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Hello all,
With how big the buzz is on the new Moto Droid, and how awesome the reviews have been on it so far, I'm hoping the modding community would attack it like a wolf on a sheep.
The question of the day though, is where will the modders conglomerate? It's not a HTC phone, so of course it wouldn't be on XDA (though I wish it was, because the android community here is first class awesome).
Why not create a sister site of XDA called droid-developers.com (or any name really, i wrote this because android-developers.com is taken). We could move all of the android forums and posts over to the sister site (which would definitely save bandwidth here on XDA), and that way the devs can have a one stop area for all android development, not just HTC phones. They could then just create new forums for other phones, like the liquid a1, motorola droid, samsung galaxy, etc..
If we have different sites for different manufacturers, the dev and mod community will be broken apart on different sites, whereas they could all be centrally located on one site.
Having all the android devs in one location not only helps form a community, but it also makes it a one stop location for everything android modding and developing. Others have tried doing so, but each attempt failed because there was no backing. If XDA made the site, it would have the backing of XDA, and with them moving all the current android forums over to the new site, it would be instant 100% backing, as that is where the devs would go for their current projects that are already posted, and any new projects.
As it stands now, there is a different forum for dream/magic, yet a lot of the posts get double posted in each because they are applicable to each. when someone is working on an application, do they choose to put it in the Dream section, Magic section, or Hero section? With it's own complete forum, there could be a general app section, etc..
Lets use an example. The Samsung Galaxy. It was the second android phone released. It's a great phone, but because it's not made by HTC, and therefore has no place on XDA, there is no modding community for it at all. A great device (and really the only one with a good amount of internal storage) has no hopes for the modding future because there is no central location for devs to conglomerate. If it was made by HTC, it would have flourished in the modding community simply because it could be discussed and worked on here at XDA.
The main thing, is they're modding Android, not the specific device. Sure each device has it's own quirks, but Android as a whole is what the topic is about. Why limit it to just HTC phones?
So please, if you agree that this will help the android community, vote in the poll, and voice your opinion by posting in this thread.
Well, as I find the proposal fair enough I've voted yes, but I'm not at all convinced about that domain.
If you intend to move devs from this site (which is well known in the android scene) to a new one, and you use as a reason that this was htc specific, you can't possibly try to name the new site droid-developers in direct reference to a motorola phone.
it wasn't used for a motorola reference. android-developers.com is already taken, as is android-devs.com.
If you have any other suggestions for domain names please post them.
Edit: fixed the first post to reflect what i stated here about the name
Are the mods here not going to create a section for this phone?
There will be no section for The Droid, Galaxy, Cliq, Liquid A1, etc.. because they are not HTC phones. XDA is for HTC phones only.
PCTechNerd said:
There will be no section for The Droid, Galaxy, Cliq, Liquid A1, etc.. because they are not HTC phones. XDA is for HTC phones only.
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Have the mods said this somewhere?
livejamie said:
Have the mods said this somewhere?
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Lol, it's the origins of XDA. Look at all the phones listed on the forum. They're all HTC phones. XDA is another name for an older htc phone. This site was made and is used only for HTC phones.
PCTechNerd said:
There will be no section for The Droid, Galaxy, Cliq, Liquid A1, etc.. because they are not HTC phones. XDA is for HTC phones only.
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then why is there xperia x1
JJbdoggg said:
then why is there xperia x1
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Because the Sony Ericsson Xperia X1 was made by HTC.
How about making an Android section on this forum that has every Android device, HTC or not? Still under the XDA-Developers.com domain though.
PCTechNerd said:
Because the Sony Ericsson Xperia X1 was made by HTC.
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doh should have checked it out
Tawm said:
How about making an Android section on this forum that has every Android device, HTC or not? Still under the XDA-Developers.com domain though.
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That wouldn't work also, as it would make the main site very clustered. the current per phone forum layout is great, and I would hope the new site would maintain the same layout. Each phone definitely needs it's own forum for hardware hacks (like rooting, SPL's, custom ROM's, etc..) but with all Android devices in one place, it's easier for the community to discuss, mod, etc.. from device to device.
you got another yes here. i would like to see all android being supported.
I too would like to see all Android supported. Especially seeings how a lot of the development will apply to most devices.
I personally hope for a new site to offload some traffic. With android coming to more carriers there is bound to be much heavier traffic.
XDA has been invaluable to me since I got my titan a few years back.
As I have been considering the DROID as an upgrade, I would feel much better about that choice knowing it had a great community to support it despite not being an HTC device.
The same could apply to Windows Mobile though. There are great WinMo devices that aren't supported by the xda-dev's. They can only do so much.
I ststed this in another thread. ModMyMoto will have a section for Droid and Cliq. As far as the others Im sure a site such as PPCGeeks will have the other devices covered.
But I wouldnt be chosing a phone based on the presence of a forum. There will always be someone modding a device if it exists, and finding info is easy enough with google.
If all the devices were located on the same forum, you would have all kinds of tardos flashing files to incorrect devices.
If youve been on XDA for a while you know that these conversations come and go. XDA does their thing, they are the big dogs on the block so its not a big deal if it takes another site to fill in the gaps that XDA cant cover.
I post most of my work on alldroid.org because I would like to use that site for software related things and then use XDA for hardware related things for my G1. I think once more non-HTC phones hit the stores there will be a big influx of people looking for a site to mod on and I dont think XDA will be able to support it unless they dramatically change their ways.
Was going through my past subscriptions and I came upon this thread. Oh how the tides have changed
Ahhh this brings back so many memories. It's great to see how much XDA has progressed over the years!
Dear devs,
alquez needs a helping hand and/or a pair of eyes that can help him.
He already more or less knows where the fault lays but he can't get rid of it atm, but the problem is that he can't get help at his section, cause he is the only one who tries to port cyanogen for the wildfire s and all others no nothing about aosp roms.
It's a small device, but it also deserves it to get such a nice ROM and alquez is a good developer, but it's hard to do the whole stuff alone, so pls guys take a look at his current beta and give him a hint or maybe speak to him yourself, any help would be much appreciated
Pls help this small but nice device to get what it deserves
Thx in advance!
Here is the link to his ROM (the link to his source is in his sig)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1226765&page=13
Swyped from my Desire S
Here is what's left to be done:
alquez said:
I need someone to help me with issues, because I don't have time right now, and I don't want the project to be abandoned. Most of them are kernel related.
Few notes:
- The kernel that works with most functions uses the test branch from Drowningchild's fork
- You need to find better wifi drivers (pure android bcm4329 works, but its unstable)
- Camera flash bug, it's really annoing. Someone should try to mess around with unified cm kernel
- the AOSP code i kanged into board-marvel.c is _not-the-best-one_ and it should be cleaned up/changed
- You won't get video playback to work using official htc kernel sources, sou basically, we are forced to use cm7 based kernels, because of aosp style drivers
- files to look at - ls /arch/arm/mach-msm/board-marvel* - someone should correct marvelc andf marvelct too (for ther variants of phone)
I'll resume work ASAP.
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Swyped from my Desire S
I know your trying to get the attention of the developers in this section, I know you've stated this isn't for the Desire S, I know your intentions are right.
But mate seriously. This is not a development thread for the HTC Desire S. This should be in the general section. Lastly you could have even PM'd one of the developers to consider having a look.
zeekiz said:
I know your trying to get the attention of the developers in this section, I know you've stated this isn't for the Desire S, I know your intentions are right.
But mate seriously. This is not a development thread for the HTC Desire S. This should be in the general section. Lastly you could have even PM'd one of the developers to consider having a look.
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I know your right and I already knew it before I opened this thread, but I hope you can forgive me my fault, it wasn't meant bad at all and I also don't wanted to cause any problems with it, I would also understand if the thread would be moved or deleted, I wouldn't be happy about it, but I would understand it^^
If you're really strict the general section also would be the wrong place, cause it's also related to the wrong device, but even if I post there the chance to find someone that maybe wants to help is much less then here, that's why I tried it this way. And I didn't pm any dev, cause atm they got enough to do with ics and I don't wanted that one of them does it cause he/she thinks he/she has to, I was hoping someone who really wants to join can see that there is the need for it.
Also for sure not all devs are that present here every time, with such a thread the chance is higher to reach more of them.
And last but not least our devs are some of the nicest on xda as much as I know, that's also a reason why I made it here and not anywhere else.
Swyped from my Desire S
Feel your pain. The desire s was like that months ago. However, the desire s still doesn't have many developers, especially kernel devs. You may find help here and kudos if you do but you may get better luck asking devs in the desire HD forums.
Sorry I couldn't help
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dan-fish said:
Feel your pain. The desire s was like that months ago. However, the desire s still doesn't have many developers, especially kernel devs. You may find help here and kudos if you do but you may get better luck asking devs in the desire HD forums.
Sorry I couldn't help
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First off all thx for the hint
I know that, I've seen it myself, unfortunately you used the app to answer, otherwise you would have seen my sig^^
But the big plus the desire s got is the better hardware, the wildfire s is somehow as old as the desire s, but cause of the weaker cpu, the smaller ram & rom size there are much less developers.
I know we haven't as much as others, but we got great devs like superkid, nexx, cayniarb, just to name a few and i'm sure there are many more 'at the underground'^^
At desire HD forum are as much as i know great developers, but not really nice guys, that's what i meant that our devs (the desire s devs) are some of the nicest on xda. And cause of this i was hoping it maybe would be easier to find someone here.
But anyway i will also try it at the desire hd forum, maybe i even can keep my head there^^
Try to contact Nexx, Caynarib or SuperKid.
I didn't know if i should post this here or on the Devlopment forum but here goes.
I know it'll probably be FOREVER before AT&T releases the ICS update for our devices, if it happens at all. Because of this i rooted my phone and am running Ice Cold Sandwich from Lord Clockan in the forums.
I see that theres been a lot of work in the DHD and Inspire Dev forums on porting One V version of sense and ICS to the Inspire.
Since i'm not a dev I know this question may sound stupid, but would it not be easier to try and port the Vivid ICS and Sense version to the Inspire since it's already been officially released and working? Or would this be too difficult because of the difference in screen size 4.3 vs 4.5?
If screen size matters what about a Sensation port?
If these questions come off as stupid please forgive my ignorance i'm just a curious user.
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I didn't know if i should post this here or on the Devlopment forum but here goes.
I know it'll probably be FOREVER before AT&T releases the ICS update for our devices, if it happens at all. Because of this i rooted my phone and am running Ice Cold Sandwich from Lord Clockan in the forums.
I see that theres been a lot of work in the DHD and Inspire Dev forums on porting One V version of sense and ICS to the Inspire.
Since i'm not a dev I know this question may sound stupid, but would it not be easier to try and port the Vivid ICS and Sense version to the Inspire since it's already been officially released and working? Or would this be too difficult because of the difference in screen size 4.3 vs 4.5?
If screen size matters what about a Sensation port?
If these questions come off as stupid please forgive my ignorance i'm just a curious user.
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Please do a search for your answers before you post a question like this as its been discussed nearly 312312 times. The bottom line is this: AT&T is not releasing ICS to the Inspire. However, the Desire is going to get it. This means that when the desire does get it, the devs will have the PROPER source to build off of. So no, you can't port an official ICS ROM from the Vivid or any other device other then the Desire because there will be issues from the source all the way to the drivers and beyond. So what does that mean for us, well that means that we get alpha and beta releases of ICS until the devs get the correct code to fix some of the issues in their ROMs.
MMM-BACONSTRIPS said:
Please do a search for your answers before you post a question like this as its been discussed nearly 312312 times. The bottom line is this: AT&T is not releasing ICS to the Inspire. However, the Desire is going to get it. This means that when the desire does get it, the devs will have the PROPER source to build off of. So no, you can't port an official ICS ROM from the Vivid or any other device other then the Desire because there will be issues from the source all the way to the drivers and beyond. So what does that mean for us, well that means that we get alpha and beta releases of ICS until the devs get the correct code to fix some of the issues in their ROMs.
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I already knew everything you posted. Nothing you've said really answers the question I posted.
I'm not complaining about AT&T not releasing it. Very far from it actually since i'm using a stable ICS ROM.
Contrary to popular belief the Search Forum / Topic function does not work as well as everyone thinks it did. I tried searching using various key words and it all just brought me to the Vivid forum which obviously is not where I want to be.
In your unnecessary rant you say "So no, you can't port an official ICS ROM from the Vivid or any other device other then the Desire because there will be issues from the source all the way to the drivers and beyond." which is obviously BS considering in my OP I mention the fact that Devs are currently porting ICS and Sense from the HTC One V for the DHD / Inspire. So not only are they taking the OS and Skin from a different device and porting it to ours, but they're getting it from a device that has not yet even been released to the public.
Would someone else like to answer my question original question without being a "do a search" nazi?
I would imagine that if the Vivid or Sensation ROMs were a viable option to port to the Inspire, then one of the genius devs here would have already thought of it.
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I already knew everything you posted. Nothing you've said really answers the question I posted.
I'm not complaining about AT&T not releasing it. Very far from it actually since i'm using a stable ICS ROM.
Contrary to popular belief the Search Forum / Topic function does not work as well as everyone thinks it did. I tried searching using various key words and it all just brought me to the Vivid forum which obviously is not where I want to be.
In your unnecessary rant you say "So no, you can't port an official ICS ROM from the Vivid or any other device other then the Desire because there will be issues from the source all the way to the drivers and beyond." which is obviously BS considering in my OP I mention the fact that Devs are currently porting ICS and Sense from the HTC One V for the DHD / Inspire. So not only are they taking the OS and Skin from a different device and porting it to ours, but they're getting it from a device that has not yet even been released to the public.
Would someone else like to answer my question original question without being a "do a search" nazi?
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buttmaddddd? lolol. Senior members get butt hurt. Indirectly quoting me in other threads. Troll on. Follow the rules of xda and there are no problems. If you take exception with me and how I answer questions please feel free to get buttmadd and send me a PM so it can settled outside of this thread and other threads. I answered your question. There was no rant. The only rant I see here is yours and this one right here. So please keep your troll comments to yourself and out other threads. My original answer is valid and answers your question. I'm sorry it wasn't technical enough or straight from the mouths of a mod or dev, which seems to be what you wanted.
They're already porting it from the sensation XL which is closer to the inspires hardware, move along
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Because porting a qHD Rom with a wholly different SoC is hard.
I have been looking all over forums to find a ROM dedicated to getting the maximum power and FPS out of our device but no luck. I have seen dedicated ROMs for other similar phones but none for ours. If there is one please let me know or if there is any developer who'd be happy porting one to our device, I'd be happy to test!
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So as many of you have already noticed by the many threads here on xda, htc has officially cancelled any type of software update to the awesome htc one s which is really disappointing considered this phone is capable of handling basically anything you can throw at it imo. That being said I personally am annoyed because I refused to root or use custom roms up until htc stopped ota updates support completely and so that day has come.I want to greet all the members and devs here on the htc one s forums and thank you all because with your wisdom and experiences as well as the latest and greatest custom roms kernal etc are only possible by you guys and so this phone will never die and will live on still competing against the latest and greatest phones. So yea sorry for the long rant but welcome another htc one s brother into the club :laugh:. BTW anyone recommend some of the best roms and kernals that are the most stable I would greatly appreciate it so much thank you and long live the htc one s!!!!!:good::good::good::good:
what's the point of making a new thread to say this? It's just like spam... There is a thank button for a reason
2nd it's against xda rules to use comparison forums, test urself and make ur opinion
k1llacanon said:
what's the point of making a new thread to say this? It's just like spam... There is a thank button for a reason
2nd it's against xda rules to use comparison forums, test urself and make ur opinion
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Well hey there I can assure you I am no spam bot just wanted to say hi to fellow members If it bothered you so much why did you post? Just read and move on
2nd I am in no way shape or form comparing roms just asking for opinions from member so I can flash by recommendation that is all no need to be sour and hostile
no need to be sour and hostile 
Youll unfortunately find a lot of response like that. Welcome .
Read a lot and search . Lots of good info
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Thread closed. Asking for best ROMs or ROM comparisons is not allowed. Furthermore, there is already another thread about the One S not getting any updates, so use that.