Hi All,
Need help of this forum in solving a problem. The problem is in two parts.
1. I need to gain root access on my 7.1.1 on Merlin.
So can i use adb to gain root access ? Learnt something like this from giving elevated access to Greenify for doze. Can someone point to the right direction so that i can learn it to do myself and not depend on third party apps.
2. I have given administrator usages to Airwatch Agent which monitors whether i have root or not. If i gain root access then i lose the service and wont be able to view configured mails. So basically i need to root and not let all the apps know i have root. Somehow hide it.
Please guide. Thanks in advance.
deepray said:
Hi All,
Need help of this forum in solving a problem. The problem is in two parts.
1. I need to gain root access on my 7.1.1 on Merlin.
So can i use adb to gain root access ? Learnt something like this from giving elevated access to Greenify for doze. Can someone point to the right direction so that i can learn it to do myself and not depend on third party apps.
2. I have given administrator usages to Airwatch Agent which monitors whether i have root or not. If i gain root access then i lose the service and wont be able to view configured mails. So basically i need to root and not let all the apps know i have root. Somehow hide it.
Please guide. Thanks in advance.
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Well, basically you are not going to get around AirWatch knowing you are rooted, even with Magisk if their Air Watch server is relatively current... I have tried and tried this (we sell and administer Airwatch for ourselves and lots of customers). Airwatch has been specifically designed to detect King*Root, SuperSU, and Magisk (and it's iPhone equivalents), and it uses far more advanced detection schemes than just SafetyNet, so far it hasn't been bypassed that we have seen on Android 6 and higher devices... (Android 5.1 and older have a different mechanism for bypassing root detection from Airwatch that apparently isn't possible with Marshmallow and higher). Also be aware that Airwatch will flag any device on a custom ROM of any kind too (rooted or not) as an incompatible device.
I don't think there is sufficient need for a detection bypass to be implemented into Magisk for Airwatch, and I am not sure the developers would even consider it, since it would be more about getting around a corporate security policy you agreed too more than just getting around some stupid restrictions from the Play Store or an app developer, but hey, it's worth a shot to ask I guess.
Getting around most apps knowing you have root is pretty simple with Magisk, but Airwatch and some of it's competitors MDM applications are much tougher to deal with.
To be honest you are better to just let Greenify go or to get a separate cheapo device just for your corporate email and keep root on your personal device.
Thats insightful.
Thanks a lot for the comments. I however have not seen Airwatch revoking my device enrollment even when i am running a custom ROM. It just checks whether i have root or not.
And can you guide how to use Magisk to root my Nougat on merlin.
deepray said:
Thanks a lot for the comments. I however have not seen Airwatch revoking my device enrollment even when i am running a custom ROM. It just checks whether i have root or not.
And can you guide how to use Magisk to root my Nougat on merlin.
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Download Magisk and flash it... If your running a custom ROM with SuperSU or some other root built in, might want to ask in your ROM thread to see the right process.
Odd a custom ROM doesn't do anything weird... We have tried several ROM's on our Nexus device and every one will not allow device enrollment.
Confused
acejavelin said:
Download Magisk and flash it... If your running a custom ROM with SuperSU or some other root built in, might want to ask in your ROM thread to see the right process.
Odd a custom ROM doesn't do anything weird... We have tried several ROM's on our Nexus device and every one will not allow device enrollment.
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I flashed magisk. It rooted my device. Could use greenify with root and lucky patcher with root too. Which means i have got root access. Now comes Airwatch Agent. It asked for root access And i denied it. So now my device is not unenrolled and i am able to use configured mails successfully. Happy. But confused.
deepray said:
I flashed magisk. It rooted my device. Could use greenify with root and lucky patcher with root too. Which means i have got root access. Now comes Airwatch Agent. It asked for root access And i denied it. So now my device is not unenrolled and i am able to use configured mails successfully. Happy. But confused.
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So latest Magisk is not seen by AirWatch... Nice. I'll have to play with it again.
But there's a new problem now.
acejavelin said:
So latest Magisk is not seen by AirWatch... Nice. I'll have to play with it again.
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I lost the root. Dont know why. I actually tried installing supersu from playstore which asked something like- do you want to copy binaries to somwhere and i said yes. To that effect my device was unenrolled by Airwatch Agent. Then i removed supersu and i was able to enrol my device again. But the next morning i am noy rooted anymore. Lucky patcher says root is not stable. Don't know what to do.
deepray said:
I lost the root. Dont know why. I actually tried installing supersu from playstore which asked something like- do you want to copy binaries to somwhere and i said yes. To that effect my device was unenrolled by Airwatch Agent. Then i removed supersu and i was able to enrol my device again. But the next morning i am noy rooted anymore. Lucky patcher says root is not stable. Don't know what to do.
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You can't mix SuperSU and Magisk... after you flash Magisk you need to install Magisk Manager, but it isn't in the Play Store.
And BTW, don't mention Lucky Patcher here... that is purely a pirating app and users of it are thieves.
I will not assist you with anything to do with that software.
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You can't mix SuperSU and Magisk... after you flash Magisk you need to install Magisk Manager, but it isn't in the Play Store.
And BTW, don't mention Lucky Patcher here... that is purely a pirating app and users of it are thieves.
I will not assist you with anything to do with that software.
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I am sorry if i offended the community. I installed it as a means to achieve background play of YouTube as till Marshmallow, this was beautifully done by xposed mods. But as for Nougat as xposed is still in development, i needed that app.
I was not aware of other uses of that app. Nor do i have any further intention. Actually i tried using OG Youtube and the other app which was needed but that provided for popup only. Hope you understand.
deepray said:
I am sorry if i offended the community. I installed it as a means to achieve background play of YouTube as till Marshmallow, this was beautifully done by xposed mods. But as for Nougat as xposed is still in development, i needed that app.
I was not aware of other uses of that app. Nor do i have any further intention. Actually i tried using OG Youtube and the other app which was needed but that provided for popup only. Hope you understand.
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Not really... Background playback on YouTube is a paid service, no matter how you bypass that it's stealing.
Trust me, I don't like it either but I'm not going to steal the service
acejavelin said:
Not really... Background playback on YouTube is a paid service, no matter how you bypass that it's stealing.
Trust me, I don't like it either but I'm not going to steal the service
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Got the message. I found it difficult to draw the line though.
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I want to have fb messenger in ultra power saving mode (UPSM). for that i need to use the UPSM Manager app which requires root. I really do not like to root, because more and more apps are blocking rooted devices (Barclays banking, android pay, pokemon go). So I am asking if there exists some methods for gaining temp root (e.g. with adb). so i can install and use upsm-m once and then reboot and root is gone. It is important that the flag is not flipping.
Thank you for all your help
Shiro
Nope, and even if you could, the app would fail as soon as root was removed
*Detection* said:
Nope, and even if you could, the app would fail as soon as root was removed
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I expected that, on my old htcs there were temp roots available.
But the failing of the app after removing root, is not a problem. The app is just a configfile creator. Since the config file has changed, the app is not needed anymore.
Hi everyone,
I'm curious if anyone has gotten the SuperSU root method running on this phone. I know that magisk exists but snapchat has problems with magisk for some reason so I would prefer to use SuperSU instead. I already have the latest twrp installed if that helps at all. Flashing the SuperSU zip doesn't seem to do anything so I'm hoping somebody has figured this out already.
Thanks,
TomatoesOnBluRay
TomatoesOnBluRay said:
Hi everyone,
I'm curious if anyone has gotten the SuperSU root method running on this phone. I know that magisk exists but snapchat has problems with magisk for some reason so I would prefer to use SuperSU instead. I already have the latest twrp installed if that helps at all. Flashing the SuperSU zip doesn't seem to do anything so I'm hoping somebody has figured this out already.
Thanks,
TomatoesOnBluRay
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just realized i put this in guides instead of questions and answers. Is there a way to move it? Serious noob here.
Do not think anyone has used SuperSU in a few years really. What is wrong with Snapchat and rooted with Magisk?
Snapchat wont get along with Supersu either. At least you could try to hide Magisk from Snapchat
I'm abit curious now, why would you prefer having supersu when magisk works the same way but even better?
schmeggy929 said:
Do not think anyone has used SuperSU in a few years really. What is wrong with Snapchat and rooted with Magisk?
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it seems like supersu hasn't been updated in a couple years now, so you're absolutely correct. Snapchat keeps locking me out of my account for "using a third party app" even though I haven't been using a third party app. My guess is that it's detecting root somehow even when I have magisk hide enabled, magisk changed to manager, and xprivacylua restricting snapchat's access to files. I even tried using parallel space to copy snapchat into an isolated environment, but it doesn't even log in. It might have something to do with Oxygen OS, but I'm not sure. Although it's unlikely, I'm trying to see if there is a way to install SuperSU on this phone because I know snapchat works as it did on my old phone (if you log in before you root, of course). If it's not possible, I'll just have to figure something out.
TomatoesOnBluRay said:
it seems like supersu hasn't been updated in a couple years now, so you're absolutely correct. Snapchat keeps locking me out of my account for "using a third party app" even though I haven't been using a third party app. My guess is that it's detecting root somehow even when I have magisk hide enabled, magisk changed to manager, and xprivacylua restricting snapchat's access to files. I even tried using parallel space to copy snapchat into an isolated environment, but it doesn't even log in. It might have something to do with Oxygen OS, but I'm not sure. Although it's unlikely, I'm trying to see if there is a way to install SuperSU on this phone because I know snapchat works as it did on my old phone (if you log in before you root, of course). If it's not possible, I'll just have to figure something out.
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You need to Magisk hide Snapchat. Go to menu(top left, 3 lines) click Magisk Hide. Scroll to Snapchat and check it. Clear data for Snapchat. Log back in.
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You need to Magisk hide Snapchat. Go to menu(top left, 3 lines) click Magisk Hide. Scroll to Snapchat and check it. Clear data for Snapchat. Log back in.
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I did this but it didn't work, it still locks my account. Snapchat seems to have some weird form of detection that can't be worked around.
TomatoesOnBluRay said:
I did this but it didn't work, it still locks my account. Snapchat seems to have some weird form of detection that can't be worked around.
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Weird, never had an issue with Snapchat and was always rooted.
I used to have the same issue with snapchat until I started using the Magisk Beta versions, since then I haven't had that issue at all. Which version of Magisk are you using?
TomatoesOnBluRay said:
I did this but it didn't work, it still locks my account. Snapchat seems to have some weird form of detection that can't be worked around.
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Get it up and running, create a backup with titanium and when you are on magisk, restore the data.
Thats how i used to do it when it wouldnt let me log in. But I havent had the issue for years with magisk. Ensure you are using the current and ensure you pass safety net.
There's no answer to asked questions before, So i might want to start this.
Is there any OLD SCHOOL SuperSU which work as granting Root Access instead of Magisk?
I don't like magisk, too many unused feature. I just want it like the old SuperSU back then, just granting root access and no other thing like magisk does.
Can the dev bring back the simplicity to where it was before?
mpoendi said:
There's no answer to asked questions before, So i might want to start this.
Is there any OLD SCHOOL SuperSU which work as granting Root Access instead of Magisk?
I don't like magisk, too many unused feature. I just want it like the old SuperSU back then, just granting root access and no other thing like magisk does.
Can the dev bring back the simplicity to where it was before?
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If you are using an old school OS, then use SuperSU. But if you are using a current OS, especially 9 or 10, then your only option for root is Magisk. The complexity of modem rooting and then accessing many of the features people want from root is what Magisk focuses on.
If you don't care about certified play store, Google pay, bank or other apps that won't work, etc, then just flash Magisk in recovery (if your one of the lucky ones who have a working recovery), install the manager and ignore all of the "features". Unless you inadvertently give access or block access to an app, you may never need to open the manager.
So, I tried literally every single trick to make this app called "Paytm First Games" think that I am on a official rom and I am non rooted. But whatever I did it failed me no matter what. It kicks me out of the app anyways.
The god app's link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.paytm.paytmplay
Applications I used:
Magisk with cts & integrity true, the Prop editor module that comes in magisk, Used official fingerprint, tried other roms, without rooting only with a custom rom but with safety net pass, Renaming Magisk, Island.
if there is anything that I may have missed suggest.
any dev reading this please help. I need this app work on my phone.
sakubhaia089 said:
So, I tried literally every single trick to make this app called "Paytm First Games" think that I am on a official rom and I am non rooted. But whatever I did it failed me no matter what. It kicks me out of the app anyways.
The god app's link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.paytm.paytmplay
Applications I used:
Magisk with cts & integrity true, the Prop editor module that comes in magisk, Used official fingerprint, tried other roms, without rooting only with a custom rom but with safety net pass, Renaming Magisk, Island.
if there is anything that I may have missed suggest.
any dev reading this please help. I need this app work on my phone.
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I read that google has introduced a new API in the last couple months, that detects rooting. I noticed an app I had before that worked under Magisk, will not run now. It is disappointing, because it was just a PDF reader...
There is a XDA thread for installing just SU that does not change the directory structure or patches the bootloader...I dont know if this would work, but you may try it and see.
can you gimme the link of the thread? thanks in adv!
sakubhaia089 said:
can you gimme the link of the thread? thanks in adv!
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https://www.xda-developers.com/safetynet-hardware-attestation-hide-root-magisk/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/su-t4143987
Facing the same issue. Do you have any solution on how to make the paytmfirstgames app work on rooted device?
Hi, I use root in all my devices from a lot of time but now I'm 41yo and no more interested in this.
I use root "now only" for
1) call recording (BCR);
2) SwifthBackup;
3) Revanced.
So, call recorder seems to be installed also without root: just put apk in system app directory!
... but, how I can move an apk in system directory without root or twrp, and with locked bootloader?
SwifthBackup can work without root? I don't remember but I can search.
Revanced isn't a problem, I can use with microG.
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Any help about my doubts?
I want try also because VPN not work, and after a months of email with support "seems" can be related to unlocked/rooted device.
I want just try.
Ty.
Without root, Swift Backup can backup app APK files, but not the app data. It does allow you to grant adb permissions through Shizuku, but I never figured out what [if anything] that allows it to do. I wasn't able to backup app data with ADB privelages.
I don't know the answer to the Call Recording issue.
lupastro82 said:
Hi, I use root in all my devices from a lot of time but now I'm 41yo and no more interested in this.
I use root "now only" for
1) call recording (BCR);
2) SwifthBackup;
3) Revanced.
So, call recorder seems to be installed also without root: just put apk in system app directory!
... but, how I can move an apk in system directory without root or twrp, and with locked bootloader?
SwifthBackup can work without root? I don't remember but I can search.
Revanced isn't a problem, I can use with microG.
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Any help about my doubts?
I want try also because VPN not work, and after a months of email with support "seems" can be related to unlocked/rooted device.
I want just try.
Ty.
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I imagine that, once you move that .apk to the system app directory (while rooted), once you unroot, it should still stay there and probably be accessible; but I'm unsure whether successfully running it will be possible -- it depends on the call recording app and if the app requires root to run. If it doesn't and it simply needs root just to be inserted, then I imagine it would probably work if you unroot.
But I have never heard of this method of getting a mod or add-on to work by inserting it in the system app directory...it's fascinating...
Like you said, ReVanced doesn't necessarily need root to work; it just works better with it. Swift Backup will only in a basic way be able to back your device up without root access.
But if you are simply just trying to get a certain VPN to work -- and in the end you don't want to lose root -- you could try doing the numerous root-hiding methods. There are many games, banking apps, and streaming apps that won't work with root (without even giving you a warning that it's because of root detection sometimes) that, once you hide root successfully, are able to run it. It sounds like that could possibly be the case for your VPN.
There are these you can try (if you haven't yet); Zygisk Deny List, UniversalSafetyNetFix (Displax mod works best with P7P), Shamiko, HideMyApp, Magisk Delta, etc.
Also, please be aware (or reminded if you know already) that while unrooting will not wipe and reset your device, locking your bootloader requires wiping the device and you losing everything! You'll be able to get some stuff restored through Google One Backup/Sync, but most everything will need to be set back up and/or lost. And if all you are seeking is to get a VPN to work, I really highly doubt that the app/service goes so far as to detect if you have an unlocked bootloader; it seems there are some banking apps that go that far, but most apps out there don't go that far, and hearing a VPN does would be a first...
Good luck!
Just Google VPN. Do not work anymore from about two months and seems can be a root/unlocked issue.
Anyway, u're right. Ty so much.