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Steps To Twenty Hour Battery Life

Ok I have been reading since literally the first day the G2x came out about the "Horrible" battery life of the phone. So, after toying with it for about 8 days I have nailed it down so that the phone gets about 20 hours of Moderate use(Constant texting, internet for emails, YouTube, and searches, and probably about 2 hours of light gaming(not Nova or NFS)). So, Outside of the obvious like make sure your bluetooth, wifi, and GPS are off and turn your display brightness down here are my steps to Better Battery Life.
First - Root The Phone. There is plenty of links and help if you don't know how or have questions about rooting.
Second -(Root Needed) Use Titanium Backup or Antek App Manager(Antek is free) and Freeze or uninstall all the bloatware that you don't use off of your phone. Especially Car Home cause along with people on XDA i have also noticed that it does use a fair amount of battery for NO Reason.(Be careful with My T-mobile and My Device might throw your phone into a force close frenzy)
--For some reason people have been asking exactly what T-Mobile Apps you can freeze/uninstall and the answer is. All of Them. I personally left My T-Mobile(To view Minute Usage) and Wifi Calling(Cause I have no service in some buildings) and froze the rest, but you can get rid of everything you don't want or use.
Third -(Root Needed) Set CPU. Have had this on my G1 and N1 and it does nothing but save battery. I currently have it set on 216 - 1000 for when the screen is on and the only profile i have is for when the screen is off and it is at 216-216.
(Alternative) Pimp My CPU. I now am using this for my G2x because I am running custom kernal. Personally I like Set CPU better, but do to the fact that Set CPU can't get past 1000 MHz makes it kinda useless for the G2x Tegra 2.
Fourth -(Root Needed) Battery Calibration. There is an App in the Market for this and it is easier and less of a hassle than Factory Reseting the phone. Just charge all the way to 100% and i discharged to 0% and recharged it and Amazing difference in battery life. (And don't doubt the Calibrator cause right after i set it to calibrate the initial 100% got to zero in about 7 hours, but after that one cycle i was getting the 20 hours i am now)
Fifth - Elixir. Not only does this app display anything you might wanna see about your phone (CPU usage, battery temp, battery percentage, memory...) it also has a widget that lets you toggle your internet on/off. Which is almost necessary since "4G" kills battery like no other.
Sixth - Auto Sync. I shouldn't have to put this, but if you don't know your phone is set up to auto sync all your Google apps(Calendar, Gmail, Contacts) and Social Network apps(Facebook,Twitter). So go into settings and make sure that you turn auto sync off.
Now the next steps aren't proven to give extra life, but i did them just in case and well I get 20 hours of use like i said before.
Sixth - Watchdog. This app monitors all the other apps and processes in your phone and will alert you if a rogue app is draining your better life.
Seventh - I did the "Alternate Battery Fix". This involves changing one setting and who knows maybe it does help me get extra juice.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1051036
Eighth - Wifi Never sleep. Supposedly according to some if you change wifi to Never Sleep it will stop some loop in the programing which in turn will save battery.
Ninth - Wifi Calling. If you didn't decide to freeze/uninstall this app. Make sure that this is OFF, because whenever you have wifi on it will constantly flip between Wifi Calling and normal radio towers, which once again is bad for your battery life.
Well, Thats that and if y'all can think of anything that i missed or have any questions or ideas let me know! And remember this is a Dual-Core, High-End, Monster Phone and duh if you use it hardcore (Movies, HD Games, tons of web browsing) the battery will die fairly quick.
P.S. Will post a Screen Shot of Uptime for 20 hours later(if it doesn't Re-boot before i get to 20)
Update #1: Have read all the posts and have decided to speak up about a couple things.
Task Killers - I feel like these are brought up in every thread ever created about batteries, and well they are useless. So, if you are gonna bring up the ram usage argument. Android is made to kill programs that are either inactive for to long or the operating system will shut down background tasks if a new app needs the cpu power. Than for those who say that it helps close programs and makes the battery last longer.Having a Task Killer that basically re-closes the same apps over and over again(These are usually bloatware background apps that for some reason never stop running) is not gonna do anything except waste precious battery life on running the task killer itself cause the app will just restart. Your best bet is to run watchdog find the apps that are taking to much battery and freeze/uninstall them.
Managing Apps - Apps like Tasker, Juice Defender, and the like are in my opinion not battery savers at all. They are just tools to implement what i have already previously stated, but that doesn't mean that they aren't useful. They are good if you have a busy schedule and have to constantly turn the internet on and off or switch between certain settings, but they are not actually a cause of better battery just a tool to implement what you could do on your own.

I've done most of those things over the course of the last week and I just got a little over 24 hours on my last charge.
Those tips are legit.

Thanks! I was kinda worried about it cause it was my first post!

spencersir2 said:
Thanks! I was kinda worried about it cause it was my first post!
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good job man i love it most def legit

squidbutt said:
good job man i love it most def legit
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Thanks! haha but if anyone has anything to add let me know I would like this thread to hopefully kill all those other ones away cause I am tired of them cluttering the forum when I am actually looking for something!

Great job! I've been getting about 20hrs of battery life using some of these... now I have more tricks to add =-)

Good job! I'm almost done withall the tweaks and have say it helping. Thanks
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Great tips. I was doing most of those, but have added the calibration software as well as watchdog. I have also found Juice Defender to be a big help.
Thanks again.

this is still not acceptable for a phone in 2011 to still have that kind of battery, most people out there aren't really concerned about tweaking their phones or dont even know about it. Im not gonna use setCPU or anything else, i expect things just to work flawlessly out of the box.

Tasker can be a friend in this whole deal too.
If you can automate your radios & screen brightness to exactly what you need when you need it you can save significant battery life.

If your WiFi calling app can't stay on wifi, you need to fix your wifi network and not your phone.
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With all of these changes having a toggle for haptic feedback I assume would help a ton...considering its a touchscreen and a retardedly fast phone. Otherwise it vibrates on every damn user input. Just curious what others think about this. Anyways, thanks for this post....the forum is getting congested.

hanged_man said:
this is still not acceptable for a phone in 2011 to still have that kind of battery, most people out there aren't really concerned about tweaking their phones or dont even know about it. Im not gonna use setCPU or anything else, i expect things just to work flawlessly out of the box.
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Yeah, but on the flip side your an early adopter for technology that literally JUST CAME OUT and so there is no perfected system for it. I mean the version of android we are running right now doesn't even truly support dual-core! So yes this is the price we pay, and if dual core had been out for two years I would completely agree but it hasn't. This is what android has always been built on a semi flawed system but top of the line technology and thanks to the great community we have we can push the limit of every device out there even the g1.
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I meant this for people like myself who live in an area ( or college like me) where you are constantly moving in and out of wifi range and that would take a drain on your battery.
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Wotornot said:
With all of these changes having a toggle for haptic feedback I assume would help a ton...considering its a touchscreen and a retardedly fast phone. Otherwise it vibrates on every damn user input. Just curious what others think about this. Anyways, thanks for this post....the forum is getting congested.
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I think the reason we have so much haptic feedback though is because we are lacking physical buttons and the small vibration gives us the sense of a solid keyboard even though as you stated everything is a touch screen. Well that is my 2 cents anyway.
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Marcus Ryan said:
Tasker can be a friend in this whole deal too.
If you can automate your radios & screen brightness to exactly what you need when you need it you can save significant battery life.
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I will definitely look into tasker and check it out personally and add it to the list later! Thanks!
Update: I have seen programs or apps like this before many moons ago i used a program called wisyncplus and basically it is just profiles. This I guess could be used to increase battery life, but in my opinion apps like this and Juice Defender and what not are simply 1) too much of a hassle - cause you have to usually set up each profile individually 2)This is more of a convenience - It doesn't actually increase battery life it is just a manager almost like a widget.
Than back to your argument about the screen brightness my auto-adjust does just fine depending on the lighting and honestly in less your watching a movie, playing video games, or doing intense web browsing your more than likely not even gonna have your screen on that long. (and to those of you that say the Auto-Adjust doesn't work remember that this is an LCD screen it is lit from behind so it is gonna seem brighter unlike the Nexus S which is lit in the screen making it viewable with less brightness)
Than for automating radios honestly there is already widgets for that. The stock rom comes with a Wifi on/off widget so no complaints there, and elixir(which is a free and very useful app) comes with a apn off/on widget which is really all you need cause in my experience unless my internet is on I see no difference in battery life being GSM preferred over WCDMA preferred.
So in less you really do have a tight schedule, or just don't wanna mess with changing settings manually(and with widgets), Yes, Tasker is perfect cause it basically does everything for you.(even though i am pretty sure there are free apps exactly like Tasker)
(Sorry if this came off kinda rude I don't mean to flame at all just trying to say all of my opinion and back it up as best i can)
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hanged_man said:
this is still not acceptable for a phone in 2011 to still have that kind of battery, most people out there aren't really concerned about tweaking their phones or dont even know about it. Im not gonna use setCPU or anything else, i expect things just to work flawlessly out of the box.
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if this is the case, i don't think that an open-source phone is for you. the beauty of android is that anyone can personalize it and tinker with it.
the g2x is sort of like a muscle car- it has lots of [dual core]power, but the trade off is trying to manage battery life.

spencersir2 said:
I think the reason we have so much haptic feedback though is because we are lacking physical buttons and the small vibration gives us the sense of a solid keyboard even though as you stated everything is a touch screen. Well that is my 2 cents anyway.
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For the sake of min/maxing battery drain I would think toggling the vibrate after every input would help. I actually like the keyboard without it pulsing all the damn time. And my hearing might be a little sensitive to where I dislike the fart sounding vibrate motor. Haha.

jayohwhy said:
if this is the case, i don't think that an open-source phone is for you. the beauty of android is that anyone can personalize it and tinker with it.
the g2x is sort of like a muscle car- it has lots of [dual core]power, but the trade off is trying to manage battery life.
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Couldn't have said it better myself. This is exactly why I am a huge android supporter/early adopter, a car fanatic, and a Mechanical Engineering major. Because I love the individuality of it all and to be able to own something that can be unique to me.

Wotornot said:
With all of these changes having a toggle for haptic feedback I assume would help a ton...considering its a touchscreen and a retardedly fast phone. Otherwise it vibrates on every damn user input. Just curious what others think about this. Anyways, thanks for this post....the forum is getting congested.
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I dont think turning off haptic feedback will really make to much of a difference in terms of battery use.
Our phones are dual core phones, in every test run dual core phones have less of a battery draw because two cpus is better then one. When dealing with a multicore phone/computer the device can have more power without using more energy because there is less stress on the cores. The old way was a bigger battery drainer then this because 1 core would have to use more energy to produce equal amount of power that a 2 core setup would. As spencer said and we have all been saying its more of a software issue then a hardware issue. Imagine loading a computer with 24gbs of memory and have an core i7-Xtream chipset and using windows 7 32bit its pretty much a waste. I believe a lot of the issues that everyone is experiencing will be fixed by a software update or the dev team when roms of the gingerbread nature come out.
Spencer nice post btw!

Battery calibration HELP

So I love the phone but I just can't stand this battery anymore I'm starting to think t mobile gave me a used battery. Ive tried draining the battery to 0 then charging it to 100 nothing. I tried the restart nothing. I work from 8 to 4 and I start the day with 100 and end with 10 if I'm lucky! As I'm typing this its at 87% and its only 9:04. Running services like app pack car home and such are off wifi is off brightness at 50 and I kill tasks a lot with ATK can someone please give me a step by step on how to calibrate even if I have to mod the phone Thank you =)
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I'm having the same issue as well. I just received my phone yesterday and I charged it fully last night and kept it unplugged over night. Overnight it only lost about 3%. But after medium ussage this morning which consisted of checking email/texting/surfing the web, the battery dropped a significant 25% over the course of 40 minutes. Any suggestions?
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Root phone if you havent already
Charge phone to 100%
Flash clockworkrecovery
Boot into recovery and under the advanced menu select "Wipe Battery Stats"
Reboot

Rocco0891 said:
I'm having the same issue as well. I just received my phone yesterday and I charged it fully last night and kept it unplugged over night. Overnight it only lost about 3%. But after medium ussage this morning which consisted of checking email/texting/surfing the web, the battery dropped a significant 25% over the course of 40 minutes. Any suggestions?
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That kind of behavior is normal. The phone loses very little while idle but checking email and web surfing both require a data connection and that uses a lot of power. More usage = faster battery drain.

My galaxy s would easily last a full day with constant email/text and a couple hours of talk. This phone doesn't even seem to be able to last me a few hours. Do you also experience this significant battery loss?
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You prolly need to do a factory reset. For some reason some peoples phones use more power even at idle than they should. My phone was one of them. There is a whole thread about it but pretty much doing a factory reset should correct this issue. Did for me. I get almost twice the battery life of my Galaxy S.

regP said:
Root phone if you havent already
Charge phone to 100%
Flash clockworkrecovery
Boot into recovery and under the advanced menu select "Wipe Battery Stats"
Reboot
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No need to go into recovery to wipe the stats, just use Battery Calibration(requires root) its in the market and also includes instructions on how to use the app.

Berat said:
No need to go into recovery to wipe the stats, just use Battery Calibration(requires root) its in the market and also includes instructions on how to use the app.
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true story. ive never used it so it didnt come to mind lol.

In the passed hour I've now lost 40%. That can't be right, can it? :/ I'm running everything stock btw and I'm unfamiliar with rooting and things of that nature.
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I had the same problem. I followed the thread below and it worked. I've ben getting 10-15 on moderate-heavy use. I also did the htc battery calibration before I ran the battery calibration app. I use juice defender as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054420
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Rocco0891 said:
In the passed hour I've now lost 40%. That can't be right, can it? :/ I'm running everything stock btw and I'm unfamiliar with rooting and things of that nature.
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Check out the link jsauce75 posted. If you are running stock that means you most likely have background services running that are pulling significant battery. You will need to root and then use titanium backup to either remove or freeze those services.
Before doing that thought I would download Battery Monitor Widget. Use it to see how much power (mA) your phone is using. When I first got mine I was draining battery fast and when I used that widget I learned that the phone was using over 100mA even when idle. It was like the phone would never go into a sleep state. After doing a factory reset my phone idles at 1-2mA.
There isnt much you can do about battery drain while you use the phone because the screen and data connection are huge battery drains. All these tips are to improve your power consumption while idling. As I said before all I have done is factory reset and removed unneeded services and I have been getting double the battery life of my Galaxy S with the exact same apps and usage for weeks now.

Rocco0891 said:
In the passed hour I've now lost 40%. That can't be right, can it? :/ I'm running everything stock btw and I'm unfamiliar with rooting and things of that nature.
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1) You said you're using ATK "a lot". This is adding fuel to the fire. ATK is not needed with today's android systems. These apps you see sitting in ATK are sitting dormant. It's like the task manager of a computer. I have 3-4 apps running in my system tray and around 20 other services running in my task manager.. They are all sitting dormant, using zero CPU. They have ram allocated to them. That's it. That's the same as the Android. They are sitting dormant, and they have memory allocated to them. The best thing about the android OS is that it will automatically shut down dormant apps on its own. A PC doesn't do that. So, look at it this way. Let's say I'm on my laptop's battery. I have 20 apps/services running, and they are dormant. They are doing nothing towards drainage of my battery. But, I decide to turn on my screen "a lot" during the day, and kill the apps. Boom... Battery usage for the CPU to turn the screen on, the screen takes away from the battery, usage for the task monitor to be running.. Then, there is a process to shut down the apps, that takes battery.. Then on top of all that.. When the apps restart on their own.. guess what, they have CPU/Battery usage. You're adding fuel to the fire.... a lot of it, imho.
2) Install Watchdog and Titanium Backup (pay the small fee so you can freeze the apps.. or you can learn how to manually remove them yourself. I like using the app). Now, just to prove the point.. Open up ATK... Then go into Watchdog.. You'll see the apps that are running in ATK are not using any CPU. But.. when they do start up/shut down, there is some usage going on that will contribute. So with Titanium backup, freeze the apps. The apps I have frozen: AppPack, Broswer (have dolphin installed instead), Car home (2 of them?), com.android.provider. applications, com.logmein.resecuesecurity and .rescue, email (using gmail instead), My account (2 of them?), nfs shift, nova, street view, tmo TV, tegrazone, telenav, videochat voice dialer, zinio reader, zsprovider. From there, you can see the apps running in watchdog and you don't need ATK.. But, watchdog also uses processor to "monitor" the usage of other apps.. So place the threshold setting at like 40%, and the frequency at 3 or 5min. This will keep Watchdog from using too much battery, but it'll also notify you if an app is running wild on cpu usage. Maybe for 1 day, put the threshold at 30% or maybe even 20%.. so you can see if 1 or 2 apps are using a lot of power. If they are system apps or apps you want.. just leave em be. If they are not, freeze them/uninstall them.
3) I have found that using wifi and wifi calling GREATLY increases my battery life. As soon as I turn on 2g/3g/4g... my battery starts to take a fast dive. Whenever possible, use wifi/wifi calling...
4) Screen down to the lowest brightness setting. Shut off screen manually whneever you are done, or set it to 15sec shut off. I only bump up the brightness when i'm outdoors.. The glare makes the low setting impossible to see the screen.
5) Shut off syncing, bluetooth, and gps unless you need it. If you're around a computer at all where you can get your email and such, there is no need to use the phone for it. I only use tmo's network and syncing when I'm away from work or the house... typically when I'm on the road.
Lastly, yes, some people want to use their phone... use the 4g service.. etc. I understand.. But also understand that if you're going to use the phone like a computer.. and you're going to get 8hrs out of the battery... I say that's pretty dam good. This post is not meant to say that there is nothing wrong w/ the battery... It's to help you out to determine if there is a problem in the first place. There was a guy complaining about battery usage left and right. When I got involved in disussions with him, he admitted that he's on his phone all day long... txting quite a bit. Well.. duh?
I don't doubt there could be some challenges with a bad app running wild, a bad battery, etc. But I also don't doubt there are people who are using the crap out of a dual core phone.. and are doing things themselves to add to the problem... and then they blame the phone.
That's my 2c....

schmit said:
1) You said you're using ATK "a lot". This is adding fuel to the fire. ATK is not needed with today's android systems. These apps you see sitting in ATK are sitting dormant. It's like the task manager of a computer. I have 3-4 apps running in my system tray and around 20 other services running in my task manager.. They are all sitting dormant, using zero CPU. They have ram allocated to them. That's it. That's the same as the Android. They are sitting dormant, and they have memory allocated to them. The best thing about the android OS is that it will automatically shut down dormant apps on its own. A PC doesn't do that. So, look at it this way. Let's say I'm on my laptop's battery. I have 20 apps/services running, and they are dormant. They are doing nothing towards drainage of my battery. But, I decide to turn on my screen "a lot" during the day, and kill the apps. Boom... Battery usage for the CPU to turn the screen on, the screen takes away from the battery, usage for the task monitor to be running.. Then, there is a process to shut down the apps, that takes battery.. Then on top of all that.. When the apps restart on their own.. guess what, they have CPU/Battery usage. You're adding fuel to the fire.... a lot of it, imho.
2) Install Watchdog and Titanium Backup (pay the small fee so you can freeze the apps.. or you can learn how to manually remove them yourself. I like using the app). Now, just to prove the point.. Open up ATK... Then go into Watchdog.. You'll see the apps that are running in ATK are not using any CPU. But.. when they do start up/shut down, there is some usage going on that will contribute. So with Titanium backup, freeze the apps. The apps I have frozen: AppPack, Broswer (have dolphin installed instead), Car home (2 of them?), com.android.provider. applications, com.logmein.resecuesecurity and .rescue, email (using gmail instead), My account (2 of them?), nfs shift, nova, street view, tmo TV, tegrazone, telenav, videochat voice dialer, zinio reader, zsprovider. From there, you can see the apps running in watchdog and you don't need ATK.. But, watchdog also uses processor to "monitor" the usage of other apps.. So place the threshold setting at like 40%, and the frequency at 3 or 5min. This will keep Watchdog from using too much battery, but it'll also notify you if an app is running wild on cpu usage. Maybe for 1 day, put the threshold at 30% or maybe even 20%.. so you can see if 1 or 2 apps are using a lot of power. If they are system apps or apps you want.. just leave em be. If they are not, freeze them/uninstall them.
3) I have found that using wifi and wifi calling GREATLY increases my battery life. As soon as I turn on 2g/3g/4g... my battery starts to take a fast dive. Whenever possible, use wifi/wifi calling...
4) Screen down to the lowest brightness setting. Shut off screen manually whneever you are done, or set it to 15sec shut off. I only bump up the brightness when i'm outdoors.. The glare makes the low setting impossible to see the screen.
5) Shut off syncing, bluetooth, and gps unless you need it. If you're around a computer at all where you can get your email and such, there is no need to use the phone for it. I only use tmo's network and syncing when I'm away from work or the house... typically when I'm on the road.
Lastly, yes, some people want to use their phone... use the 4g service.. etc. I understand.. But also understand that if you're going to use the phone like a computer.. and you're going to get 8hrs out of the battery... I say that's pretty dam good. This post is not meant to say that there is nothing wrong w/ the battery... It's to help you out to determine if there is a problem in the first place. There was a guy complaining about battery usage left and right. When I got involved in disussions with him, he admitted that he's on his phone all day long... txting quite a bit. Well.. duh?
I don't doubt there could be some challenges with a bad app running wild, a bad battery, etc. But I also don't doubt there are people who are using the crap out of a dual core phone.. and are doing things themselves to add to the problem... and then they blame the phone.
That's my 2c....
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Thanks for the great detailed response. The OP actually was the one who stated he uses ATK, I don't. I looked through the thread with the recommendations for 20+ hour battery life and noticed that those apps you mentioned above required rooting the phone. I hate to sound so naive when it comes to this stuff but i'm a fairly new android user and have not yet discovered a lot of the technical aspects behind it all. I'm not exactly sure what rooting is and what it entails. Is it something you suggest I do? Also, my battery is slowly approaching 0%. Should I let it drain all the way before charging it again? Others suggested letting it drain all the way and doing a factory reset and that seemed to help their issues.

By default Android restricts certain areas of the OS from being accessed by third-party applications (prolly for security reasons). Only problem is a lot of great apps require such access to function properly. In order to give them that access you must root the phone.
Here is the rooting thread. It is extremely easy to do.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1039985

regP said:
By default Android restricts certain areas of the OS from being accessed by third-party applications (prolly for security reasons). Only problem is a lot of great apps require such access to function properly. In order to give them that access you must root the phone.
Here is the rooting thread. It is extremely easy to do.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1039985
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Thanks.
Does rooting affect warranty in any way?
or the ability to perform a factory reset for that matter?

Rocco0891 said:
Thanks for the great detailed response. The OP actually was the one who stated he uses ATK, I don't. I looked through the thread with the recommendations for 20+ hour battery life and noticed that those apps you mentioned above required rooting the phone. I hate to sound so naive when it comes to this stuff but i'm a fairly new android user and have not yet discovered a lot of the technical aspects behind it all. I'm not exactly sure what rooting is and what it entails. Is it something you suggest I do? Also, my battery is slowly approaching 0%. Should I let it drain all the way before charging it again? Others suggested letting it drain all the way and doing a factory reset and that seemed to help their issues.
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New to android is not an excuse, I was a religious crackberry user for the last 8 years, and I just switched over to android last month. I'd suggest you to root you phone so that you can remove the stock cr4pwares, and the ability to install custom ROMs. Took me 10 mins to figured out how to install andriod OS into my hd2, 25 mins to perm rooted and unlocked my g2(this beast is little bit more "lockdown" than the other), and 5 mins to rooted the g2x. Google is your friend, bud. If you want something more out of your g2x, use the "search" button. Just my 2 cents.

Rocco0891 said:
Thanks.
Does rooting affect warranty in any way?
or the ability to perform a factory reset for that matter?
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FYI: I'm a first time android user (smartphone user at that..) and I rooted my phone easily. You can unroot your phone just as easy as you rooted it. It's a 1 click method with that software.. check out the link. Seriously, it's easy.
You may have to have ABD ADB or whatever installed first.. Not sure. I heard about it, and did it... and then rooted.. and it worked.

Thanks for the help guys, appreciate it. I'll let you know how it goes
I'm also having another issue with the phone. I'll see if you guys can help without having to make a new thread.
Yesterday I installed Zedge and downloaded one of the wallpapers there. When I applied the wallpaper I noticed a bit of lag on my home screens, so I reverted back to the default wallpaper and the lag was still there. I deleted the app and wallpaper I downloaded but the lag was still there. I applied a default live wallpaper and the lag disappeared and everything was moving as smoothly as it had been originally, but when I apply the regular wallpaper the lag persists. Any ideas?

now if u do root and remove bloatware what all is safe to remove i have all but my account car home and i think one other can anyone provide a definite list and battery is significantly better after just that

LOL think there's not driver issues. Swapped a dead battery with a fully charges one today and been running almost 2 hours still shows 1%
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Saving Your Droid Charge's Battery
We all know that the droid charge is decent with battery but some functions just drain it so quick that it seems like its the phone itself. I have posted in several other threads about saving batter. I wanted to put together a single thread on all of the many ways as to save your battery. Some of these ways can be done through various apps free and paid. Some users of android opt to buy an extended battery for their phones to combat the high power consumption of the phone. This isn't always the best way to handle this as with the extended battery, you are very limited almost never going to find a case that protects your phone. Here are several factors that drain the charge's battery:
1. 4G. Its a known fact that Verizon's 4G connection is the fastest LTE that is in the market. This function is one of the most battery intensive functions that the phone has. While this radio is active it pulls a lot of juice from the battery to ensure that you stay connected and have the highest bandwidth possible.
2. Mobile Data. Keeping this function on allows you to recieve your email notifications, mms, and all other apps that require a data connection. This function can use 3g or 4g connection for data.
3. Screen Display. Though with the super Amolled plus screen is the best on the market, this is THE most drain on your battery.
4. Accounts and Sync. This function is a harsh one to control because it isn't always active and can run in the background or while the phone display is off.
I have listed some of the major functions of the phone that drain the battery. Below are some steps to prevent and/or help your droid charge last throughout the day. I use my phone at work while I am away from my computer or just during breaks and can last throughout an entire 10 hour work day without worry of my charge going dead.
1A. 4G. There are several things to be done to ensure that you don't let one of the droid charge's best feature become your worst enemy. While not using your phone for any data intensive apps, you should always turn this feature off to conserve battery. To turn this feature off, while on your home screen: Menu-->Settings-->Wireless & Networks-->Mobile Networks-->System Selection-->and choose CMDA Only (this is the 3g Network).
There is an easier way to get this feature on and off by a 4G toggle app and is linked here--> https://market.android.com/details?id=com.coreyapps.togglelte
2A. Mobile Data. While the above should be done every time you use/don't use your phone for data, this should be turned off always if you are connected to any wifi source. This also ensures that both your 3g and 4g radios are turned off while in a poor signal area and will save your battery the strain from trying to gain a signal. While turning this off, you will not receive data unless you are connected to wifi, but you will be able to receive calls and sms messages.
3A. Screen Display. This is the number one cause of battery drain. While there are preventative measures to ensure that you limit the strain, if you are using your phone a lot for anything, you will need to charge any device. You should pick a screen lock out timer that best suites you and you should let the phone turn the display off. I have mine set to 30 seconds and believe this to be the happy median between the two extremes. 15 seconds seems to be to short and 1 min is way to long. Note: If using the phone there should be no reason to use over 30 seconds.
4A. Accounts & Sync. This function isn't as bad as the others but can leave you puzzled if this is your first droid. This is the silent killer...To combat this only allow your phone to sync over wifi and the best is to set times to sync every 12 to 24 hours. I use 24 hours and it syncs around 2 a.m. while I am sleeping. To get your phone on a schedule like this, stay up to the wee hours of the morning or until you know for sure that you will be at home at the time for the sync to occur. When the time is right, go through the Manage Accounts and through each of your accounts and sync.
There are many other factors that could play a role in your phone not lasting the day. With the newer phones and the 4G capabilities, we should train ourselves and not our batteries. With this it is up to each individual user to ensure that they manage their phones in a proper manner for proper results. I have used an extended battery until i got fed up with not having a case for my phone. Once going back to the stock battery, I had to train myself to manage my phone to ensure that I could last an entire day on one full battery charge.
Contrary to popular belief, giving your Droid Charge some extra juice throughout the day isn't a bad thing. A full uninterrupted charge is best at night but throughout the day it isn't bad to sneak a good 10-15 min charge in. My battery life is amazing with following my routine of things when I use and don't use my phone.
There are several apps that can aid you squeezing the most life out of your battery. Juice Defender is the main one with many options and very customization.
Please let me know if anyone else has any more information on either battery intensive apps or functions and ways to correct them and I will be sure to update this post for everyone. Hope you enjoyed my write up.
~jkbucksot

Whats the point of having this great phone if you have to go through all that?

blueis300 said:
Whats the point of having this great phone if you have to go through all that?
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For me I use it while away from my desk and don't want to take my laptop into the server room. I don't have time to sit at my desk and charge my phone. I am in a work place where there is no cell service.
Go ahead and see how long your battery last without service, your radios will suck it dry within a couple of hours.
Didn't say you have to do all of that, as there are apps to help you achieve it.

A black wallpaper helps too.
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Ive seen other posts like this before. I know you're trying to help but there's no way I would go through all of that to have a smartphone. What kernel are you using? What Rom? I use my phone throughout the day a lot. I can go 10-12 hours with HEAVY use without turning my phone into a dumbphone. Not all of the time but most of the time you are doing something wrong if you're getting 4 hours of heavy phone use. Either that or you're on the wrong Rom/kernel and/or haven't calibrated it correctly. In my opinion, what's the use of even having a smartphone like this if you're going to constantly turn it into a dumbphone?
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Ive seen other posts like this before. I know you're trying to help but there's no way I would go through all of that to have a smartphone. What kernel are you using? What Rom? I use my phone throughout the day a lot. I can go 10-12 hours with HEAVY use without turning my phone into a dumbphone. Not all of the time but most of the time you are doing something wrong if you're getting 4 hours of heavy phone use. Either that or you're on the wrong Rom/kernel and/or haven't calibrated it correctly. In my opinion, what's the use of even having a smartphone like this if you're going to constantly turn it into a dumbphone?
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I haven't had a steady rom/kernel package in the last week. I have been testing Imnuts new infinity1031 build.
Your not turning your "smartphone" into a "dumbphone". You are managing your phone. No one said to completely turn off notifications/app updates (ie weather) on your phone.
When you say that you get 10-12 hours of heavy use, do you mean data use or just sms messaging etc? Also there is no phone out there that can stay connected to 4G using data and last 10-12 hours.
So your heavy use, isn't really heavy...

I agree, I can get two days or whatever on my battery UNTIL I run Sirius Radio online (& I have 4G)
If I listen to the NFL Sirius online channel I can't make it through a standard work day without using a fat extended battery (& it doesn't matter what ROM/modem I'm using)
~John

jkbucksot said:
I haven't had a steady rom/kernel package in the last week. I have been testing Imnuts new infinity1031 build.
Your not turning your "smartphone" into a "dumbphone". You are managing your phone. No one said to completely turn off notifications/app updates (ie weather) on your phone.
When you say that you get 10-12 hours of heavy use, do you mean data use or just sms messaging etc? Also there is no phone out there that can stay connected to 4G using data and last 10-12 hours.
So your heavy use, isn't really heavy...
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I never turn anything off. Data is always left on (4G). When I am at home, I will connect via wifi but when I go to work or church or whatever Im on 4G. I have my notifications set to check every hour (Facebook, twitter, tapatalk, Gmail, weather, and Google plus). I text quite a bit throughout the day. Probably on the phone talking an average of 30 minutes a day. I jump on the browser quite a bit. I read twitter, Facebook, and tapatalk quite a bit throughout the day so screentime is average of about two hours. I listen to music at least an hour or so a day. So, again, consider myself fairly heavy user. It seems like I'm always on my phone.
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Same bosy ad sodk msybe a bit more ecyensive about 7 hours i am comoletely dead i am runnung humble 1.6 looking for a rom kernal package that gets me a bit better than that
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bfitzpatrickd2d said:
Same bosy ad sodk msybe a bit more ecyensive about 7 hours i am comoletely dead i am runnung humble 1.6 looking for a rom kernal package that gets me a bit better than that
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Huh?
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Sorry don't know. About. This. One might have been drinking. This. Time my bad thanks anyway
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I work in a huge metal building, opposite in a 4g area. I've found my 4g radio will drain my battery fast if the 4g signal is low. This is because the phone will keep increasing the power out until it gets good 2-way communication with the tower. If you're using 4g in a good coverage area and have good signal you're probably not going to see the battery drain nearly as much. Personally I use tasker to automatically control the data connection as I move between work and home. I use WiFi at home since its less battery intensive than 4g.

My Mom's GS3 is dying fast. I think it's LTE but I may be wrong.

OK, so my wife and I both have GS3's through T-Mobile and our batteries last very long. I'm a heavy user and get a fully day while my wife is a light user and easily get's two days. My Mom on the other hand has her GS3 through Verizon and her battery is dying in roughly half a day. She is not a heavy user at all. In fact, her old Droid 2 would last longer than her GS3 which really has her frustrated.
I think it may be due to the fact she doesn't get a good 4G signal at work and at home. In fact, she gets 1 bar at work if she's lucky. She also said the phone is constantly bouncing back and forth between 3G and 4G while at work. She took it to Verizon today and they swapped SIM cards to be sure that wasn't the problem. Obviously that didn't work because I'm posting here. I will see her on Thursday and she want's me to look at her phone.
Do you guy's think this is most likely the reason as to why her battery is draining so fast? Also, if it is. Would there be a way I can show her how to disable 4G so her battery lasts longer?

It's most likely 3G and 4G switching back and forth or a rogue app. For to turn off the 4G it can't be done without rooting I'm pretty sure.

No, it's because you have task running. I had the same thing happen to me. If you exit an application by pressing home, the program will continue to run in the background. I had gallery take up 38% of my battery life. If you press the back button, it will FC the application.
Good bye HTC Rezound, hello Galaxy S3!

jrwingate6 said:
OK, so my wife and I both have GS3's through T-Mobile and our batteries last very long. I'm a heavy user and get a fully day while my wife is a light user and easily get's two days. My Mom on the other hand has her GS3 through Verizon and her battery is dying in roughly half a day. She is not a heavy user at all. In fact, her old Droid 2 would last longer than her GS3 which really has her frustrated.
I think it may be due to the fact she doesn't get a good 4G signal at work and at home. In fact, she gets 1 bar at work if she's lucky. She also said the phone is constantly bouncing back and forth between 3G and 4G while at work. She took it to Verizon today and they swapped SIM cards to be sure that wasn't the problem. Obviously that didn't work because I'm posting here. I will see her on Thursday and she want's me to look at her phone.
Do you guy's think this is most likely the reason as to why her battery is draining so fast? Also, if it is. Would there be a way I can show her how to disable 4G so her battery lasts longer?
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I'm on verizon as well and I find that my battery dies extremely fast. Full charge in the morning and by bedtime its just about dead, that's with moderate use. Some things that I have found to help is I generally keep bluetooth, and gps off unless I need either. I keep power saving mode on, and really minimized what Sync's through my accounts.
It's not exactly the answer you were looking for but it should help you until a more long term solution can be figured out.

Does anyone know how to turn 4G off?
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Low tower signal will kill the battery very fast. Frustratingly fast. I have Verizon GS3, have very low signal at work, and I burn 8% battery per hour when phone is idle. With almost no use, my battery is down to 30% by time I go home.
At home I have good tower signal and my battery drops very slow in idle, maybe 1% per hour. At both work and home I have WiFi connected and set to keep WiFi on during sleep always. Therefore I don't think it's data traffic / sync causing the issue. Instead its hyperactive radio hardware or firmware killing itself as it constantly finds/loses tower connection. The only thing I've been able to find to reduce the drain is going into airplane mode... which is obviously a terrible option.
Hope Samsung can improve this self devouring nature in the future!

jrwingate6 said:
Does anyone know how to turn 4G off?
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go to the playstore and download "phone info" open it and go to device information
Swith the " lte/cdma/evdo" into cdma auto (PRL)
I also turn off 4g at work due to weak signal
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I believe its a signal search at where she spends most of her time. At my work the signal is very bad and the phone goes from 100% to 20% in 10 hours without even touching the phone. Now I turn on airplane mode and it never drops the battery.
She can disable the data and find out how much that would save her

First make sure it's not a rogue app by going into Settings -> Battery, your top 2 battery usages should be Screen and Cell Standby. As long as you don't have some random app eating away at your battery then it's definitely signal strength related. Does she have Wi-Fi available at work? If so make sure she connects to it. I have a Verizon S3 and the battery life on this phone is better than any Android phone I've ever owned (and I've had a lot). I leave GPS and Bluetooth on all day and can easily get a full day with mid to heavy usage. The biggest thing would be to get her on Wi-Fi if available. This will stop the phone from constantly trying to poll data off a poor signal and significantly increase battery life. If no Wi-Fi available, then the above post would come into play, Phone Info app and switch into cdma to keep it locked into 3g will help, but only if there's a decent 3g signal. If the 3g signal is weak also, then you're not going to help anything, and she will just need to remember to turn data sync off while she's at work.
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Try switching batteries to see if she has a defective battery. If thats not the case, then make Verizon give her a replacement S3.

Add me to the list of people who think its the signal search in low service areas.. I disabled 4G with the Phone Info app and my phone lasted way longer than before..
Since you pointed out she has a low signal, I wouldn't be surprised if that's the culprit..
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Pagaldesi4life said:
Try switching batteries to see if she has a defective battery. If thats not the case, then make Verizon give her a replacement S3.
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This is what I did, kept the old battery too...then they swapped me for a w S3. My battery is doing much better now.

The5Venomz said:
This is what I did, kept the old battery too...then they swapped me for a w S3. My battery is doing much better now.
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Ahhh so it wasn't the battery itself?
When you got a replacement S3, did you go back to the same store where you had originally purchased them from or tried a different store?

I disabled 4G today at work with my stinky cell signal and my battery nose dived like usual. Therefore, if you have no signal, 3G/4G doesn't seem to matter. The radio hardware will still destroy itself happily.

Anyone know of a widget my Mom could use to disable data completely while she is at work?

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Anyone know of a widget my Mom could use to disable data completely while she is at work?
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Pull the task drawer down and uncheck mobile data. Why do you need a widget?

You might have a system process called "gsiff_daemon" draining the battery. I have that problem and others have reported that process has been draining their battery as well. Or it could be other have mentioned already, signal switching, rogue programs, etc.

Today at work I ran with mobile data off. I still had a really bad battery drain. Therefore the voice 3 g radio must be responsible. Not much we can do about that unless a new firmware comes out.

Another battery tip...
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Today at work I ran with mobile data off. I still had a really bad battery drain. Therefore the voice 3 g radio must be responsible. Not much we can do about that unless a new firmware comes out.
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There's also an option in the settings>developer options to restrict how many processes are running in the background, and to kill an app after leaving it. The only problem I've noticed with the second option is that the fb app won't allow you to post a status, I think because it causes it to start a new activity, which kills the main fb activity when you leave it. But limiting the background stuff seems to have saved some more juice on top of only using 3g.

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There's also an option in the settings>developer options to restrict how many processes are running in the background, and to kill an app after leaving it. The only problem I've noticed with the second option is that the fb app won't allow you to post a status, I think because it causes it to start a new activity, which kills the main fb activity when you leave it. But limiting the background stuff seems to have saved some more juice on top of only using 3g.
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Naw man, at home I have good cell signal and have almost no idle drain. At work I have terrible signal and it drains like nuts. It's not an issue with apps, processes, services, etc.

Batter Saver

Hello, everyone. I have a Photon Q and I LOVE it except for the fact that I go to work with it fully charged and by the time I get out of work, I'm out of battery.
So tell me, forum, what settings have you tweaked to get optimal battery performance?

I turn off wifi, bt, gps, and sync. I am on a factory floor for 12-13 hrs a day & I generally have over 50% left at the end of the day w moderate use.
If you are in an area w poor reception might help to turn off mobile data, or put it in airplane mode temporarily.
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+1 on this. I agree with saint. I turn off mobile data and syncing until I need it. I talk on the phone for almost 6 hrs a day and the battery still lasts about 19hrs.
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I don't disable syncing completely, but I have the Green Power Premium app and have it set to turn data on and sync once every hour or so.

I leave data on, but i turn auto syncing off. bt/wifi/gps are all off as well. I also have it set to underclock when my screen is off.
Check your brightness settings as well. I dont typically leave it on auto because that's a lot higher than i need it to be. Check your battery usage and see what's using the most and it'll help you determine what you need to check.

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Check your brightness settings as well. I dont typically leave it on auto because that's a lot higher than i need it to be. Check your battery usage and see what's using the most and it'll help you determine what you need to check.
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For me, in 'battery usage' it's almost always 60% screen usage. I'm on auto, I guess I'll try some lower screen settings to see if I can improve that...

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Check your brightness settings as well. I dont typically leave it on auto because that's a lot higher than i need it to be.
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Agreed, I keep mine roughly around 10-15% which is fine for me...the only caveat is I have a Smart Action rule to bump it to 100% when in the vehicle dock (mainly because of daytime issues with glare/sun/etc where I need it to be higher, but its getting charged at the same time so its fine then).

I notice a big difference if I stay logged out of facebook. And I cant really give specifics on this, but I have noticed that after installing certain apps, my battery will start draining faster, so I uninstall those if that happens. Also take it off of LTE mode so it is on CDMA only, unless you are sitting in an area where it stays connected to 4g already. I get the best battery life out of my phone when I have a verizon PRL loaded so that its not looking for any other signal but the one I tell it to. Of course you cant do that all the time, I am just giving an example of how much better battery is if the phone isnt looking for something that you know it cant get where you are. Try to think of apps like facebook though that are always checking online for updates. Email programs, and programs like I mentioned that drain the battery, for whatever reason that may be.

Facebook is a hog, and there are so many different things that will auto update or notify you about, I spent a good 30 minutes going through the options looking for all the settings so I could turn them off.
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I notice a big difference if I stay logged out of facebook. And I cant really give specifics on this, but I have noticed that after installing certain apps, my battery will start draining faster, so I uninstall those if that happens. Also take it off of LTE mode so it is on CDMA only, unless you are sitting in an area where it stays connected to 4g already. I get the best battery life out of my phone when I have a verizon PRL loaded so that its not looking for any other signal but the one I tell it to. Of course you cant do that all the time, I am just giving an example of how much better battery is if the phone isnt looking for something that you know it cant get where you are. Try to think of apps like facebook though that are always checking online for updates. Email programs, and programs like I mentioned that drain the battery, for whatever reason that may be.
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I havent messed with any PRLs yet, but i get a strong signal where I'm at. Home and at work for the most part actually. Its crazy cuz my signal strength is a lot better than on my last phone, which likely has to do with the radios. We have plenty of WIMAX coverage around here, but no LTE yet, so I just keep it on CDMA and roll with that.

Found this on the portal, might help w auto brightness: http://velisthoughts.blogspot.com/2012/10/velis-auto-brightness-manual.html?m=1
-Saint