Camera very mediocre: Sorta "fixed" - use HDR. See also IUNI Rom in Dev - ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Quite disappointed. Tried two roms, CM and xnph300 camera. With/without "Clear image". Photos are washed out compared to Nexus 5.
Attached are two photos of a mousepad with a woman's picture on it. One is "Clear image", opo. One is Nexus 5.
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Here is a series of three landscapes. LTR: iPhone 5, Nexus 5, OPO (Clear Image)
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From p. 4 of this thread
There's a thread on IUNI rom over in the Android Dev thread. Short takes
- Everyone loves the UI and camera
- Got to flash a CM recovery to get it to load
- Got to use ColorOS gapps - especially to get english to work. (link in thread, not on OP)
- Got to get the latest beta (link in the thread, not on OP) to get play store to work
- Battery usage poor - although, as usual one or two say not so.
Guess I'll hold off for a while - don't have time to flail around with it rt. now.

It's not washed out. It's white balance problem in my opinion.
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Yep. Still...

I agree... The camera is extremely mediocre. I have tried different apps and settings and the pictures come out dull and kinda grainy.
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This photo came straight from the camera, just minor cropping to the background. Exif data shows it came from
the OnePlus. This was taken with the program Camera FV-5, in macro mode.

I disagree completely. The camera is just fine if you know how to use it.
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I disagree completely. The camera is just fine if you know how to use it.
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It may be "fine", but it sux.
Oh, "how to use it". Hmm. Leme think. Point at subject. Hit the button.
That what you mean? That's what I did with the samples I posted. You'll note that the OPO sux.
If what you mean by "how to use it" is, ah, flail around, set "smart screen" with Focus mode = "macro" - or similar, I'll go with "Sux".
Sheesh.
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p51d007 said:
This photo came straight from the camera, just minor cropping to the background. Exif data shows it came from
the OnePlus. This was taken with the program Camera FV-5, in macro mode.
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Seems you are confused. "Straight from the camera" it did not come - as you say in the third sentence. Yes, keeping things straight for three sentences is a pain...
For the record, and to explicitly say what's implicit in my original post, iPhone and Nexus 5 don't require "pro" cameras or special settings to take decent pics.

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It may be "fine", but it sux.
Oh, "how to use it". Hmm. Leme think. Point at subject. Hit the button.
That what you mean? That's what I did with the samples I posted. You'll note that the OPO sux.
If what you mean by "how to use it" is, ah, flail around, set "smart screen" with Focus mode = "macro" - or similar, I'll go with "Sux".
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The camera does not "sux". It's in fact a very capable camera. It's no Galaxy S5, but it does the job, and then some. I take 98% of my pictures in HDR so maybe that has something to do with it. But I'm pretty content with it regardless; it could be much, much worse.

Can you try ColorOS? I also had a Nexus 5 and found the camera on the Opo a bit grainy, over-exposed etc using CM11s
I can assure you that I enjoy the camera a lot more now.

lukesan said:
Can you try ColorOS? I also had a Nexus 5 and found the camera on the Opo a bit grainy, over-exposed etc using CM11s
I can assure you that I enjoy the camera a lot more now.
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I want to run "standard" roms such as Mahdi, etc. I'll try to get the APK and maybe break down and try the rom itself. Thanks for the suggestion. Don't want the perfect camera, just one that is not so dramatically mediocre.
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Looks like getting the APK is hard. Sigh.

Use HDR
After much flailing, I see that using the HDR setting will get acceptable pics. Not great yet, but acceptable. To me.

ibilln said:
Seems you are confused. "Straight from the camera" it did not come - as you say in the third sentence. Yes, keeping things straight for three sentences is a pain...
For the record, and to explicitly say what's implicit in my original post, iPhone and Nexus 5 don't require "pro" cameras or special settings to take decent pics.
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Well, excuse me for not being 1000% truthful from your mind. I never use the default camera app, but, I have used the camera app that comes with the one, and it does quite well. Perhaps later, I will take one, using the default camera app to show you that it does a good job, and, as with most errors with phone cameras, it is the operator who does not know how to compose, focus and HOLD IT STILL.
Please forgive me for not being 1000% accurate in my statement. My point was this was from the camera, without any editing or photoshopping in any way. {sarcasm off}

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After much flailing, I see that using the HDR setting will get acceptable pics. Not great yet, but acceptable. To me.
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Wut... the HDR produces terrible colors and exaggerated HDR photos that belong in reddit.com/r/****tyhdr

Anyone know what toggling each profile with a filled white circle does (HDR, Clear Image, Night, Mono, Sepia and so on)? Is it using a combination of all enabled profiles?

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Wut... the HDR produces terrible colors and exaggerated HDR photos that belong in reddit.com/r/****tyhdr
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"for me"...
I reserve the right to change my mind.

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Anyone know what toggling each profile with a filled white circle does (HDR, Clear Image, Night, Mono, Sepia and so on)? Is it using a combination of all enabled profiles?
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It allows you to quickly access the toggled modes by sliding up or down on the screen.

I got both phones and OPO camera is way better than the Nexus 5

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"for me"...
I reserve the right to change my mind.
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it seems that ColorOS Camera seems to make a HUGE difference compared to CM in terms of quality. (it was reported and review this one on Find 7 witch has same optics, that w/ CM camera seems way worst than on ColorOS)
so my suggestion is to try the whole ColorOS ROM (stable or beta) or Iuni ROM (this one has Oppo's Camera app ) and then you'll see the full power of this hardware piece

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Blurry camera images.

Is anyone having issues with the camera? When I pinch to zoom in, I find the camera not properly focusing. This seems to occur no matter if it on single shot, hdr, etc. Its not ALL photos, just moist of them. Used to have thunderbolt and did not experience this type of issue there. The reviews praised the s3 camera, so i am disappointed. Anyone have any advice? Thanks
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Unfortunately I also am experiencing this same problem. I dont have a real solution but to use an alternative camera application, and hope it helps.
Try a diff gallery. I found sometimes the gallery will not focus in. Although sometimes I have found myself dissapointed in the camera. There are 2 different cameras in the s3 one is app lower quality.
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You're not alone! The camera is almost always blurry for me, and sadly, bad enough for me to say this camera SUCKS. I really hope this is a firmware issue.
I've looked at the pictures on my computer as well, and they're just not nearly focused.
+1 on all of it for me
So let me get this straight:
While you're in camera mode, about to take a picture, and you pinch to zoom-in, the photo gets blurry?
Or are you talking about in the gallery when you pinch-to-zoom on a picture you've already taken?
If it's the former, I believe it's one of two things: 1) firmware issue, or 2) hardware issue. If it is indeed a hardware issue, you can probably get a replacement free of charge from Verizon.
If it's the latter, I think you just have to wait a few seconds for the phone to show you the high-res version instead of the low-quality blurry snapshot.
My sister has the same issue on her Galaxy Nexus. But I'm assuming that's not the case, since the blurriness usually goes away in a matter of seconds?
I've found the camera pretty crummy in anything but full-light settings. It's really frustrating.
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I've found the camera pretty crummy in anything but full-light settings..
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That statement pretty much applies to any camera/phone.
One thing you guys might want to try is using the app "CameraFX"
CameraFX has a pretty cool feature that allows you to take a pic by voice activation. I find the camera phones are much harder to hold steady and take a clear shot than a real DC (& I'm a pro photographer). Using the voice activation allows you to hold the camera super steady & then just say a word like now or smile etc when you're ready to take the shot.
I have my camera set to take a shot with the volume button, but the voice activation is still easier to use IMHO.
jmorton10 said:
That statement pretty much applies to any camera/phone.
One thing you guys might want to try is using the app "CameraFX"
CameraFX has a pretty cool feature that allows you to take a pic by voice activation. I find the camera phones are much harder to hold steady and take a clear shot than a real DC (& I'm a pro photographer). Using the voice activation allows you to hold the camera super steady & then just say a word like now or smile etc when you're ready to take the shot.
I have my camera set to take a shot with the volume button, but the voice activation is still easier to use IMHO.
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This camera doesn't focus properly. Period. I'll do side-by-side shots with my Rezound and iPhone. The GS3 camera is woeful in anything but full, natural light.
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This camera doesn't focus properly. Period. I'll do side-by-side shots with my Rezound and iPhone. The GS3 camera is woeful in anything but full, natural light.
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I agree that the Rezound camera is better, I have three Rezounds & the camera is super (for a phone camera).
I really have not had any focusing issues with the G3 although I don't use it a whole lot because I usually have access to a real DC.
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My sister has the same issue on her Galaxy Nexus.
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That's another issue entirely, the Nexus is notorious for having an atrociously bad camera.
+1, I have noticed that a lot of my pics are coming out blurry, I thought it was maybe because the camera was sensative to the slightest twitch and that I was maybe moving it mid shot.
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+1, I have noticed that a lot of my pics are coming out blurry, I thought it was maybe because the camera was sensative to the slightest twitch and that I was maybe moving it mid shot.
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I think it is to some extent, turn on anti-shake, but that doesn't totally fix it. It's pretty frustrating that this phone seems like a step backwards in terms of camera.
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+1, I have noticed that a lot of my pics are coming out blurry, I thought it was maybe because the camera was sensative to the slightest twitch and that I was maybe moving it mid shot.
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That is why I posted what I did about CameraFX.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/59294739/miui.camera.apk
This miui camera works pretty well just install the apk no changes to permission needed. It does not use the ffc so use stock app for that.
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That's another issue entirely, the Nexus is notorious for having an atrociously bad camera.
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I'm not talking about the camera quality, itself. I mean in the gallery, when you're looking through pictures you've already taken, the pictures are a bit blurry at first, but then clear up into the original (higher) resolution.
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I'm not talking about the camera quality, itself. I mean in the gallery, when you're looking through pictures you've already taken, the pictures are a bit blurry at first, but then clear up into the original (higher) resolution.
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Gotcha, you definitely have to wait a few seconds or all the images look awful.......
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I took some pictures today in my home office (have a floor lamp...decent lighting but not super bright) with both the GS3 and the Fascinate (GS1). The GS1 pictures are better. This is VERY disappointing
Taehee. said:
So let me get this straight:
While you're in camera mode, about to take a picture, and you pinch to zoom-in, the photo gets blurry?
Or are you talking about in the gallery when you pinch-to-zoom on a picture you've already taken?
If it's the former, I believe it's one of two things: 1) firmware issue, or 2) hardware issue. If it is indeed a hardware issue, you can probably get a replacement free of charge from Verizon.
If it's the latter, I think you just have to wait a few seconds for the phone to show you the high-res version instead of the low-quality blurry snapshot.
My sister has the same issue on her Galaxy Nexus. But I'm assuming that's not the case, since the blurriness usually goes away in a matter of seconds?
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It is the former. I tried camera 360 today and photos seemed ok. That app only alows 2x zoom. I was outdoors photographing dinosaurs in full sun. Perhaps i try another photo app, camera fx or something like that and see how it goes. Thank you for the reply. As I see I'm not the only one with this issue, I'm glad that we can discuss it and see what helps for us.
Camera Zoom FX as mentioned is a good alternative, for me I think the instant shutter makes it more blurry because you don't have any time to steady the camera after pressing the button. Camera Zoom has a slight lag. I would also try ProCapture, which I think does a better job than Camera Zoom but YMMV.
Camera sucks.. Period.. Pictures are horrible for an 8mp camera..
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Best camera settings

I've seen camera examples from the n5 which look great but mine look grainy..any ideas what settings do people use
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Try compare the exif info.
P.s. it is not a problem of setting, it just if you know some basic photography techniques.
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sorry, i got to laugh first.. lmao!
settings could be different for every single photo.
and @DummyPLUG said it right, its about learning some basic photography skills, and knowing some basic physics about light helps. one thing is for sure though, dont just press the button. touch the screen first, where you want it focused. point and click, youll get better looking photos as well.
Enable HDR.
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Enable HDR.
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why? i refuse to use it. photos that come out of hdr do look nice, but also lose out on a lot of detail, as tbe image size is also reduced.
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it is not a problem of setting, it just if you know some basic photography techniques.
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settings could be different for every single photo.
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MrObvious said:
Enable HDR.
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and this, where ever possible.
see, i dont agree to enable hdr whenever possible. sure, overall images seem to look better. but you lose so much detail by using it. if detail is important to you, like the detail in my photos to me, than its the worst thing to do. as i can get a better looking "hdr" images by editing the photo after, than the hdr camera can capture.
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why? i refuse to use it. photos that come out of hdr do look nice, but also lose out on a lot of detail, as tbe image size is also reduced.
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To me, HDR + gives a truer account of the actual light conditions in front of the lens and also better pictures in lower light.
My HDR pictures are bigger. Just done a low light test. 800KB vs 1.2MB
Edit, oh maybe you mean resolution?
5992704 vs 583680 in my tests. 6mpx vs 5.8 - not a lot of detail really.
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To me, HDR + gives a truer account of the actual light conditions in front of the lens and also better pictures in lower light.
My HDR pictures are bigger. Just done a low light test. 800KB vs 1.2MB
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that's a 33.33% reduction in size. not counting the hdr effect which ruins the actual detail(zoom all the way in to look).
instead, id say use touch to focus whenever possible. as just pressing the button will give you an average focus over the whole image. but touch to focus will give you detail where you need it.
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that's a 30% reduction in size.
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Sorry, i though you were saying a smaller file size is a BAD thing. Im confused, are you now saying its BETTER?
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Sorry, i though you were saying a smaller file size is a BAD thing. Im confused, are you now saying its BETTER?
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wait, your saying the hdr photo is larger or smaller. to me it sounded like you said smaller.
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wait, your saying the hdr photo is larger or smaller. to me it sounded like you said smaller.
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Even though I used the word bigger?
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Even though I used the word bigger?
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the way you wrote the photo size.. but i just checked as well, pixel size is smaller in an hdr photo, not mb in the file size.
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the way you wrote the photo size.. but i just checked as well, pixel size is smaller in an hdr photo, not mb in the file size.
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To me, HDR+ looks sharper too.
I'd upload a couple of examples, but they get compressed on TT or Photobucket. Maybe G+ doesn't compress? That said, I don't like using my real name in forums so... hahah
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To me, HDR+ looks sharper too.
I'd upload a couple of examples, but they get compressed on TT or Photobucket. Maybe G+ doesn't compress? That said, I don't like using my real name in forums so... hahah
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na, g+ does as well.
i guess if you dont have much photography knowledge, then hdr+ might be good to use Lp
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na, g+ does as well.
i guess if you dont have much photography knowledge, then hdr+ might be good to use Lp
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Well HDR+ is designed to give more detail where a normal camera would lose in dark and light areas. To me the results are better on a phone where you cannot adjust the shutter speed, iso or aperture.
I think its very unfair to link the use of HDR+ to photography knowledge. Its about the result. I myself am a keen amateur photographer and understand photography principles well, but it doesn't change the fact that HDR+ gets more information on a point and shoot than without.
I guess its slightly subjective as to whether you like your photos accurate or not. But technically, HDR + is better
Edit.. For those who don't know what we're debating, here's a link
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-dynamic-range_imaging
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Well HDR+ is designed to give more detail where a normal camera would lose in dark and light areas. To me the results are better on a phone where you cannot adjust the shutter speed, iso or aperture.
I think its very unfair to link the use of HDR+ to photography knowledge. Its about the result. I myself am a keen amateur photographer and understand photography principles well, but it doesn't change the fact that HDR+ gets more information on a point and shoot than without.
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well.. detail. hdr does make darker areas lighter, as thats why i do make many images hdr like, or faux hdr. from that point of view, sure, details get somewhat better. well, not better but you can see the details better. but on another hand, when you look at the details when you zoom in, the tiny details, they are worse. but thats just because of the nature of hdr on mobile, on taking several images and meshing them together. in my photography, those tiny details are very important, since many of my photos are macro-like, and focus on a specific point while everything else blurs. using hdr+, it tends to not catch the fine details.
simms22 said:
well.. detail. hdr does make darker areas lighter, as thats why i do make many images hdr like, or faux hdr. from that point of view, sure, details get somewhat better. well, not better but you can see the details better. but on another hand, when you look at the details when you zoom in, the tiny details, they are worse. but thats just because of the nature of hdr on mobile, on taking several images and meshing them together. in my photography, those tiny details are very important, since many of my photos are macro-like, and focus on a specific point while everything else blurs. using hdr+, it tends to not catch the fine details.
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Well macro is a different kettle of fish. I use a completely different set up for macro, ie not a phone
To me a phone is for snaps. I find HDR+ gives a better snap
Anyways, whatever. Use it, don't. The op has enough info to decide now
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Well macro is a different kettle of fish. I use a completely different set up for macro, ie not a phone
To me a phone is for snaps. I find HDR+ gives a better snap
Anyways, whatever. Use it, don't. The op has enough info to decide now
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or use it in certain types of shots. anyways, its a personal preference. and absolutely!
@rootSU @simms22 people never understand this.
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HDR = High Dynamic Range, multiple (doesn't matter how many) pictures taken at different exposures and put together so you get everything exposed and nothing over/under-exposed.
HDR+ = Google's random magic algorithm for scene recognition, saturation fixing and contrast fixing, done with multiple (I think 2) images. Quoting Google; “With HDR+, create vivid photos by day and sharper photos by night.”
What Google calls "HDR+" only exists on the Nexus 5.
See this image: http://images.fonearena.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/htc-one-hdr-vs-nexus-5-hdr-plus.jpg
As you can see, the HDR image doesn't have anything over/under-exposed whereas the HDR+ image has it's subject underexposed.
HDR is NOT the same as HDR+.
Edit: also have to add that "HDR+" is limited to the Google Camera. If you download a 3rd party camera app to use on the Nexus 5 and it has a "HDR mode", it'll be actual HDR, rather than what Google calls "HDR+".
I'm pretty sure the algorithm for "HDR+" is closed source but its definitely not real High Dynamic Range.
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Mi4c Camera issues (blurry in low/fluorescent light)

After purchasing the Mi4c and waiting for it for three weeks, I keenly unboxed it and started tweaking the living hell out of it. Among others I installed several Google apps, the google account manager (switch off sync in China as it will draaaain your battery), and MIUI 5.10.16 dev. So far so good.
However, when I tried the camera, the online shots of which were very promising, I was so disappointed I ordered the Nexus 5X straight away. In any circumstance that isn't sunny, the rear-facing camera will perform horribly. What I mean is that, unless you stabilize the phone securely with two hands, any shot in a fluorescent light or otherwise slightly dim environment will result in heavy blur. As if you were shaking the phone while you took the shot. Comparing with the Nexus 5 (2013), where you could take a shot from your wrist while riding a bicycle and still have an acceptable result.
Can anyone else confirm? Do I have the worse of two sensors, is it just the tiny objective, or is it software-related? Or is it just what I should learn to accept from a 1500 RMB phone?
Hello mate,
this is what you should learn from a 1500 RMB phone, camera sux as soon as conditions are not optimum. Tried a lot of apps, but the results is still the same. Some apps will focus better though (lenovo super camera v5 for instance).
Nevertheless, a part from the camera, the phone is way better with CM12.1 than the nexus 5X which handle apps horribly again... Very slow to open and reload apps. Which is kind of a big deal.
upload some pics if possible..
let's see it...
Maybe the camera app just sucks hard? You should try others to compare...
These are all shot from the wrist with minimal effort at stabilizing, the way I used to snap pictures with my Nexus 5
Try to take a few indoor shots with a steady hand. It could be that the software uses a quite long shutter time, which results in a blurry shot if the hand isn't steady.
The second step would be: manually set the shutter time according to your preference.
Sure, steadying the phone entirely will work. But that's not really a solution, as you often take a quick snap, the device is light and therefore in almost all situations your hand will be unsteady. It felt like the nexus5 was able to use shorter shutter times in low-light conditions and took steady pictures almost all of the time.
potentially a software problem; after flashing CM Rom the camera improved significantly (also switched from N5 to 4C)
agreed, it got significantly better with the CM rom. Still fairly noisy and a little blurry though. Looks like the camera app (I use Google Camera 4.0) actually takes its time to focus rather than attempting to deliver the quickest shot possible.
bluppfisk said:
agreed, it got significantly better with the CM rom. Still fairly noisy and a little blurry though. Looks like the camera app (I use Google Camera 4.0) actually takes its time to focus rather than attempting to deliver the quickest shot possible.
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Can you check which sensor you have please
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-4c/general/camera-sensor-sony-samsung-t3213510/page4
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Can you check which sensor you have please
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-4c/general/camera-sensor-sony-samsung-t3213510/page4
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He already has, yesterday
Maybe we can have some more samples from another camera app ? We know you have the Sony sensor now, it could be interesting to see if someone has a Samsung one and how is it different in picture quality.
Here are some, as your see low light ones aren't very good and blurred. But even the sunlight ones are a little grainy and not perfectly crisp. Sony sensor.
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Here are some, as your see low light ones aren't very good and blurred. But even the sunlight ones are a little grainy and not perfectly crisp. Sony sensor.
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Ok thanks ! And this is with the MIUI app ?
No the last batch was with CM
I created a post on official eu.xiaomi.com about this bug, if you can, please, confim in "bug" section of xiaomi mi4c
link?
http://en.miui.com/thread-180040-1-1.html
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So, i'm really very confused now... someone says it is very great (e.g. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63730763&postcount=44) and you say it is bad and open a bug!
I would prefer great camera and battery over LTE band 20, but here i don't understand yet if mi4c have or not great camera... Can you please help me understand? Thanks
Well... Depends by user.. 50% say camera is awesome 50% not - You can see something like this on many phones

Can someone please explain the reason for the photo quality difference on the OP7P?

Hey, All...
I'm on the newest 9.5.7 on my 12/256 OP7P that I ordered direct from OP.
Although the updates are making the camera better, I still can't wrap my mind around how there can be such a detail and focus issue between photos and apps on the SAME device. To me, that means that it's software that is the issue, and not actually hardware quality...
Here's a comparison of two photos I took with the same conditions in the same distance in the same lighting. One is from the G cam app on my OnePlus 7 Pro and the other is from the stock camera on my OnePlus 7 Pro How can there be such a difference?
Needless to say, the photo that looks better and has much more detail is from the G cam app
To be totally transparent, I also have a Pixel 3XL that I use
Thanks for helping me understand!
Yay for black cats! I have one, too.
Anyhoo, if you're trying to understand the difference in quality between Google's software and OP's, I don't think it's fair. Google's software for their camera is the best on the market. Even the likes of Samsung haven't beaten them yet (for still images and night shots). Personally, I'm happy with the stock camera performance on this 7 Pro because I don't really demand the bleeding edge camera performance on a phone. Not to suggest that you require that, most of us just want usable pics to share online with each other.
Pixel 3a is $400 and has the second best camera (behind the regular Pixel 3) on the market. For some folks, the camera is the number one reason for choosing their phone. For me, it's like number 4 on my list. I didn't like the 6T performance because even for regular shots that I shared online, it was hot garbage. But they've made enough improvement to it on this 7 Pro to make day to day living and photo shooting fair enough. When I need just that much more quality (especially at low light), I just use the Gcam.
There is a lot of software voodoo going on to improve pictures. It isn't just capture the image, and there it is. Lots of processing goes on to take the raw data and convert it into an image.
Google has some smart people working there to have their code to some real good work.
stuff said:
There is a lot of software voodoo going on to improve pictures. It isn't just capture the image, and there it is. Lots of processing goes on to take the raw data and convert it into an image.
Google has some smart people working there to have their code to some real good work.
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I wonder how good the actual hardware is on the pixel 3xl camera compared to the OP7P then, lol.
KillerQ said:
I wonder how good the actual hardware is on the pixel 3xl camera compared to the OP7P then, lol.
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In my opinion, I don't think it's any better or worse tbh. The capability of the camera application is crucial.
Google put all their effort into taking the best "auto" photos it can conjure up. That's why there doesn't exist the ability to manually change it.
But that camera app is also designed specifically for that HW camera (whichever hw model Pixel it is).
Google just knows what they are doing in that dept.
stuff said:
There is a lot of software voodoo going on to improve pictures. It isn't just capture the image, and there it is. Lots of processing goes on to take the raw data and convert it into an image.
Google has some smart people working there to have their code to some real good work.
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stuff said:
In my opinion, I don't think it's any better or worse tbh. The capability of the camera application is crucial.
Google put all their effort into taking the best "auto" photos it can conjure up. That's why there doesn't exist the ability to manually change it.
But that camera app is also designed specifically for that HW camera (whichever hw model Pixel it is).
Google just knows what they are doing in that dept.
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So, this means, as soon as someone comes up with an amazing G cam port for our phone, we'll be sitting pretty just like everyone else.
KillerQ said:
So, this means, as soon as someone comes up with an amazing G cam port for our phone, we'll be sitting pretty just like everyone else.
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Don't take my word 100% on it, but I believe that is the case.

Question Over Sharpen photos

I think my pixel 7 pro is taking photos which are unnecessarily over sharpened and full of digital noise specially in ultrawide is it just me ?? I just got the phone today and and I am now confused if only I am facing this problem or its wide spread,,
Strange, at least in three of four of your photos. This might be the only sample cloud photo I've taken recently. I've cropped this to cut out distracting elements. I don't see anything similar, although in my case there's no blue sky at all, so there could be better examples. Try rebooting?
roirraW edor ehT said:
Strange, at least in three of four of your photos. This might be the only sample cloud photo I've taken recently. I've cropped this to cut out distracting elements. I don't see anything similar, although in my case there's no blue sky at all, so there could be better examples. Try rebooting?
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Yeap i rebooted the phone ,as it's evening now I can't take the same sky photos,but I will report back tomorrow, can it be a problem only with my device?? Should I return it ??
It is known, that Pixel 6 and 7 phones oversharpen in certain situations. It is quite prominent in 2x portrait mode.
Trouble is not in the fact itself, but in impossibility to configure the intensity of post-processing.
I'm not getting what you're getting in the clouds in the first 3 pictures of yours. Mine aren't taken in ultrawide though. What do your cloud pictures look like without ultrawide?
Salilsarkar said:
Yeap i rebooted the phone ,as it's evening now I can't take the same sky photos,but I will report back tomorrow, can it be a problem only with my device?? Should I return it ??
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As to whether you should return it before confirming that it's always a problem depends on when you're initial (15?) day grace period is up. If it's up very soon, then I would consider returning it and ordering another separately - that way you're guaranteed a brand-new, not refurbished phone. I assume by now that there are at least some refurbished ones available.
Otherwise, you could contact Google and see if they'll guarantee you a new replacement, which would avoid the hassle of return/refund/re-order.
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Personally, I doubt if there is anything wrong with your hardware. On the Pixel 6 Pro, I remember light flares being a huge problem, especially in night photos just after I got mine, and I remember noticing at some later date that I no longer noticed the issue, so they likely adjusted the camera software or Android firmware in some way to compensate for this.
Salilsarkar said:
I think my pixel 7 pro is taking photos which are unnecessarily over sharpened and full of digital noise specially in ultrawide is it just me ?? I just got the phone today and and I am now confused if only I am facing this problem or its wide spread,,
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Alternatively, you could use GCAM and adjust the post-processing according to your needs.
Gcam is FULLY working on Pixel devices, it just needs a few configuration steps and viola, "better" than stock camera since it gives you almost "full" manual control over post-processing.
ekin_strops said:
Alternatively, you could use GCAM and adjust the post-processing according to your needs.
Gcam is FULLY working on Pixel devices, it just needs a few configuration steps and viola, "better" than stock camera since it gives you almost "full" manual control over post-processing.
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This is my next step. I loved GCAM on my S21 Ultra and am missing the level of customization with the stock camera app on my Pixel. Is there a particular mod/build you'd recommend?
grangermoch said:
This is my next step. I loved GCAM on my S21 Ultra and am missing the level of customization with the stock camera app on my Pixel. Is there a particular mod/build you'd recommend?
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BSG latest works with Pixel 7 Pro perfectly. You just need to set the interface to Pixel 6 Pro. Also, it would need some fine tuning in the settings, since lenses are detected, but wrongly "named", and the 5X is not there, I mean the button is 4x, but it's the digital zoom, and if you expand to 5x manually with fingers it goes to the 5x lens automatically. That needs to be adjusted.
Otherwise, it works great without any configuration on the sensors, photos are stock like (can be adjusted of course to "better") and video fully works like on stock, including OIS, slow motion too and timelapse.
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BSG latest works with Pixel 7 Pro perfectly. You just need to set the interface to Pixel 6 Pro. Also, it would need some fine tuning in the settings, since lenses are detected, but wrongly "named", and the 5X is not there, I mean the button is 4x, but it's the digital zoom, and if you expand to 5x manually with fingers it goes to the 5x lens automatically. That needs to be adjusted.
Otherwise, it works great without any configuration on the sensors, photos are stock like (can be adjusted of course to "better") and video fully works like on stock, including OIS, slow motion too and timelapse.
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For me, on latest BSG 8.6 (v9) the tele button does work correctly. It says 5 and it will switch to the tele. Could be because I am using a config from telegram.
jericho246 said:
For me, on latest BSG 8.6 (v9) the tele button does work correctly. It says 5 and it will switch to the tele. Could be because I am using a config from telegram.
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The latest BSG with interface set too Pixel 6 Pro, it shows a 4x, but if you start zooming in manually by sliding 2 fingers, after it gets 5x digital, it switches to the physical zoom lens. It works perfectly fine on P7P.
ekin_strops said:
The latest BSG with interface set too Pixel 6 Pro, it shows a 4x, but if you start zooming in manually by sliding 2 fingers, after it gets 5x digital, it switches to the physical zoom lens. It works perfectly fine on P7P.
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Shows 5x for me. No need to zoom manually.
And yeah I just tried something, I cleared app data and set the interface to Pixel 6 Pro. Now it says 4x.
Try the attached config, if you wish (credit goes to SkyKing007), it should "fix" the tele button.
Alternatively you can search for "tele" in the developer settings and set the "camera.ultra_tele_zoom_ratio_facing_back" to 5.0.
I know that it over sharpenes the 2x potrait but it's pretty weird to me that it's doing the same in main or ultra wide camera even my previous OnePlus 9 pro haven't done this ..
Biges said:
It is known, that Pixel 6 and 7 phones oversharpen in certain situations. It is quite prominent in 2x portrait mode.
Trouble is not in the fact itself, but in impossibility to configure the intensity of post-processing.
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Lughnasadh said:
I'm not getting what you're getting in the clouds in the first 3 pictures of yours. Mine aren't taken in ultrawide though. What do your cloud pictures look like without ultrawide?
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It's more or less the same the 1st photo is taken on the standard main camera.
roirraW edor ehT said:
As to whether you should return it before confirming that it's always a problem depends on when you're initial (15?) day grace period is up. If it's up very soon, then I would consider returning it and ordering another separately - that way you're guaranteed a brand-new, not refurbished phone. I assume by now that there are at least some refurbished ones available.
Otherwise, you could contact Google and see if they'll guarantee you a new replacement, which would avoid the hassle of return/refund/re-order.
That all said...
Personally, I doubt if there is anything wrong with your hardware. On the Pixel 6 Pro, I remember light flares being a huge problem, especially in night photos just after I got mine, and I remember noticing at some later date that I no longer noticed the issue, so they likely adjusted the camera software or Android firmware in some way to compensate for this.
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Thak you for the suggestions,I just got the phone tomorrow I would continue to check if its a consistent problem or not ,as much as I know pixels get update with in the 1st week of every month so I will wait to see if the November update improves something..
@jericho246 thanks for the config! which version should i use? ...ENG.apk or ...MGC.apk?
Salilsarkar said:
Thak you for the suggestions,I just got the phone tomorrow I would continue to check if its a consistent problem or not ,as much as I know pixels get update with in the 1st week of every month so I will wait to see if the November update improves something..
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Improve what? This is how pixels take photos. No joking here, maybe just go back to what you had? Or your phone is defective. Try a new one first.
jericho246 said:
Shows 5x for me. No need to zoom manually.
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And yeah I just tried something, I cleared app data and set the interface to Pixel 6 Pro. Now it says 4x.
Try the attached config, if you wish (credit goes to SkyKing007), it should "fix" the tele button.
Alternatively you can search for "tele" in the developer settings and set the "camera.ultra_tele_zoom_ratio_facing_back" to 5.0.
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Hmm interesting, I made quick comparision in all modes and stock gcam making better photos, more details in most of situations, but differences are small. Actualy this is first situation I ever noticed where stock app is better than any modded gcam, well stock is gcam
paratox said:
@jericho246 thanks for the config! which version should i use? ...ENG.apk or ...MGC.apk?
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For Pixel phones it doesn't matter which one you use. I use the MGC one.
I'm seriously confused about people using gcam, on well, a pixel. The pixel has gcam!

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