Database Info

Steps To Twenty Hour Battery Life

Ok I have been reading since literally the first day the G2x came out about the "Horrible" battery life of the phone. So, after toying with it for about 8 days I have nailed it down so that the phone gets about 20 hours of Moderate use(Constant texting, internet for emails, YouTube, and searches, and probably about 2 hours of light gaming(not Nova or NFS)). So, Outside of the obvious like make sure your bluetooth, wifi, and GPS are off and turn your display brightness down here are my steps to Better Battery Life.
First - Root The Phone. There is plenty of links and help if you don't know how or have questions about rooting.
Second -(Root Needed) Use Titanium Backup or Antek App Manager(Antek is free) and Freeze or uninstall all the bloatware that you don't use off of your phone. Especially Car Home cause along with people on XDA i have also noticed that it does use a fair amount of battery for NO Reason.(Be careful with My T-mobile and My Device might throw your phone into a force close frenzy)
--For some reason people have been asking exactly what T-Mobile Apps you can freeze/uninstall and the answer is. All of Them. I personally left My T-Mobile(To view Minute Usage) and Wifi Calling(Cause I have no service in some buildings) and froze the rest, but you can get rid of everything you don't want or use.
Third -(Root Needed) Set CPU. Have had this on my G1 and N1 and it does nothing but save battery. I currently have it set on 216 - 1000 for when the screen is on and the only profile i have is for when the screen is off and it is at 216-216.
(Alternative) Pimp My CPU. I now am using this for my G2x because I am running custom kernal. Personally I like Set CPU better, but do to the fact that Set CPU can't get past 1000 MHz makes it kinda useless for the G2x Tegra 2.
Fourth -(Root Needed) Battery Calibration. There is an App in the Market for this and it is easier and less of a hassle than Factory Reseting the phone. Just charge all the way to 100% and i discharged to 0% and recharged it and Amazing difference in battery life. (And don't doubt the Calibrator cause right after i set it to calibrate the initial 100% got to zero in about 7 hours, but after that one cycle i was getting the 20 hours i am now)
Fifth - Elixir. Not only does this app display anything you might wanna see about your phone (CPU usage, battery temp, battery percentage, memory...) it also has a widget that lets you toggle your internet on/off. Which is almost necessary since "4G" kills battery like no other.
Sixth - Auto Sync. I shouldn't have to put this, but if you don't know your phone is set up to auto sync all your Google apps(Calendar, Gmail, Contacts) and Social Network apps(Facebook,Twitter). So go into settings and make sure that you turn auto sync off.
Now the next steps aren't proven to give extra life, but i did them just in case and well I get 20 hours of use like i said before.
Sixth - Watchdog. This app monitors all the other apps and processes in your phone and will alert you if a rogue app is draining your better life.
Seventh - I did the "Alternate Battery Fix". This involves changing one setting and who knows maybe it does help me get extra juice.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1051036
Eighth - Wifi Never sleep. Supposedly according to some if you change wifi to Never Sleep it will stop some loop in the programing which in turn will save battery.
Ninth - Wifi Calling. If you didn't decide to freeze/uninstall this app. Make sure that this is OFF, because whenever you have wifi on it will constantly flip between Wifi Calling and normal radio towers, which once again is bad for your battery life.
Well, Thats that and if y'all can think of anything that i missed or have any questions or ideas let me know! And remember this is a Dual-Core, High-End, Monster Phone and duh if you use it hardcore (Movies, HD Games, tons of web browsing) the battery will die fairly quick.
P.S. Will post a Screen Shot of Uptime for 20 hours later(if it doesn't Re-boot before i get to 20)
Update #1: Have read all the posts and have decided to speak up about a couple things.
Task Killers - I feel like these are brought up in every thread ever created about batteries, and well they are useless. So, if you are gonna bring up the ram usage argument. Android is made to kill programs that are either inactive for to long or the operating system will shut down background tasks if a new app needs the cpu power. Than for those who say that it helps close programs and makes the battery last longer.Having a Task Killer that basically re-closes the same apps over and over again(These are usually bloatware background apps that for some reason never stop running) is not gonna do anything except waste precious battery life on running the task killer itself cause the app will just restart. Your best bet is to run watchdog find the apps that are taking to much battery and freeze/uninstall them.
Managing Apps - Apps like Tasker, Juice Defender, and the like are in my opinion not battery savers at all. They are just tools to implement what i have already previously stated, but that doesn't mean that they aren't useful. They are good if you have a busy schedule and have to constantly turn the internet on and off or switch between certain settings, but they are not actually a cause of better battery just a tool to implement what you could do on your own.

I've done most of those things over the course of the last week and I just got a little over 24 hours on my last charge.
Those tips are legit.

Thanks! I was kinda worried about it cause it was my first post!

spencersir2 said:
Thanks! I was kinda worried about it cause it was my first post!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
good job man i love it most def legit

squidbutt said:
good job man i love it most def legit
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks! haha but if anyone has anything to add let me know I would like this thread to hopefully kill all those other ones away cause I am tired of them cluttering the forum when I am actually looking for something!

Great job! I've been getting about 20hrs of battery life using some of these... now I have more tricks to add =-)

Good job! I'm almost done withall the tweaks and have say it helping. Thanks
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA Premium App

Great tips. I was doing most of those, but have added the calibration software as well as watchdog. I have also found Juice Defender to be a big help.
Thanks again.

this is still not acceptable for a phone in 2011 to still have that kind of battery, most people out there aren't really concerned about tweaking their phones or dont even know about it. Im not gonna use setCPU or anything else, i expect things just to work flawlessly out of the box.

Tasker can be a friend in this whole deal too.
If you can automate your radios & screen brightness to exactly what you need when you need it you can save significant battery life.

If your WiFi calling app can't stay on wifi, you need to fix your wifi network and not your phone.
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA App

With all of these changes having a toggle for haptic feedback I assume would help a ton...considering its a touchscreen and a retardedly fast phone. Otherwise it vibrates on every damn user input. Just curious what others think about this. Anyways, thanks for this post....the forum is getting congested.

hanged_man said:
this is still not acceptable for a phone in 2011 to still have that kind of battery, most people out there aren't really concerned about tweaking their phones or dont even know about it. Im not gonna use setCPU or anything else, i expect things just to work flawlessly out of the box.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, but on the flip side your an early adopter for technology that literally JUST CAME OUT and so there is no perfected system for it. I mean the version of android we are running right now doesn't even truly support dual-core! So yes this is the price we pay, and if dual core had been out for two years I would completely agree but it hasn't. This is what android has always been built on a semi flawed system but top of the line technology and thanks to the great community we have we can push the limit of every device out there even the g1.
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA App

I meant this for people like myself who live in an area ( or college like me) where you are constantly moving in and out of wifi range and that would take a drain on your battery.
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA App

Wotornot said:
With all of these changes having a toggle for haptic feedback I assume would help a ton...considering its a touchscreen and a retardedly fast phone. Otherwise it vibrates on every damn user input. Just curious what others think about this. Anyways, thanks for this post....the forum is getting congested.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think the reason we have so much haptic feedback though is because we are lacking physical buttons and the small vibration gives us the sense of a solid keyboard even though as you stated everything is a touch screen. Well that is my 2 cents anyway.
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA App

Marcus Ryan said:
Tasker can be a friend in this whole deal too.
If you can automate your radios & screen brightness to exactly what you need when you need it you can save significant battery life.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I will definitely look into tasker and check it out personally and add it to the list later! Thanks!
Update: I have seen programs or apps like this before many moons ago i used a program called wisyncplus and basically it is just profiles. This I guess could be used to increase battery life, but in my opinion apps like this and Juice Defender and what not are simply 1) too much of a hassle - cause you have to usually set up each profile individually 2)This is more of a convenience - It doesn't actually increase battery life it is just a manager almost like a widget.
Than back to your argument about the screen brightness my auto-adjust does just fine depending on the lighting and honestly in less your watching a movie, playing video games, or doing intense web browsing your more than likely not even gonna have your screen on that long. (and to those of you that say the Auto-Adjust doesn't work remember that this is an LCD screen it is lit from behind so it is gonna seem brighter unlike the Nexus S which is lit in the screen making it viewable with less brightness)
Than for automating radios honestly there is already widgets for that. The stock rom comes with a Wifi on/off widget so no complaints there, and elixir(which is a free and very useful app) comes with a apn off/on widget which is really all you need cause in my experience unless my internet is on I see no difference in battery life being GSM preferred over WCDMA preferred.
So in less you really do have a tight schedule, or just don't wanna mess with changing settings manually(and with widgets), Yes, Tasker is perfect cause it basically does everything for you.(even though i am pretty sure there are free apps exactly like Tasker)
(Sorry if this came off kinda rude I don't mean to flame at all just trying to say all of my opinion and back it up as best i can)
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA App

hanged_man said:
this is still not acceptable for a phone in 2011 to still have that kind of battery, most people out there aren't really concerned about tweaking their phones or dont even know about it. Im not gonna use setCPU or anything else, i expect things just to work flawlessly out of the box.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
if this is the case, i don't think that an open-source phone is for you. the beauty of android is that anyone can personalize it and tinker with it.
the g2x is sort of like a muscle car- it has lots of [dual core]power, but the trade off is trying to manage battery life.

spencersir2 said:
I think the reason we have so much haptic feedback though is because we are lacking physical buttons and the small vibration gives us the sense of a solid keyboard even though as you stated everything is a touch screen. Well that is my 2 cents anyway.
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
For the sake of min/maxing battery drain I would think toggling the vibrate after every input would help. I actually like the keyboard without it pulsing all the damn time. And my hearing might be a little sensitive to where I dislike the fart sounding vibrate motor. Haha.

jayohwhy said:
if this is the case, i don't think that an open-source phone is for you. the beauty of android is that anyone can personalize it and tinker with it.
the g2x is sort of like a muscle car- it has lots of [dual core]power, but the trade off is trying to manage battery life.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Couldn't have said it better myself. This is exactly why I am a huge android supporter/early adopter, a car fanatic, and a Mechanical Engineering major. Because I love the individuality of it all and to be able to own something that can be unique to me.

Wotornot said:
With all of these changes having a toggle for haptic feedback I assume would help a ton...considering its a touchscreen and a retardedly fast phone. Otherwise it vibrates on every damn user input. Just curious what others think about this. Anyways, thanks for this post....the forum is getting congested.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I dont think turning off haptic feedback will really make to much of a difference in terms of battery use.
Our phones are dual core phones, in every test run dual core phones have less of a battery draw because two cpus is better then one. When dealing with a multicore phone/computer the device can have more power without using more energy because there is less stress on the cores. The old way was a bigger battery drainer then this because 1 core would have to use more energy to produce equal amount of power that a 2 core setup would. As spencer said and we have all been saying its more of a software issue then a hardware issue. Imagine loading a computer with 24gbs of memory and have an core i7-Xtream chipset and using windows 7 32bit its pretty much a waste. I believe a lot of the issues that everyone is experiencing will be fixed by a software update or the dev team when roms of the gingerbread nature come out.
Spencer nice post btw!

Battery life after 12 days

I know there is a bunch of threads about this but I am considering about a replacement at this point.
My battery is draining pretty fast doing same task as with my Galaxy S 4G. Web, few games, texts, few calls.
My battery life is around 5-9 hours and gotta recharge twice a day at this point. I though it would get better with time, had the phone since launch day.
What are your experiences?
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA App

Any advise?
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA App

moshe22 said:
Any advise?
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I get 12-16+ hours heavy use
I'm in a 3g only area so I'm guessing people that live in a 4g network see worse battery drain.... I'd honestly stop all synching and do a full charge with battery wipe
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA Premium App

Any one with same experiences?
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA App

I already tried with about 3-4 factory reset, deleting battery stats with battery calibrator and clock work mod.
Still horrible
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA App

nate420 said:
I get 12-16+ hours heavy use
I'm in a 3g only area so I'm guessing people that live in a 4g network see worse battery drain.... I'd honestly stop all synching and do a full charge with battery wipe
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA Premium App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't think 3G/4G makes a difference on battery usage. It's HSPA vs HSPS+, both are 3G, just one is a bit faster. It's not like Verizon where you have 3G and LTE 4G, and one sucks up more juice than the other.

lol yeah, it's pretty funny how all T-Mobile has to do is put a "4G" icon in your notification bar and people think the phone is running on a different network. The only thing that's different than, say, a N1, is that the G2x has a higher top end. Wireless companies have really effed everyone in the head with this 3G/4G BS.

mapin0518 said:
I don't think 3G/4G makes a difference on battery usage. It's HSPA vs HSPS+, both are 3G, just one is a bit faster. It's not like Verizon where you have 3G and LTE 4G, and one sucks up more juice than the other.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i just guessed
but this device is know for having driver issues/mega bloatware running unless frozen or removed
and its a android phone... its not going to have a lot of battery left after powering all the bull spit that is running on it/screen/tethering/gps/mms & texting let alone all the other stuff people do with this phone....
talk to tmobile maybe you can get a new battery sent after saying yours is bogusly sucking.....
other than that wait for the drivers to be fixed.... a stable rom like BIONIX that krylon is baking in the oven and a UV/OC kernel MorFic is putting in the steamer as well....
its been less than 20 days this phone obviously has some issue's since LAUNCH
but to just give up like some people are doing and going to the HTC crapsation with 3.0 sense and a locked (not encrypted thank god) bootloader that will most likely have some issues as well is just flat out idiotic....
(i dont mean people dumping the phone are stupid... just expecting too much out of a 2 week old phone)

moshe22 said:
I know there is a bunch of threads about this but I am considering about a replacement at this point.
My battery is draining pretty fast doing same task as with my Galaxy S 4G. Web, few games, texts, few calls.
My battery life is around 5-9 hours and gotta recharge twice a day at this point. I though it would get better with time, had the phone since launch day.
What are your experiences?
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
all battery's like that....(hd2, nexus s, nexus one, g2x)

My battery goes from full to 99% in about 6 hours when I sleep and wake up. The phone is not turned off btw. I am now using "Juice Defender Ultimate". Paid $3 and change when you get the free version and upgrade it from that free app (otherwise I think it is around $6). I have it at the "extreme" profile which shuts all wifi and data. I disable it and then turn on either wifi or data when I need to use it (Use Switchpro to toggle on and off easily from my home screen). I also the free Advanced Task Killer with only ATK and Juice Defender running. In 12 hours of using the phone a few times, texts, and even surfing the web, and watching 20 mins of video I still have about 80%. It makes a big difference.
I just make sure to use my ATK before I turn the screen off on my phone.

Oh yeah I also rooted my phone and removed all bloatware.

Well, when I had a G2x, it wasn't too bad at the start, but after I tried the HDMI output, the battery life went to hell in a heartbeat, i.e. full to dead within 8 hours with no network connectivity, and the phone always using the battery even when off. I think the HDMI output got shorted somehow to always on, and thus never stopped drawing power for nothing. Besides, my G2 was never anywhere near as bad as the G2x in power usage, even back at stock unrooted Froyo, so to give a blanket statement of "all Android phones suck down batteries like nothing" is simply an over-generalization.

wildone81 said:
Well, when I had a G2x, it wasn't too bad at the start, but after I tried the HDMI output, the battery life went to hell in a heartbeat, i.e. full to dead within 8 hours with no network connectivity, and the phone always using the battery even when off. I think the HDMI output got shorted somehow to always on, and thus never stopped drawing power for nothing. Besides, my G2 was never anywhere near as bad as the G2x in power usage, even back at stock unrooted Froyo, so to give a blanket statement of "all Android phones suck down batteries like nothing" is simply an over-generalization.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
im not saying all android phones batteries suck..... but take into consideration what these phones are doing.... and you cant really compare the G2x to any other android phone except the Atrix and o2X because its a dual core...... so comparing it to a galaxy s 4G or a nexus s isnt really giving this phone the credit it deserves

nate420 said:
im not saying all android phones batteries suck..... but take into consideration what these phones are doing.... and you cant really compare the G2x to any other android phone except the Atrix and o2X because its a dual core...... so comparing it to a galaxy s 4G or a nexus s isnt really giving this phone the credit it deserves
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I will try once again and see hoe much it last before it is down to 10%. Wiped battery stats last night and realized that i had unfreeze my account. So i just froze it again and recharged the phone.
Don't get me wrong though i really like this phone alot better than my other two smartphones.
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA App

I have the answer
*** TO GET STRAIGHT TO THE POINT, SKIP TO THE BOTTOM BOLD POINTS****
*** READ ENTIRE THING TO GET DETAILS AND COMMENTARY, I TALK TOO MUCH****
All:
I've always had Motorola Droid phones. They have excellent battery out of the box, but I truly bumped it up with a few steps.
First off if I buy a phone that has GPS, WIFI, Bluetooth, etc. I plan to keep those functions ON and running ALL THE TIME as I don't want to get in my car and say, ohh yeah let me renable bluetooth etc. No, that's now how I operate. So all the tips below greatly extended battery life without disabling functionality. I do however disable autostarting of apps like Skype, Fring, and Qik. I mean let's face it how often is someone video calling you randomly?
This phones are turning into computers, think about how long it takes to install windows, load all your applications, configure and tweak your settings, register your software etc etc. But just like the more apps you install in Windows the more sh1t wants to autostart when you boot into Windows and load up your task tray (taking resources) is the same way the phones are working.
I recently returned a G2X, not for battery life but for other reasons. I actually was able to improve the battery life using the methods below.
First off, everyone always talks about a task killer. This is a must have. BUUUUT! You have to use it properly and this isn't the main thing that will help you save your battery.
Another must have but NEVER talked about app is AUTOSTARTS. **Root Required**
Autostarts let's you disable items that always enable themselves on certain actions. For example, why does an app you killed relaunch itself randomly? Why does it load on start up? Well autostarts let's you see all apps set to load on startup, also when certain criteria is met. For example, some apps are set to start on "click" of a button for example.
Autostarts let's you disable those apps from EVER starting unless you specifically start it. Let's face it, most apps we download only need to be used when we launch it.
Task killer let's you kill unnecessary apps running in the background, or an app you're down with that you want to kill versus it running in the background using CPU cycles and battery life.
THE KEY IS, YOU MUST NOT KILL OR DISABLE A SYSTEM SERVICE. Most system services are obvious GMAIL, CORP EMAIL, BLUETOOTH SERVICE, WIFI SVC, GOOGLE SERVICES, AT&T/VERIZON/T-Mobile/SPRINT (etc) SERVICES (with the exception of bloatware services).
Task killer will let you see what's running, and place certain items on the IGNORE list so you don't accidentally disable it in the future. Then you need to set your options in task killer to HIDE IGNORED items to further take it from your view.
Those are the first steps. I don't know why AUTOSTARTS isn't more popular. For you computer geeks, it's like MSCONFIG in windows where you disable services that load automatically for no reason.
Also believe it or not WIFI seems to use much less power than AT&T, T-Mobile, and Sprint's 4G network. And let's face it, neither of the aforementioned carriers are really giving us much with their 4G. Wifi still beats them in speeds, and of course Verizon LTE sh1ts on them. So keep your WIFI on when in an WIFI area like home, work, etc. You'd be amazed at just how much battery life that alone can save.
Next, I followed the steps below taken from another thread started by spencersir2, many of the steps I had never done before on previous phones, but I did on a G2X and Atrix and it actually did help even further. I only listed the steps I used that helped, he recommended installing a lot of other software that in my opinion only adds to the problem.
All the steps work for any Android phone, but some of the steps are specific to T-Mobile (i.e. wifi calling option)
Root The Phone. There is plenty of links and help if you don't know how or have questions about rooting.
(Root Needed) Set CPUand it does nothing but save battery. I currently have it set on 216 - 1000 for when the screen is on and the only profile i have is for when the screen is off and it is at 216-216.
(Root Needed) Battery Calibration. I'm still skeptical if this helped but it can't hurt. Because I did everything at once, I didn't individually test this to see if it made a difference. It doesn't hurt so just do it.
Wifi Never sleep. Supposedly according to some if you change wifi to Never Sleep it will stop some loop in the programing which in turn will save battery. - TRY AND SEE IF THIS HELPS, I THINK IT DOES HELP THE G2X NOT SURE IF IT HELPS OTHER ANDROID PHONES
T-Mobile specific - Wifi Calling. If you didn't decide to freeze/uninstall this app. Make sure that this is OFF, because whenever you have wifi on it will constantly flip between Wifi Calling and normal radio towers, which once again is bad for your battery life.
RECAP:
- Root Phone
-Download SetCPU from market. G2X users, select NVIDIA Tegra 2 at launch of app. Other users select one best appropriate for your device. Create a profile that says SCREEN OFF MIN=216 MAX=216. You may need to adjust the max to wake phone up faster depending on your phone. You shouldn't need to bump the max up to more than 400 something. This only reduces CPU speed when screen is off. Helps with battery!
- Download Autostarts from market, look at all that's running under each column, disable anything you don't need to autostart
- Download Taskiller (it's the red guy, not the green one). Hide system services by long pressing on icon, then select IGNORE. Then go to options and say HIDE IGNORED ITEMS. This so you don't KILL an important system app. (Read above for details on what is a system app)
- Use WiFi whenever possible. Uses much less power than 4G. Not sure about 3G but 4G is a battery killer. If you have Wifi, use it. It's faster anyway.
- Change Wifi settings to never sleep (test for a day see if helps or not, if not change it back to default setting). It helped G2X not sure if it helps other Android phones.
- Disable Wifi Calling (T-Mobile only)
- Download battery calibration from market, not sure if it helps but it def didn't hurt anything. and it's very simple.

I've tried all the tricks listed before (freezing apps, doing the secret menu, etc), and still had TERRIBLE battery life. I tried installing an app (switch pro), and had a toggle switch for data on and off thinking it might help. It helped just slightly. What did work, was putting a 2g-4g toggle switch on, and it has made a night and day difference. This, and I used the battery calibration program a few times, and in clockwork. Normally, I wake up at 6:30am and by the time it's 4pm I was normally down to 35ish %. Now, I'm at around 85% when I leave work. I'm thinking it has to do with the 2g, but it doesn't make sense that when I toggled data off, I got terrible battery, and just switching to 2g makes that big of a difference. Either way, I'm SUPER happy with battery life now.

i really have to question people saying they get 20+ hours of battery life, i mean if i stop all sync, disconnect 4g and only use 2g, not use the internet, shut off wifi, no bluetooth and do all the tricks that people have suggested. I still don't get a full day's use. but what the H is the point of having a super phone that i can't use it's functions i might as well get a clam shell phone that lasts 3 days without charging. I really like this phone but at this point the battery life is killing me i have to take like 3 different chargers everywhere i go!!

Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk

I don't see how you guys are still having battery problems. One a full charge, i'm able to get at least 12+ hrs with moderate to heavy use. Facebook and 3 email sync is set at 1 hr. About 100+ text and 10 emails a day. Wifi is on the whole time. Wifi calling as well. My screen brightness is set to auto. GPS is also always on.
I have to admit, the first few days, the battery life was about the same as my hd2 running android, but its gotten better now and its amazing.

Solution: buy a new battery.

[REVIEW] My new SamChg vs. my old CM7 Droid

I am upgrading from an original MotoDroid. While that phone has served me very well for the last 18 months, it died a week ago, and had to be replaced. Time for an upgrade!!!
My MotoDroid was running CM7 Nightlies, so I'll be comparing to that.
Style:
While this is a matter of personal taste, I think the SamChg has sleeker lines, and the glass blends nicely with the buttons at the bottom. The MotoDroid was way more solid with more metal, though.
But, no more lip from the MotoDroid.
Winner: SamChg
Hardware:
MotoDroid Quadrant score: ~400. SamChg Quadrant Score: ~1500. Plus, the SamChg has 4G. I got 7 Mb/sec of real, sustained downloading (!!!), not just a benchmark speed. Even the SamChg 3G speeds measured about twice as fast as the MotoDroid.
Winner: Are you kidding? SamChg, by a long shot.
Battery Life:
I regularly have my email checked throughout the day. I have the same settings on both phones. I also have both phones set to 3G only.
The MotoDroid would be at around 70% battery after a moderate day's use. If I never used the MotoDroid during the day, it would be at 90% after 24 hours. The SamChg on the other hand, is at 70% battery after 6 hours of no use (left alone overnight). If I use the phone much at all, my SamChg battery life is in the 40's before my work day is through. I absolutely have to have a charger with me at all times, and now keep the SamChg plugged into my laptop at work.
Winner: MotoDroid
Desktop UI Speed:
The MotoDroid was significantly faster than when I first took it out of the box. I was running a 800 Mhz kernel with CM7's Gingerbread-based kernel. I also was running ADW Launcher EX, which significantly improved the desktop speed and appearance. Live Wallpapers were not an option, unless I wanted to live with a sluggish desktop experience.
Out of the box, the SamChg was a bit chunky with the desktop UI. Small delays occurred while using it. I also did NOT like the TouchWiz UI. So, I installed ADW Launcher EX, which improved the speed a little and usability a lot. Then, an hour or two after opening my SamChg, I installed the rooted Voodoo kernel and Lagfix. Everything runs silky smooth now, even with Live Wallpapers. Even better without LWP, of course. Very, very nice.
Winner: SamChg, hands down.
Functionalty:
This isn't a fair comparison. I'm using modified ROMs on both, and CM7 is a great Gingerbread-based ROM with a lot of added features.
There isn't much that the SamChg offers functionally over the CM7 MotoDroid, so I'll just list some of the hardware and software features that I really miss on my SamChg:
Stay "On" when connected to power.
Bluetooth Wireless tethering to our Honeycomb tablet.
Notification LED
Charging LED
Real Keyboard (But, I don't miss it too much)
Real Camera button (But, I don't miss it too much)
Not a big fan of the puzzle pieces in the TouchWiz UI. Maybe I'll get used to it.
One item in the SamChg plus column (for me) is the physical Menu/Home/Back/Search buttons at the bottom of the screen. I have had lots of times where I pressed the virtual buttons on the MotoDroid, and I wasn't sure they registered. At least now, I'll know that I pressed the button (even if the SamChg doesn't respond)
Winner: MotoDroid
Screen:
Not much to say here. The MotoDroid has Gorilla Glass, and it appears that the SamChg does, too (based on other postings). The SamChg has an absolutely beautiful screen with vivid colors, and it's larger than my MotoDroid's.
Winner: SamChg.
Camera:
Honestly, who cares? They both suck, and wouldn't even be sellable as low-end cameras. Totally worthless hyped-up megapixel ratings are listed for phone cameras with dusty gunked-up plastic lenses and no real focus or low-light capabilities. If you want to take quality pictures that you really care about, get a digital SLR. If you want to take pictures you don't care about, either one of these is fine. The MotoDroid has a physical camera button. The SamChg does not.
Winner: None.
Modability:
The MotoDroid has been hacked a lot longer, with a better set of ROMs and tools available. The SamChg is new in the game. The SamChg is not bootloader locked, though, which was a big part of my buying decision.
Winner: MotoDroid, for now. Hopefully, both will be winners as time goes on.
Overall winner: SamChg, with a few caveats.
Here are my main concerns:
1) The SamChg was a really, really nice upgrade. I would have loved to get a dual-core 4G phone, but with the poor battery life I'm seeing now, I'd be afraid that the dual core would only make things worse. My biggest complaint is that the SamChg won't make it through the day without recharging, even if I have 4G turned off. This problem may be fixed over time, as leaner ROMs are introduced. Hopefully so, or I probably have an early upgrade in my future. If the battery could easily make it through the day without recharging, the SamChg would have been the hands-down winner, and probably the best phone on the market.
2) The face proximity sensor is WAY too sensitive. The sensor is to the right of the earpiece. When in a call and using the dialpad, if I get a finger too close to the sensor (approx. 1 inch away), the screen blanks out and the dialpad is unusable until I move my fingers away. This has happened quite a few times now. Retraining myself should fix this over time, but maybe Samsung needs to adjust the sensitivity to really fix this issue.
3) Acquiring a 4G signal is kind of dicey, even in a strong signal area. Most times, I go into the phone settings and modify the Mobile Network System Selection to reacquire. An annoyance, but it should be fixable in software.
Cheers,
¿GotJazz?
If I've helped you out, send a little "thanks" my way ...

¿GotJazz? said:
Battery Life:
I regularly have my email checked throughout the day. I have the same settings on both phones. I also have both phones set to 3G only.
The MotoDroid would be at around 70% battery after a moderate day's use. If I never used the MotoDroid during the day, it would be at 90% after 24 hours. The SamChg on the other hand, is at 70% battery after 6 hours of no use (left alone overnight). If I use the phone much at all, my SamChg battery life is in the 40's before my work day is through. I absolutely have to have a charger with me at all times, and now keep the SamChg plugged into my laptop at work.
Winner: MotoDroid
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You obviously have something set to update way to much fro your charge to be down to 70% after no use. I managed 36 hours before recharge and that included phone calls and email. More than ever with my DX
1) The SamChg was a really, really nice upgrade. I would have loved to get a dual-core 4G phone, but with the poor battery life I'm seeing now, I'd be afraid that the dual core would only make things worse. My biggest complaint is that the SamChg won't make it through the day without recharging, even if I have 4G turned off. This problem may be fixed over time, as leaner ROMs are introduced. Hopefully so, or I probably have an early upgrade in my future. If the battery could easily make it through the day without recharging, the SamChg would have been the hands-down winner, and probably the best phone on the market.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Again, you need to manage something better. Either your screen brightness/timeout or stuff updating in the background or GPS.
2) The face proximity sensor is WAY too sensitive. The sensor is to the right of the earpiece. When in a call and using the dialpad, if I get a finger too close to the sensor (approx. 1 inch away), the screen blanks out and the dialpad is unusable until I move my fingers away. This has happened quite a few times now. Retraining myself should fix this over time, but maybe Samsung needs to adjust the sensitivity to really fix this issue.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Never had this problem.

Nice review! Thorough, I like it.
However, I am also concerned about your battery loss. I lose maybe less than 10% over 8 hours while I'm sleeping.
With all the goodies (bluetooth, 4G, full brightness, etc.) on I am losing about 10%/hour with moderate-heavy use. I am also syncing 3 gmail accounts, facebook/twitter every hour, and WordFeud push notifications.

My only issue with the Samsung is that the radio is nowhere near as sensitive as the Motorola. I have both the Original Droid and Droid 2 Global and they're both substantially better. The loss of signal really has an impact on 3G speeds. I may end up returning the Charge and waiting for either the Droid 3 or Bionic.

ShotgunSam said:
You obviously have something set to update way to much fro your charge to be down to 70% after no use. I managed 36 hours before recharge and that included phone calls and email. More than ever with my DX
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi, ShotgunSam - I made two changes last night that seemed to have made a huge difference in my battery life:
I loaded the Debloated ED2 v4 ROM, and
I removed K-9 Mail, and switched to the TouchWiz Email app.
I'm not sure if one made more difference than the other (or, if one made no difference at all). But, K-9 Mail polled my email every 10 minutes for one account, and 30 minutes for another account. TW Email uses the Verizon mail server to "push" email (which, I think occurs every 10 minutes or so).
Not sure how much the Debloated ED2 v4 impacted things.
I'll have a better idea after a day of work tomorrow on how the SamChg battery life is. Looks very promising, tho!
ShotgunSam said:
Never had this problem.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I know that I'm not the only one with the dialpad blanking problem. At least one other user mentioned that they are seeing the same thing in another posting.
I may have to return my SamChg later this week if this is a defect.
craigg1 said:
My only issue with the Samsung is that the radio is nowhere near as sensitive as the Motorola. I have both the Original Droid and Droid 2 Global and they're both substantially better. The loss of signal really has an impact on 3G speeds. I may end up returning the Charge and waiting for either the Droid 3 or Bionic.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
craigg1 - I haven't seen a significant signal decrease on my SamChg. In the building I work at, I used to see about 2-3 bars of 3G goodness at my desk on my MotoDroid. When USB tethering, I would get around 500-600 kb/sec download rates.
On my SamChg, I can't get a good 4G signal reliably, but I get about 2-3 bars for 3G pretty regularly. My USB tethering download rates for 3G are pretty consistently around 1.5 kB/sec, tho - so I assume I'm getting a better signal for those bars (or better hardware on the SamChg).
4G at my home, though, pegs the meter! I could probably turn off the WiFi to my SamChg now.

As for the puzzle piece lockscreen, if you're on a deodexed rom nitsuj posted an aosp one. Been using that since it was posted.

boostedjti said:
As for the puzzle piece lockscreen, if you're on a deodexed rom nitsuj posted an aosp one. Been using that since it was posted.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
boostedjti - I'm running the Debloated ROM now, which also seems to have removed the puzzle-piece stuff.
FWIW, I didn't mind the puzzle lockscreeen itself. But, after using simpler Android versions of the phone answering screen, the TW puzzle phone answer screen was annoying to me.

Extreme measures for better battery life

I finally decided I would take some extreme measures to aide the BL of my Androids. I have an HTC Inspire and HTC HD2 with Nexus S Android. The HD2 isn't all that bad...much better BL than the Inspire, but I wanted to apply this measure to both phones. Will it help? Only time will tell.
I started by removing all screen widgets. Then I sorted the screen icons so that a minimum of homescreens were needed...got it down to 2 homescreens. Then I deleted all widgets without apps not able to be opened through an icon. Then I went into Applications manager and cleared and stopped all non-used apps and services. I also deleted all duplicate services such as OEM email accounts and their associated syncing....using add-in apps for them. (example: built-in apps and widgets like Facebook, Twitter are uninstalled or disabled and am using another combining app like Seesmic. Same goes for the email app)
What I currently have is an Android iPhone. I'm using only icons on the 2 homescreens. And this makes me understand why Apple refuses to use widgets and stick with icons...to preserve BL. I hope this will improve the BL of my Androids because it is purely horrendous. And it is horrendous with all Androids I've tried and used.
Until the recently announced battery tech breakthrough is made available, this might have to be how Android is used from now on. But I doubt these extreme measures will actually help.

What is the difference between a widget and an application?

An application is a single, whole program package that is loaded into the phone. Examples would be Tapatalk, the default Calculator, and Angry Birds.
An application can have one or more widgets in it -- a widget is an interactive thing you can place on the home screen. It can give you information, and you can tap on it to change what it says. A good example of that would be Beautiful Widgets, or the little Android guy that tells you about how to use your new phone.
Sent from my Wildfire S

@Marty, how long was your battery lasting prior to the "Extreme Makeover"? Mine currently will last me 2 days. Admittedly, I've not loaded a lot of stuff on the phone yet, and I have the power saver mode start at 70%...but I only need to recharge every other day.

My desire lasts around 2 days with moderate usage. But on a good day (read: many boring moments), it's completely depleted by the end of the day. My biggest battery drainer is whatsapp, if I uninstall the app my battery will last a LOT longer.
If i really need my phone to last for a long time (when Im on a big trip or on a festival) I always use JuiceDefender with a very strict setting. This is a big help, but not for everyday use

whats the point? Where ever you sleep you have access to a plug/usb w/e so whats the big deal ? how hard is it to charge the phone every night? even thought my galaxy s2 hold battery for 40hrs+ i never need that :|

Ive dont the same thing, I also found some build prop and init.d tweaks that improve battery life.
my brightness is always at minimum, i have only one widget,
My battery could last two days BUT i use my phone a lot. like its on for 7 hours with 4.5 hrs screen on.

grudas said:
whats the point? Where ever you sleep you have access to a plug/usb w/e so whats the big deal ? how hard is it to charge the phone every night? even thought my galaxy s2 hold battery for 40hrs+ i never need that :|
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hilarious.

ther have been many apps and disucssions on BL. heres some common tips.
screen to lowest brightness possible setting. background data always off unless using market. disable -use wireless networks- options, no gps, no location. also turn off *back up my data*. wifi always off not in use. screeen timeout no more than 2 minutes. turn off animations and transitions. setcpu with moderate settings (if you can do a screen off profile it will be beneficial but beware Sleep of Death.) no live wallpapers. minimum widgets or none. minimum homescreens or 1. startup manger. adfree. location cache app. and battery calibration to get the most juice.

the issues seems to be alot with hardware the Htc inspire and HD2 have 1250 Mah Batteries , which are very small.

If some people are just like me... I can kill at 1800mah battery in 5 hours even at full charge...
I do everything on my smartphone. So anything to save the battery is a good way.
I have the Galaxsy S II and I've managed to drain the battery in 6hours of usage and since I'm not near a power source most of the time then yeah I need all the juice....
I don't sit in an office or am near a power source 80% of the time. I usually carry 2 spare batteries with me and a charger for them just in case.
Cheers! (Extreme power user).
grudas said:
whats the point? Where ever you sleep you have access to a plug/usb w/e so whats the big deal ? how hard is it to charge the phone every night? even thought my galaxy s2 hold battery for 40hrs+ i never need that :|
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

grudas said:
whats the point? Where ever you sleep you have access to a plug/usb w/e so whats the big deal ? how hard is it to charge the phone every night? even thought my galaxy s2 hold battery for 40hrs+ i never need that :|
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Whats the point??
Here is my daily usage :
Alarm goes off at 6:30am (phone gets unplugged)
Blahblah (at work) reply to emails and messages throughout the day, on twitter A LOT (plume premium)
2 calls approx 30 mins each
Play some games at break and lunchtime (Drag racing KILLS my battery, a bit of plants vs zombies, grave defence HD and maybe some pinball deluxe)
more emails and twitter
another 20min call
a little more gaming while im waiting on customers (1hr or so??)
6pm go home for 6:30pm
BAM! battery is at 10-20% and i need to plug it in again.
this is a typical 12hr day for me and im sure others have longer days and i would appreciate not having to rush home (sometimes) if im expecting a call.
so as far as im concerned anything which will save some precious battery on my devices is appreciated.
btw i have reduced my homescreens to 3 and only have 2 widgets running and that has made a great difference to my battery life (esp. on the DHD)
Irvysan

Basically kill factory and carrier bloatware and you are getting better.
One thing I was amazed about was the eBook reader that comes with our Galaxy Tabs, and suppose others too.. it always working even if you dont have or use it.
And remember, the screen is what takes most out of your BL, always. Lower brightness? Get a better ROM with no bloatware and maybe undervolt the screen.
Homescreens dont change a bit. Widgets do, if they update a lot.. more than that notification stuff do. Like if you use a antivirus or antisomething, just check of notifications.. check of any unneeded notifications.
Vibration theorically is what consumes the most.. but since its not as used as the screen, you dont even compare them. But every little bit helps. Check off keyboard clicks and hepatic feedback - vibrations.
Wifi, bluetooth, data... don't actually consume much.. actually it's better if you leave a service stable on, than keep sleeping and switching it. So leave wifi always on, no sleep policy. But when you go out turn it of so it doesnt keep scanning all the time (unless you want to ).
Just like any PC, the more you install.... Just check what you got going on, learn how to check processes and services that keep on all the time, and there are some utils to help stop some crap from starting up. I use ROM Toolbox and Autostarts.. some stuff get activated just because you plug you device to charge!
DONT use task killers... dont let anything like that keep running... and no, GMail push notifications wont use any batt. Maybe pop/imap emails always pollling will use some.. but probably nothing compared to the examples above.
Cheers for my 2 cents.
EDIT: and after Xmas, remove those animated wallpapers!

Is Juice Defender a task killer? Not really sure what is it but I've been wondering about that.
Juice Defender Ultimate has been giving me about a 1/3 more time with screen on max. Why is my screen on max, because I was trying to drain the phone. It's on about 40% now which is still pretty bright. I wouldn't be mad to get more life but I think 20+ hrs with moderate use isn't bad. I think the most I did was search the net about 4 hours total. But I was also, customizing, so it the screen was lit for a while.
This is a TMO GSII I'm talking about.

There are a ton of things you can do, but the truth of it all is that our 3G/4G radios pull so hard they drain the battery, which is why you were on the right track when you disable active since, Facebook and Twitter.
The main two things I do, is
1. add a widget for turning off 3G or 4G (If its in your area).
2. Installed Startup Manager ( it disables startup programs in the unseen background, (my phone is rooted)).
by doing these two things I am able to get 17hrs+ on a standard HTC EVO 4G battery. Keep in mind the more you use the Internet the more it will drain your battery. So I only turn the internet connection on when I need it or the app needs it.
*I also only use one screen and remove unnecessary widgets but I find that doesn't help the battery life all that much, (my personal Preference)
*When I or my sons game on my phone I put it on Airplane more which turns off all Radios including the Phone (call/text)
*Drawback to turning 3G off, you have to wait a few second for the internet to come back on and MMS won't download through your messenger unless have it one.
I've been off the charge for 8hrs and my battery life is still at 65%
Sorry to be long winded but if I know anything its battery life

Completely agree. What's the point. Either you don't use your phone for ANYTHING, and watch the battery last for 2 weeks (literally), or you use it so heavily that it lasts only 2 hours....
I was sick recently, and as such couldn't use my phone (I couldn't open my eyes without getting dizzy, and even closed.... still was). Suddenly my HTC Inspire 4G used only 20% of the battery in 10 hours. The previous day, heavy mail, "friendstream" (HTC's facebook/twitter/etc app/widget), listening to music (well, audiobooks) for about 8 hours, and I had only 20% left. And i've found that overclocking the phone to 1.3GHz helps more than any other tweak.
Don't get me wrong, I'm obsessive about using my phone *and* getting awesome battery life out of it. But the ONLY way to true "maximize" your battery life is to *minimize* your usage. But then you might as well buy a feature phone.
And I know a few people with iPhones. a 3GS and a 4 and a 4S. They don't get any better battery life than I do. Heck, they get worse. Even under the same type of usage.
For me, the problem isn't the usage, isn't what's running, or what's loaded (but it does help/hurt). The problem is that battery technology has NOT kept up with consumer needs, or IT development. Your battery is dying as soon as it leaves the factory. Your battery is dying every time you change it. Especially when it gets hot. your battery dies faster when it's cold outside. We need better energy storage medium. Period.

Buy the biggest battery I can find on eBay....
Use the fsck out of my phone all day and have plenty of battery left.
Problem solved.

Drashna said:
We need better energy storage medium. Period.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
<<<< What he said

I don't think the use of WiFi could be overstated.
On my Skyrocket, leaving Wifi on (indoors), it'll sip about 1% every hour. I go out and have 4G LTE on, it drinks up about 3% every hour.
Minimizing widgets also helps. I saw noticeably better battery after removing my facebook and Latitude widgets.
The screen also sucks up the most battery. Turn it off on every occasion. Just turning it off instead of letting it shut off by itself has made a difference for me.

Drashna said:
For me, the problem isn't the usage, isn't what's running, or what's loaded (but it does help/hurt). The problem is that battery technology has NOT kept up with consumer needs, or IT development.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Battery technology has kept up with usage. However, battery size in relation to the power draw, has not.
Compare the size of the back cover on your phone, with the size of the battery. Why is the battery this tiny little 2" square, when the phone is 5" tall and 2.5" wide? Why aren't batteries the same height/width as the phone? Why isn't the battery the same size as the back cover? Why aren't phone manufacturers optimising the size of the battery (meaning, making it as big as possible)?
It would be so nice if phone manufacturers would stop with this stupid "race to the thinnest" crap, and started:
- releasing phones that are actually comfortable to hold like a phone
- releasing phones with batteries larger than a pack of matches
your battery dies faster when it's cold outside.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Actually, keeping a battery cool makes it last longer, not drain faster.

Horrible battery life. Typical or bad phone?

First off, yes I realize that complaints about the Skyrocket battery are very common, and coming from a Nexus One I'm no stranger to the nightly charging, but I feel like my phone may have a real issue with proper battery management. For example, I'm looking at my phone now. It's been on for 4hrs 43 mins and is down to 73%. Screen is 61% usage and then the typical other stuff below it. For the record the screen has been on for MAYBE 20 minutes total for answering texts and checking Facebook/twitter updates. I should also note that I am using the Galaxy Nexus extended battery. I feel like every time I turn on the screen I lose 1-3% of battery. For the record, I've tried multiple Roms (Stock, SuperStock, NexusMod, Sky ICS, and running CM9 RC2 currently) and multiple radios (running RUXLF3 currently). I've tried underclocking my CPU with SetCPU and that doesn't seem to help. I just installed JuiceDefender but I don't see that doing much as I can't really turn off data with the screen off because I'm connected to my company's email (refreshes automatically every hour.) The only stuff I get pushed to me is Gmail (and I consider a very busy email day to be 5 emails in a given day). I don't get Twitter or Facebook updates sent to my phone. And yes I have Wifi/BT/GPS off as I don't need them. I'm not in an LTE market and thus am using HSPA+. However, when I WAS in an LTE area (NYC and Atlanta) the battery drain was almost to the point where I almost hoped I DIDN'T get LTE in my market if it meant my battery life would be as atrocious as it was.
Within about a 8 hour period it is not uncommon at all to be around 50%, sometimes dipping as low as 30% depending on how boring my day is thus resulting in more FB/Twitter checks than normal. I know that the Galaxy Extended battery isn't going to give me life on par with a Razr MAXX, but the difference I've noticed between the OEM and Extended seem almost negligible. Is this considered "Typical" performance or am I doing something wrong either software/hardware wise? Could I just have a bad phone and try and get it replaced since it's still under 1 year warranty? I'd prefer to not have to do that unless necessary as it means I need to back everything up and then wipe out my data and go back to Stock and reset the flash counter and then do the ICS update via Kies (because I know AT&T will fire back and say "Try out ICS first and then return if that doesn't work!") and all that fun junk.
Thanks

Sounds about right to me. Just turn off data when you aren't using it is all I can say.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using xda premium

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1759541
My thoughts:
1. 50% in 8 hours of moderate use is, imo, not terribly unusual for a Skyrocket without a ton of fine-tuning done to it. The Skyrocket, in general, is not a marathon-runner of a phone. It's better for short sprints, although you can (as I have) make it a marathon runner with extensive tweaking.
2. I haven't tried all the ROMs you've listed, but I can tell you that CM9 on my Captivate and my Skyrocket had severe wakelock issues. My Skyrocket's battery would drain off at twice my usual rate when I tried it, and the ROM prevented my Captivate from sleeping at all (I was lucky to get six hours out of a charge--at best). It's not my favorite ROM for battery life. SkyICS, in my experience, is the absolute best battery life of any ROM.
3. Get rid of JuiceDefender and SetCPU. JuiceDefender works primarily by preventing applications from doing what they want to do. Common sense dictates that when a computer program is unable to do an assigned task because its primary method of doing so is blocked, it will try something else. That "something else" may or may not result in a series of wakelocks. SetCPU is designed for single-core processors. The changes it makes will usually affect only one of the two cores in a Skyrocket's CPU, causing the second core to do weird things. I do, however, recommend using System Tuner. All you need is the free version, because all you need to do is lower your min to 192 and change your governor to ondemand or conservative (I use conservative). You're not forcing new profiles onto the phone's CPU, just giving it a little "attitude adjustment".
4. Get rid of the Facebook app and replace it with Friendcaster. Like, now. The Facebook app uses battery and data even if you tell it not to.
5. Have you downloaded BBS? If so, are you using it to track down your wakelocks? I've got a post inside of the above thread that explains how to do so and, well, explains just about everything else I've already said here or would say if I continued. So, yeah, just read that thread. It's not terribly long, and there's a ton of great info in the OP and throughout.
For reference, I'm a light-to-moderate user of my phone, not as heavy as you by any means. I'm not in an LTE area, which helps. That being said, with the Nexus extended battery, I'm now at 2 days, 5 hours and still at 23% charge. I used the phone very heavily while traveling a couple of days ago, starting at 7:00 AM Eastern at 100% and ending at 11:45 PM Mountain with 11% left, 4h45m of screen-on time.

I just find that odd since I find people giving great stories with the SKY ICS and others in terms of battery life. Ironically, I've found that SKY gave me some of the WORST battery life which really made me feel like a dolt. Here's the latest battery stats attached. Perhaps my view of things is skewed though because my day starts at 6am and I'm at work by 7 (with my phone typically turned on at 6:30) so I still have a good portion of my day left by the time I get home and my phone is typically less than 50% by that time. It's weird to know you have about 7 hours left in your day and your phone is saying like 40% power left.

What's your screen-on time in those screenshots? The frequent wake-ups make me think that you've got some rogue apps syncing when they shouldn't be.

Hello OP, I have exactly the same problems as you except i'm still running stock (rooted with frozen bloat). I tried the Galaxy Nexus Extended Battery and from stock it was more horrible. appox 1 hour less than the stock battery. I did try not using my phone like normal (about 25 mins of screen on time) which was a PITA because mobile internet is my only way to sneak down time while watching my toddler son. The battery lasted 11 hours. With stock battery, I would've lasted around 10 hours. A lot of people say it might be bad battery BUT how can I have such terrible luck to get a bad stock and a bad GNEX ext batt??? lol. So I ordered the qcell 3800mah extended battery and boy I won't be looking back!!!! I am currently still at 25% battery, 17 hours 20 mins with 3 hour 38 mins screen on!! I watched two Naruto episode last night and didn't have to worry about my phone dying while I'm sleeping and end up not getting important calls from husband early in the morning. The hump doesn't look great but it does not bother me when I'm holding the phone and I have small hands. The weight is a little bit on the heavy side but for so much more battery hours, I don't think you'd mind. Now, if you are the type who is always out and can't find sockets all the time, I suggest you try this qcell ext batt. for $20 you can't go wrong. I know you'd hate spending another $20 but trust me the battery works wonders.
On a side note, i also ordered a charger for my standard and GNEX battery from ebay so I can charge them independently if i ever have to go on long long trips and need super juice. That's another $4, takes two weeks to get here from China. There's a hack here in XDA somewhere to make it a really fast charger because it is really a SLOW charger despite what their ad claims.
Good luck!!
PS: I also bought the SetCPU since everybody swears by it. I never saw any difference.

T.J. Bender said:
What's your screen-on time in those screenshots? The frequent wake-ups make me think that you've got some rogue apps syncing when they shouldn't be.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I just checked and it says 1 hour 4 minutes. There's NO way it's been on that long, or at least not with me looking at it, and I usually turn off my screen when I'm done as opposed to letting it go to time out, which is 60 seconds anyways. I'd say 30 minutes would be it AT MOST.

Is it in your pocket a lot or out of sight
Sent from my SGH-I727 using Tapatalk 2

droidbabyxda said:
Hello OP, I have exactly the same problems as you except i'm still running stock (rooted with frozen bloat). I tried the Galaxy Nexus Extended Battery and from stock it was more horrible. appox 1 hour less than the stock battery. I did try not using my phone like normal (about 25 mins of screen on time) which was a PITA because mobile internet is my only way to sneak down time while watching my toddler son. The battery lasted 11 hours. With stock battery, I would've lasted around 10 hours. A lot of people say it might be bad battery BUT how can I have such terrible luck to get a bad stock and a bad GNEX ext batt??? lol. So I ordered the qcell 3800mah extended battery and boy I won't be looking back!!!! I am currently still at 25% battery, 17 hours 20 mins with 3 hour 38 mins screen on!! I watched two Naruto episode last night and didn't have to worry about my phone dying while I'm sleeping and end up not getting important calls from husband early in the morning. The hump doesn't look great but it does not bother me when I'm holding the phone and I have small hands. The weight is a little bit on the heavy side but for so much more battery hours, I don't think you'd mind. Now, if you are the type who is always out and can't find sockets all the time, I suggest you try this qcell ext batt. for $20 you can't go wrong. I know you'd hate spending another $20 but trust me the battery works wonders.
On a side note, i also ordered a charger for my standard and GNEX battery from ebay so I can charge them independently if i ever have to go on long long trips and need super juice. That's another $4, takes two weeks to get here from China. There's a hack here in XDA somewhere to make it a really fast charger because it is really a SLOW charger despite what their ad claims.
Good luck!!
PS: I also bought the SetCPU since everybody swears by it. I never saw any difference.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My goal is to avoid the super extended battery because then it means I need to buy a whole new case as well. I'm one of those people that "needs" a protective case because the only reason I have the Skyrocket is because last December my 1 year old took my beloved Nexus One and threw it down 16 flights of stairs. The phone then entered a vegetative coma state and never recovered. I can't have that happen again. So basically I'd have to buy the new phone then buy the new case. I'm trying to spend as little extra money as possible.

dvandam said:
My goal is to avoid the super extended battery because then it means I need to buy a whole new case as well. I'm one of those people that "needs" a protective case because the only reason I have the Skyrocket is because last December my 1 year old took my beloved Nexus One and threw it down 16 flights of stairs. The phone then entered a vegetative coma state and never recovered. I can't have that happen again. So basically I'd have to buy the new phone then buy the new case. I'm trying to spend as little extra money as possible.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
well, there are hacks floating around with otter box to fit the hump back. I'm sure you will find other cases from ebay that can be hacked this way too. I don't have this problem since Ii use my phone naked because i only got it for $10.00 and my other line is due for upgrade soon. anyhow, it really depends mostly on what you would rather have, battery life or case. It could be the phone but most likely AT&T will tell you that smartphones consume a lot of energy and if you are not within that 30 day period anymore they'll probably give you a refurbished one and you might end up with a more dud one than the one you already have.

Illnevertell said:
Is it in your pocket a lot or out of sight
Sent from my SGH-I727 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I try to keep my phone out of my pocket because I don't think cell waves near my "area" is a good combination. When I am at work it's on my desk for about 7 hours, and then at home I usually leave it out (at a high elevation away from my daughter of course.)

Does your screen kick on when you get notifications do you know
Sent from my SGH-I727 using Tapatalk 2

dvandam said:
I just checked and it says 1 hour 4 minutes. There's NO way it's been on that long, or at least not with me looking at it, and I usually turn off my screen when I'm done as opposed to letting it go to time out, which is 60 seconds anyways. I'd say 30 minutes would be it AT MOST.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's still a little high. I was going to ask if your volume rocker wakes your phone, as that can be a big phantom screen-on culprit, but if your phone's on you desk most of the time...
Download BBS and pin down your wakelocks and alarms (which cause wakelocks) from there. If your phone's not suffering any extreme drain from a rogue app or process, then you might just be at the best you're going to get for your usage.
Have you tried different radios at all? I've heard those can have a minor effect on battery life, depending upon your area.

Illnevertell said:
Does your screen kick on when you get notifications do you know
Sent from my SGH-I727 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No but the 4 buttons do as it is a CM9 feature. Honestly though they aren't on for very long as I usually am near my phone and notice such things rather quickly.

T.J. Bender said:
That's still a little high. I was going to ask if your volume rocker wakes your phone, as that can be a big phantom screen-on culprit, but if your phone's on you desk most of the time...
Download BBS and pin down your wakelocks and alarms (which cause wakelocks) from there. If your phone's not suffering any extreme drain from a rogue app or process, then you might just be at the best you're going to get for your usage.
Have you tried different radios at all? I've heard those can have a minor effect on battery life, depending upon your area.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't use the volume rocker for waking just FYI.
I got BBS. It looks informative but I'm not really sure what I should be focusing in terms of statistics and what, if anything should jump out as problematic. Any tips?
I have tried at least 4 different radios but I haven't noticed any major difference between them.
I just saw that CM9 has now been officially released in stable form. Maybe that will help. I'll try that ROM now. I hope CM9 is not the issue, as I've always been a "Vanilla Android" kind of guy and I really like how ICS is designed. I never liked how the other ROMS still had touches of Touchwiz in them. I especially don't like how it mimics iOS styles so much. I mean, I'm definitely pro-Samsung in the major lawsuit, but Apple has more than a few valid points in their argument. Having similar icons and a SMS theme that basically mimics iOS isn't going to help Sammy in the big lawsuit.

True, it's a well-known problem. You may find some rom with better battery life (here is the rom I'm using: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1436854). You can also download some apps that save your battery. Try to turn off GPS, Wi-fi and data when you're not using, and also do not keep the brightness of your screen too high. I hope these would be helpful to you.

Check the link in my sig for details on how to really use BBS to improve your battery life. You're not that far off of a normal battery life for moderate to heavy usage, so just tweak it and go from there.

T.J. Bender said:
Check the link in my sig for details on how to really use BBS to improve your battery life. You're not that far off of a normal battery life for moderate to heavy usage, so just tweak it and go from there.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The thing is though is that I don't consider myself to be a moderate to heavy user, but more of a light to moderate. As I said, on a typical day I answer maybe 5-15 text messages, check Facebook/Twitter a handful of times, almost never get emails sent as I have no life, do almost no web browsing, and maybe take a phone call or 2. I very rarely play games and even less often stream media. My gmail is push but that's about it. I also use Touchdown for Exchange but that queries only once an hour. Am I still being unrealistic with my expectations on my battery?

Something definitely seems off, and you may well have a bad battery or even a bad phone. Try to go through and clean everything up in terms of wakelocks and any possible rogue apps. If you're still in bad shape after cleaning up your phone, something seems off. Mobile data does chew up more battery than Wifi, but not THAT much, and especially not in an HSPA area.

T.J. Bender said:
Something definitely seems off, and you may well have a bad battery or even a bad phone. Try to go through and clean everything up in terms of wakelocks and any possible rogue apps. If you're still in bad shape after cleaning up your phone, something seems off. Mobile data does chew up more battery than Wifi, but not THAT much, and especially not in an HSPA area.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't think it's a battery issue. I've used the OEM and the Galaxy Nexus extended battery and both are delivering similar performance (although GN is slightly better obviously.) And as I mentioned, when I was in an LTE area my battery was getting beat down like Homer Simpson in a fight with Drederick Tatum.
Would it be advisable to try a FULL wipe of my phone? When I was installing CM9 today I saw the option to format EMMC. Should I try doing that or wiping other stuff or would that just do more bad than good? Should I try wiping that and/or the SD card?