I want to have fb messenger in ultra power saving mode (UPSM). for that i need to use the UPSM Manager app which requires root. I really do not like to root, because more and more apps are blocking rooted devices (Barclays banking, android pay, pokemon go). So I am asking if there exists some methods for gaining temp root (e.g. with adb). so i can install and use upsm-m once and then reboot and root is gone. It is important that the flag is not flipping.
Thank you for all your help
Shiro
Nope, and even if you could, the app would fail as soon as root was removed
*Detection* said:
Nope, and even if you could, the app would fail as soon as root was removed
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I expected that, on my old htcs there were temp roots available.
But the failing of the app after removing root, is not a problem. The app is just a configfile creator. Since the config file has changed, the app is not needed anymore.
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I have a certain app that I need to use that will not run on a rooted device. My root app is SuperSU, and by disabling superuser in the settings the app will run, but I can't make it work without disabling it. It doesn't even give me a prompt to ask for root permission - the app must just be looking somewhere for the su binary or something.
Is there a way to make an app think that a device is unrooted without disabling root access?
mewmew! said:
I have a certain app that I need to use that will not run on a rooted device. My root app is SuperSU, and by disabling superuser in the settings the app will run, but I can't make it work without disabling it. It doesn't even give me a prompt to ask for root permission - the app must just be looking somewhere for the su binary or something.
Is there a way to make an app think that a device is unrooted without disabling root access?
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Xposed framework with Root Cloak module. It doesn't always work, but it often does, so give that a try.
I tried to root my device "Infinix Hot" Which apparently has the same build as HTC devices using KingoRoot
5 min after i plugged my device to my pc and had usb debugging on and kingoroot installing drivers it displayed a message "Root success"
But i noticed that my device didn't reboot during the process , which goes against what i have read..........
So i rebooted it manually , and now i have an app called "KingoUser" that i can only disable but not uninstall even if i factory reset( I tried ) ....... But with no root access
I tried many root checking apps and they all displayed that i didn't have root access but i have SU installed
Can someone explain what is going on please?
And can someone please tell me if i can remove this "KingoUser"
Which doesn't appear to have any uses
When i open it all what's there is just a white page with only links to Kingo Websites
royboody said:
Which doesn't appear to have any uses
When i open it all what's there is just a white page with only links to Kingo Websites
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Try downloading ES file browser and enable root feature, see if you have root...
You never even get a toast notification from kinguser asking if you want to grant permissions??
Newyork! said:
Try downloading ES file browser and enable root feature, see if you have root...
You never even get a toast notification from kinguser asking if you want to grant permissions??
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I did try several apps from the playstore that require root access like titanium backup ...
And they just keep trying to ask for root access for sometime then display a message "Failed" without any reaction from the "KingoUser" App
Anyway ~ i tried another root program called Vroot ( Or iRoot ) and this time root actually worked and installed superuser that ask for root permission for each program ( Allow of deny dialogue ) And titanium backup has root access now
But the app called "KingoUser" Cant be uninstalled even after doing several factory reset ( Without loosing root status )
I currently have it disabled but i want to permanently remove it cuz it's useless
One more think , i disabled the "superuser" app that automatically installed after the root process and installed the newer version from the play store that works perfectly and it updated my su binary it seems
So is it safe for me to completely remove the outdated superuser app the came with iRoot ? ( Cuz it wont update by itself and i cant find and option to update ) ? And how do i remove it ( Same problem with "KingoUser" )
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I did try several apps from the playstore that require root access like titanium backup ...
And they just keep trying to ask for root access for sometime then display a message "Failed" without any reaction from the "KingoUser" App
Anyway ~ i tried another root program called Vroot ( Or iRoot ) and this time root actually worked and installed superuser that ask for root permission for each program ( Allow of deny dialogue ) And titanium backup has root access now
But the app called "KingoUser" Cant be uninstalled even after doing several factory reset ( Without loosing root status )
I currently have it disabled but i want to permanently remove it cuz it's useless
One more think , i disabled the "superuser" app that automatically installed after the root process and installed the newer version from the play store that works perfectly and it updated my su binary it seems
So is it safe for me to completely remove the outdated superuser app the came with iRoot ? ( Cuz it wont update by itself and i cant find and option to update ) ? And how do i remove it ( Same problem with "KingoUser" )
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yeh it's safe to remove, go with any root file explorer to system/app and delete it!
You may also try first freezing that app and then uninstalling it
utsha.saha.58 said:
You may also try first freezing that app and then uninstalling it
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I have it disabled , doesn't that mean it's freezed ?
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I have it disabled , doesn't that mean it's freezed ?
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Yep same thing. After disabling this app uninstalling it will make no problem
This chinese su apps gave me a lot of pain in the ass
I have been trying to find a way to keep root and Android pay. Some apps, while they are granted root privileges, break android pay.
I don't have a large list. But as of now, the apps cause my device to fail the SafetyNet check are:
Titanium Backup
Root explorer
Ex kernel manager
It seems that it only breaks pay when these apps are actively using root. "Killing" the apps send to make my device pass the check.
As people comment I'll update the list.
I'm using EX Kernel Manager with systemless root, and Android Pay still works for me.
EXkernel manager doesn't break it.
Greenify definitely breaks it.
adaway breaks it unless you flash the systemless hosts zip file prior to installing/applying it
root features of nova launcher don't break it
wakelock detector does not break it
Using Titanium backup, Root explorer, ex kernel mngr, and adaway 3.01 I think no different install methods, clean install yesterday. First time using systemless root. AP worked today at Walgreen's.
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Using Titanium backup, Root explorer, ex kernel mngr, and adaway 3.01 I think no different install methods, clean install yesterday. First time using systemless root. AP worked today at Walgreen's.
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Same.
Apps don't break Android Pay, the method on how you root does.
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EXkernel manager doesn't break it.
Greenify definitely breaks it.
adaway breaks it unless you flash the systemless hosts zip file prior to installing/applying it
root features of nova launcher don't break it
wakelock detector does not break it
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I'm also using Greenify and Adaway. Neither has broken Android Pay.
I'm using Titanium Backup, EX Kernel Manager, Root Explorer, and AdAway as well. Android Pay works fine.
Successfully using all those apps, including Greenify (missing the xposed module though). Not a problem with AP, have used it about 4 times in the past week.
Quick update to all. I've noticed that when some of my apps are open, they cause the "SafetyNet helper" to fail. That's why I say it "breaks" it.
AP till works for me. But it can be spotty if I just opened a root app
Must be a really long line and you're backing up apps, searching for a file, or changing your color profile while waiting to tap.
Edit: OK I had AP fail last night when I unlocked my phone eBay was opened up. Apparently I just locked my phone. closed out eBay and chrome popped up from my last tab. Got to my home screen and AP was good to go.
Hey
So I have a rooted Lenovo TB2-x30l running android 5.1.1-
It is rooted with Kingroot.
Now I am trying to install Applock and it wants usage access, sure i find the app in the list and i activate it.
But when I go back and try to lock apps again it asks for the same thing but it is already ON.....
I have even tried using the app (AppOps) to see if it has root acess and it has.
One strange thing I have found, I do not know if it is related is that under accessabiity and services Kingroot is ON and some other programs are OFF,
No matter which order I do it if I put kingroot OFF, or just try and put any other service on ON in 10min they will be reset like it was before again..... WHY ?
I do not have SuperSU installed, should I install that? Would that help somehow?
Thanks in advance!
Try alternate apps
If you root Your device with kingroot app, You wont have SuperSU. Instead, you'll have the same kingroot app to manage superuser rights. The kingroot app will do the same work you suppose SuperSU to do. Don't worry, thats not the issue. I too tried Applock app on my lenovo vibe smartphone without any luck. Use CM SECURITY app. It is an all-in-one security app with app lock feature. It's free and easy to use as well. It doesnt require root permissions. Check it out in Playstore.
Hope this helps!:good:
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Hi All,
Need help of this forum in solving a problem. The problem is in two parts.
1. I need to gain root access on my 7.1.1 on Merlin.
So can i use adb to gain root access ? Learnt something like this from giving elevated access to Greenify for doze. Can someone point to the right direction so that i can learn it to do myself and not depend on third party apps.
2. I have given administrator usages to Airwatch Agent which monitors whether i have root or not. If i gain root access then i lose the service and wont be able to view configured mails. So basically i need to root and not let all the apps know i have root. Somehow hide it.
Please guide. Thanks in advance.
deepray said:
Hi All,
Need help of this forum in solving a problem. The problem is in two parts.
1. I need to gain root access on my 7.1.1 on Merlin.
So can i use adb to gain root access ? Learnt something like this from giving elevated access to Greenify for doze. Can someone point to the right direction so that i can learn it to do myself and not depend on third party apps.
2. I have given administrator usages to Airwatch Agent which monitors whether i have root or not. If i gain root access then i lose the service and wont be able to view configured mails. So basically i need to root and not let all the apps know i have root. Somehow hide it.
Please guide. Thanks in advance.
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Well, basically you are not going to get around AirWatch knowing you are rooted, even with Magisk if their Air Watch server is relatively current... I have tried and tried this (we sell and administer Airwatch for ourselves and lots of customers). Airwatch has been specifically designed to detect King*Root, SuperSU, and Magisk (and it's iPhone equivalents), and it uses far more advanced detection schemes than just SafetyNet, so far it hasn't been bypassed that we have seen on Android 6 and higher devices... (Android 5.1 and older have a different mechanism for bypassing root detection from Airwatch that apparently isn't possible with Marshmallow and higher). Also be aware that Airwatch will flag any device on a custom ROM of any kind too (rooted or not) as an incompatible device.
I don't think there is sufficient need for a detection bypass to be implemented into Magisk for Airwatch, and I am not sure the developers would even consider it, since it would be more about getting around a corporate security policy you agreed too more than just getting around some stupid restrictions from the Play Store or an app developer, but hey, it's worth a shot to ask I guess.
Getting around most apps knowing you have root is pretty simple with Magisk, but Airwatch and some of it's competitors MDM applications are much tougher to deal with.
To be honest you are better to just let Greenify go or to get a separate cheapo device just for your corporate email and keep root on your personal device.
Thats insightful.
Thanks a lot for the comments. I however have not seen Airwatch revoking my device enrollment even when i am running a custom ROM. It just checks whether i have root or not.
And can you guide how to use Magisk to root my Nougat on merlin.
deepray said:
Thanks a lot for the comments. I however have not seen Airwatch revoking my device enrollment even when i am running a custom ROM. It just checks whether i have root or not.
And can you guide how to use Magisk to root my Nougat on merlin.
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Download Magisk and flash it... If your running a custom ROM with SuperSU or some other root built in, might want to ask in your ROM thread to see the right process.
Odd a custom ROM doesn't do anything weird... We have tried several ROM's on our Nexus device and every one will not allow device enrollment.
Confused
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Download Magisk and flash it... If your running a custom ROM with SuperSU or some other root built in, might want to ask in your ROM thread to see the right process.
Odd a custom ROM doesn't do anything weird... We have tried several ROM's on our Nexus device and every one will not allow device enrollment.
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I flashed magisk. It rooted my device. Could use greenify with root and lucky patcher with root too. Which means i have got root access. Now comes Airwatch Agent. It asked for root access And i denied it. So now my device is not unenrolled and i am able to use configured mails successfully. Happy. But confused.
deepray said:
I flashed magisk. It rooted my device. Could use greenify with root and lucky patcher with root too. Which means i have got root access. Now comes Airwatch Agent. It asked for root access And i denied it. So now my device is not unenrolled and i am able to use configured mails successfully. Happy. But confused.
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So latest Magisk is not seen by AirWatch... Nice. I'll have to play with it again.
But there's a new problem now.
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So latest Magisk is not seen by AirWatch... Nice. I'll have to play with it again.
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I lost the root. Dont know why. I actually tried installing supersu from playstore which asked something like- do you want to copy binaries to somwhere and i said yes. To that effect my device was unenrolled by Airwatch Agent. Then i removed supersu and i was able to enrol my device again. But the next morning i am noy rooted anymore. Lucky patcher says root is not stable. Don't know what to do.
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I lost the root. Dont know why. I actually tried installing supersu from playstore which asked something like- do you want to copy binaries to somwhere and i said yes. To that effect my device was unenrolled by Airwatch Agent. Then i removed supersu and i was able to enrol my device again. But the next morning i am noy rooted anymore. Lucky patcher says root is not stable. Don't know what to do.
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You can't mix SuperSU and Magisk... after you flash Magisk you need to install Magisk Manager, but it isn't in the Play Store.
And BTW, don't mention Lucky Patcher here... that is purely a pirating app and users of it are thieves.
I will not assist you with anything to do with that software.
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You can't mix SuperSU and Magisk... after you flash Magisk you need to install Magisk Manager, but it isn't in the Play Store.
And BTW, don't mention Lucky Patcher here... that is purely a pirating app and users of it are thieves.
I will not assist you with anything to do with that software.
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I am sorry if i offended the community. I installed it as a means to achieve background play of YouTube as till Marshmallow, this was beautifully done by xposed mods. But as for Nougat as xposed is still in development, i needed that app.
I was not aware of other uses of that app. Nor do i have any further intention. Actually i tried using OG Youtube and the other app which was needed but that provided for popup only. Hope you understand.
deepray said:
I am sorry if i offended the community. I installed it as a means to achieve background play of YouTube as till Marshmallow, this was beautifully done by xposed mods. But as for Nougat as xposed is still in development, i needed that app.
I was not aware of other uses of that app. Nor do i have any further intention. Actually i tried using OG Youtube and the other app which was needed but that provided for popup only. Hope you understand.
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Not really... Background playback on YouTube is a paid service, no matter how you bypass that it's stealing.
Trust me, I don't like it either but I'm not going to steal the service
acejavelin said:
Not really... Background playback on YouTube is a paid service, no matter how you bypass that it's stealing.
Trust me, I don't like it either but I'm not going to steal the service
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Got the message. I found it difficult to draw the line though.