RAW .dng files always come out blurry and unfocused. - Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion

I own a P9 Lite and managed to enable RAW capture in PRO Photo mode, however there is this issue that is totally killing my joy.
Shooting RAW, the camera takes one compressed .jpeg and one RAW .dng. However, no matter the shooting conditions, the RAW .dng always comes out blurry and very soft.
I used a tripod, very, very fast shutter speeds, in broad daylight and the .dngs ALWAYS come out unfocused. They're just a very blurry mess.
Anyone able to chime in an maybe offer some insight?

zgomot said:
I own a P9 Lite and managed to enable RAW capture in PRO Photo mode, however there is this issue that is totally killing my joy.
Shooting RAW, the camera takes one compressed .jpeg and one RAW .dng. However, no matter the shooting conditions, the RAW .dng always comes out blurry and very soft.
I used a tripod, very, very fast shutter speeds, in broad daylight and the .dngs ALWAYS come out unfocused. They're just a very blurry mess.
Anyone able to chime in an maybe offer some insight?
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Could you explain how did you enable this feature ? Thank you

Marsou77 said:
Could you explain how did you enable this feature ? Thank you
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https://www.xda-developers.com/guide-enables-raw-capture-in-the-stock-huawei-p9-lite-camera/

zgomot said:
https://www.xda-developers.com/guide-enables-raw-capture-in-the-stock-huawei-p9-lite-camera/
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Just tried and it works nicely for me on my P9.
Take a picture and be stable 5s after the shot. Processing is longer that normal.
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zgomot said:
https://www.xda-developers.com/guide-enables-raw-capture-in-the-stock-huawei-p9-lite-camera/
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No Pro-Mode on P9 lite?

dkionline said:
No Pro-Mode on P9 lite?
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There is but by default, it only takes .jpeg images.

About the blurriness, the culprit is the stock gallery app, which doesn't render RAW files correctly. Imported into Lightroom, the .dng is actually quite a bit sharper than the .jpeg.

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Best camera settings

I've seen camera examples from the n5 which look great but mine look grainy..any ideas what settings do people use
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Try compare the exif info.
P.s. it is not a problem of setting, it just if you know some basic photography techniques.
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sorry, i got to laugh first.. lmao!
settings could be different for every single photo.
and @DummyPLUG said it right, its about learning some basic photography skills, and knowing some basic physics about light helps. one thing is for sure though, dont just press the button. touch the screen first, where you want it focused. point and click, youll get better looking photos as well.
Enable HDR.
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Enable HDR.
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why? i refuse to use it. photos that come out of hdr do look nice, but also lose out on a lot of detail, as tbe image size is also reduced.
DummyPLUG said:
it is not a problem of setting, it just if you know some basic photography techniques.
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This
simms22 said:
settings could be different for every single photo.
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MrObvious said:
Enable HDR.
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and this, where ever possible.
see, i dont agree to enable hdr whenever possible. sure, overall images seem to look better. but you lose so much detail by using it. if detail is important to you, like the detail in my photos to me, than its the worst thing to do. as i can get a better looking "hdr" images by editing the photo after, than the hdr camera can capture.
simms22 said:
why? i refuse to use it. photos that come out of hdr do look nice, but also lose out on a lot of detail, as tbe image size is also reduced.
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To me, HDR + gives a truer account of the actual light conditions in front of the lens and also better pictures in lower light.
My HDR pictures are bigger. Just done a low light test. 800KB vs 1.2MB
Edit, oh maybe you mean resolution?
5992704 vs 583680 in my tests. 6mpx vs 5.8 - not a lot of detail really.
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rootSU said:
To me, HDR + gives a truer account of the actual light conditions in front of the lens and also better pictures in lower light.
My HDR pictures are bigger. Just done a low light test. 800KB vs 1.2MB
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that's a 33.33% reduction in size. not counting the hdr effect which ruins the actual detail(zoom all the way in to look).
instead, id say use touch to focus whenever possible. as just pressing the button will give you an average focus over the whole image. but touch to focus will give you detail where you need it.
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that's a 30% reduction in size.
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Sorry, i though you were saying a smaller file size is a BAD thing. Im confused, are you now saying its BETTER?
rootSU said:
Sorry, i though you were saying a smaller file size is a BAD thing. Im confused, are you now saying its BETTER?
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wait, your saying the hdr photo is larger or smaller. to me it sounded like you said smaller.
simms22 said:
wait, your saying the hdr photo is larger or smaller. to me it sounded like you said smaller.
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Even though I used the word bigger?
rootSU said:
Even though I used the word bigger?
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the way you wrote the photo size.. but i just checked as well, pixel size is smaller in an hdr photo, not mb in the file size.
simms22 said:
the way you wrote the photo size.. but i just checked as well, pixel size is smaller in an hdr photo, not mb in the file size.
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To me, HDR+ looks sharper too.
I'd upload a couple of examples, but they get compressed on TT or Photobucket. Maybe G+ doesn't compress? That said, I don't like using my real name in forums so... hahah
rootSU said:
To me, HDR+ looks sharper too.
I'd upload a couple of examples, but they get compressed on TT or Photobucket. Maybe G+ doesn't compress? That said, I don't like using my real name in forums so... hahah
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na, g+ does as well.
i guess if you dont have much photography knowledge, then hdr+ might be good to use Lp
simms22 said:
na, g+ does as well.
i guess if you dont have much photography knowledge, then hdr+ might be good to use Lp
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Well HDR+ is designed to give more detail where a normal camera would lose in dark and light areas. To me the results are better on a phone where you cannot adjust the shutter speed, iso or aperture.
I think its very unfair to link the use of HDR+ to photography knowledge. Its about the result. I myself am a keen amateur photographer and understand photography principles well, but it doesn't change the fact that HDR+ gets more information on a point and shoot than without.
I guess its slightly subjective as to whether you like your photos accurate or not. But technically, HDR + is better
Edit.. For those who don't know what we're debating, here's a link
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-dynamic-range_imaging
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rootSU said:
Well HDR+ is designed to give more detail where a normal camera would lose in dark and light areas. To me the results are better on a phone where you cannot adjust the shutter speed, iso or aperture.
I think its very unfair to link the use of HDR+ to photography knowledge. Its about the result. I myself am a keen amateur photographer and understand photography principles well, but it doesn't change the fact that HDR+ gets more information on a point and shoot than without.
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well.. detail. hdr does make darker areas lighter, as thats why i do make many images hdr like, or faux hdr. from that point of view, sure, details get somewhat better. well, not better but you can see the details better. but on another hand, when you look at the details when you zoom in, the tiny details, they are worse. but thats just because of the nature of hdr on mobile, on taking several images and meshing them together. in my photography, those tiny details are very important, since many of my photos are macro-like, and focus on a specific point while everything else blurs. using hdr+, it tends to not catch the fine details.
simms22 said:
well.. detail. hdr does make darker areas lighter, as thats why i do make many images hdr like, or faux hdr. from that point of view, sure, details get somewhat better. well, not better but you can see the details better. but on another hand, when you look at the details when you zoom in, the tiny details, they are worse. but thats just because of the nature of hdr on mobile, on taking several images and meshing them together. in my photography, those tiny details are very important, since many of my photos are macro-like, and focus on a specific point while everything else blurs. using hdr+, it tends to not catch the fine details.
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Well macro is a different kettle of fish. I use a completely different set up for macro, ie not a phone
To me a phone is for snaps. I find HDR+ gives a better snap
Anyways, whatever. Use it, don't. The op has enough info to decide now
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rootSU said:
Well macro is a different kettle of fish. I use a completely different set up for macro, ie not a phone
To me a phone is for snaps. I find HDR+ gives a better snap
Anyways, whatever. Use it, don't. The op has enough info to decide now
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or use it in certain types of shots. anyways, its a personal preference. and absolutely!
@rootSU @simms22 people never understand this.
Lethargy said:
HDR = High Dynamic Range, multiple (doesn't matter how many) pictures taken at different exposures and put together so you get everything exposed and nothing over/under-exposed.
HDR+ = Google's random magic algorithm for scene recognition, saturation fixing and contrast fixing, done with multiple (I think 2) images. Quoting Google; “With HDR+, create vivid photos by day and sharper photos by night.”
What Google calls "HDR+" only exists on the Nexus 5.
See this image: http://images.fonearena.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/htc-one-hdr-vs-nexus-5-hdr-plus.jpg
As you can see, the HDR image doesn't have anything over/under-exposed whereas the HDR+ image has it's subject underexposed.
HDR is NOT the same as HDR+.
Edit: also have to add that "HDR+" is limited to the Google Camera. If you download a 3rd party camera app to use on the Nexus 5 and it has a "HDR mode", it'll be actual HDR, rather than what Google calls "HDR+".
I'm pretty sure the algorithm for "HDR+" is closed source but its definitely not real High Dynamic Range.
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A Couple Of Questions Regarding The Purchase Of A New Mate.

Good evening folks.
My Note 4 perished by cat and I've settled on a Mate 9 as my replacement phone. I have a couple of questions to those who own it before purchase though.
1.) How easy does the camera glass scratch? That was quite the issue for my Note 4. Will I require a full case to avoid image quality degradation by scratches?
2.) Are the new phone cases (not refurbished) sealed in any fashion from the factory. There are no official outlets here and I'm worried about buying a refurbished dud.
3.) Does the white version really feel like it's made out of Ceramic?
4.) I'd love to see some .dng low light / night and landscape sample images I could do some Photoshop magic on. I'm a photographer at heart and can't quite find anything but .jpegs out there.
Your help would be much appreciated! ^v^
Swan
Swan Princess said:
1.) How easy does the camera glass scratch? That was quite the issue for my Note 4. Will I require a full case to avoid image quality degradation by scratches?
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Google JerryRigEverything on youtube for his mate 9 video he does a durability video on this.
Here a low light raw pic https://www.mediafire.com/download/soa45631qw42i13
gm007 said:
Here a low light raw pic
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Thank you very much for your reply! It seems that the raw files can't be opened in my favorite DXO Optics Played around with some Photosop. It seems quite formidable to preserve details, but I see some noise in the recovered shadows / flat dark areas. The white balance errs a bit on the cool side of things. And you have a very comfy looking sofa, that made me feel sleepy :>I guess I'll just have to get used to it. My main interests are weather photography, as well as landscapes. I am sure I can make it work for my purposes.
Does a lens correction profile exist for this camera at all?
Swan Princess said:
Thank you very much for your reply! It seems that the raw files can't be opened in my favorite DXO Optics Played around with some Photosop. It seems quite formidable to preserve details, but I see some noise in the recovered shadows / flat dark areas. The white balance errs a bit on the cool side of things. And you have a very comfy looking sofa, that made me feel sleepy :>I guess I'll just have to get used to it. My main interests are weather photography, as well as landscapes. I am sure I can make it work for my purposes.
Does a lens correction profile exist for this camera at all?
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What do you mean by lens correction profile?
Do you need a preset correcting vignette and distortion?or you mean raw editor in Photoshop is limited?
gm007 said:
What do you mean by lens correction profile?
Do you need a preset correcting vignette and distortion?or you mean raw editor in Photoshop is limited?
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I do mean correction of lens geometry and I guess vignetting as well yes. Does such a thing even exist for this model? In all other aspects it seems to be mostly like a professional camera. I also mean that Photoshop does not have the correction information for the shot, like say Nexus 6P has (at least judging by the list of supported cameras in PS).
Swan Princess said:
I do mean correction of lens geometry and I guess vignetting as well yes. Does such a thing even exist for this model? In all other aspects it seems to be mostly like a professional camera. I also mean that Photoshop does not have the correction information for the shot, like say Nexus 6P has (at least judging by the list of supported cameras in PS).
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In Photoshop there is lens correction in filters menu.
Yes exif data is not available,maybe need an updated camera raw software.
In my opinion the camera is very good and using the manual mode you can easily take great photos.
gm007 said:
In Photoshop there is lens correction in filters menu.
Yes exif data is not available,maybe need an updated camera raw software.
In my opinion the camera is very good and using the manual mode you can easily take great photos.
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I also noticed that the JPEG processing algorithm does wonders to reduce the noise! Alas I'm very obsessed over shooting everything in .dng / RAW!
There is lens correction, but I can't find support for this phone / lens combination. Without such a profile the correction is useless. EXIF data is all there, as far as I can see with IrfanView and it all looks legit. Phone model, exposure time, F-Stop, etc. Why would you say EXIF isn't available? Can't you see it?
I couldn't see it in Photoshop but with acdsee pro it's there.
I was comparing the raw files from my p9 and it seems they are better than mate 9.
Not sure why but i will do more test tomorrow.
gm007 said:
I couldn't see it in Photoshop but with acdsee pro it's there.
I was comparing the raw files from my p9 and it seems they are better than mate 9.
Not sure why but i will do more test tomorrow.
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Could you set up a tripod then inside and take two same low light images on Mate 9 and P9 with the same settings and share with us please? Would be really nice!
Swan Princess said:
Could you set up a tripod then inside and take two same low light images on Mate 9 and P9 with the same settings and share with us please? Would be really nice!
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Sure tomorrow, it's around 1 am here
gm007 said:
Sure tomorrow, it's around 1 am here
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Yeah, soon 0200 in the night and I'ms till awake. All those thoughts swarming in my head. Another thing I'd love to see is dark noise comparison. So ISO 100, 30-second exposures with the lenses closed with both P9 and Mate 9. That's quite an important figure in photography. What do the sensors show, when there's nothing to show.
Swan Princess said:
Yeah, soon 0200 in the night and I'ms till awake. All those thoughts swarming in my head. Another thing I'd love to see is dark noise comparison. So ISO 100, 30-second exposures with the lenses closed with both P9 and Mate 9. That's quite an important figure in photography. What do the sensors show, when there's nothing to show.
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Yes i see more blue noise in mate 9 than p9 in dark or closed lens.
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Yes i see more blue noise in mate 9 than p9 in dark or closed lens.
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Well, that is interesting. I thought that the camera sensors should be identical in them both? Could anyone else confirm that the image quality is worse on the Mate, then it is on the P9?
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Well, that is interesting. I thought that the camera sensors should be identical in them both? Could anyone else confirm that the image quality is worse on the Mate, then it is on the P9?
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P9 has 2 12MP sensors,mate 9 has 1 12MP and 1 20MP,there is no info which sensors they use.
I will do the test when i get home.
gm007 said:
P9 has 2 12MP sensors,mate 9 has 1 12MP and 1 20MP,there is no info which sensors they use.
I will do the test when i get home.
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Try doing the test with 1.1x zoom as well. I heard the image quality improves quite a bit. Seems that the JPEG is made from both sensors and the .dng from only one?
Swan Princess said:
Try doing the test with 1.1x zoom as well. I heard the image quality improves quite a bit. Seems that the JPEG is made from both sensors and the .dng from only one?
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Didn't have time last night Champions League
But i did quick test at 100 iso 30sec for both mate9 and p9,here the dng files https://www.mediafire.com/download/1w8rosw8jxcnw2r
gm007 said:
Didn't have time last night Champions League
But i did quick test at 100 iso 30sec for both mate9 and p9,here the dng files https://www.mediafire.com/download/1w8rosw8jxcnw2r
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I did a quick enhance on those dark images in Photoshop and it seems indeed that the two phones run completely different imaging hardware. The P9 had a bit of amp glow on the top and bottom of the image, while the Mate 9 had a darker circle in the middle and overall much less noise. Very interesting, also none of those two files had EXIF in them this time. Not sure what to think about it all. Am I just doing silly things?
Another question I have before purchase is would it be possible to tell of a re-branded version, if I aim to get the EU 64GB one? May I get a re-flashed Chinese one instead? Is there a surefire way to tell of a genuine L29 was it?
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Another question I have before purchase is would it be possible to tell of a re-branded version, if I aim to get the EU 64GB one? May I get a re-flashed Chinese one instead? Is there a surefire way to tell of a genuine L29 was it?
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Only the imei on box should match imei inside the phone.

DNG Raw files?

I wounder if someone could help me, I wounder if any if you could upload a few DNG raw files?
A few photos in daylight and indoors.
Have search the whole web after raw files from Mate 9, only find a few from DPreview.
So if anyone could upload a some raw files I will be really glad!
Thanks!
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I wounder if someone could help me, I wounder if any if you could upload a few DNG raw files?
A few photos in daylight and indoors.
Have search the whole web after raw files from Mate 9, only find a few from DPreview.
So if anyone could upload a some raw files I will be really glad!
Thanks!
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Here are some sample images for you. On my OneDrive, since the forum doesn't support .dng uploads directly. Feel free to browse through them. Both day and night, they look much worse, and don't have the optic correction, that the JPEGs have. Haven't found any lens correction profiles for the Mate 9 either sadly. Perhaps someone cares to make some? I may get a printer and make some of my own and share with everybody, but that's going to be a while. https://1drv.ms/f/s!AhHXH2_hyYaJhJtI_r3zpkJ7lqzpow Here they are!
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Here are some sample images for you. On my OneDrive, since the forum doesn't support .dng uploads directly. Feel free to browse through them. Both day and night, they look much worse, and don't have the optic correction, that the JPEGs have. Haven't found any lens correction profiles for the Mate 9 either sadly. Perhaps someone cares to make some? I may get a printer and make some of my own and share with everybody, but that's going to be a while. https://1drv.ms/f/s!AhHXH2_hyYaJhJtI_r3zpkJ7lqzpow Here they are!
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Thanks alot, if you got more I would be even more happier If you have some pictures on faces it would also be great, how the camera works on skintones.
As a photographer after trying a few dng files(from you and DPreivew) in Photoshop I can say that the the camera software processing is a bit off, to much noise reduction and wrong color. Even if the niose is higher on the DNG files it is more correct and sharper. More details.
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Thanks alot, if you got more I would be even more happier If you have some pictures on faces it would also be great, how the camera works on skintones.
As a photographer after trying a few dng files(from you and DPreivew) in Photoshop I can say that the the camera software processing is a bit off, to much noise reduction and wrong color. Even if the niose is higher on the DNG files it is more correct and sharper. More details.
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I'm glad you like them. Sadly I don't have any face photos, as I'm a landscape and astronomy photographer. I shoot in raw+jpeg and I'm happy with both formats. At least when walking around and not wanting to lug a heavy camera around. It's no Pentax K-1 though regarding image quality, but it's better then my old note 4 that's for sure! Plus, the .dng format allows me to mount the Mate 9 on a tripod and do some stacking and removal of dark frames for ubernice, mostly noise-free results!
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I'm glad you like them. Sadly I don't have any face photos, as I'm a landscape and astronomy photographer. I shoot in raw+jpeg and I'm happy with both formats. At least when walking around and not wanting to lug a heavy camera around. It's no Pentax K-1 though regarding image quality, but it's better then my old note 4 that's for sure! Plus, the .dng format allows me to mount the Mate 9 on a tripod and do some stacking and removal of dark frames for ubernice, mostly noise-free results!
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If you have more nature pics in DNG I would like to see them Daylight, rainy, foggy...
Nice to see that you like Astronomy, I take night sky picutres myself, haven an Nikon D800
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If you have more nature pics in DNG I would like to see them Daylight, rainy, foggy...
Nice to see that you like Astronomy, I take night sky picutres myself, haven an Nikon D800
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Mate 9 is all I currently have (well a replacement rear camera is on its way), I'm drooling over that Pentax though. Same sensor as in the D810 with a few Astronomical benefits. I will keep on uploading to that folder then, so check back frequently!
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Mate 9 is all I currently have (well a replacement rear camera is on its way), I'm drooling over that Pentax though. Same sensor as in the D810 with a few Astronomical benefits. I will keep on uploading to that folder then, so check back frequently!
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Thanks alot! Really kind of you.
Swan Princess said:
Mate 9 is all I currently have (well a replacement rear camera is on its way), I'm drooling over that Pentax though. Same sensor as in the D810 with a few Astronomical benefits. I will keep on uploading to that folder then, so check back frequently!
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@Swan Princess
Do you(or anyone else on this forum ) have any 4K loseless video file to upload? Would like to see from daylight and indoors.
The ones on youtube ara a bit bad.
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Do you(or anyone else on this forum ) have any 4K loseless video file to upload? Would like to see from daylight and indoors.
The ones on youtube ara a bit bad.
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I don't have any videos for now, but I'll let you know when I get some. Please keep in mind that they are encoded in HEVC / h.265, you'll need hardware that is able to decode it. So what will you use it all for again?
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I don't have any videos for now, but I'll let you know when I get some. Please keep in mind that they are encoded in HEVC / h.265, you'll need hardware that is able to decode it. So what will you use it all for again?
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I am extremly on details , Im in thought in buying an Mate 9 but I really need to see DNG and 4K in detail before buying it
I am a photographer and have high demands.
I am going to try an Mate 9 Pro tomorrow and wounder where the DNG RAW files is located in the storage on the phone?
Anyone here have any DNG photo from indoors with persons in the room?

Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Xiaomi Mi 9 come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Took a photo in Pro mode with telephoto zoom and it turned out well! It isn't even 48mp here
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love the chester pictures- any chance of posting more pictures. i think i have found my next phone.
QUOTE Took a photo in Pro mode with telephoto zoom and it turned out well! It isn't even 48mp here
Nice, France
Good light conditions.
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Nice, France
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It looks pretty noisy. I assume it is already scaled down?
What were the settings?
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It looks pretty noisy. I assume it is already scaled down?
What were the settings?
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Yeah a bit of noise on that one. Just default settings/auto, with HDR I think on that one. Gcam port should really unlock the potential of this hardware.
I am really liking the cam so far though...
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Yeah a bit of noise on that one. Just default settings/auto, with HDR I think on that one. Gcam port should really unlock the potential of this hardware.
I am really liking the cam so far though...
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Can you post the original size file ?
Curious to see it, as the people on the bench (lower left) look soft on the focus ....
I made a comparison between Huawei Mate 20 Pro and Xiaomi Mi 9.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/ecGsAyjPUKVQ7adX9
I'll gradually add more photos.
See the watermark to differentiate the phones.
Images without watermark were captured with the Google Pixel Port (in the dark with Nightsight)
Images were captured via point and shoot, both "AI" Features are enabled. Google Pixel with HDR+
Mate 20 superior in dark but that's no surprise. Solid cam on Mi9 nevertheless.
Im not very satisfied with the camera quality. It seems like that the mi9 is doing worse compared to what I was used from my Galaxy S7 or even with my Xiaomi Mi Mix 2s. Here a few pictures from yesterday. At some point the software seems to do to much magic and kills the quality. Plus, the software seems to be unstable and the camera crashed two times while taking pictures and was not able to connect again to the camera -> reboot / kill camera app and start it again.
All done with HDR Auto and AI on.
https://i.postimg.cc/k4WnVH3p/IMG-20190309-100054.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/9XtmCsB4/IMG-20190309-101147.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/Z5gZwmJQ/IMG-20190309-101815.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/c4xsHTDF/IMG-20190309-102122.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/RZq41hxf/IMG-20190309-104657.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/MGQw4LTp/IMG-20190309-112255.jpg
Same images as above but for what ever reason the preview does not work
WOW ! zooming into the originals and they look CRAP ! over use of oil painting effect....
I hear you - Im looking to upgrade from a S7 and picture quality is high on my list... that is not acceptable !
Are you using AI mode or other filtering options?
TLJester said:
WOW ! zooming into the originals and they look CRAP ! over use of oil painting effect....
I hear you - Im looking to upgrade from a S7 and picture quality is high on my list... that is not acceptable !
Are you using AI mode or other filtering options?
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HDR was set to "Auto" and AI was "On". No (other) filtering was used and yes, this oil painting wheen zooming in is insane. I really hope that this is just a bug and Xiomi will fix it soon, since even the Mi Mix 2s have not had that bad image quality.
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HDR was set to "Auto" and AI was "On". No (other) filtering was used and yes, this oil painting wheen zooming in is insane. I really hope that this is just a bug and Xiomi will fix it soon, since even the Mi Mix 2s have not had that bad image quality.
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Try turning AI off - i hear that messes up the end result worse then making it better
But agree - shouldn't need to turn off a feature that other manufactures dont have issues with ...
could someone install gcam and take some images on the mi9 with that?
TLJester said:
WOW ! zooming into the originals and they look CRAP ! over use of oil painting effect....
I hear you - Im looking to upgrade from a S7 and picture quality is high on my list... that is not acceptable !
Are you using AI mode or other filtering options?
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I have minimized this problem by changing the sharpless form the settings
Inviato dal mio MI 9 utilizzando Tapatalk
Rommco05 said:
auto / AI
https://drive.google.com/open?id=15XlkkmAXQRhsUyumqxdNDBEju3XZBj0r
HDR+ enhanced
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1YsseU8LYKM2F7Z_9_XcF7W-o3Yq0g4Hy
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Great shots!
Is there any possibility to shoot RAW (DNG) photos from stock camera apk? Can anybody post RAW photo from every MI9 sensor? (especialy from 48mp)
why mi9 uses very high iso in low light?
for example when other phones settings is about 1/17sec and iso 2000, mi9 setting is about 1/14 and iso +7000 !
even redmi note 7 iso is much lower.
alireza_asol said:
why mi9 uses very high iso in low light?
for example when other phones settings is about 1/17sec and iso 2000, mi9 setting is about 1/14 and iso +7000 !
even redmi note 7 iso is much lower.
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Interesting I thought that Mi9 is increasing iso to achive lower exposure time beacuse of lack of OIS, but dunno why other phones has the same time and lower iso while having the same aperture (about f/1.7) maybe Mi9's f/1.75 is fake?
Did you compare same light conditions photos?
PS Could someone post RAW from Mi9?

Normal camera photos look bit more blurred than normal? Bokeh effect?

Hi,
I received my Mi Note 10 and I've been testing the camera. Am I the only one that thinks that while taking normal outside pictures (27mp mode) the image taken has lots of blurriness and distortion? As of now I'm not really enjoying the phone.
Came from a Mi Note 3 which took amazing pictures.
RikoF1 said:
Hi,
I received my Mi Note 10 and I've been testing the camera. Am I the only one that thinks that while taking normal outside pictures (27mp mode) the image taken has lots of blurriness and distortion? As of now I'm not really enjoying the phone.
Came from a Mi Note 3 which took amazing pictures.
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Yes, I'm going through the same thing ... I can't get clear answers on this subject. Only thing I know the camera aperture is too big so taking close-up shots of the blur is terribly bad, I don't know if future updates will fix it. I came from a Mi 9 and his pictures were better than the Mi Note 10
You need to understand the implication applied when camera using a larger sensor. This is not only about apperture and lenses. I explain it in other thread.
But there is nothing we can do, even in Pro mode? We cannot setup the aperture, so the depth of field is quite ridiculous. Can have a clear picture of a bottle label if the camera is not exactly parallel lol
Is there something we can do to mitigate?
Airwave said:
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Is there something we can do to mitigate?
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Yes. You can edit the photos with photoshop.
rasik80 said:
Yes. You can edit the photos with photoshop.
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no you can't if they're blurry. i would also like to be able to take photos, where everything is in focus.
Kasallamacher said:
no you can't if they're blurry. i would also like to be able to take photos, where everything is in focus.
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Then put all your objects at least 2++ metres from camera
Kasallamacher said:
no you can't if they're blurry. i would also like to be able to take photos, where everything is in focus.
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Then buy another phone.
rasik80 said:
Then buy another phone.
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You're very funny
Kasallamacher said:
You're very funny
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I think he is being fair enough though. Because what you expect is like using a fix apperture lens on a full frame DSLR, and still expecting a result with wide depth of field unconditionally.
It's simply against the principal and law of the photography physics itself.
If you really need that, then you gonna need phone with either : smaller sensor, or less bright lens, or both.
I don't think it is, it's a question of software. I was sitting at a table wanting to take a photo of our cocktails. Mine was in focus, the one right behind already blurred. I understand that physically this is normal, but software should be able to take a photo with everything in focus.
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I don't think it is, it's a question of software. I was sitting at a table wanting to take a photo of our cocktails. Mine was in focus, the one right behind already blurred. I understand that physically this is normal, but software should be able to take a photo with everything in focus.
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Nah. You can think what you like then. The physics wont change. And every people who understand the theory behind depth of field, will agree.
I know what you expect the software to do though. Sharpen the object in background or do focus stacking. As for sharpening, it' just a pseudo focus, and i rather not having it at all. Focus stacking, though, is considerable,
If thats what you like, then just get yourself a photoshop and do some layer masking job, because no stock smartphone camera app implement focus stacking AFAIK. The closer you can get is by using "Open Camera" app and use the focus bracketing software.
You can 'kind of' fix the effect in software by using focus bracketing. Open Camera supports this and you specify how many photos to take and it will take that number at different focal lengths. Then you process the images with some stacking software like Helicon Focus which produces an image with a huge depth of field.
Of course, this is all more complicated than just pointing and pressing. A nice feature would be if the camera software takes all the photos and stacks them for you, but I doubt any camera software will do all this for you..
Cheers
Steve
Mine had a focusing problem and what I did? I’ve changed to full mode instead of 3:4. Regarding the focusing around the center, I don’t think there is a solution than using more the portrait mode.
I’m not a camera guy so these setting were enough for me.
RikoF1 said:
Hi,
I received my Mi Note 10 and I've been testing the camera. Am I the only one that thinks that while taking normal outside pictures (27mp mode) the image taken has lots of blurriness and distortion? As of now I'm not really enjoying the phone.
Came from a Mi Note 3 which took amazing pictures.
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What are you talking about
Here are one picture taken from me i dont think is blurry
Everything looks in focus

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