Other than the glaring camera distortion issue, how is this phone? - Sony Xperia XZ Premium Questions & Answers

I've been reading up on the camera distortion issue and I'm quite disappointed in Sony's attitude towards it but despite that, the device seems great and I ended up ordering one off eBay (the dual SIM model).
What's everyone's views on this phone knowing the camera has issues? Does it make you want to return your phone or are you keeping it?
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At first I really thought of returning it because the distortion issue, but it is pretty minor for me at least (compared to what other people have, the distortion in my phone isn't that bad). But forgetting this thing, I really like the phone. 6 weeks with it already, and it's performing damn good. The battery life is very good (7 hours SOT usually, and with my usage I only charge it once every two days), the performance is unbeatable, with a bit of tweaks the camera can shine, nothing bad to say about the build quality at all, and the most important thing for me, the sound output, is incredible. Also the display is very colorful, you can see no pixel on it, and the dark levels are very good for a non-amoled display. Didn't had any problems with wifi droppings in this weeks, and the LTE speed and stability is perfect. As cons I would say the lack of wireless charging and the bezels could have been smaller. But those issues are in no way more relevant than the pros. I am happy with my phone and I would recommend it.

Artyomska said:
At first I really thought of returning it because the distortion issue, but it is pretty minor for me at least (compared to what other people have, the distortion in my phone isn't that bad). But forgetting this thing, I really like the phone. 6 weeks with it already, and it's performing damn good. The battery life is very good (7 hours SOT usually, and with my usage I only charge it once every two days), the performance is unbeatable, with a bit of tweaks the camera can shine, nothing bad to say about the build quality at all, and the most important thing for me, the sound output, is incredible. Also the display is very colorful, you can see no pixel on it, and the dark levels are very good for a non-amoled display. Didn't had any problems with wifi droppings in this weeks, and the LTE speed and stability is perfect. As cons I would say the lack of wireless charging and the bezels could have been smaller. But those issues are in no way more relevant than the pros. I am happy with my phone and I would recommend it.
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KnightStar said:
I've been reading up on the camera distortion issue and I'm quite disappointed in Sony's attitude towards it but despite that, the device seems great and I ended up ordering one off eBay (the dual SIM model).
What's everyone's views on this phone knowing the camera has issues? Does it make you want to return your phone or are you keeping it?
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That's pretty much exactly what my thoughts on this phone are.
I highly recommend this phone. I just upgraded from an Xperia Z5 which was my very first Xperia phone, the second being my XZ Premium. I've had for almost exactly 2 weeks and I'm REALLY impressed by this thing.
I listen to music a lot on my phone using Bluetooth headphones, and the sound quality is phenomenal. The equalizer really kicks ass, it's way better than pretty much all of the equalizer apps I've tried. All of the equalizer apps I've used tend to lower the actual output volume way too much. With Sony's EQ enabled, your actual output volume won't be any lower than having the EQ disabled.
The overall performance is absolutely amazing. Responsiveness remains instantaneous no matter what I'm doing on the phone, or what's running in the background etc. It just WILL NOT SLOW DOWN!
The camera distortion is really a non issue to me. I believe it's just a software issue anyway. I take photos all the time on it and never noticed it until I saw it on this forum, then went and replicated it for myself. It's really no big deal at all for me personally.
Build quality is REALLY nice. This is a premium feeling phone to me. Only downside is that this phone will slide on any surface way too easily. If you have it on a perfectly flat smooth surface that has even a SLIGHT angle, this phone will slide down it. That does annoy me a bit, but I'll be getting a case for this phone anyway which will fix it. But I would 100% have still bought this phone even if I knew beforehand, it doesn't detract from actually using it.
Battery life is very good. If I charge it overnight from say 10-11pm and take it off charge at around 5-6am, I'll listen to about 45 mins to an hour of music or YouTube in the morning, browse in Chrome, reading and sending emails and also using SMS / Hangouts / FB messenger periodically throughout the day. After another hour of music or YouTube come around 5pm, it's sitting at around 65-70% battery. All of this is with BT left turned on, connected to WiFi most of the day, mobile data always on, location always on, brightness around 50%.
I'd easily recommend this phone. Bloody fantastic.

laes443 said:
That's pretty much exactly what my thoughts on this phone are.
I highly recommend this phone. I just upgraded from an Xperia Z5 which was my very first Xperia phone, the second being my XZ Premium. I've had for almost exactly 2 weeks and I'm REALLY impressed by this thing.
I listen to music a lot on my phone using Bluetooth headphones, and the sound quality is phenomenal. The equalizer really kicks ass, it's way better than pretty much all of the equalizer apps I've tried. All of the equalizer apps I've used tend to lower the actual output volume way too much. With Sony's EQ enabled, your actual output volume won't be any lower than having the EQ disabled.
The overall performance is absolutely amazing. Responsiveness remains instantaneous no matter what I'm doing on the phone, or what's running in the background etc. It just WILL NOT SLOW DOWN!
The camera distortion is really a non issue to me. I believe it's just a software issue anyway. I take photos all the time on it and never noticed it until I saw it on this forum, then went and replicated it for myself. It's really no big deal at all for me personally.
Build quality is REALLY nice. This is a premium feeling phone to me. Only downside is that this phone will slide on any surface way too easily. If you have it on a perfectly flat smooth surface that has even a SLIGHT angle, this phone will slide down it. That does annoy me a bit, but I'll be getting a case for this phone anyway which will fix it. But I would 100% have still bought this phone even if I knew beforehand, it doesn't detract from actually using it.
Battery life is very good. If I charge it overnight from say 10-11pm and take it off charge at around 5-6am, I'll listen to about 45 mins to an hour of music or YouTube in the morning, browse in Chrome, reading and sending emails and also using SMS / Hangouts / FB messenger periodically throughout the day. After another hour of music or YouTube come around 5pm, it's sitting at around 65-70% battery. All of this is with BT left turned on, connected to WiFi most of the day, mobile data always on, location always on, brightness around 50%.
I'd easily recommend this phone. Bloody fantastic.
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Agree 100%. I think the camera issue is phone dependant... meaning that mine does not appear to be as bad as some. Still hope that for those who are having issues that Sony comes out with a fix.

I agree with all the sentiment posted here. It really is a great device, and I'd definitely recommend it. I am hopeful that we'll have a safe DRM unlock / root solution at some point, but as stock Androids go, this beats most.

I barely notice the camera issue. All my photos so far have turned out fine but they are mainly of people and landscapes. I have had the phone 2 weeks now and honestly couldn't be happier, I use it as both my personal and professional device. I usually get a good day from a charge with a good 6.5-7 hours of SOT a day with multiple emails sent, a few calls and a few apps constantly running. I actually like the smart charge feature too, I only charge my phone during sleep hours so there is no inconvenience for me about charge time. I do miss there being no cap avarice buttons but only because my previous phone (Note 4) had them and I did like the full screen being an actual screen! For what I use this phone for it excels at but we all use ours differently. What usage are you wanting for your ideal device??

Artyomska said:
At first I really thought of returning it because the distortion issue, but it is pretty minor for me at least (compared to what other people have, the distortion in my phone isn't that bad). But forgetting this thing, I really like the phone. 6 weeks with it already, and it's performing damn good. The battery life is very good (7 hours SOT usually, and with my usage I only charge it once every two days), the performance is unbeatable, with a bit of tweaks the camera can shine, nothing bad to say about the build quality at all, and the most important thing for me, the sound output, is incredible. Also the display is very colorful, you can see no pixel on it, and the dark levels are very good for a non-amoled display. Didn't had any problems with wifi droppings in this weeks, and the LTE speed and stability is perfect. As cons I would say the lack of wireless charging and the bezels could have been smaller. But those issues are in no way more relevant than the pros. I am happy with my phone and I would recommend it.
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Hi, could you tell me the tweaks fpr the camera please

I have been using this phone for about 2 months now and here's my Honest review.
The Android OREO fixed many things. the camera in OREO includes an option "correction for image distortion" so the only issue of this phone "camera distortion" is gone. there is also DRM fix available for this phone now. performance-wise many people said that the phone lags on some games but thats a totally different story. Asphalt 8 and all other gameloft games have stutter issues. the games that doesnt work smooth are probably due to optimization issues. this phone can run GTA SA on fully max graphics. antutu score is 180,000 which is awesome. the LPDDR4X ram is fast enough to hold and process all data without any drop in performance. we all know that the 4k display is running in 1080p and only enables 4k in apps that support it (like youtube and sony album).
there are a lot of good things about this phone. some people said that the speakers are very quite but they are forgetting the fact that both speakers are facing towards the user so in a noisy environment too the sound can be heard by the user easily and is nothing to worry about. the 3D Creator app is fun to play with. the camera can be even better if you know how to use it in manual mode so that depends on preferences of the user. as for the charging speed, it is quite brilliant actually. for example if you need some battery urgently then a 15 min charge would give you 30-35% battery and you will be good to go for about 6+ hours (SOT would be less, depending on usage). as for me, i ordered the spigen carbon painted case for this phone and now the phone looks even better. better grip better handling. the phone just amazes in almost every aspect. i have used s8, op5 and iphone 8 but there is something special about XZ premium. it just is perfect in every aspect that you can think of.
The 3230mah battery seems small for 5.46' 4K display but its running 1080p that too on 10nm battery efficient chipset makes up for it.
PS: im not a fanboy or anything like that im reviewing what i experienced. there are goods and bads about every phone and according to that logic this phone has too many goods and very very rare bads which arent even noticeable.
Regards.
-Saad khalid.

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Tell me hows your battery life after root.

My phone has been charging awfully slow on the A/C Adapter. And it drain that battery on 3 hours. I'm still looking at what could've caused this.
Very good thus far. First charge was a little slow which I chalked up to conditioning.
Check Google Talk make sure you are not signed in. Open it, menu then settings and remove auto sign in. Then menu and sign out.
Make sure 4g isn't on
Make sure gps isn't on
Make sure bluetooth isn't on
Same with wifi unless you are using them. They are easy enough to turn on and off as needed.
Screen brightness to auto
Check facebook, twitter, weather etc.. refresh settings.
Check mail settings if not using IMAP. POP3 searching every 5 or 15 minutes in low signal areas can be a huge drain.
I also removed all the bloat crapware that I didn't want on anymore. I also used a program called "Startup Manager" to prevent all the other crap from loading all the time on reboot and randomly throughout the day.
The epic gets a little less signal than my EVO did. Although the EVO had 3 or 4 radio upgrades to get it where it is now but for now it is a little less which will use a little more power until we get a few updates.
I'm getting excellent life thus far.
Aridon said:
Very good thus far. First charge was a little slow which I chalked up to conditioning.
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When I got my phone, surprisingly it was almost drained. So I plugged it for about 3 hours and it completely charged. Now I put it on the AC Adapter and it was around 20% and when I look at the time 4 hours had passed by and still wasn't 100%. I would say it took 4 hours and 20 minutes. And I looked at the Battery used and it said 73% Display. The rest were like 5 things with 3 or 5%.
Thank You!
Yes.. Yes..! Please Do so tell..
I will make this short and sweet. I am arguing with my fiancee cause I just showed her two videos the Epic's camera and how they looks amazing. I saw a few videos taken today on the tube and this was to much to handle. I have an Evo and I compared and yes the Evo has more density due to the extra 3MP but the capture and sharpness of the Epic is amazing. The extra LED is great, a little brighter on Pictures. Not Much! The screen is a tad bit bigger, but horrid in the light, but who's outside like 24? Eh, I need everyone to convince me in.. So I have questions!
Dlna.. How has video Playback been?
Battery Life?
Smoothness, ADW Launcher Pro, Come on guys you know the drill..! I wanna know all the above!
Help another androidian get the Epic!
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Yes.. Yes..! Please Do so tell..
I will make this short and sweet. I am arguing with my fiancee cause I just showed her two videos the Epic's camera and how they looks amazing. I saw a few videos taken today on the tube and this was to much to handle. I have an Evo and I compared and yes the Evo has more density due to the extra 3MP but the capture and sharpness of the Epic is amazing. The extra LED is great, a little brighter on Pictures. Not Much! The screen is a tad bit bigger, but horrid in the light, but who's outside like 24? Eh, I need everyone to convince me in.. So I have questions!
Dlna.. How has video Playback been?
Battery Life?
Smoothness, ADW Launcher Pro, Come on guys you know the drill..!
Help another androidian get the Epic!
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I haven't messed with DLNA yet. Looks like you can stream from the PC and other media devices fairly easily with "All Share" but I haven't had a chance to mess with it. Basic codec support is still significantly better than the EVO. No need for rock player. Although the music player is different than the Touchwiz 3.0 devices which should be updated with Froyo.
My battery life has been equal to my Evo. Maybe a little better.
There is no comparison with smoothness or in Camera / video taking quality. The Epic beats the EVO hands down and this was the big reason my evo is on Ebay right now. Hands down the Epic wins.
Keyboard is very nice. Swype is also nice (had it on my evo as well).
Screen is much better and brighter. It seem to be easier to clean as well for whatever reason.
The downsides?
Nothing major that I can see. Developer support should be good since the Galaxy S has been released on every carrier. Porting to the Epic should be trivial once the keyboard files are isolated.
Regardless, the EVO needs to be rooted to even be a decent phone. The Epic far less so. I've removed some of the crap ware and stopped some of the auto starting apps and that is about it. Thus far the Epic has been very good. It does have a fair bit of crap preinstalled but its easy to remove.
I do find the Epic's screen, while better than the Evo, does seem a bit high in contrast. Its still much better in all regards IMO but I do notice it. We might be able to adjust this at some point.
The side power button is something to get used to, not a huge deal but odd.
Having the micro usb port up top is a mixed thing as well. Its a little farther from the power source if you are on the device talking to if your cord is short it could be an issue. Otherwise its easier to hold IMO without the cord and such getting in the way when resting in your hand while surfing.
I think JuiceDefender is killing my battery.. :S I used it Yesterday without Root and old apps and I could swear the phone lasted the whole day.
Aridon said:
I haven't messed with DLNA yet. Looks like you can stream from the PC and other media devices fairly easily with "All Share" but I haven't had a chance to mess with it. Basic codec support is still significantly better than the EVO. No need for rock player. Although the music player is different than the Touchwiz 3.0 devices which should be updated with Froyo.
My battery life has been equal to my Evo. Maybe a little better.
There is no comparison with smoothness or in Camera / video taking quality. The Epic beats the EVO hands down and this was the big reason my evo is on Ebay right now. Hands down the Epic wins.
Keyboard is very nice. Swype is also nice (had it on my evo as well).
Screen is much better and brighter. It seem to be easier to clean as well for whatever reason.
The downsides?
Nothing major that I can see. Developer support should be good since the Galaxy S has been released on every carrier. Porting to the Epic should be trivial once the keyboard files are isolated.
Regardless, the EVO needs to be rooted to even be a decent phone. The Epic far less so. I've removed some of the crap ware and stopped some of the auto starting apps and that is about it. Thus far the Epic has been very good. It does have a fair bit of crap preinstalled but its easy to remove.
I do find the Epic's screen, while better than the Evo, does seem a bit high in contrast. Its still much better in all regards IMO but I do notice it. We might be able to adjust this at some point.
The side power button is something to get used to, not a huge deal but odd.
Having the micro usb port up top is a mixed thing as well. Its a little farther from the power source if you are on the device talking to if your cord is short it could be an issue. Otherwise its easier to hold IMO without the cord and such getting in the way when resting in your hand while surfing.
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That's perfect, I still need to hear if it gives errors in the DLNA playback. From TV 2 PS3 whichever anyone can confirm. I know the Evo has codec issues when playing video from it. Just wanted to be sure this was not an issue in it there.
Otherwise the camera quality yes is amazing on the epic. I dint get it the Evo is 8mp, err? Anyways I am happy, I am going to exchange my Evo from what it looks like. I guess I have to get used to not having sense anymore. Thats about it.
More would be great if anyone cares to share to a fellow Evo pondered mind?
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Well. I'm gonna find a way to remove root. Since I am 100% sure its draining my battery and fast. It's either that or Juice Defender (Plotter) I took it out of the charger at 5 am, left it on my bed and when I checked on it 55 minutes later it was 94%.
Battery life is exactly the same, all we did was root there are no ROMs to install which could impact battery in a positive or negative way so far. Again all we did was gain super user permissions root does not impact battery life whatsoever.
My battery life appears to drain slower now that I've rooted, that probably is because I have SetCPU underclocking my phone to 200mhz when the screen is off so it won't waste battery. Also if you are draining quickly you can look in Settings> About Phone> Battery Usage as to what is using the most battery. A good chance if you have f.e. Live Wallpapers on or something is that they will drain your battery. Also depending on what you have enabled for email syncing, etc. that may play a role. I keep my phone signed into Google Talk + Google Sync + TouchDown Exchange syncing all day and seem to have no issue at all. (I was at 60% after a full day's use yesterday, and that included some foray into the world of 4G in the area.
khalaan said:
My battery life appears to drain slower now that I've rooted, that probably is because I have SetCPU underclocking my phone to 200mhz when the screen is off so it won't waste battery. Also if you are draining quickly you can look in Settings> About Phone> Battery Usage as to what is using the most battery. A good chance if you have f.e. Live Wallpapers on or something is that they will drain your battery. Also depending on what you have enabled for email syncing, etc. that may play a role. I keep my phone signed into Google Talk + Google Sync + TouchDown Exchange syncing all day and seem to have no issue at all. (I was at 60% after a full day's use yesterday, and that included some foray into the world of 4G in the area.
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All of those settings are off. Email, Facebook, No LWP, no SetCPU. I really think its juice defender the culprit here. Cause it all happened when I restored my apps using Titanium Backup.
When you restored did you restore the apps plus data or the apps by themselves? When you add the data in that can lead to problems because the data was for another phone.
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lv2bll said:
When you restored did you restore the apps plus data or the apps by themselves? When you add the data in that can lead to problems because the data was for another phone.
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There isn't a backup in Titanium Backup of only apps. You can restore Apps with Data only.
Slow battery charging via USB after rooting? unplug the USB, go to settings and disable USB debugging. Plug the cable back in and select "Charging" from the pop-up.
problem solved.
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i to have noticed significant drain after the one click root process... i have had my phone running for maby 4 hours off a full and with it in my pocket it can go dead.... doesnt happen all the time and i must say as well that the charging is extremely slow for me as well... hopefully there is a fix for this soon.. might have to do a restore and see if that helps.
been off the charger for for 12 hours and 12 minutes and I am at 41 percent
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been off the charger for for 12 hours and 12 minutes and I am at 41 percent
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Ok i think i figured out the problem, i rerooted with the newest version and already noticed a difference since the splash screen is back again... to the op try to reroot with the updates from today
Fixter said:
There isn't a backup in Titanium Backup of only apps. You can restore Apps with Data only.
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Ummm... Yes you can. Open up Titanium Back up, press Menu -> Batch -> (Choose your restore function), then tap the radio button next to "App Only" instead of "App+Data". You can even just restore the data instead of the app!

Disappointed with arc, now thinking about Nexus S

Hey Nexus S forum! hope everyone's enjoying I used to have an iPhone 4 and now after much thinking between the arc and nexus S went for the arc. It is not a bad phone, but I am not satisfied because of the following:
- Battery life sucks, as in with light-moderate usage. For a perspective (since I suck horribly at figuring out how to take a screenshot off the arc), I made an hour long call (59:34 mins to be exact), played around on FPSe for 12 mins, had music playing for around 48 mins, and rest idle with background data off, 3g and wifi off and at low signal areas even airplane mode on.
I get around 16 hrs with just this much usage. I am a heavy user with streaming/music and IM but the battery life drops like a rock once I try any of the two things simultaneously. And it is quite a tease having to keep brightness at minimum all the time.
- Headphones, good headphones, but I cannot use my 3rd party JVC ones which I could with the iPhone. What's the deal? It seems true you need only sony headphones for it...
- Performance: too many browser and ebuddy force closures Especially with setcpu on conservative.
Since its a branded arc I cannot tweak it except for apps. Now I am thinking I should have chosen a Nexus S since it is available on Rogers and the screen looks better to me. Camera I haven't checked but from forum pics thread it looks comparable to the iPhone 4 which is a plus anyway.
I am not going back to the iPhone 4 after experiencing android, but I need a better battery life and if not stock then at least the availability to tweak it using a kernel that will take care of it.
So any of you Nexus S users having that great battery life many forum reviews mention? What about after kernel tweaks. I am thinking of keeping the NS untill fall when the SGS2 will be available on Rogers. I am also a bit of a tweaker and the arc while being "sexy" is not modifiable much.
Thanks!!
from my experience, i dont think nexus s battery life will be any longer than arc. anyway it depends very much on the apps that you installed...
my NS battery life is ard 18-20hrs avg, with moderate usage like
-brightness auto
-backgrd sync ( turned off for fb, twitter)
-15 mins of Modern Combat 2
-90mins of Music
-20min of Web browsing
-15 min of Fb-ing
-The rest of the time are left idling...
all these values are approximate values...
hope it helps
Note: do check up Manage Applications -> Running to see what apps are running, used to install tap tap revenge and realised from there it sucked lotsa battery juice.
phonex1 said:
Hey Nexus S forum! hope everyone's enjoying I used to have an iPhone 4 and now after much thinking between the arc and nexus S went for the arc. It is not a bad phone, but I am not satisfied because of the following:
- Battery life sucks, as in with light-moderate usage. For a perspective (since I suck horribly at figuring out how to take a screenshot off the arc), I made an hour long call (59:34 mins to be exact), played around on FPSe for 12 mins, had music playing for around 48 mins, and rest idle with background data off, 3g and wifi off and at low signal areas even airplane mode on.
I get around 16 hrs with just this much usage. I am a heavy user with streaming/music and IM but the battery life drops like a rock once I try any of the two things simultaneously. And it is quite a tease having to keep brightness at minimum all the time.
- Headphones, good headphones, but I cannot use my 3rd party JVC ones which I could with the iPhone. What's the deal? It seems true you need only sony headphones for it...
- Performance: too many browser and ebuddy force closures Especially with setcpu on conservative.
Since its a branded arc I cannot tweak it except for apps. Now I am thinking I should have chosen a Nexus S since it is available on Rogers and the screen looks better to me. Camera I haven't checked but from forum pics thread it looks comparable to the iPhone 4 which is a plus anyway.
I am not going back to the iPhone 4 after experiencing android, but I need a better battery life and if not stock then at least the availability to tweak it using a kernel that will take care of it.
So any of you Nexus S users having that great battery life many forum reviews mention? What about after kernel tweaks. I am thinking of keeping the NS untill fall when the SGS2 will be available on Rogers. I am also a bit of a tweaker and the arc while being "sexy" is not modifiable much.
Thanks!!
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Well I must confess I am not surprised but still its shocking that you decided to go with ARC over Nexus S. Its anyone's personal preference.
My Two Cents...
NS Battery life for me runs anywhere between 12 hours to 30 hours depending how much I use it. If I play games on it, few phone calls and background sync on all time, with screen auto brightness, news reading for abour 30 mins in morning, 3G or WiFI on, BT on, when I leave for work in morning at 8, battery is fully charged, by 8 pm, if i did all mentioned above, I would generally be at 25%.
With no games all day, I still can squeeze an entire night and would probably not charge till I reach work next morning. That means around 24 hours of usage.
Comparing NS with ARC, NS has a better screen, less MP camera, but 8.1 MP doesn't really mean anything to me as one of my buddy has it and I hate it.
I have used iPhone/HTC/Motorola Headphones with my NS and they all work.
So far I have never experienced a single force close problem with my NS.
ARC still doesn't have any dev support, but NS, man, you can unlock the bootloader and do whatever you want to do with your phone. Root it, tweak it, custom ROM it(Here is the link to all the available ROM summary http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1067813)...
Phone is really light in weight, I love the Contour Display/Curvy screen, I wouldn't be sold for the Sony Bravia Engine display.
Its capable of playing almost all the games available in market as of today, I haven't seen any performance Lag.
I think you would be better off getting a NS over ARC. Again, its just my My Two Cents...
Good Luck!!!
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Hey deplate07, are you running it stock or modded? Because I had a captivate with a week with firefly rom and it matched my iphone's battery life with heavy usage. I still regret selling it at times. If ns can do same after modding than sure, I will happily switch because what use is bravia engine and 3g when both are constantly off to save battery and I still get just 16 hrs
Also considering the atrix
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Nexus S for the win! You can just use UV kernel to save your battery life
Although I'd recommend the S based on my own experience, I would caution you not to expect miracles in battery life vis a vis the Arc. I would haver rated the 16 hours you're getting as pretty good. Coming from the iPhone to Android you do have to be a bit more proactive in managing battery life -- dimming the display and shortening the display timeout, turning off unused radios, etc.
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gun26 said:
Although I'd recommend the S based on my own experience, I would caution you not to expect miracles in battery life vis a vis the Arc. I would haver rated the 16 hours you're getting as pretty good. Coming from the iPhone to Android you do have to be a bit more proactive in managing battery life -- dimming the display and shortening the display timeout, turning off unused radios, etc.
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Problem is on the arc I am not even doing much. My brightness is at minimujm at all times. Backlight is off. Bravia engine is off. 3G is on probably 5 mins. for a day only. Wifi is rarely on. Music playback just 30 mins. And only 5-10 mins calls.
This is madness. I probably should have not complained and researched before hand but if people are saying they are getting 16 hours with 50% brightness, syncing at regular intervals, calls and decent music playback I would happily take the 16 hours.
At least the NS can be modded. I think i'll be switching in a couple days with this or a captivate and see how it turns out.
phonex1 said:
Hey deplate07, are you running it stock or modded? Because I had a captivate with a week with firefly rom and it matched my iphone's battery life with heavy usage. I still regret selling it at times. If ns can do same after modding than sure, I will happily switch because what use is bravia engine and 3g when both are constantly off to save battery and I still get just 16 hrs
Also considering the atrix
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Yeap, I'm running stock ROM... I think up to date nexus s and nexus one is the most optimized and up to date android phone.
By the way I don't turn off 3G, and one thing I'm sure is that nexus s is pretty easy on battery when idling ...
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[REVIEW] My new SamChg vs. my old CM7 Droid

I am upgrading from an original MotoDroid. While that phone has served me very well for the last 18 months, it died a week ago, and had to be replaced. Time for an upgrade!!!
My MotoDroid was running CM7 Nightlies, so I'll be comparing to that.
Style:
While this is a matter of personal taste, I think the SamChg has sleeker lines, and the glass blends nicely with the buttons at the bottom. The MotoDroid was way more solid with more metal, though.
But, no more lip from the MotoDroid.
Winner: SamChg
Hardware:
MotoDroid Quadrant score: ~400. SamChg Quadrant Score: ~1500. Plus, the SamChg has 4G. I got 7 Mb/sec of real, sustained downloading (!!!), not just a benchmark speed. Even the SamChg 3G speeds measured about twice as fast as the MotoDroid.
Winner: Are you kidding? SamChg, by a long shot.
Battery Life:
I regularly have my email checked throughout the day. I have the same settings on both phones. I also have both phones set to 3G only.
The MotoDroid would be at around 70% battery after a moderate day's use. If I never used the MotoDroid during the day, it would be at 90% after 24 hours. The SamChg on the other hand, is at 70% battery after 6 hours of no use (left alone overnight). If I use the phone much at all, my SamChg battery life is in the 40's before my work day is through. I absolutely have to have a charger with me at all times, and now keep the SamChg plugged into my laptop at work.
Winner: MotoDroid
Desktop UI Speed:
The MotoDroid was significantly faster than when I first took it out of the box. I was running a 800 Mhz kernel with CM7's Gingerbread-based kernel. I also was running ADW Launcher EX, which significantly improved the desktop speed and appearance. Live Wallpapers were not an option, unless I wanted to live with a sluggish desktop experience.
Out of the box, the SamChg was a bit chunky with the desktop UI. Small delays occurred while using it. I also did NOT like the TouchWiz UI. So, I installed ADW Launcher EX, which improved the speed a little and usability a lot. Then, an hour or two after opening my SamChg, I installed the rooted Voodoo kernel and Lagfix. Everything runs silky smooth now, even with Live Wallpapers. Even better without LWP, of course. Very, very nice.
Winner: SamChg, hands down.
Functionalty:
This isn't a fair comparison. I'm using modified ROMs on both, and CM7 is a great Gingerbread-based ROM with a lot of added features.
There isn't much that the SamChg offers functionally over the CM7 MotoDroid, so I'll just list some of the hardware and software features that I really miss on my SamChg:
Stay "On" when connected to power.
Bluetooth Wireless tethering to our Honeycomb tablet.
Notification LED
Charging LED
Real Keyboard (But, I don't miss it too much)
Real Camera button (But, I don't miss it too much)
Not a big fan of the puzzle pieces in the TouchWiz UI. Maybe I'll get used to it.
One item in the SamChg plus column (for me) is the physical Menu/Home/Back/Search buttons at the bottom of the screen. I have had lots of times where I pressed the virtual buttons on the MotoDroid, and I wasn't sure they registered. At least now, I'll know that I pressed the button (even if the SamChg doesn't respond)
Winner: MotoDroid
Screen:
Not much to say here. The MotoDroid has Gorilla Glass, and it appears that the SamChg does, too (based on other postings). The SamChg has an absolutely beautiful screen with vivid colors, and it's larger than my MotoDroid's.
Winner: SamChg.
Camera:
Honestly, who cares? They both suck, and wouldn't even be sellable as low-end cameras. Totally worthless hyped-up megapixel ratings are listed for phone cameras with dusty gunked-up plastic lenses and no real focus or low-light capabilities. If you want to take quality pictures that you really care about, get a digital SLR. If you want to take pictures you don't care about, either one of these is fine. The MotoDroid has a physical camera button. The SamChg does not.
Winner: None.
Modability:
The MotoDroid has been hacked a lot longer, with a better set of ROMs and tools available. The SamChg is new in the game. The SamChg is not bootloader locked, though, which was a big part of my buying decision.
Winner: MotoDroid, for now. Hopefully, both will be winners as time goes on.
Overall winner: SamChg, with a few caveats.
Here are my main concerns:
1) The SamChg was a really, really nice upgrade. I would have loved to get a dual-core 4G phone, but with the poor battery life I'm seeing now, I'd be afraid that the dual core would only make things worse. My biggest complaint is that the SamChg won't make it through the day without recharging, even if I have 4G turned off. This problem may be fixed over time, as leaner ROMs are introduced. Hopefully so, or I probably have an early upgrade in my future. If the battery could easily make it through the day without recharging, the SamChg would have been the hands-down winner, and probably the best phone on the market.
2) The face proximity sensor is WAY too sensitive. The sensor is to the right of the earpiece. When in a call and using the dialpad, if I get a finger too close to the sensor (approx. 1 inch away), the screen blanks out and the dialpad is unusable until I move my fingers away. This has happened quite a few times now. Retraining myself should fix this over time, but maybe Samsung needs to adjust the sensitivity to really fix this issue.
3) Acquiring a 4G signal is kind of dicey, even in a strong signal area. Most times, I go into the phone settings and modify the Mobile Network System Selection to reacquire. An annoyance, but it should be fixable in software.
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Battery Life:
I regularly have my email checked throughout the day. I have the same settings on both phones. I also have both phones set to 3G only.
The MotoDroid would be at around 70% battery after a moderate day's use. If I never used the MotoDroid during the day, it would be at 90% after 24 hours. The SamChg on the other hand, is at 70% battery after 6 hours of no use (left alone overnight). If I use the phone much at all, my SamChg battery life is in the 40's before my work day is through. I absolutely have to have a charger with me at all times, and now keep the SamChg plugged into my laptop at work.
Winner: MotoDroid
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You obviously have something set to update way to much fro your charge to be down to 70% after no use. I managed 36 hours before recharge and that included phone calls and email. More than ever with my DX
1) The SamChg was a really, really nice upgrade. I would have loved to get a dual-core 4G phone, but with the poor battery life I'm seeing now, I'd be afraid that the dual core would only make things worse. My biggest complaint is that the SamChg won't make it through the day without recharging, even if I have 4G turned off. This problem may be fixed over time, as leaner ROMs are introduced. Hopefully so, or I probably have an early upgrade in my future. If the battery could easily make it through the day without recharging, the SamChg would have been the hands-down winner, and probably the best phone on the market.
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Again, you need to manage something better. Either your screen brightness/timeout or stuff updating in the background or GPS.
2) The face proximity sensor is WAY too sensitive. The sensor is to the right of the earpiece. When in a call and using the dialpad, if I get a finger too close to the sensor (approx. 1 inch away), the screen blanks out and the dialpad is unusable until I move my fingers away. This has happened quite a few times now. Retraining myself should fix this over time, but maybe Samsung needs to adjust the sensitivity to really fix this issue.
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Never had this problem.
Nice review! Thorough, I like it.
However, I am also concerned about your battery loss. I lose maybe less than 10% over 8 hours while I'm sleeping.
With all the goodies (bluetooth, 4G, full brightness, etc.) on I am losing about 10%/hour with moderate-heavy use. I am also syncing 3 gmail accounts, facebook/twitter every hour, and WordFeud push notifications.
My only issue with the Samsung is that the radio is nowhere near as sensitive as the Motorola. I have both the Original Droid and Droid 2 Global and they're both substantially better. The loss of signal really has an impact on 3G speeds. I may end up returning the Charge and waiting for either the Droid 3 or Bionic.
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You obviously have something set to update way to much fro your charge to be down to 70% after no use. I managed 36 hours before recharge and that included phone calls and email. More than ever with my DX
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Hi, ShotgunSam - I made two changes last night that seemed to have made a huge difference in my battery life:
I loaded the Debloated ED2 v4 ROM, and
I removed K-9 Mail, and switched to the TouchWiz Email app.
I'm not sure if one made more difference than the other (or, if one made no difference at all). But, K-9 Mail polled my email every 10 minutes for one account, and 30 minutes for another account. TW Email uses the Verizon mail server to "push" email (which, I think occurs every 10 minutes or so).
Not sure how much the Debloated ED2 v4 impacted things.
I'll have a better idea after a day of work tomorrow on how the SamChg battery life is. Looks very promising, tho!
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Never had this problem.
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I know that I'm not the only one with the dialpad blanking problem. At least one other user mentioned that they are seeing the same thing in another posting.
I may have to return my SamChg later this week if this is a defect.
craigg1 said:
My only issue with the Samsung is that the radio is nowhere near as sensitive as the Motorola. I have both the Original Droid and Droid 2 Global and they're both substantially better. The loss of signal really has an impact on 3G speeds. I may end up returning the Charge and waiting for either the Droid 3 or Bionic.
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craigg1 - I haven't seen a significant signal decrease on my SamChg. In the building I work at, I used to see about 2-3 bars of 3G goodness at my desk on my MotoDroid. When USB tethering, I would get around 500-600 kb/sec download rates.
On my SamChg, I can't get a good 4G signal reliably, but I get about 2-3 bars for 3G pretty regularly. My USB tethering download rates for 3G are pretty consistently around 1.5 kB/sec, tho - so I assume I'm getting a better signal for those bars (or better hardware on the SamChg).
4G at my home, though, pegs the meter! I could probably turn off the WiFi to my SamChg now.
As for the puzzle piece lockscreen, if you're on a deodexed rom nitsuj posted an aosp one. Been using that since it was posted.
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As for the puzzle piece lockscreen, if you're on a deodexed rom nitsuj posted an aosp one. Been using that since it was posted.
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boostedjti - I'm running the Debloated ROM now, which also seems to have removed the puzzle-piece stuff.
FWIW, I didn't mind the puzzle lockscreeen itself. But, after using simpler Android versions of the phone answering screen, the TW puzzle phone answer screen was annoying to me.

Is Mate 9 battery actually rubbish? Honest thoughts please

Hi guys,
Background: I use my phone I'd say medium use. Clash of clans, videos and photos browsing, emails, whatsapp. But i hate to put anything off so 4G location bluetooth everything always on. My note 4 has been amazing with its removable battery allowing me to use a phone in this way amd has revolutionised the enjoyment i get out of it. No more switching on and off bluetooth or gps. No worries in the world. Now i need a new one with a big screen and decent enough cam and the only option with removable battery is the LG V20 which to be fair looks a decent phone. However I also see the Mate 9 and whilst it doesn't have removeable battery it has a sensible screen res and a 4000mah battery meaning it should last a full day no worries. And I prefer the faster Kirin 960 and the bokeh camera setup.
The issue: i was on the verge of ordering it when I came across techzillas 1 month review where basically trashes the battery. Yes he's a heavy user but he's comparing it to other phones which do better with his same use.
I don't understand. Is it his firmware? Has the issue been sorted? Is the battery not that great afterall? Id be buying from wondamobile so id be getting whatever international rom they use. Shall I just play it safe and get the lesser V20 if I'm going to keep all things on?
For me it seams​ that with the b156 firmware the battery is not as good as before. But still excellent I use my phone a lot and most of the time I manage a full day with out charging. I get around 8 hours screen time. I never play games on my phone but use it mostly for productivity and browsing. Occasionally I watch some movies , YouTube and listen to tidal.
Most of the time I use very low brightness as I prefer this for reading.
stefanve said:
For me it seams​ that with the b156 firmware the battery is not as good as before. But still excellent I use my phone a lot and most of the time I manage a full day with out charging. I get around 8 hours screen time. I never play games on my phone but use it mostly for productivity and browsing. Occasionally I watch some movies , YouTube and listen to tidal.
Most of the time I use very low brightness as I prefer this for reading.
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Ah.. I'm new to this of concept of SOT. I don't know how it works. I can't imagine anyone sitting there staring at their phone literally for 8 hours! I work in the day and use it every now and then there, then when home when the wife isn't having a spazz at me for daring to go on the phone I use it now and then for using Kodi remote and youtube etc... I don't know how much screen on time that'd equate to.
Do you keep all things like bluetooth and GPS and 4G on or do you have to be careful with it like with all my old phones in order to get a full day? With my Note 4 as I say a breath of fresh air that I could keep everything on and just change battery once I got home.
Everything is on, during the day I mostly use 4G. The reason I get between 6 and 8 hours is because I have to do a lot of emailing and maintaining appointments etc for my work and blackberry hub is so good in emailing (mush better than the outlook my company uses) I use my phone for that instead of my laptop. Also I do lots of reading both work an pleasure related.
If i have slow days I can manage two days on one charge easily. In short the mate 9 has an excellent battery. I'm never thinking about the battery as I did with my old phones it seems to be even better than my old BlackBerry Passport
It's the best battery life of any phone I have used. Mine is on 4g all day with GPS and bluetooth always on.
My previous best phone was the Note 4 that I had to charge every night. I only have to charge the Mate 9 on alternate nights however hard I use it.
I have other issues with the Mate 9, but the battery is certainly not one of them.
stefanve said:
Everything is on, during the day I mostly use 4G. The reason I get between 6 and 8 hours is because I have to do a lot of emailing and maintaining appointments etc for my work and blackberry hub is so good in emailing (mush better than the outlook my company uses) I use my phone for that instead of my laptop. Also I do lots of reading both work an pleasure related.
If i have slow days I can manage two days on one charge easily. In short the mate 9 has an excellent battery. I'm never thinking about the battery as I did with my old phones it seems to be even better than my old BlackBerry Passport
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Wow ok that's surprising. No idea what this techzilla dude is on about then on youtube. He seems quite an honest and credible chap so I wonder if it's firmware related or perhaps he got a dud.
RR-99 said:
It's the best battery life of any phone I have used. Mine is on 4g all day with GPS and bluetooth always on.
My previous best phone was the Note 4 that I had to charge every night. I only have to charge the Mate 9 on alternate nights however hard I use it.
I have other issues with the Mate 9, but the battery is certainly not one of them.
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As above, I'm surprised it's this good after the techzilla trashign of the battery on youtube. You wouldn't know yur firmware would you?
What are your issues with it? I hear low light cam performance isn't excellent but it isn't great with my Note 4 either and I can't imagine it's ever satisfactory with the size of lens you can get on any phone. I'm looking to use the Bokeh effect for nice pics of my daughter, is this bit at least working well?
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It certainly seems from what you guys are saying that this beast will live from morning to evening without even needing a charge for my sort of use even with everything on. Sounds really awesome and might have swung be back into getting this over the V20 again.
applehater00 said:
Wow ok that's surprising. No idea what this techzilla dude is on about then on youtube. He seems quite an honest and credible chap so I wonder if it's firmware related or perhaps he got a dud.
As above, I'm surprised it's this good after the techzilla trashign of the battery on youtube. You wouldn't know yur firmware would you?
What are your issues with it? I hear low light cam performance isn't excellent but it isn't great with my Note 4 either and I can't imagine it's ever satisfactory with the size of lens you can get on any phone. I'm looking to use the Bokeh effect for nice pics of my daughter, is this bit at least working well?
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It certainly seems from what you guys are saying that this beast will live from morning to evening without even needing a charge for my sort of use even with everything on. Sounds really awesome and might have swung be back into getting this over the V20 again.
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I'm on L29C432B156. I haven't noticed any loss of battery life after two upgrades.
I think I have to most recent one. All I can think of maybe the guy plays allot of games or has some rogue app on his phone eating all the battery life. In any case most reviews are positive about the battery so if one dude that dislikes it does sound like an isolated incident.
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I'm on L29C432B156. I haven't noticed any loss of battery life after two upgrades.
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Ah, like Stefan. He notices some but not much and it still sounds great. Thanks :good:
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I think I have to most recent one. All I can think of maybe the guy plays allot of games or has some rogue app on his phone eating all the battery life. In any case most reviews are positive about the battery so if one dude that dislikes it does sound like an isolated incident.
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Yeah the more I look into it the more I think this is the case.
He seems like a nice decent likable chap who I'm assuming doesn't have a bias either way. But according to his "heavy use", when people say they're getting much better battery than his alleged figures he defines in his comments his heavy use as:
" i stream music from Spotify, watch YouTube, i have 5 email accounts syncing constantly, i get around 1000 emails an hour, 7 to 800 Telegram msgs an hour, fb,twitter, instagram, fb msg, /google Plus, snapchat, youtube studio, surfing the web, a couple of hrs phone calls, text messages, XDA, 500 Whats App msgs per Hour. This is how i test batterty life, and for me the Mate 9 can't deliver more than 6hrs SOT"
All I can say to that is WOW! Who on earth links five emails, gets 1000 emails AN HOUR, 100s of telegrams whatever they are, 500whatsapp messages PER HOUR (I mean that's one every 7.2 seconds!!!!). with loads of other stuff running and TWO HOURS of calls etc etc.. If doing all that with everything on he's getting 6 hours SOT then I can say I'm mightily impressed with it! Even heavy users wouldn't be be using it that much I'm sure. And if he can honestly say he gets the same SOT with iphones and samsungs with more powerful screens and smaller batteries all I can say is at worst I frankly don't believe it, at best he's got a dud Mate 9 or more likely all the aforementioned phones are awesome and we have nothign to worry about as 6 hrs SOT with a whatsapp message every 7.2seconds and an email every 3.6seconds plus all the other **** running is very respectable.
Personal experience over the Note 5. this thing kills battery life expectancies.
The Note 5 with:
BT ON Connected to huawei watch
GPS off
No Autosync
All apps killed
No calls
15 texts per day max
Packages disabled
1-2 hours of screen use tops
I Got maximum 13 hours. I get up every day at 8am and by 7-745 its nearly dead doing next to nothing. Android will not sleep and samsung refuses to accept its their software. My Mate 9, buds Moto Z play both on tmobile never have issues. he gets 8-9 hours screen time i get 8-9 hours screen time charge once every 2-3 days.
My Settings are EXACTLY the same with the exception of:
BT off when not using my Sony M1000x headphones.
300+ textsPer day.
No calls
Checking FB via Metal for FB
Email in Gmail 5-6 times a day
Camaro Forums via chrome browser
Instagram
Spotify + many more apps
And i never have issues. Granted i exchanged it because the B156/157 idk which one ruined battery. i have a B138 fw now and it works flawlessly. Its pathetic samsunbg phones barely make it through the day even when NOT used. Im dropping samsung and sprint very soon.
@applehater00
If your main consideration is battery life I do not think you will be disappointed.
But for what it is worth I will tell you the points I do not like about the Mate 9.
The vibration is very weak.
The notification light is tiny and almost invisible except in the dark.
The GPS is poor and no good for sports use.
There are various problems with notifications and some email apps don't work properly.
All these problems are discussed in this forum.
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@applehater00
If your main consideration is battery life I do not think you will be disappointed.
But for what it is worth I will tell you the points I do not like about the Mate 9.
The vibration is very weak.
The notification light is tiny and almost invisible except in the dark.
The GPS is poor and no good for sports use.
There are various problems with notifications and some email apps don't work properly.
All these problems are discussed in this forum.
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Oh.
The GPS worries me - I use GPS a lot for visiting clients, is it not accurate or good enough?
And will the normal gmail app work ok?
leo72793 said:
Personal experience over the Note 5. this thing kills battery life expectancies.
The Note 5 with:
BT ON Connected to huawei watch
GPS off
No Autosync
All apps killed
No calls
15 texts per day max
Packages disabled
1-2 hours of screen use tops
I Got maximum 13 hours. I get up every day at 8am and by 7-745 its nearly dead doing next to nothing. Android will not sleep and samsung refuses to accept its their software. My Mate 9, buds Moto Z play both on tmobile never have issues. he gets 8-9 hours screen time i get 8-9 hours screen time charge once every 2-3 days.
My Settings are EXACTLY the same with the exception of:
BT off when not using my Sony M1000x headphones.
300+ textsPer day.
No calls
Checking FB via Metal for FB
Email in Gmail 5-6 times a day
Camaro Forums via chrome browser
Instagram
Spotify + many more apps
And i never have issues. Granted i exchanged it because the B156/157 idk which one ruined battery. i have a B138 fw now and it works flawlessly. Its pathetic samsunbg phones barely make it through the day even when NOT used. Im dropping samsung and sprint very soon.
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Ok thanks
Strange though because people are saying the B156 one is fine. Opposite to your experience.
Maybe the battery just goes crazy and dies at some point?
applehater00 said:
Hi guys,
Background: I use my phone I'd say medium use. Clash of clans, videos and photos browsing, emails, whatsapp. But i hate to put anything off so 4G location bluetooth everything always on. My note 4 has been amazing with its removable battery allowing me to use a phone in this way amd has revolutionised the enjoyment i get out of it. No more switching on and off bluetooth or gps. No worries in the world. Now i need a new one with a big screen and decent enough cam and the only option with removable battery is the LG V20 which to be fair looks a decent phone. However I also see the Mate 9 and whilst it doesn't have removeable battery it has a sensible screen res and a 4000mah battery meaning it should last a full day no worries. And I prefer the faster Kirin 960 and the bokeh camera setup.
The issue: i was on the verge of ordering it when I came across techzillas 1 month review where basically trashes the battery. Yes he's a heavy user but he's comparing it to other phones which do better with his same use.
I don't understand. Is it his firmware? Has the issue been sorted? Is the battery not that great afterall? Id be buying from wondamobile so id be getting whatever international rom they use. Shall I just play it safe and get the lesser V20 if I'm going to keep all things on?
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whatever the reason is i bet every user have diff usage n diff type of apps running in their phone,but all i can say this phone can last me from 7.30 til 11.30pm with everything on(except for BT n NFC) and most of the time i m on 4g,i can get 6-7 hours of SOT with whatsapp,email,telegram heavy chrome browsing,youtubing,xda-ing,some gaming(coc,skyforce).and when i wanted to go tl bed at 11.30 it still have 20% left
applehater00 said:
Oh.
The GPS worries me - I use GPS a lot for visiting clients, is it not accurate or good enough?
And will the normal gmail app work ok?
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The GPS is fine for ordinary driving use, and it gets a fix very quickly. But there are some serious issues that Huawei aren't mending.
Read through this thread for details. https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-9/help/gps-problems-stats-reports-t3508213
Sorry I can't help you with gmail as I don't use it on this phone.
Right now I have 89% left, 10 hours active, 33 mins SOT. I think I got 7h SOT yesterday and still 50% left.
Compared to my Note 4 which barely lasts 12 hours, and that's idle time.
RR-99 said:
The GPS is fine for ordinary driving use, and it gets a fix very quickly. But there are some serious issues that Huawei aren't mending.
Read through this thread for details. https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-9/help/gps-problems-stats-reports-t3508213
Sorry I can't help you with gmail as I don't use it on this phone.
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Ah i see thanks.
Thats disappointing. I may wish ti get back into cycling and if it cant track my ride accurately it sounds like a dud. How ridiculous! Just as i was about to buy one another problem pops up.
I wonder if huawei just aren't ready for making phones...!
It's a shame, yes. There are of course many good things about the Mate 9. They just let it down on a few things.
my mate 9 gets 9-10 hours of heavy use - granted i have some mods and tweaks

Shall I buy this?

I'm looking for used phone and Pixel 3 seems to tick all the boxes.
I did check the Wikipedia page though, and there's a fairly disturbingly big list of various issues. Is this still relevant these days?
If you mean these issues (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixel_3#Issues), I have not encountered any of them. I have a Pixel 3, not the XL version. I have had it for a couple of years, and have been very satisfied with it.
Alright. What about the battery life I keep seeing brough up a lot? I used to have Xperia XZ2 Compact, which has pretty much the same capacity and almost identical display resolution, and I had no problems at all. Not playing games and not watching Youtube either, ever.
I go two days between charges, but I am not a heavy user. No games, nor videos, and not a lot of screen time. I use this app to limit the charge to 80%. https://github.com/sriharshaarangi/BatteryChargeLimit
That is supposed to extend the overall life of the battery. It is usually down to 45% - 50% after two days. I could probably go four days between charges, but draining it too low also reduces battery life.
it's been about 2 years now with my p3 and still I'm not willing to ditch it, it's a great phone. only downside is battery, if only it was bigger.. it would be still the best phone lol, nowadays all phones are just too big... with low usage i can get through the whole day on a single charge though
After a very few months with the phone, I have to say it's pure ****.
The batterybarely lasts one day despite not playing games or watching Youtube.
The phone also randomly restarts and gets stuck in millions of reboot loops.
The camera is ok, but not so awesome everyone says. Maybe if they put real glass over the sensor, I don't know.
WalrusInAnus said:
After a very few months with the phone, I have to say it's pure ****.
The batterybarely lasts one day despite not playing games or watching Youtube.
The phone also randomly restarts and gets stuck in millions of reboot loops.
The camera is ok, but not so awesome everyone says. Maybe if they put real glass over the sensor, I don't know.
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Wow, certainly not my experience. After the first couple of updates, I've not had a single issue. I did have an overheating issue the other day using hotspot. For my use, battery lasts for a day, but requires nightly charging.
Agree, my camera definition is "good enough" still not a DSLR replacement.

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