I went through the process developed by Ashyx to root the Boost Mobile of the SM-J727P. So far so good. Attempting to debloat this ohone results in system apps reinstalling themselves. Is there a way to disable write protection or is there a process I need to know about?
Virgin mobile galaxy J727P
davidw.roggenkamp said:
I went through the process developed by Ashyx to root the Boost Mobile of the SM-J727P. So far so good. Attempting to debloat this ohone results in system apps reinstalling themselves. Is there a way to disable write protection or is there a process I need to know about?
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Use root eplorer to delete the apps from system file's !
davidw.roggenkamp said:
I went through the process developed by Ashyx to root the Boost Mobile of the SM-J727P. So far so good. Attempting to debloat this ohone results in system apps reinstalling themselves. Is there a way to disable write protection or is there a process I need to know about?
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check that auto update isn't selected in Playstore too
The apps are probably in the Preload(hidden) partition.
They are. System/apps, system/priv-apps and also data/apps are the 3 directories that I have uninstalled the bloat from and so far nothing has reinstalled itself.
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Just letting everyone know of a tool I wrote for both rooted and non-rooted(KitKat) devices. So if your running 4.4.x you can still block all applications even from receiving updates, etc.. Most other apps will not even show the applications in their lists once the tool is run against your device. It is completely safe and will not trip Knox, etc..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294
Leave all questions, suggestions, etc. in the thread above.
gatesjunior said:
Just letting everyone know of a tool I wrote for both rooted and non-rooted(KitKat) devices. So if your running 4.4.x you can still block all applications even from receiving updates, etc.. Most other apps will not even show the applications in their lists once the tool is run against your device. It is completely safe and will not trip Knox, etc..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294
Leave all questions, suggestions, etc. in the thread above.
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This has already been done:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2792478
Unless you have a script that is lollipop specific (not done yet...) your tool is redundant and less than useful.
RBThompsonV said:
This has already been done:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2792478
Unless you have a script that is lollipop specific (not done yet...) your tool is redundant and less than useful.
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My application is far from a script. It is a full application that will work with any release if rooted. If not rooted, it will work native with KitKat, It will also remove all associated data as well with removal, if rooted, and supports Xposed framework as well.
so its pc software to disable system apps? why not just disable them on the device?
either way, nice work (i do not know how to make a exe lol)
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elliwigy said:
so its pc software to disable system apps? why not just disable them on the device?
either way, nice work (i do not know how to make a exe lol)
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Thank you. Well, it doesn't just disable apps. Also, most apps you cannot disable on the device without installing some more apps to do it on the device. I am a person who likes less apps on my device. So when I was building this, I thought, do I want to install something to remove something on my device ? Agree to all the access privileges, take up more space, etc ?? So I wrote this.. It will also remove apps and delete all associated data with the app. if rooted. Allow people to share blocked lists and allow you to import and export blocked and unblocked lists as well as many other things.
gatesjunior said:
Thank you. Well, it doesn't just disable apps. Also, most apps you cannot disable on the device without installing some more apps to do it on the device. I am a person who likes less apps on my device. So when I was building this, I thought, do I want to install something to remove something on my device ? Agree to all the access privileges, take up more space, etc ?? So I wrote this.. It will also remove apps and delete all associated data with the app. if rooted. Allow people to share blocked lists and allow you to import and export blocked and unblocked lists as well as many other things.
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yea, options are always good.. i for one would rather have a rom without the bloat to begin with lol. you can disable most system apps without root in the application manager so you only need to install lets say tibu on rooted devices to remove them but to me tibu is essential for any rom
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elliwigy said:
yea, options are always good.. i for one would rather have a rom without the bloat to begin with lol. you can disable most system apps without root in the application manager so you only need to install lets say tibu on rooted devices to remove them but to me tibu is essential for any rom
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Been there. A lot of users want stock though.
I want to have fb messenger in ultra power saving mode (UPSM). for that i need to use the UPSM Manager app which requires root. I really do not like to root, because more and more apps are blocking rooted devices (Barclays banking, android pay, pokemon go). So I am asking if there exists some methods for gaining temp root (e.g. with adb). so i can install and use upsm-m once and then reboot and root is gone. It is important that the flag is not flipping.
Thank you for all your help
Shiro
Nope, and even if you could, the app would fail as soon as root was removed
*Detection* said:
Nope, and even if you could, the app would fail as soon as root was removed
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I expected that, on my old htcs there were temp roots available.
But the failing of the app after removing root, is not a problem. The app is just a configfile creator. Since the config file has changed, the app is not needed anymore.
So I rooted Nougat, 930U variant (Snapdragon), and now I can't disable any system apps. BK Disabler, Titanium Backup, 3C Toolbox, App Quarantine -- I tried them all , and none of them will disable anything. What am I doing wrong? I confirmed root is good and those apps a granted access through SU...
Use a root tool like this?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jumobile.manager.systemapp&hl=en_GB
*Detection* said:
Use a root tool like this?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jumobile.manager.systemapp&hl=en_GB
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Yep I tried that one too, and App Quarantine. They don't successfully disable anything. And turns out I can't get BusyBox installed either. I don't know what's going on LOL
Update: re-rooted and fixed it. I was using an older version of the root.bat.
Good stuff :good:
Hey guys,
I'm on OOS, rooted with TWRP and I want to uninstall Duo, Youtube Music, Drive and all this other pre-installed crap-apps.
TitaniumBackup does not work anymore (it fails to locate the apks when you click "uninstall") and the often quoted "uninstall system apps with adb"-method just removes the app from user space while it actually remains installed on the device in the root directory and keeps wasting space. So this method does not actually remove apps, it just sorta deactivates them in another way.
So, is there any known method to remove system apps?
Read up on how to use adb commands.. quite simple..
pm uninstall --user 0 package.name.example
You do need a laptop, it you don't have one this app is great... https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.draco.ladb
lilbrat said:
Read up on how to use adb commands.. quite simple..
pm uninstall --user 0 package.name.example
You do need a laptop, it you don't have one this app is great... https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.draco.ladb
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it is not for android 7 (i'm using android 7)
ai.Sanaul said:
it is not for android 7 (i'm using android 7)
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ADB still works .. or since your on 7 try this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jumobile.manager.systemapp.pro.
Wait you weren't the original poster... But since he has TWRP installed he could just use the file manager and delete the files from there..
lilbrat said:
ADB still works .. or since your on 7 try this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jumobile.manager.systemapp.pro.
Wait you weren't the original poster... But since he has TWRP installed he could just use the file manager and delete the files from there..
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and this is an alternative of Bloatware Remover app
but thanks for help i will try
lilbrat said:
Read up on how to use adb commands.. quite simple..
pm uninstall --user 0 package.name.example
You do need a laptop, it you don't have one this app is great... https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.draco.ladb
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As I've already written.. It does NOT really actually remove the apps from the device:
How to uninstall carrier/OEM bloatware without root access
If you want to get rid of carrier/OEM apps from your phone, here's how you can uninstall bloatware from your device without root access!
www.xda-developers.com
[...] applications truly aren’t fully uninstalled from your device. They are just being uninstalled for the current user (user 0 is the default/main user of the phone). [...]
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lilbrat said:
ADB still works .. or since your on 7 try this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jumobile.manager.systemapp.pro.
Wait you weren't the original poster... But since he has TWRP installed he could just use the file manager and delete the files from there..
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Thanks, but according to my knowledge this cannot work either since the app does not require root access. And you cannot uninstall system apps without having root. It probably just follows an adb-like approach.
lilbrat said:
ADB still works .. or since your on 7 try this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jumobile.manager.systemapp.pro.
Wait you weren't the original poster... But since he has TWRP installed he could just use the file manager and delete the files from there..
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That TWRP method sounds promising. Do you happen to know if all app related files are in one place or are they spread accross several folders?
haitower said:
That TWRP method sounds promising. Do you happen to know if all app related files are in one place or are they spread accross several folders?
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Now with all due respect, you asked for a suggestion on how to remove the apps, they were given to you, you used every reason why not to use them... Have you even tried the various methods or just "read" about them ? Trying out the methods given then verifying through TWRP file manager would be nice learning experience once you "read " up and tinker with TWRP's file manager and different file locations...
But please make a backup before you start and have necessary programs handy in case you remove the wrong file... as it can really ruin your day..
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Now with all due respect, you asked for a suggestion on how to remove the apps, they were given to you, you used every reason why not to use them... Have you even tried the various methods or just "read" about them ? Trying out the methods given then verifying through TWRP file manager would be nice learning experience once you "read " up and tinker with TWRP's file manager and different file locations...
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It is simply NOT possible to uninstall system apps without root access. Thats why neither the adb method nor the other suggested app from questionable source can even work in theory. If it were otherwise, you would have found a major flaw in the android system, which, with all due respect, I doubt a tiny little bit.
You could also suggest to swim in a muddy pond for two days and look if this removed the system apps. But I hope you understand that I won't try that approach either because I prefer to not waste my time.
But thanks anyway for the TWRP idea, I'll look into that.
@haitower here's a Magisk module I use to remove a fair number of system apps. See the REPLACE variable in customize.sh
Use the magisk module "debloater". When you are done removing apps (don't really remove) just export the file. It will make text file in your storage. Then if you want to re-install any of the apps just reopen the app and import the file.
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Hey guys,
I'm on OOS, rooted with TWRP and I want to uninstall Duo, Youtube Music, Drive and all this other pre-installed crap-apps.
TitaniumBackup does not work anymore (it fails to locate the apks when you click "uninstall") and the often quoted "uninstall system apps with adb"-method just removes the app from user space while it actually remains installed on the device in the root directory and keeps wasting space. So this method does not actually remove apps, it just sorta deactivates them in another way.
So, is there any known method to remove system apps?
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Maybe @BillGoss will help to clarify things a bit.
As far as i understand. On 8T (or better to say from Android 10 and latter) /system partition is read only and furthermore is located inside Super partition.
I suppose even with root access you will not be able to directly uninstall system apps without remounting /system/ as writable.
From Magisk manual we can learn that:
Since / is read-only on system-as-root devices, Magisk provides an overlay system to enable developers to replace files in rootdir or add new *.rc scripts. This feature is designed mostly for custom kernel developers.
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For each module, the folder $MODPATH/system will be recursively merged into the real /system; that is: existing files in the real system will be replaced by the one in modules’ system, and new files in modules’ system will be added to the real system.
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So as Magisk overlays modules /system folder to actual system with debloater module blank files android "thinks" those files specified in MODPATH/system don't exist.
Though a presume, in reality they are there.
So is magisk solutions really delete files from /system and not just "hide" them from Android?
haitower said:
Hey guys,
I'm on OOS, rooted with TWRP and I want to uninstall Duo, Youtube Music, Drive and all this other pre-installed crap-apps.
TitaniumBackup does not work anymore (it fails to locate the apks when you click "uninstall") and the often quoted "uninstall system apps with adb",method just removes the app from user space while it actually remains installed on the device in the root directory and keeps wasting space. So this method does not actually remove apps, it just sorta deactivates them in another way.
So, is there any known method to remove system apps?
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For Xiaomi phones, first install the “Hidden Settings for MIUI” app.
1. Open “Hidden Settings for MIUI.”
2. Go to “Manage applications” and find the application you want to disable.
3. Tap on the “Disable” button.
BillGoss said:
@haitower here's a Magisk module I use to remove a fair number of system apps. See the REPLACE variable in customize.sh
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Thank you, very reasonable and necessary.
I am having a problem to fully delete an system app on android.
I tried to delete the Netflix app on an android car radio. Because the app was already pre-installed I think it´s a system app. Then I tried to remove it using adb with powershell. It said that the app was removed, but was still visible in the system processes on the radio. Any ideas except rooting the system?
You can't fully delete system apps without root. You can disable them only
TheMadScientist said:
You can't fully delete system apps without root. You can disable them only
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Thanks. So I need to root my device and remove the app using su rights?
NettyExploit said:
Thanks. So I need to root my device and remove the app using su rights?
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That or magisk. Non root only allows for adb pm disable. They are still on the device. Just not running
TheMadScientist said:
That or magisk. Non root only allows for adb pm disable. They are still on the device. Just not running
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Okay, that´s the reason it says Success after removing the app.
Just for my understanding magisk just root the system and then I have to remove the app manual or is there an option within the app to remove system apps
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Okay, that´s the reason it says Success after removing the app.
Just for my understanding magisk just root the system and then I have to remove the app manual or is there an option within the app to remove system apps
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Either a system app remover app. Or if you know what your doing Amy root file explorer. You can individually remove each apk and coincided files
TheMadScientist said:
Either a system app remover app. Or if you know what your doing Amy root file explorer. You can individually remove each apk and coincided files
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Thanks, any recommendations for an system app remover?
System apps are those that belong to Android, means Android will not properly work if deleted. Hence not stupidly delete apps stored in partition /system.
jwoegerbauer said:
System apps are those that belong to Android, means Android will not properly work if deleted. Hence not stupidly delete apps stored in partition /system.
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Netflix belongs to Android?
NettyExploit said:
Netflix belongs to Android?
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NO, by type it's an ordinary user app installed as system-privileged app, hence it's located in /system/priv-app, the partition OEMs store the bloatware.
jwoegerbauer said:
NO, by type it's an ordinary user app installed as system-privileged app, hence it's located in /system/priv-app.
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Okay, but in this case it´s not system critical to remove it?
All apps in /system/priv-app can safely get deleted / removed, so also Netflix.
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All apps in /system/priv-app can safely get deleted / removed, so also Netflix.
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Thank you for that hint. Do you got any idea for an app that removes such apps?