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[List] Apps that break android pay

I have been trying to find a way to keep root and Android pay. Some apps, while they are granted root privileges, break android pay.
I don't have a large list. But as of now, the apps cause my device to fail the SafetyNet check are:
Titanium Backup
Root explorer
Ex kernel manager
It seems that it only breaks pay when these apps are actively using root. "Killing" the apps send to make my device pass the check.
As people comment I'll update the list.

I'm using EX Kernel Manager with systemless root, and Android Pay still works for me.

EXkernel manager doesn't break it.
Greenify definitely breaks it.
adaway breaks it unless you flash the systemless hosts zip file prior to installing/applying it
root features of nova launcher don't break it
wakelock detector does not break it

Using Titanium backup, Root explorer, ex kernel mngr, and adaway 3.01 I think no different install methods, clean install yesterday. First time using systemless root. AP worked today at Walgreen's.

*system error* said:
Using Titanium backup, Root explorer, ex kernel mngr, and adaway 3.01 I think no different install methods, clean install yesterday. First time using systemless root. AP worked today at Walgreen's.
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Same.
Apps don't break Android Pay, the method on how you root does.

2x4 said:
EXkernel manager doesn't break it.
Greenify definitely breaks it.
adaway breaks it unless you flash the systemless hosts zip file prior to installing/applying it
root features of nova launcher don't break it
wakelock detector does not break it
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I'm also using Greenify and Adaway. Neither has broken Android Pay.

I'm using Titanium Backup, EX Kernel Manager, Root Explorer, and AdAway as well. Android Pay works fine.

Successfully using all those apps, including Greenify (missing the xposed module though). Not a problem with AP, have used it about 4 times in the past week.

Quick update to all. I've noticed that when some of my apps are open, they cause the "SafetyNet helper" to fail. That's why I say it "breaks" it.
AP till works for me. But it can be spotty if I just opened a root app

Must be a really long line and you're backing up apps, searching for a file, or changing your color profile while waiting to tap.
Edit: OK I had AP fail last night when I unlocked my phone eBay was opened up. Apparently I just locked my phone. closed out eBay and chrome popped up from my last tab. Got to my home screen and AP was good to go.

S7 temp root for UPSM manager

I want to have fb messenger in ultra power saving mode (UPSM). for that i need to use the UPSM Manager app which requires root. I really do not like to root, because more and more apps are blocking rooted devices (Barclays banking, android pay, pokemon go). So I am asking if there exists some methods for gaining temp root (e.g. with adb). so i can install and use upsm-m once and then reboot and root is gone. It is important that the flag is not flipping.
Thank you for all your help
Shiro

Nope, and even if you could, the app would fail as soon as root was removed

*Detection* said:
Nope, and even if you could, the app would fail as soon as root was removed
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I expected that, on my old htcs there were temp roots available.
But the failing of the app after removing root, is not a problem. The app is just a configfile creator. Since the config file has changed, the app is not needed anymore.

App "PhotoTAN Raiffeisen Schweiz" on rooted devices

If you don't know what the app "PhotoTAN Raiffeisen Schweiz" than this is probably not interesting for you.
I'm just writing this to confirm that the aforementioned app can be run on rooted devices. First I tried several of the root hiding apps in the market, but for all I tried, the app still detected root and deleted the credentials.
The next thing I tried was suhide which left my Tab S2 (T810, 6.0.1, rooted) in a boot loop.
I ended up trying Xposed with RootCloak (Xposed Guide for S7: http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...-to-notes-root-install-xposed-unroot-t3411039). Installing Xposed using FlashFire didn't work for me, so I copied the zip to the external sd and installed using TWRP. In Xposed I installed RootCloak and added the app to the apps root should be hidden from.
After a restart, I can now use the app without an issue and I can also backup/restore the credentials using TitaniumBackup.
I hope, this helps someone and I hope the devs of the app don't read this and fix the app.

Using Titanium Backup I also detached the app from the market, so I'll not get automatic updates.

This app is the BANE of my existence!

Hello fellow android users, just got a new phone today! I went ahead and rooted it and whatnot got it all customized to my likings. Went to remove some pesky bloatware but ran in the notorious MyMetro App. I cannot remove this app. Ive tried every method i know of. ADB shell gives me "Failure [not installed for 0]". System app remove gives me "failure". Titanium backup gives me "cannot locate APK". I tried manually removing the apk through a root file browser and the apk is INVINCIBLE. Is there some other method i could use? Never in my life have i ran into bloatware i could not uninstall. tips?

CorporalCactus said:
Hello fellow android users, just got a new phone today! I went ahead and rooted it and whatnot got it all customized to my likings. Went to remove some pesky bloatware but ran in the notorious MyMetro App. I cannot remove this app. Ive tried every method i know of. ADB shell gives me "Failure [not installed for 0]". System app remove gives me "failure". Titanium backup gives me "cannot locate APK". I tried manually removing the apk through a root file browser and the apk is INVINCIBLE. Is there some other method i could use? Never in my life have i ran into bloatware i could not uninstall. tips?
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There is a debloater module for Magisk:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/module-terminal-debloater-debloat-t3584163

johnjingle said:
There is a debloater module for Magisk:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/module-terminal-debloater-debloat-t3584163
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yep i used it, this one app in particular is still there even after a reboot

CorporalCactus said:
yep i used it, this one app in particular is still there even after a reboot
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That's weird. Maybe, download and flash a retail firmware from lolinet which wouldn't include that app?

Question Can't remove system apps

I'm trying to run vanced YouTube on my pixel 7 Pro. Vanced manager manager still working on my op9pro...but I need to delete all remnants of the stock YouTube app from my device.
I'm unlocked and rooted. Titanium backup shows the error "can't locate APK". I'm trying to do it manually with root explorer. The YouTube and YouTube music APKs are located in /product/app/YouTube. I cannot delete these files and root explorer won't allow me to change the permissions of these folders. I also tried adb but that just hides them, I need to remove any and all files associated with the stock YouTube system app.
Anyone have any ideas? I'm not looking to hide these apps, I'm looking to permanently remove them from the phone.

Pain-N-Panic said:
I'm trying to run vanced YouTube on my pixel 7 Pro. Vanced manager manager still working on my op9pro...but I need to delete all remnants of the stock YouTube app from my device.
I'm unlocked and rooted. Titanium backup shows the error "can't locate APK". I'm trying to do it manually with root explorer. The YouTube and YouTube music APKs are located in /product/app/YouTube. I cannot delete these files and root explorer won't allow me to change the permissions of these folders. I also tried adb but that just hides them, I need to remove any and all files associated with the stock YouTube system app.
Anyone have any ideas? I'm not looking to hide these apps, I'm looking to permanently remove them from the phone.
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[SOLVED] Revanced working?
Did anyone try installing revanced manager on the P7P? Get it working? I installed the manager and it doesn't seem to see when I patch the youtube apk. It goes through the process of patching the youtube apk. I installed using non-root methods...
forum.xda-developers.com

@rester555, @EtherealRemnant, and some others got it working well enough....and I don't think they had to go through the trouble of deleting "all remnants" of the stock app. You might be used to a bit of an outdated method or particular to your previous device method because I believe it's been a long time since you had to remove the stock app to get it to work -- at the very least on my Pixel 5 A11 rooted, I used Vanced manager and it would merely overwrite/replace my stock app; I just had to make sure to turn off auto-update as Google would insist on re-installing/updating it back to stock...
In any case, the thread below is where a bunch of them got it to work well enough on the P7P (without the need to remove the stock app, i believe)
[SOLVED] Revanced working?
Did anyone try installing revanced manager on the P7P? Get it working? I installed the manager and it doesn't seem to see when I patch the youtube apk. It goes through the process of patching the youtube apk. I installed using non-root methods...
forum.xda-developers.com
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Sorry for re-iterating what netgar posted. He got his post in before while I was still drafting mine...

Just disable the app. You can do it natively. Go like you're going to uninstall the app and you'll see disable.

I did disable it. Only problem now is I can't install an older YouTube APK from APK mirror in order to patch it with revanced lol. Phone is giving me an error when I try to install an older version of YouTube.

Pain-N-Panic said:
I did disable it. Only problem now is I can't install an older YouTube APK from APK mirror in order to patch it with revanced lol. Phone is giving me an error when I try to install an older version of YouTube.
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I literally installed ReVanced yesterday. All I did was disable YouTube, build with ReVanced Builder, install micro G, and install the patched APK.

EtherealRemnant said:
I literally installed ReVanced yesterday. All I did was disable YouTube, build with ReVanced Builder, install micro G, and install the patched APK.
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I'm not using revanced builder. I'm trying to use the manager app on my phone. Maybe I'll try the builder instead

EtherealRemnant said:
I literally installed ReVanced yesterday. All I did was disable YouTube, build with ReVanced Builder, install micro G, and install the patched APK.
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Pain-N-Panic said:
I'm not using revanced builder. I'm trying to use the manager app on my phone. Maybe I'll try the builder instead
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I'm not familiar with using the builder, but I saw EtherealRemnant have success with it, so that's why I @'d him. Glad he/it helped!

I got it working. Although I'm rooted, I had to use the non root method with microg in order to get it working

Even though I got it working, I'm still kind of pissed I can't delete certain system apps off my device. Huge reasoning for rooting in the first place is to have ultimate control over my device. Can anyone shed some light on why I can't remove certain system apps or provide a working method to do so?

Just did the "Install as root" option and it installed just fine. I did uninstall all updates followed by installing apk of recommended version with no issues on my end

Pain-N-Panic said:
Even though I got it working, I'm still kind of pissed I can't delete certain system apps off my device. Huge reasoning for rooting in the first place is to have ultimate control over my device. Can anyone shed some light on why I can't remove certain system apps or provide a working method to do so?
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Root these days is systemless. The best you can do is disable apps or uninstall them from your user profile with adb.

Pain-N-Panic said:
Even though I got it working, I'm still kind of pissed I can't delete certain system apps off my device. Huge reasoning for rooting in the first place is to have ultimate control over my device. Can anyone shed some light on why I can't remove certain system apps or provide a working method to do so?
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Have you tried uninstalling via ADB

Pain-N-Panic said:
Even though I got it working, I'm still kind of pissed I can't delete certain system apps off my device. Huge reasoning for rooting in the first place is to have ultimate control over my device. Can anyone shed some light on why I can't remove certain system apps or provide a working method to do so?
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EtherealRemnant said:
Root these days is systemless. The best you can do is disable apps or uninstall them from your user profile with adb.
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i know it's old and EOL, but can't Titanium Backup "freeze" system apps? It's been a while (years), so I'm working off of memory and just basing it off of what I kinda remember and can't be too sure...

Open a Command Terminal, grant root access by typing "su"
This command works for me to delete system apps (youtube for example):
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.google.android.youtube
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.google.android.apps.youtube.music

Have you tried that one?
[MODULE][Terminal] Debloater v17.3.2 - Debloat Systemlessly!
[TERMINAL] DEBLOATER Debloat your phone Systemlessly! Debloating can sometimes be device specific. OEM apps can sometimes be a trash to a user but not to the other. So I decided to make a module to Customize the uninstallation of a system app...
forum.xda-developers.com

netgar said:
Have you tried that one?
[MODULE][Terminal] Debloater v17.3.2 - Debloat Systemlessly!
[TERMINAL] DEBLOATER Debloat your phone Systemlessly! Debloating can sometimes be device specific. OEM apps can sometimes be a trash to a user but not to the other. So I decided to make a module to Customize the uninstallation of a system app...
forum.xda-developers.com
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I'll look into it, thank youv

simplepinoi177 said:
i know it's old and EOL, but can't Titanium Backup "freeze" system apps? It's been a while (years), so I'm working off of memory and just basing it off of what I kinda remember and can't be too sure...
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I don't know if it works on A13 but that's what I used to use on my OP9 to freeze apps, yeah.

EtherealRemnant said:
I don't know if it works on A13 but that's what I used to use on my OP9 to freeze apps, yeah.
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TiBu still works. I'm using it currently. Does a fine job of disabling or freezing system apps as needed.