I've seen camera examples from the n5 which look great but mine look grainy..any ideas what settings do people use
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Try compare the exif info.
P.s. it is not a problem of setting, it just if you know some basic photography techniques.
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sorry, i got to laugh first.. lmao!
settings could be different for every single photo.
and @DummyPLUG said it right, its about learning some basic photography skills, and knowing some basic physics about light helps. one thing is for sure though, dont just press the button. touch the screen first, where you want it focused. point and click, youll get better looking photos as well.
Enable HDR.
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Enable HDR.
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why? i refuse to use it. photos that come out of hdr do look nice, but also lose out on a lot of detail, as tbe image size is also reduced.
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it is not a problem of setting, it just if you know some basic photography techniques.
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simms22 said:
settings could be different for every single photo.
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MrObvious said:
Enable HDR.
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and this, where ever possible.
see, i dont agree to enable hdr whenever possible. sure, overall images seem to look better. but you lose so much detail by using it. if detail is important to you, like the detail in my photos to me, than its the worst thing to do. as i can get a better looking "hdr" images by editing the photo after, than the hdr camera can capture.
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why? i refuse to use it. photos that come out of hdr do look nice, but also lose out on a lot of detail, as tbe image size is also reduced.
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To me, HDR + gives a truer account of the actual light conditions in front of the lens and also better pictures in lower light.
My HDR pictures are bigger. Just done a low light test. 800KB vs 1.2MB
Edit, oh maybe you mean resolution?
5992704 vs 583680 in my tests. 6mpx vs 5.8 - not a lot of detail really.
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To me, HDR + gives a truer account of the actual light conditions in front of the lens and also better pictures in lower light.
My HDR pictures are bigger. Just done a low light test. 800KB vs 1.2MB
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that's a 33.33% reduction in size. not counting the hdr effect which ruins the actual detail(zoom all the way in to look).
instead, id say use touch to focus whenever possible. as just pressing the button will give you an average focus over the whole image. but touch to focus will give you detail where you need it.
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that's a 30% reduction in size.
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Sorry, i though you were saying a smaller file size is a BAD thing. Im confused, are you now saying its BETTER?
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Sorry, i though you were saying a smaller file size is a BAD thing. Im confused, are you now saying its BETTER?
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wait, your saying the hdr photo is larger or smaller. to me it sounded like you said smaller.
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wait, your saying the hdr photo is larger or smaller. to me it sounded like you said smaller.
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Even though I used the word bigger?
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Even though I used the word bigger?
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the way you wrote the photo size.. but i just checked as well, pixel size is smaller in an hdr photo, not mb in the file size.
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the way you wrote the photo size.. but i just checked as well, pixel size is smaller in an hdr photo, not mb in the file size.
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To me, HDR+ looks sharper too.
I'd upload a couple of examples, but they get compressed on TT or Photobucket. Maybe G+ doesn't compress? That said, I don't like using my real name in forums so... hahah
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To me, HDR+ looks sharper too.
I'd upload a couple of examples, but they get compressed on TT or Photobucket. Maybe G+ doesn't compress? That said, I don't like using my real name in forums so... hahah
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na, g+ does as well.
i guess if you dont have much photography knowledge, then hdr+ might be good to use Lp
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na, g+ does as well.
i guess if you dont have much photography knowledge, then hdr+ might be good to use Lp
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Well HDR+ is designed to give more detail where a normal camera would lose in dark and light areas. To me the results are better on a phone where you cannot adjust the shutter speed, iso or aperture.
I think its very unfair to link the use of HDR+ to photography knowledge. Its about the result. I myself am a keen amateur photographer and understand photography principles well, but it doesn't change the fact that HDR+ gets more information on a point and shoot than without.
I guess its slightly subjective as to whether you like your photos accurate or not. But technically, HDR + is better
Edit.. For those who don't know what we're debating, here's a link
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-dynamic-range_imaging
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Well HDR+ is designed to give more detail where a normal camera would lose in dark and light areas. To me the results are better on a phone where you cannot adjust the shutter speed, iso or aperture.
I think its very unfair to link the use of HDR+ to photography knowledge. Its about the result. I myself am a keen amateur photographer and understand photography principles well, but it doesn't change the fact that HDR+ gets more information on a point and shoot than without.
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well.. detail. hdr does make darker areas lighter, as thats why i do make many images hdr like, or faux hdr. from that point of view, sure, details get somewhat better. well, not better but you can see the details better. but on another hand, when you look at the details when you zoom in, the tiny details, they are worse. but thats just because of the nature of hdr on mobile, on taking several images and meshing them together. in my photography, those tiny details are very important, since many of my photos are macro-like, and focus on a specific point while everything else blurs. using hdr+, it tends to not catch the fine details.
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well.. detail. hdr does make darker areas lighter, as thats why i do make many images hdr like, or faux hdr. from that point of view, sure, details get somewhat better. well, not better but you can see the details better. but on another hand, when you look at the details when you zoom in, the tiny details, they are worse. but thats just because of the nature of hdr on mobile, on taking several images and meshing them together. in my photography, those tiny details are very important, since many of my photos are macro-like, and focus on a specific point while everything else blurs. using hdr+, it tends to not catch the fine details.
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Well macro is a different kettle of fish. I use a completely different set up for macro, ie not a phone
To me a phone is for snaps. I find HDR+ gives a better snap
Anyways, whatever. Use it, don't. The op has enough info to decide now
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Well macro is a different kettle of fish. I use a completely different set up for macro, ie not a phone
To me a phone is for snaps. I find HDR+ gives a better snap
Anyways, whatever. Use it, don't. The op has enough info to decide now
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or use it in certain types of shots. anyways, its a personal preference. and absolutely!
@rootSU @simms22 people never understand this.
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HDR = High Dynamic Range, multiple (doesn't matter how many) pictures taken at different exposures and put together so you get everything exposed and nothing over/under-exposed.
HDR+ = Google's random magic algorithm for scene recognition, saturation fixing and contrast fixing, done with multiple (I think 2) images. Quoting Google; “With HDR+, create vivid photos by day and sharper photos by night.”
What Google calls "HDR+" only exists on the Nexus 5.
See this image: http://images.fonearena.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/htc-one-hdr-vs-nexus-5-hdr-plus.jpg
As you can see, the HDR image doesn't have anything over/under-exposed whereas the HDR+ image has it's subject underexposed.
HDR is NOT the same as HDR+.
Edit: also have to add that "HDR+" is limited to the Google Camera. If you download a 3rd party camera app to use on the Nexus 5 and it has a "HDR mode", it'll be actual HDR, rather than what Google calls "HDR+".
I'm pretty sure the algorithm for "HDR+" is closed source but its definitely not real High Dynamic Range.
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I haven't been impressed with the photos at all. Most of them are blurry. I know nothing about camera settings on this phone. Is there a guide out there somewhere?
Thanks!
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I haven't been impressed with the photos at all. Most of them are blurry. I know nothing about camera settings on this phone. Is there a guide out there somewhere?
Thanks!
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The camera sucks. Sucks defined as: takes blurry pictures in daylight. A total fail. The video is pretty good 'tho.
I love the camera. Takes better photos than my 3gs.
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I've been using the camera a lot and it's been really nice for me, for a phone camera, and I'm used to dslr's...
Side arrow>Gear (Settings)
Camera:
Page 3/5, check Anti-Shake
Page 4/5, check Auto contrast (can't remember if that is a default)
Wrench:
Just a personal preference, I set Review to 2 seconds to see the picture after it's taken.
Other than that, you just have to make sure the camera's focused on what you select before taking the picture, and it should be fine.
Make sure u tap on the screen to focus on the area u want to take the picture of.
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I haven't been impressed with the photos at all. Most of them are blurry. I know nothing about camera settings on this phone. Is there a guide out there somewhere?
Thanks!
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I have to agree with the OP, here. The images aren't so much blurry as they are highly compressed for some reason. I wonder if there's a way to lower the JPEG compression. It's like the images look good on the display, but when you look at them on your computer or (in the rare occasion) an iPhone 4's RetinaDisplay, you really see the compression artifacts. The video is not much better.
There must be a way to solve this.
I know it sounds obvious, but seriously make sure the camera lense isn't smudged before you start taking pictures. It's flush with the back of the phone and so really really easy to smudge with your fingers while handling the phone.
I was noticing how some pictures were insanely crisp and others were blurry in the same lighting conditions and everything, and I am pretty sure it's because of the lens being smudged. Just throwing that out there.
I'm just wondering, is it really good as some people say or is it just average? I didn't get a tracking number yet so I don't think I'll be able to test it myself for a while. Some shots you've taken recently would suffice, just to see the strengths of the camera.
The quality of the actual pictures are fine, but the real deal breaker is how slow it is. Even after achieving focus, there's always this 1-2 second delay after you hit the shutter button. It's terrible. It doesn't matter if the camera took the highest quality shots in RAW if it's too slow to capture anything you could consider a "moment."
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The quality of the actual pictures are fine, but the real deal breaker is how slow it is. Even after achieving focus, there's always this 1-2 second delay after you hit the shutter button. It's terrible. It doesn't matter if the camera took the highest quality shots in RAW if it's too slow to capture anything you could consider a "moment."
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On mine, an HDR+ shot acquires focus and snaps the picture in about 1 second. Regular shots take maybe half a second or less.
aznxk3vi17 said:
The quality of the actual pictures are fine, but the real deal breaker is how slow it is. Even after achieving focus, there's always this 1-2 second delay after you hit the shutter button. It's terrible. It doesn't matter if the camera took the highest quality shots in RAW if it's too slow to capture anything you could consider a "moment."
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Which mode are you speaking of?
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On mine, an HDR+ shot acquires focus and snaps the picture in about 1 second. Regular shots take maybe half a second or less.
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That's not bad, but not insanely fast. If pictures took only a second I wouldn't mind but if it is as bad as he says, then I might have to download Focal and see how that works.
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On mine, an HDR+ shot acquires focus and snaps the picture in about 1 second. Regular shots take maybe half a second or less.
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I would agree with this experience. The camera app itself loads fairy quickly too: 4 seconds from touching the camera icon to having the photo snapped and saved to storage.
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Which mode are you speaking of?
That's not bad, but not insanely fast. If pictures took only a second I wouldn't mind but if it is as bad as he says, then I might have to download Focal and see how that works.
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I also like how it maintains focus based on facial recognition.
It's alright.
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Which mode are you speaking of?
That's not bad, but not insanely fast. If pictures took only a second I wouldn't mind but if it is as bad as he says, then I might have to download Focal and see how that works.
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Just tried Focal and it couldn't take any pictures. Might need an update before it works.
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Just tried Focal and it couldn't take any pictures. Might need an update before it works.
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It's probably not compatible with Kit Kat yet. Are there reviewers having the same issues?
I actually think the camera is pretty good. About the same as a iPhone 5s. Definitely not great though. However, the app sucks. Right now I'm using Camera MX and it's better than the stock app. Mine is pretty fast BTW. Not a long time between shots.
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I actually think the camera is pretty good. About the same as a iPhone 5s. Definitely not great though. However, the app sucks. Right now I'm using Camera MX and it's better than the stock app. Mine is pretty fast BTW. Not a long time between shots.
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Does Camera MX take burst shots?
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Does Camera MX take burst shots?
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Nah, not that I can tell. But there are plenty of free camera apps that will probably perform better than the stock.
I think the camera is very good considering the overall top of the line phone specs vs price.
The OIS works amazing, try it, you can really shake the phone around and the image stays perfectly still - really what a small low mass smartphone needs! As even just tapping the screen to take a photo causes blurred photos.
I also like how it uses the flash to help you pre-focus, something my Desire Z never did, even with JB.
HDR+ is also pretty amazing, I can't fault it yet in my limited use, the photos come out much more vibrant, very impressive for the phone's small size!
Now what is bad is the shutter lag, between taking photos and when pressing the shutter, even if pre-focused... Come on Google, please fix that in your next update .
Other phones take photos a lot faster.
god camera is amazing well down google
i am in love with this phone its surpassed all the non ois equipped device like iphone5s, s4, even not 3 in low light
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digweed4me said:
god camera is amazing well down google
i am in love with this phone its surpassed all the non ois equipped device like iphone5s, s4, even not 3 in low light
hdr+
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I'm impressed. I'm wondering how it does macro shots, that the real thing I want to know. Are those with HDR+ enabled?
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I'm just wondering, is it really good as some people say or is it just average? I didn't get a tracking number yet so I don't think I'll be able to test it myself for a while. Some shots you've taken recently would suffice, just to see the strengths of the camera.
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Better than the wifes iPhone5 is my rating. It's better is daylight, better is low light, better at HDR, and the photosphere is a game changer.
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I'm impressed. I'm wondering how it does macro shots, that the real thing I want to know. Are those with HDR+ enabled?
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Macro is very good
This shot was just testing out closer photos - I think I could go even closer. HDR+ was off so these are just standard quick shots.
I have attached a photo which I guess will be higher res, and also put it on imgur for the guests viewing.
You can see tiny bits of specs of dust and paint on the rotor blade (rc model heli), very good quality. The blade is covered in oil btw...
http://imgur.com/fBNSRIl
The bokeh is not bad either!
Oh, and reviewing photos on the HD display is beautiful, you can easily see if they are sharp and the colours / clarity is spot on even in daylight.
few more on both regular and hdr +
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I'm impressed. I'm wondering how it does macro shots, that the real thing I want to know. Are those with HDR+ enabled?
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top one is hdr +
and one thing why ppl complaining about slow focus mine is almost instant focus and camera shots.
Compared to the Galaxy Nexus camera, I think the camera of the Nexus 5 is an improvement. It performs way better under suboptimal lighting conditions, and it supports HDR which snaps really nice pics with good colors.
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Macro is very good
This shot was just testing out closer photos - I think I could go even closer. HDR+ was off so these are just standard quick shots.
I have attached a photo which I guess will be higher res, and also put it on imgur for the guests viewing.
You can see tiny bits of specs of dust and paint on the rotor blade (rc model heli), very good quality. The blade is covered in oil btw...
http://imgur.com/fBNSRIl
The bokeh is not bad either!
Oh, and reviewing photos on the HD display is beautiful, you can easily see if they are sharp and the colours / clarity is spot on even in daylight.
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This is beyond expectation. Do you have an example of a pure bokeh, pure isn't what I mean, but like, a shot and then the background is completely bokeh.
Quite disappointed. Tried two roms, CM and xnph300 camera. With/without "Clear image". Photos are washed out compared to Nexus 5.
Attached are two photos of a mousepad with a woman's picture on it. One is "Clear image", opo. One is Nexus 5.
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Here is a series of three landscapes. LTR: iPhone 5, Nexus 5, OPO (Clear Image)
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From p. 4 of this thread
There's a thread on IUNI rom over in the Android Dev thread. Short takes
- Everyone loves the UI and camera
- Got to flash a CM recovery to get it to load
- Got to use ColorOS gapps - especially to get english to work. (link in thread, not on OP)
- Got to get the latest beta (link in the thread, not on OP) to get play store to work
- Battery usage poor - although, as usual one or two say not so.
Guess I'll hold off for a while - don't have time to flail around with it rt. now.
It's not washed out. It's white balance problem in my opinion.
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Yep. Still...
I agree... The camera is extremely mediocre. I have tried different apps and settings and the pictures come out dull and kinda grainy.
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This photo came straight from the camera, just minor cropping to the background. Exif data shows it came from
the OnePlus. This was taken with the program Camera FV-5, in macro mode.
I disagree completely. The camera is just fine if you know how to use it.
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I disagree completely. The camera is just fine if you know how to use it.
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It may be "fine", but it sux.
Oh, "how to use it". Hmm. Leme think. Point at subject. Hit the button.
That what you mean? That's what I did with the samples I posted. You'll note that the OPO sux.
If what you mean by "how to use it" is, ah, flail around, set "smart screen" with Focus mode = "macro" - or similar, I'll go with "Sux".
Sheesh.
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I could be wrong. Never happened before, but always a first time. Perhaps you'd deign to share your considerable expertise with Android cameras in the form of just one or two pointers for us hoi-polloi
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This photo came straight from the camera, just minor cropping to the background. Exif data shows it came from
the OnePlus. This was taken with the program Camera FV-5, in macro mode.
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Seems you are confused. "Straight from the camera" it did not come - as you say in the third sentence. Yes, keeping things straight for three sentences is a pain...
For the record, and to explicitly say what's implicit in my original post, iPhone and Nexus 5 don't require "pro" cameras or special settings to take decent pics.
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It may be "fine", but it sux.
Oh, "how to use it". Hmm. Leme think. Point at subject. Hit the button.
That what you mean? That's what I did with the samples I posted. You'll note that the OPO sux.
If what you mean by "how to use it" is, ah, flail around, set "smart screen" with Focus mode = "macro" - or similar, I'll go with "Sux".
Sheesh.
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You just made my point for me.
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The camera does not "sux". It's in fact a very capable camera. It's no Galaxy S5, but it does the job, and then some. I take 98% of my pictures in HDR so maybe that has something to do with it. But I'm pretty content with it regardless; it could be much, much worse.
Can you try ColorOS? I also had a Nexus 5 and found the camera on the Opo a bit grainy, over-exposed etc using CM11s
I can assure you that I enjoy the camera a lot more now.
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Can you try ColorOS? I also had a Nexus 5 and found the camera on the Opo a bit grainy, over-exposed etc using CM11s
I can assure you that I enjoy the camera a lot more now.
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I want to run "standard" roms such as Mahdi, etc. I'll try to get the APK and maybe break down and try the rom itself. Thanks for the suggestion. Don't want the perfect camera, just one that is not so dramatically mediocre.
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Looks like getting the APK is hard. Sigh.
Use HDR
After much flailing, I see that using the HDR setting will get acceptable pics. Not great yet, but acceptable. To me.
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Seems you are confused. "Straight from the camera" it did not come - as you say in the third sentence. Yes, keeping things straight for three sentences is a pain...
For the record, and to explicitly say what's implicit in my original post, iPhone and Nexus 5 don't require "pro" cameras or special settings to take decent pics.
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Well, excuse me for not being 1000% truthful from your mind. I never use the default camera app, but, I have used the camera app that comes with the one, and it does quite well. Perhaps later, I will take one, using the default camera app to show you that it does a good job, and, as with most errors with phone cameras, it is the operator who does not know how to compose, focus and HOLD IT STILL.
Please forgive me for not being 1000% accurate in my statement. My point was this was from the camera, without any editing or photoshopping in any way. {sarcasm off}
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After much flailing, I see that using the HDR setting will get acceptable pics. Not great yet, but acceptable. To me.
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Wut... the HDR produces terrible colors and exaggerated HDR photos that belong in reddit.com/r/****tyhdr
Anyone know what toggling each profile with a filled white circle does (HDR, Clear Image, Night, Mono, Sepia and so on)? Is it using a combination of all enabled profiles?
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Wut... the HDR produces terrible colors and exaggerated HDR photos that belong in reddit.com/r/****tyhdr
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"for me"...
I reserve the right to change my mind.
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Anyone know what toggling each profile with a filled white circle does (HDR, Clear Image, Night, Mono, Sepia and so on)? Is it using a combination of all enabled profiles?
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It allows you to quickly access the toggled modes by sliding up or down on the screen.
I got both phones and OPO camera is way better than the Nexus 5
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"for me"...
I reserve the right to change my mind.
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it seems that ColorOS Camera seems to make a HUGE difference compared to CM in terms of quality. (it was reported and review this one on Find 7 witch has same optics, that w/ CM camera seems way worst than on ColorOS)
so my suggestion is to try the whole ColorOS ROM (stable or beta) or Iuni ROM (this one has Oppo's Camera app ) and then you'll see the full power of this hardware piece
Someone posted this about the Z2 and why you need to root it in order to get the best camera resolution:
Basically it gives you the option to do things you normally couldn't. Install custom software. Delete apps that normally can't be deleted. Modifications to things like camera (eg the phone currently only uses 8mp in superior auto, but the mod allows it to use 20mp in superior) all kinds of tweaks and stuff that without root access, you wouldn't be able to install.
So does anyone know if the Z3 will have this issue resolved or will you still need to root it in order to get 20MP in Superior Auto Mode? I think it's so stupid that you have to root it in order to get that. It should be a choice, not forced. Hopefully it won't need to be.
Any info would be appreciated.
Thank You,
RockStar2005
RockStar2005 said:
Someone posted this about the Z2 and why you need to root it in order to get the best camera resolution:
Basically it gives you the option to do things you normally couldn't. Install custom software. Delete apps that normally can't be deleted. Modifications to things like camera (eg the phone currently only uses 8mp in superior auto, but the mod allows it to use 20mp in superior) all kinds of tweaks and stuff that without root access, you wouldn't be able to install.
So does anyone know if the Z3 will have this issue resolved or will you still need to root it in order to get 20MP in Superior Auto Mode? I think it's so stupid that you have to root it in order to get that. It should be a choice, not forced. Hopefully it won't need to be.
Any info would be appreciated.
Thank You,
RockStar2005
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Yes. because 20/21MP is standard on 4:3 aspect ratio.
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Yes. because 20/21MP is standard on 4:3 aspect ratio.
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Hey Electrash,
Sorry, did you mean yes it's been resolved on the Z3 or yes the Z3 will still need to be rooted in order to get 20/21MPs in Superior Auto Mode?
Thanks,
RockStar2005
Yes, you will need root to use 20.7 in SA.
But why do you need it, you need to have screen like cinema paper to watch 20.7 mp in native size.
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Yes, you will need root to use 20.7 in SA.
But why do you need it, you need to have screen like cinema paper to watch 20.7 mp in native size.
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Ugghh ok. lol Thanks Electrash!
I just want the best. lol
Well when I transfer those pics to my pc and view them, I would think the difference would be noticeable? I mean 8 vs 20.7 sounds like a huge difference to me, even if both are still Sony-based. It's not quite cinema size, but my PC screen (21") is still much bigger than any phone screen I'll ever have.
What u guys think?
RockStar2005
http://web.forret.com/tools/megapixel.asp?width=5400&height=3600
Check this site 75inch*50inch is size of native picture at 19.4MP.
Also I doubt that you have 5600*3600 screen resolution, that means half of this pixels won't even be shown, unless you zoom in a lot.
But again, who takes picture to zoom like telescope.
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http://web.forret.com/tools/megapixel.asp?width=5400&height=3600
Check this site 75inch*50inch is size of native picture at 19.4MP.
Also I doubt that you have 5600*3600 screen resolution, that means half of this pixels won't even be shown, unless you zoom in a lot.
But again, who takes picture to zoom like telescope.
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Ok took a look at it. Thank you.
Well that's the thing....... I wouldn't say I zoom in a lot, but sometimes I do. It's just nice to know that when I do, the sharpness won't fade away.
So you think the quality of Superior Auto Mode at 8MPs will still be really nice? I just don't get why they can't let ppl choose for themselves? I hate being forced to choose stuff. That's one of the main reasons why I stick with Android over like Apple is b/c of the choice, the freedom. If I got it I may root it, or not. Who knows.
RockStar2005
8MP is more then enough for everything that we "little" people want to do with pictures. Trust me, I was against that, but since I research a lot, I found out that I don't need more then 8MP.
In my situation, I have 15.6inch HD screen. That means even 2MP are enough to be shown in native size, everything beyond that is for sharpness.
Why they don't let you choose, well I don't know, but I heard that SA downscale 20mp in 8MP for better image. But don't use this as true because I didn't search for this one.
Take a research if that is true, and then try to research how downscale makes photo.
(lumia 1020 Downscale her 41mp to around 15 as I remember)
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electrash said:
8MP is more then enough for everything that we "little" people want to do with pictures. Trust me, I was against that, but since I research a lot, I found out that I don't need more then 8MP.
In my situation, I have 15.6inch HD screen. That means even 2MP are enough to be shown in native size, everything beyond that is for sharpness.
Why they don't let you choose, well I don't know, but I heard that SA downscale 20mp in 8MP for better image. But don't use this as true because I didn't search for this one.
Take a research if that is true, and then try to research how downscale makes photo.
(lumia 1020 Downscale her 41mp to around 15 as I remember)
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lol I dunno....... I have a Sony camera, 16.2 megapixels.......... and it's a fantastic camera! Carl Zeiss lens and everything! So I am picky about that stuff.
How does downscaling a 20MP pic to 8MPs make it better?
I actually tested the Nokia Lumia 1020 this past week for a phone survey/focus group I'm doing. It wasn't a bad phone really, but 41MP camera? It's a joke man. The pics came out like nothing special at all. Obviously when it comes to cameras, there's a lot more than just MPs at play (focus, light sensitivity, flash, etc). But Sony knows that and incorporates a great deal of that knowledge into their cameras and phone cameras too. I'm not surprised you said 41 to 15MPs for the Lumia, because I swear, the pics I took on the 1020 LOOKED like they were not even 15MPs. I don't get why they advertise 40MPs if it gets downscaled? At least with the Z3 you can get 20.7MPs if you use normal mode. I just don't know man. We'll see what happens.
RockStar2005
RockStar2005 said:
lol I dunno....... I have a Sony camera, 16.2 megapixels.......... and it's a fantastic camera! Carl Zeiss lens and everything! So I am picky about that stuff.
How does downscaling a 20MP pic to 8MPs make it better?
I actually tested the Nokia Lumia 1020 this past week for a phone survey/focus group I'm doing. It wasn't a bad phone really, but 41MP camera? It's a joke man. The pics came out like nothing special at all. Obviously when it comes to cameras, there's a lot more than just MPs at play (focus, light sensitivity, flash, etc). But Sony knows that and incorporates a great deal of that knowledge into their cameras and phone cameras too. I'm not surprised you said 41 to 15MPs for the Lumia, because I swear, the pics I took on the 1020 LOOKED like they were not even 15MPs. I don't get why they advertise 40MPs if it gets downscaled? At least with the Z3 you can get 20.7MPs if you use normal mode. I just don't know man. We'll see what happens.
RockStar2005
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Even worst, 1020 take pictures in 5MP in their "Superior Auto"
electrash said:
Even worst, 1020 take pictures in 5MP in their "Superior Auto"
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OMG really? That's awful!! lol
Let me know about your answer too: How does downscaling a 20MP pic to 8MPs make it better?
Thanks,
RockStar2005
electrash said:
Even worst, 1020 take pictures in 5MP in their "Superior Auto"
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Electrash.........I think I got my answer:
Saw this review on the Z3. Some interesting things on the camera on page 3. Sample pics at bottom look pretty sharp to me, even when zoomed in: http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Sony-Xperia-Z3-Review_id3795/page/3
The Sony Xperia Z3's camera user interface is mostly easy to use, especially when you're sticking with Sony's Superior Auto mode, which attempts to automatically pick the best settings for you, depending on the scene you're trying to photograph, and tends to be pretty accurate most of the time. By default, the Sony Xperia Z3's Superior Auto mode shoots at 8 MP. It does use the full resolution of the 20 MP sensor, but scales the pictures down - this way, the user ends up with high-quality 8 MP photos of 'easy-to-share' size that don't exhibit less visible artifacts when viewed in actual size.
We were, frankly, surprised to see how natural the color representation of images taken with the Sony Xperia Z3 is. Sony usually boosts the color saturation and contrast a bit (or a lot), resulting in flashy hues, which are not representing the scene in front of the lens in a completely credible manner. With the Z3, however, Sony tweaked takes a what-you-see-is-what-you-get approach, producing natural colors. The automatic white balance measurements are valid with most every shot, leaving no weird overcasts in the scene. Last, but not least, the phone is able to grab a fine amount of detail..
Feel free to read the whole 4 page review if you like: http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Sony-Xperia-Z3-Review_id3795
RockStar2005
RockStar2005 said:
Electrash.........I think I got my answer:
Saw this review on the Z3. Some interesting things on the camera on page 3. Sample pics at bottom look pretty sharp to me, even when zoomed in: http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Sony-Xperia-Z3-Review_id3795/page/3
The Sony Xperia Z3's camera user interface is mostly easy to use, especially when you're sticking with Sony's Superior Auto mode, which attempts to automatically pick the best settings for you, depending on the scene you're trying to photograph, and tends to be pretty accurate most of the time. By default, the Sony Xperia Z3's Superior Auto mode shoots at 8 MP. It does use the full resolution of the 20 MP sensor, but scales the pictures down - this way, the user ends up with high-quality 8 MP photos of 'easy-to-share' size that don't exhibit less visible artifacts when viewed in actual size.
We were, frankly, surprised to see how natural the color representation of images taken with the Sony Xperia Z3 is. Sony usually boosts the color saturation and contrast a bit (or a lot), resulting in flashy hues, which are not representing the scene in front of the lens in a completely credible manner. With the Z3, however, Sony tweaked takes a what-you-see-is-what-you-get approach, producing natural colors. The automatic white balance measurements are valid with most every shot, leaving no weird overcasts in the scene. Last, but not least, the phone is able to grab a fine amount of detail..
Feel free to read the whole 4 page review if you like: http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Sony-Xperia-Z3-Review_id3795
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Thanks for sharing. I will take a look of course because I am interested in this stuff.
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Sorry for double post.
Mobile app double post because of lack Internet connection.
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I zoom in and crop on most pics and wife's S5 is better than my z2 as when I try and zoom and crop my pics are lacking in detail so I think in some cases more mp are better. Depends on what you want. 8mp is not always enough for certain situations.
Hi. I would like to thank you all for this interesting topic. I learned a lot about how the Z3 camera works and what's the point of 8MP/20MP
bel57 said:
Hi. I would like to thank you all for this interesting topic. I learned a lot about how the Z3 camera works and what's the point of 8MP/20MP
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No problem bel!
RockStar2005
Hi,
I received my Mi Note 10 and I've been testing the camera. Am I the only one that thinks that while taking normal outside pictures (27mp mode) the image taken has lots of blurriness and distortion? As of now I'm not really enjoying the phone.
Came from a Mi Note 3 which took amazing pictures.
RikoF1 said:
Hi,
I received my Mi Note 10 and I've been testing the camera. Am I the only one that thinks that while taking normal outside pictures (27mp mode) the image taken has lots of blurriness and distortion? As of now I'm not really enjoying the phone.
Came from a Mi Note 3 which took amazing pictures.
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Yes, I'm going through the same thing ... I can't get clear answers on this subject. Only thing I know the camera aperture is too big so taking close-up shots of the blur is terribly bad, I don't know if future updates will fix it. I came from a Mi 9 and his pictures were better than the Mi Note 10
You need to understand the implication applied when camera using a larger sensor. This is not only about apperture and lenses. I explain it in other thread.
But there is nothing we can do, even in Pro mode? We cannot setup the aperture, so the depth of field is quite ridiculous. Can have a clear picture of a bottle label if the camera is not exactly parallel lol
Is there something we can do to mitigate?
Airwave said:
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Is there something we can do to mitigate?
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Yes. You can edit the photos with photoshop.
rasik80 said:
Yes. You can edit the photos with photoshop.
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no you can't if they're blurry. i would also like to be able to take photos, where everything is in focus.
Kasallamacher said:
no you can't if they're blurry. i would also like to be able to take photos, where everything is in focus.
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Then put all your objects at least 2++ metres from camera
Kasallamacher said:
no you can't if they're blurry. i would also like to be able to take photos, where everything is in focus.
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Then buy another phone.
rasik80 said:
Then buy another phone.
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You're very funny
Kasallamacher said:
You're very funny
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I think he is being fair enough though. Because what you expect is like using a fix apperture lens on a full frame DSLR, and still expecting a result with wide depth of field unconditionally.
It's simply against the principal and law of the photography physics itself.
If you really need that, then you gonna need phone with either : smaller sensor, or less bright lens, or both.
I don't think it is, it's a question of software. I was sitting at a table wanting to take a photo of our cocktails. Mine was in focus, the one right behind already blurred. I understand that physically this is normal, but software should be able to take a photo with everything in focus.
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I don't think it is, it's a question of software. I was sitting at a table wanting to take a photo of our cocktails. Mine was in focus, the one right behind already blurred. I understand that physically this is normal, but software should be able to take a photo with everything in focus.
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Nah. You can think what you like then. The physics wont change. And every people who understand the theory behind depth of field, will agree.
I know what you expect the software to do though. Sharpen the object in background or do focus stacking. As for sharpening, it' just a pseudo focus, and i rather not having it at all. Focus stacking, though, is considerable,
If thats what you like, then just get yourself a photoshop and do some layer masking job, because no stock smartphone camera app implement focus stacking AFAIK. The closer you can get is by using "Open Camera" app and use the focus bracketing software.
You can 'kind of' fix the effect in software by using focus bracketing. Open Camera supports this and you specify how many photos to take and it will take that number at different focal lengths. Then you process the images with some stacking software like Helicon Focus which produces an image with a huge depth of field.
Of course, this is all more complicated than just pointing and pressing. A nice feature would be if the camera software takes all the photos and stacks them for you, but I doubt any camera software will do all this for you..
Cheers
Steve
Mine had a focusing problem and what I did? I’ve changed to full mode instead of 3:4. Regarding the focusing around the center, I don’t think there is a solution than using more the portrait mode.
I’m not a camera guy so these setting were enough for me.
RikoF1 said:
Hi,
I received my Mi Note 10 and I've been testing the camera. Am I the only one that thinks that while taking normal outside pictures (27mp mode) the image taken has lots of blurriness and distortion? As of now I'm not really enjoying the phone.
Came from a Mi Note 3 which took amazing pictures.
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What are you talking about
Here are one picture taken from me i dont think is blurry
Everything looks in focus