go through all the tutorials again. Love the photos though. I got the walnut back with the dark grey accents and it's so purty.
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Yeah, I'm using the factory supplied bumper for now as I wait to see what cases there are to offer. Now that I have the phone in hand, I really, really don't want to cover up the wood back. It's gorgeous, but I really need convenience as well and the ability to plop the phone down on a hard surface. Maybe we'll find it's easy to replace the backs. I've taken apart many a phone for various reasons so it shouldn't be too bad. So long as replacement rears don't cost too much. If such was the case, perhaps I would feel more compelled to go naked. Then again, I always look for more protection for the camera lens on my phones...
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Yes, that's a USB On the Go (Or maybe not USB OTG being that its micro usb to micro?) connection from the Moto Pure to my Fiio E18 Kunlun. The Fiio does not keep the Moto from going into sleep, sleeps just fine. I use Poweramp as a player and I have not done any A/B comparisons with the Moto and my old Note 2. In theory the dac in the Fiio should handle the audio processing so it should sound no different, but perhaps there is something I am not aware of. Point is, things sound great and all is well.
Also as to how does the Fiio sound compared to the regular headphone jack from the moto, well, again I haven't done much A/B comparison. Things always sound better with a decent Dac/amp. My Philips Fidelio X2's are easy to drive so they sound great straight from the Moto, but yeah, the Fiio E18 will always sound better.
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Very good to know, looks like it is time for me to start looking into portable DACs, just need to find something that has at least a Wolfson WM8975 or better.
What do you use as your media player?
I just use Poweramp. I guess on some phones back in the day and perhaps still that have USB OTG had issues working with standard players so many used USB Audio Recorder Pro, but my Note 2 never had issues so I used Poweramp and do with my Moto as well. No issues.
Headphone audio quality
Thanks for posting!
i've been looking at the most recent reviews for any information on the audio quality out the headphone jack. I have an O2 amp which i use with my iPhone. What's the headphone audio quality in your opinion?
Again, it sounds pretty good to me, but I haven't done any critical listening since I've had the phone. No A/B comparisons nor any listening sessions past 5 minutes in a not so quiet room with open back headphones.
Straight out of the headphone jack was not bad in the quick listening, but compared to my fiio e18, it's a bit lacking as you would expect. Your amp will help, but I'd venture to guess you'd want to use your audio program's equalizer. YMMV. You may find it perfectly acceptable. Sorry I couldn't help more. I haven't made time to listen to my headphones much.
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Again, it sounds pretty good to me, but I haven't done any critical listening since I've had the phone. No A/B comparisons nor any listening sessions past 5 minutes in a not so quiet room with open back headphones.
Straight out of the headphone jack was not bad in the quick listening, but compared to my fiio e18, it's a bit lacking as you would expect. Your amp will help, but I'd venture to guess you'd want to use your audio program's equalizer. YMMV. You may find it perfectly acceptable. Sorry I couldn't help more. I haven't made time to listen to my headphones much.
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Hey OP, just curious if you have the newer rev. B version of the E18 or the older one.
does yours look like this at the bottom:
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Rev B.
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Rev B.
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Drat, that's probably why.
Just had the chance to connect my rev A. E18 to my new X and it acts funny. Sound through the same connections has a very low gain. And once I unplug the E18 my X's power button stops working, haha.
Thanks for the quick reply.

Share the current headphones you are using and a link to where you purchased them.

I'm currently using the XFL2V-U-MBLACK by V-MODA also known as the Crossfade LP2 Vocal Limited Edition (Over-Ear, Noise-Isolating, Metal Headphones).
They are pretty comfortable and come with 2 cables on with mic and the other with out, Great for listening with the Dac on the V30+
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HYH7HXA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I'm using these are crazy! sound full of details, full-bodied and round bass.
Senzer H2*auricolari, dual-air camera ad alta risoluzione Bass In-Ear cuffie auricolari con microfono per iPhone e Samsung https://www.amazon.it/dp/B07529S1SQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_jxOIBbN995XKK
SoundMAGIC E80 with the standard silicone tips (not the Comply).
https://www.amazon.com/SoundMAGIC-R...=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B0133ACE8O
Sennheiser PXC550.
Mostly on BT connection but also on wired. Amazing sound with the QuadDAC when using cable.
Bought in Norway, so here's the link to Sennheiser official page:
https://en-fi.sennheiser.com/pxc-550-wireless
1MoreTriple Driver - Main IEM with my LG V30
Grado SR 80
Klipsch 11i
Sennheiser HD485's, had for well over a decade and not far off replacing, but crazy comfortable.
Shure SE215's, decent sounding, comfortable, low profile so you can wear them while lying on your side, easy to listen to, and really good noise attenuation for noisy environments. Brought in New Zealand so link would be useless.
KZ AS-10 - Cheap Chinese balanced armature IEMS. I own about 8 different sets of KZs and these are the best so far, well balanced and incredibly detailed headphones, without the sibilance and harsh treble of KZs other models. Purchased from Aliexpress: https://bit.ly/2Qd2hHo
KZ ZS6 - Much deeper bass response than the AS-10s, but harsh treble for music like rock or metal, I use these for electronic music. Purchased from aliexpress, same as above.
The SE215s were my go to when out of the house, with the HD485s the rest of the time, but the AS10s have taken over for most uses now.
i am using sony ex150 ap bought from Amazon
1MORE Quad Driver
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XSJV5B9/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Great Sound !
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I never thought I say this but... I'm rockin beats studio 3, but I don't use them wireless because I prefer wired the hifi system of the phone works awesome... Don't have a link because I bought them from 2nd hand for a really good price
KZ ZS10 4+1 hybrid it's a little tricky to drive on my S7, Volume is not quite high even when maxxed out, on V30 it's much better fuller bass and 60% volume is already loud.
KZ had overpowered treble sibilance since the zs5 series which can get tiring if I pair it with V30, but they fixed it in this edition. Bought mine from AliExpress but i guess you can buy it on amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/KZ-ZS10-Reso...s&ie=UTF8&qid=1537157840&sr=1-1&keywords=zs10
Rose gold V moda crossfade 2 wireless.
Had them imported as they weren't available in the UK at the time
https://v-moda.com/products/crossfade2-wireless
Pioneer SE-CH9T, bought in a local music store. I bought it to replace a pair of Shure SE215s that just developed a broken cable for the second time (the original Shure replacement cable that I bought lasted about 2 years, while the cable that originally came with the headphones lasted for more than 4). They are about the same price as the SE215s (slightly less than 100€), but they sound so much better! They're louder, clearer and have more bass. I'm really loving them.
You should be able to get them just about everywhere (Amazon should have them all around the world).
Seahf AWK-F150C that were recommended on a head fi thread
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32810061828.html?spm=a2g0n.orderlist-amp.item.32810061828
Shipping was much quicker than I expected, a week or 2. They sound good to me, about 50 percent volume is loud enough for me.
I got the 150 ohm version because they are cheap and wasn't sure how well the V30 would drive high impedance, low efficiency phones. Next time I'll get the 320 ohm version for $75cad.
Flc8s
I bought them for their modibility. I was torn, I didn't want to buy a pair of "expensive" iems only to not like them. I figured I might be able to tune them to what I think at least sounds acceptable for the amount of money I paid. They do actually sound great. I haven't had buyers remorse at all. Plus, my nerdiness allows me to tinker with them, which I like.
I'm using Vinic Hearable http://en.vinci.im/1.5/
Amazon https://www.amazon.com/VINCI-Vinci-Hearable-Classic-White/dp/B072JZGB5W
I have the Audio Technica M50X ... it can handle any setting Viper4audio produced ... just amazing... with thundering bass you can feel the cups vibrate in and out of your ears . In Australia it is about $200 at JB Hifi or music specialist store.
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Seahf AWK-F150C that were recommended on a head fi thread
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32810061828.html?spm=a2g0n.orderlist-amp.item.32810061828
Shipping was much quicker than I expected, a week or 2. They sound good to me, about 50 percent volume is loud enough for me.
I got the 150 ohm version because they are cheap and wasn't sure how well the V30 would drive high impedance, low efficiency phones. Next time I'll get the 320 ohm version for $75cad.
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150 ohm, that's high.
Why are you getting the 320 ohm version?
What do you expect to be better?
I would like to replace my Sennheiser cx-500i with ones that will activate the DAC
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150 ohm, that's high.
Why are you getting the 320 ohm version?
What do you expect to be better?
I would like to replace my Sennheiser cx-500i with ones that will activate the DAC
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These headphones activate the quad dac and the phone easily drives them past what I can listen to.
I don't know exactly what happens with higher Ohm headphones, I think there is an improvement in bass. I won't get them soon, I have 2 sets of earbuds and a pair of Fidelio X2. I'm good for awhile.
Edit to add: here's an article on the difference between high and low impedance. https://www.cnet.com/news/headphone...d-to-know-about-low-vs-high-impedance-models/
Sennheiser HD1 (Pink Floyd edition) here.
Murbert said:
These headphones activate the quad dac and the phone easily drives them past what I can listen to.
I don't know exactly what happens with higher Ohm headphones, I think there is an improvement in bass. I won't get them soon, I have 2 sets of earbuds and a pair of Fidelio X2. I'm good for awhile.
Edit to add: here's an article on the difference between high and low impedance. https://www.cnet.com/news/headphone...d-to-know-about-low-vs-high-impedance-models/
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Thanks for the link. I think its a case of the more I find out the less I know (cue for a song)
Interesting stuff though.
I didn't know that you could actually buy a pair of headphones for $55000 (sennheiser orpheus ) possibly OTT even for the V30+...
Let us know how (if?) the 320 ohm ones sound.
EDIT: According to this they might not work properly
https://forums.androidcentral.com/lg-v30/873274-best-headphones-v30.html

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