I think my pixel 7 pro is taking photos which are unnecessarily over sharpened and full of digital noise specially in ultrawide is it just me ?? I just got the phone today and and I am now confused if only I am facing this problem or its wide spread,,
Strange, at least in three of four of your photos. This might be the only sample cloud photo I've taken recently. I've cropped this to cut out distracting elements. I don't see anything similar, although in my case there's no blue sky at all, so there could be better examples. Try rebooting?
roirraW edor ehT said:
Strange, at least in three of four of your photos. This might be the only sample cloud photo I've taken recently. I've cropped this to cut out distracting elements. I don't see anything similar, although in my case there's no blue sky at all, so there could be better examples. Try rebooting?
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Yeap i rebooted the phone ,as it's evening now I can't take the same sky photos,but I will report back tomorrow, can it be a problem only with my device?? Should I return it ??
It is known, that Pixel 6 and 7 phones oversharpen in certain situations. It is quite prominent in 2x portrait mode.
Trouble is not in the fact itself, but in impossibility to configure the intensity of post-processing.
I'm not getting what you're getting in the clouds in the first 3 pictures of yours. Mine aren't taken in ultrawide though. What do your cloud pictures look like without ultrawide?
Salilsarkar said:
Yeap i rebooted the phone ,as it's evening now I can't take the same sky photos,but I will report back tomorrow, can it be a problem only with my device?? Should I return it ??
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As to whether you should return it before confirming that it's always a problem depends on when you're initial (15?) day grace period is up. If it's up very soon, then I would consider returning it and ordering another separately - that way you're guaranteed a brand-new, not refurbished phone. I assume by now that there are at least some refurbished ones available.
Otherwise, you could contact Google and see if they'll guarantee you a new replacement, which would avoid the hassle of return/refund/re-order.
That all said...
Personally, I doubt if there is anything wrong with your hardware. On the Pixel 6 Pro, I remember light flares being a huge problem, especially in night photos just after I got mine, and I remember noticing at some later date that I no longer noticed the issue, so they likely adjusted the camera software or Android firmware in some way to compensate for this.
Salilsarkar said:
I think my pixel 7 pro is taking photos which are unnecessarily over sharpened and full of digital noise specially in ultrawide is it just me ?? I just got the phone today and and I am now confused if only I am facing this problem or its wide spread,,
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Alternatively, you could use GCAM and adjust the post-processing according to your needs.
Gcam is FULLY working on Pixel devices, it just needs a few configuration steps and viola, "better" than stock camera since it gives you almost "full" manual control over post-processing.
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Alternatively, you could use GCAM and adjust the post-processing according to your needs.
Gcam is FULLY working on Pixel devices, it just needs a few configuration steps and viola, "better" than stock camera since it gives you almost "full" manual control over post-processing.
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This is my next step. I loved GCAM on my S21 Ultra and am missing the level of customization with the stock camera app on my Pixel. Is there a particular mod/build you'd recommend?
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This is my next step. I loved GCAM on my S21 Ultra and am missing the level of customization with the stock camera app on my Pixel. Is there a particular mod/build you'd recommend?
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BSG latest works with Pixel 7 Pro perfectly. You just need to set the interface to Pixel 6 Pro. Also, it would need some fine tuning in the settings, since lenses are detected, but wrongly "named", and the 5X is not there, I mean the button is 4x, but it's the digital zoom, and if you expand to 5x manually with fingers it goes to the 5x lens automatically. That needs to be adjusted.
Otherwise, it works great without any configuration on the sensors, photos are stock like (can be adjusted of course to "better") and video fully works like on stock, including OIS, slow motion too and timelapse.
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BSG latest works with Pixel 7 Pro perfectly. You just need to set the interface to Pixel 6 Pro. Also, it would need some fine tuning in the settings, since lenses are detected, but wrongly "named", and the 5X is not there, I mean the button is 4x, but it's the digital zoom, and if you expand to 5x manually with fingers it goes to the 5x lens automatically. That needs to be adjusted.
Otherwise, it works great without any configuration on the sensors, photos are stock like (can be adjusted of course to "better") and video fully works like on stock, including OIS, slow motion too and timelapse.
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For me, on latest BSG 8.6 (v9) the tele button does work correctly. It says 5 and it will switch to the tele. Could be because I am using a config from telegram.
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For me, on latest BSG 8.6 (v9) the tele button does work correctly. It says 5 and it will switch to the tele. Could be because I am using a config from telegram.
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The latest BSG with interface set too Pixel 6 Pro, it shows a 4x, but if you start zooming in manually by sliding 2 fingers, after it gets 5x digital, it switches to the physical zoom lens. It works perfectly fine on P7P.
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The latest BSG with interface set too Pixel 6 Pro, it shows a 4x, but if you start zooming in manually by sliding 2 fingers, after it gets 5x digital, it switches to the physical zoom lens. It works perfectly fine on P7P.
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Shows 5x for me. No need to zoom manually.
And yeah I just tried something, I cleared app data and set the interface to Pixel 6 Pro. Now it says 4x.
Try the attached config, if you wish (credit goes to SkyKing007), it should "fix" the tele button.
Alternatively you can search for "tele" in the developer settings and set the "camera.ultra_tele_zoom_ratio_facing_back" to 5.0.
I know that it over sharpenes the 2x potrait but it's pretty weird to me that it's doing the same in main or ultra wide camera even my previous OnePlus 9 pro haven't done this ..
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It is known, that Pixel 6 and 7 phones oversharpen in certain situations. It is quite prominent in 2x portrait mode.
Trouble is not in the fact itself, but in impossibility to configure the intensity of post-processing.
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I'm not getting what you're getting in the clouds in the first 3 pictures of yours. Mine aren't taken in ultrawide though. What do your cloud pictures look like without ultrawide?
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It's more or less the same the 1st photo is taken on the standard main camera.
roirraW edor ehT said:
As to whether you should return it before confirming that it's always a problem depends on when you're initial (15?) day grace period is up. If it's up very soon, then I would consider returning it and ordering another separately - that way you're guaranteed a brand-new, not refurbished phone. I assume by now that there are at least some refurbished ones available.
Otherwise, you could contact Google and see if they'll guarantee you a new replacement, which would avoid the hassle of return/refund/re-order.
That all said...
Personally, I doubt if there is anything wrong with your hardware. On the Pixel 6 Pro, I remember light flares being a huge problem, especially in night photos just after I got mine, and I remember noticing at some later date that I no longer noticed the issue, so they likely adjusted the camera software or Android firmware in some way to compensate for this.
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Thak you for the suggestions,I just got the phone tomorrow I would continue to check if its a consistent problem or not ,as much as I know pixels get update with in the 1st week of every month so I will wait to see if the November update improves something..
@jericho246 thanks for the config! which version should i use? ...ENG.apk or ...MGC.apk?
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Thak you for the suggestions,I just got the phone tomorrow I would continue to check if its a consistent problem or not ,as much as I know pixels get update with in the 1st week of every month so I will wait to see if the November update improves something..
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Improve what? This is how pixels take photos. No joking here, maybe just go back to what you had? Or your phone is defective. Try a new one first.
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Shows 5x for me. No need to zoom manually.
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And yeah I just tried something, I cleared app data and set the interface to Pixel 6 Pro. Now it says 4x.
Try the attached config, if you wish (credit goes to SkyKing007), it should "fix" the tele button.
Alternatively you can search for "tele" in the developer settings and set the "camera.ultra_tele_zoom_ratio_facing_back" to 5.0.
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Hmm interesting, I made quick comparision in all modes and stock gcam making better photos, more details in most of situations, but differences are small. Actualy this is first situation I ever noticed where stock app is better than any modded gcam, well stock is gcam
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@jericho246 thanks for the config! which version should i use? ...ENG.apk or ...MGC.apk?
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For Pixel phones it doesn't matter which one you use. I use the MGC one.
I'm seriously confused about people using gcam, on well, a pixel. The pixel has gcam!
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Quite disappointed. Tried two roms, CM and xnph300 camera. With/without "Clear image". Photos are washed out compared to Nexus 5.
Attached are two photos of a mousepad with a woman's picture on it. One is "Clear image", opo. One is Nexus 5.
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Here is a series of three landscapes. LTR: iPhone 5, Nexus 5, OPO (Clear Image)
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From p. 4 of this thread
There's a thread on IUNI rom over in the Android Dev thread. Short takes
- Everyone loves the UI and camera
- Got to flash a CM recovery to get it to load
- Got to use ColorOS gapps - especially to get english to work. (link in thread, not on OP)
- Got to get the latest beta (link in the thread, not on OP) to get play store to work
- Battery usage poor - although, as usual one or two say not so.
Guess I'll hold off for a while - don't have time to flail around with it rt. now.
It's not washed out. It's white balance problem in my opinion.
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Yep. Still...
I agree... The camera is extremely mediocre. I have tried different apps and settings and the pictures come out dull and kinda grainy.
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This photo came straight from the camera, just minor cropping to the background. Exif data shows it came from
the OnePlus. This was taken with the program Camera FV-5, in macro mode.
I disagree completely. The camera is just fine if you know how to use it.
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I disagree completely. The camera is just fine if you know how to use it.
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It may be "fine", but it sux.
Oh, "how to use it". Hmm. Leme think. Point at subject. Hit the button.
That what you mean? That's what I did with the samples I posted. You'll note that the OPO sux.
If what you mean by "how to use it" is, ah, flail around, set "smart screen" with Focus mode = "macro" - or similar, I'll go with "Sux".
Sheesh.
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I could be wrong. Never happened before, but always a first time. Perhaps you'd deign to share your considerable expertise with Android cameras in the form of just one or two pointers for us hoi-polloi
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This photo came straight from the camera, just minor cropping to the background. Exif data shows it came from
the OnePlus. This was taken with the program Camera FV-5, in macro mode.
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Seems you are confused. "Straight from the camera" it did not come - as you say in the third sentence. Yes, keeping things straight for three sentences is a pain...
For the record, and to explicitly say what's implicit in my original post, iPhone and Nexus 5 don't require "pro" cameras or special settings to take decent pics.
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It may be "fine", but it sux.
Oh, "how to use it". Hmm. Leme think. Point at subject. Hit the button.
That what you mean? That's what I did with the samples I posted. You'll note that the OPO sux.
If what you mean by "how to use it" is, ah, flail around, set "smart screen" with Focus mode = "macro" - or similar, I'll go with "Sux".
Sheesh.
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You just made my point for me.
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The camera does not "sux". It's in fact a very capable camera. It's no Galaxy S5, but it does the job, and then some. I take 98% of my pictures in HDR so maybe that has something to do with it. But I'm pretty content with it regardless; it could be much, much worse.
Can you try ColorOS? I also had a Nexus 5 and found the camera on the Opo a bit grainy, over-exposed etc using CM11s
I can assure you that I enjoy the camera a lot more now.
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Can you try ColorOS? I also had a Nexus 5 and found the camera on the Opo a bit grainy, over-exposed etc using CM11s
I can assure you that I enjoy the camera a lot more now.
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I want to run "standard" roms such as Mahdi, etc. I'll try to get the APK and maybe break down and try the rom itself. Thanks for the suggestion. Don't want the perfect camera, just one that is not so dramatically mediocre.
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Looks like getting the APK is hard. Sigh.
Use HDR
After much flailing, I see that using the HDR setting will get acceptable pics. Not great yet, but acceptable. To me.
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Seems you are confused. "Straight from the camera" it did not come - as you say in the third sentence. Yes, keeping things straight for three sentences is a pain...
For the record, and to explicitly say what's implicit in my original post, iPhone and Nexus 5 don't require "pro" cameras or special settings to take decent pics.
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Well, excuse me for not being 1000% truthful from your mind. I never use the default camera app, but, I have used the camera app that comes with the one, and it does quite well. Perhaps later, I will take one, using the default camera app to show you that it does a good job, and, as with most errors with phone cameras, it is the operator who does not know how to compose, focus and HOLD IT STILL.
Please forgive me for not being 1000% accurate in my statement. My point was this was from the camera, without any editing or photoshopping in any way. {sarcasm off}
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After much flailing, I see that using the HDR setting will get acceptable pics. Not great yet, but acceptable. To me.
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Wut... the HDR produces terrible colors and exaggerated HDR photos that belong in reddit.com/r/****tyhdr
Anyone know what toggling each profile with a filled white circle does (HDR, Clear Image, Night, Mono, Sepia and so on)? Is it using a combination of all enabled profiles?
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Wut... the HDR produces terrible colors and exaggerated HDR photos that belong in reddit.com/r/****tyhdr
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"for me"...
I reserve the right to change my mind.
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Anyone know what toggling each profile with a filled white circle does (HDR, Clear Image, Night, Mono, Sepia and so on)? Is it using a combination of all enabled profiles?
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It allows you to quickly access the toggled modes by sliding up or down on the screen.
I got both phones and OPO camera is way better than the Nexus 5
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"for me"...
I reserve the right to change my mind.
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it seems that ColorOS Camera seems to make a HUGE difference compared to CM in terms of quality. (it was reported and review this one on Find 7 witch has same optics, that w/ CM camera seems way worst than on ColorOS)
so my suggestion is to try the whole ColorOS ROM (stable or beta) or Iuni ROM (this one has Oppo's Camera app ) and then you'll see the full power of this hardware piece
Hi all,
I bought OP6 few months ago and went back to pixel 2xl. I was gonna go for pixel 3 but not gonna do it because of alot of issues with the device. Anyway im thinking of buying a OP6 (no 6T ) but the only thing hold me back is the camera. So my question is how's the current development with GCAM + OP6? Is is working like on OP3 + Gcam? HDR working + greenish photo issues have been fixed? Highly appreciated your input
Don't know how it worked back with the OP3 but I come from a Moto G4 Plus and GCam was miles better than stock on that phone although it was very slow to take shots.
My experience with Gcam on my OP6 has been really good. I didn't start using Gcam until a couple of weeks ago but I'd say it's pretty solid when it comes to regular photos. Video doesn't work but the stock op app works fine for that. When I compare pictures between stock and gcam the gcam can be a bit too aggressive when it comes to background blurring and zooming in on text on a whiteboard is better on stock though nightcamera is miles better on gcam.
My point being that gcam isn't superior in every single way compared to stock. Don't know if it might be gcam not working the same as on pixel 3 or the stock just being superior in some scenarios.
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Hi all,
I bought OP6 few months ago and went back to pixel 2xl. I was gonna go for pixel 3 but not gonna do it because of alot of issues with the device. Anyway im thinking of buying a OP6 (no 6T ) but the only thing hold me back is the camera. So my question is how's the current development with GCAM + OP6? Is is working like on OP3 + Gcam? HDR working + greenish photo issues have been fixed? Highly appreciated your input
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Let me get this straight.
You bought OP6, then went back to Pixel 2 XL (because the camera wasn't good? Or is it something else) Then you wanted Pixel 3, but it had issues.
So you want OP6 with the power of a Pixel camera by using the Gcam mod apps?
Ok, I think I can advise on this particular scenario, since I have been testing it extensively.
1) When in good lighting conditions, the stock camera of OP6 is almost as good as cameras of other flagship phones (iPhone XS, Galaxy Note 9, Huawei Mate 20 Pro etc.) I have seen multiple reviews of this camera, and during daylight, it's excellent. My own shots with this camera were very good as well.
2) When in dim lighting conditions, the stock camera of OP6 uses an oversharpening algorithm that makes images look grainy/noisy and also makes images lose a lot of fine detail. Gcam does superior noise reduction, and preserves a lot of detail, but the images come out softer than other flagship phones' . I would definitely use Gcam for low light shots.
3) However, a lowly GS9 cam (which I have access to) is still superior to this OP6 camera, in both daylight and low light scenes. There's not a large but definitely noticeable difference in detail and focus at night, and a slight difference during the day.
Conclusion: The Gcam app will not change your camera experience, unless you take a lot of shots of dimly lit scenes. Using the Gcam app will significantly help you bridge the difference between the OP6 camera and other flagship cameras.
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Don't know how it worked back with the OP3 but I come from a Moto G4 Plus and GCam was miles better than stock on that phone although it was very slow to take shots.
My experience with Gcam on my OP6 has been really good. I didn't start using Gcam until a couple of weeks ago but I'd say it's pretty solid when it comes to regular photos. Video doesn't work but the stock op app works fine for that. When I compare pictures between stock and gcam the gcam can be a bit too aggressive when it comes to background blurring and zooming in on text on a whiteboard is better on stock though nightcamera is miles better on gcam.
My point being that gcam isn't superior in every single way compared to stock. Don't know if it might be gcam not working the same as on pixel 3 or the stock just being superior in some scenarios.
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Thanks man appreciate your input.
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Let me get this straight.
You bought OP6, then went back to Pixel 2 XL (because the camera wasn't good? Or is it something else) Then you wanted Pixel 3, but it had issues.
So you want OP6 with the power of a Pixel camera by using the Gcam mod apps?
Ok, I think I can advise on this particular scenario, since I have been testing it extensively.
1) When in good lighting conditions, the stock camera of OP6 is almost as good as cameras of other flagship phones (iPhone XS, Galaxy Note 9, Huawei Mate 20 Pro etc.) I have seen multiple reviews of this camera, and during daylight, it's excellent. My own shots with this camera were very good as well.
2) When in dim lighting conditions, the stock camera of OP6 uses an oversharpening algorithm that makes images look grainy/noisy and also makes images lose a lot of fine detail. Gcam does superior noise reduction, and preserves a lot of detail, but the images come out softer than other flagship phones' . I would definitely use Gcam for low light shots.
3) However, a lowly GS9 cam (which I have access to) is still superior to this OP6 camera, in both daylight and low light scenes. There's not a large but definitely noticeable difference in detail and focus at night, and a slight difference during the day.
Conclusion: The Gcam app will not change your camera experience, unless you take a lot of shots of dimly lit scenes. Using the Gcam app will significantly help you bridge the difference between the OP6 camera and other flagship cameras.
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Lol. Yeah i went back because of the camera. Once you use a pixel it is hard to find a good camera phone. Yes. I dont wanna go for Pixel 3 due to remaining issues. Here is the thing, only thing i love about Pixel devices are Stock fluid system + superior camera. But i was a oneplus user few years back. Thanks for your long explaination. May i ask you how do i get GS9 cam apk? Only drawback of coming to OP was the camera. Im gonna give it a try
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Thanks man appreciate your input.
Lol. Yeah i went back because of the camera. Once you use a pixel it is hard to find a good camera phone. Yes. I dont wanna go for Pixel 3 due to remaining issues. Here is the thing, only thing i love about Pixel devices are Stock fluid system + superior camera. But i was a oneplus user few years back. Thanks for your long explaination. May i ask you how do i get GS9 cam apk? Only drawback of coming to OP was the camera. Im gonna give it a try
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Sorry, but GS9 camera comparisons are from an actual GS9 phone, which my friend owns.
If your sole issue is camera performance, then don't go back to OP6. It's just not as good as flagship cameras.
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Sorry, but GS9 camera comparisons are from an actual GS9 phone, which my friend owns.
If your sole issue is camera performance, then don't go back to OP6. It's just not as good as flagship cameras.
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totally agree. let's also say that other flagship could cost (in some cases) more than 2 OP6 put together.
comparisons are soooooooooo sweeeeeeet..
I spend most of my free time looking comparisons between phones but we gotta face the fact that there is a CONSISTENT price difference between a MATE 20 PRO or the lastest iPhone and an OP6 (or maybe two, lmao), and still I think that so much money won't giustify the quality difference.
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Sorry, but GS9 camera comparisons are from an actual GS9 phone, which my friend owns.
If your sole issue is camera performance, then don't go back to OP6. It's just not as good as flagship cameras.
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totally agree. let's also say that other flagship could cost (in some cases) more than 2 OP6 put together.
comparisons are soooooooooo sweeeeeeet..
I spend most of my free time looking comparisons between phones but we gotta face the fact that there is a CONSISTENT price difference between a MATE 20 PRO or the lastest iPhone and an OP6 (or maybe two, lmao), and still I think that so much money won't giustify the quality difference.
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Thank you both. The reason that pixel camera is great beacuse it is just point and shoot. 9 out of 10 it will produce blurr6 free perfect photo without any editing. Most of other cameras won't do that. To be honest im not a photographer or i dont take photos alot ( like used to be). So it is good that i can relay on a camera that will capture that moment without a fail. But if the GCAM port can catch up to that I'll ho back to Oneplus. I know that there is a huge price difference. Thanks though. Really appreciate your help
https://photos.app.goo.gl/qkLhkyYA5WBW65UY9'
20:9 with stock
16:9 with Gcam
I couldn´t believe my eyes when I got indoors and was about to make a little youtube video for night shot comparison. I couldn´t make the video as some of the nightscape pictures looked awful, grainy and not at all like the preview.
Since I can´t choose 16:9 with stock cam I had to go with 4:3 or fullscreen ... and I never take 4:3 shots. Maybe some settings within the camera options?
The problem is OnePlus doesn't have the resources to develop good image processing.
This camera is very lovable until switch to nightscape. Hopefully you didn't take picture to someone or would've seen a cartoon of that person. Skip nightscape setting until Oneplus hire a decent camera developer. Meanwhile attach to the regular photo mode that takes great pictures.
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The problem is OnePlus doesn't have the resources to develop good image processing.
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Hardware wise I do not believe there is a better device.
I am going to try more tests with mine.
Comparing GCam and Stock camera
If GCam works better it is not an issue just use GCam
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Hardware wise I do not believe there is a better device.
I am going to try more tests with mine.
Comparing GCam and Stock camera
If GCam works better it is not an issue just use GCam
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Yeah the camera hardware is the, the software not so much
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Hardware wise I do not believe there is a better device.
I am going to try more tests with mine.
Comparing GCam and Stock camera
If GCam works better it is not an issue just use GCam
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Pictures at night if there is a little artificial light actually work out better for me with just the normal camera, no nightscape. Gcam does do a better job though since it actually reduces glare on stuff like street lamps, the stock cam on normal doesn´t do that.
They should just work on an entirely new software approach, what they have just isn´t working and I don´t think updates are going to do much. It´s just more or less of the same.
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Spot on.
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I read a thread on the OnePlus forums about Nightscape.
It seems that the timing of the capture complete message is off and the camera team is aware of it and making adjustments.
I tried it myself last night and on the first shot I stayed still for a little bit longer after the message came up. Second shot as soon as the message came up I moved the phone away like I was done taking the picture.
You can see the difference in quality between the two.
Hey, All...
I'm on the newest 9.5.7 on my 12/256 OP7P that I ordered direct from OP.
Although the updates are making the camera better, I still can't wrap my mind around how there can be such a detail and focus issue between photos and apps on the SAME device. To me, that means that it's software that is the issue, and not actually hardware quality...
Here's a comparison of two photos I took with the same conditions in the same distance in the same lighting. One is from the G cam app on my OnePlus 7 Pro and the other is from the stock camera on my OnePlus 7 Pro How can there be such a difference?
Needless to say, the photo that looks better and has much more detail is from the G cam app
To be totally transparent, I also have a Pixel 3XL that I use
Thanks for helping me understand!
Yay for black cats! I have one, too.
Anyhoo, if you're trying to understand the difference in quality between Google's software and OP's, I don't think it's fair. Google's software for their camera is the best on the market. Even the likes of Samsung haven't beaten them yet (for still images and night shots). Personally, I'm happy with the stock camera performance on this 7 Pro because I don't really demand the bleeding edge camera performance on a phone. Not to suggest that you require that, most of us just want usable pics to share online with each other.
Pixel 3a is $400 and has the second best camera (behind the regular Pixel 3) on the market. For some folks, the camera is the number one reason for choosing their phone. For me, it's like number 4 on my list. I didn't like the 6T performance because even for regular shots that I shared online, it was hot garbage. But they've made enough improvement to it on this 7 Pro to make day to day living and photo shooting fair enough. When I need just that much more quality (especially at low light), I just use the Gcam.
There is a lot of software voodoo going on to improve pictures. It isn't just capture the image, and there it is. Lots of processing goes on to take the raw data and convert it into an image.
Google has some smart people working there to have their code to some real good work.
stuff said:
There is a lot of software voodoo going on to improve pictures. It isn't just capture the image, and there it is. Lots of processing goes on to take the raw data and convert it into an image.
Google has some smart people working there to have their code to some real good work.
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I wonder how good the actual hardware is on the pixel 3xl camera compared to the OP7P then, lol.
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I wonder how good the actual hardware is on the pixel 3xl camera compared to the OP7P then, lol.
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In my opinion, I don't think it's any better or worse tbh. The capability of the camera application is crucial.
Google put all their effort into taking the best "auto" photos it can conjure up. That's why there doesn't exist the ability to manually change it.
But that camera app is also designed specifically for that HW camera (whichever hw model Pixel it is).
Google just knows what they are doing in that dept.
stuff said:
There is a lot of software voodoo going on to improve pictures. It isn't just capture the image, and there it is. Lots of processing goes on to take the raw data and convert it into an image.
Google has some smart people working there to have their code to some real good work.
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stuff said:
In my opinion, I don't think it's any better or worse tbh. The capability of the camera application is crucial.
Google put all their effort into taking the best "auto" photos it can conjure up. That's why there doesn't exist the ability to manually change it.
But that camera app is also designed specifically for that HW camera (whichever hw model Pixel it is).
Google just knows what they are doing in that dept.
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So, this means, as soon as someone comes up with an amazing G cam port for our phone, we'll be sitting pretty just like everyone else.
KillerQ said:
So, this means, as soon as someone comes up with an amazing G cam port for our phone, we'll be sitting pretty just like everyone else.
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Don't take my word 100% on it, but I believe that is the case.
Coming from pixel pro 6. Love the camera, hate the size of phone. Know I'm giving up some great features by going smaller but what are you early owners seeing with the camera? Anyone planning on finding a gcam ported to it? Heard someone ported google photos also so magic eraser would work.
Thoughts please why I impatiently wait on my phone to arrive.
Good enough. Definitely better than than my Flip 3
The 3 seemed to lack detail and colour for me.
I've been searching xda for the gphotos port with magic eraser, but nothing is coming up for non pixel devices... Let me know if you know where it is plz!
Samsung now has object eraser, works same, however you could try this: https://www.smartprix.com/bytes/how-to-get-pixel-magic-eraser-on-other-android-phones/
johnny8910 said:
Good enough. Definitely better than than my Flip 3
The 3 seemed to lack detail and colour for me.
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I took some Flip 4 pics today to see how it goes, the color rendering seems ok, decent photos in good light conditions. No overkill, just point & shoot camera - things we were expecting from this phone.
The camera on this phone is definitely no Pixel 6 or Pixel 6 Pro; however, I think that should be a given when upgrading. I installed The Greatest GCam port and was impressed. The issue with the ports that I have found is that they don't mimic the new camera software on the Pixels. The one that was closest did something weird with my camera lens and made everything spherical looking.
Been using pixel since pixel 1, the camera is not as good as pixel's, even compared to a pixel 3 (2018).
The picture took by Samsung is more colorful than pixel, more colorful than real.
And the picture took at night is worse than pixel. Pixel's algorithm (night sight) is absolutely needed.
Is there any working G Cam port? Thank you.
Haven't found a gcam port that doesn't crash yet, but Adobe is working on a camera app that is suppose to have similar AI to Pixel, along with some other great stuff. Don't know when it will be released though
The camera is certainly a step up from last year's device but not quite flagship grade.
It excels in well-lit areas absent of any fast moving objects.
A working GCAM port might convince to me to reconsider it as a daily driver (as I literally have no other qualms with the device).
mt2020 said:
Haven't found a gcam port that doesn't crash yet, but Adobe is working on a camera app that is suppose to have similar AI to Pixel, along with some other great stuff. Don't know when it will be released though
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The latest g cam from BSG doesn't crash.
Version 8.6.263_a11_v2
BSG: MGC_8.6.263_A11_V2
Download MGC_8.6.263_A11_V2 by BSG.
www.celsoazevedo.com
Thanks! I'll try it.
acytoo said:
The latest g cam from BSG doesn't crash.
Version 8.6.263_a11_v2
BSG: MGC_8.6.263_A11_V2
Download MGC_8.6.263_A11_V2 by BSG.
www.celsoazevedo.com
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To clarify: you're saying it also doesn't need a .xml config file?
Moaske said:
To clarify: you're saying it also doesn't need a .xml config file?
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No config file needed.
Gcam from bigkaka
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-BigKaka/
works, too. (Does not working with a config file)
Tried the BSG camera port. The good news is that everything seems to work. The bad news is that I took a number of test comparison shots with the Samsung camera (both lenses, night mode, portrait mode). The Samsung photos were clearly superior each time. If nothing else, makes me feel good about the camera built into the phone.
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Tried the BSG camera port. The good news is that everything seems to work. The bad news is that I took a number of test comparison shots with the Samsung camera (both lenses, night mode, portrait mode). The Samsung photos were clearly superior each time. If nothing else, makes me feel good about the camera built into the phone.
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Can you take the selfie using the front camera? I tried G Cam from all mods and non of them has a working front camera. You can preview from the front camera, but you can't save the image.
As for the "superior", it's just personal tastes. Many people like the raw and real feeling of the G cam. Samsung's camera is too "vivid", the sky is bluer and the trees are more green, FAKE. And often lost the details because of the color management. G Cam, just captures the real world most of time.
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Can you take the selfie using the front camera? I tried G Cam from all mods and non of them has a working front camera. You can preview from the front camera, but you can't save the image.
As for the "superior", it's just personal tastes. Many people like the raw and real feeling of the G cam. Samsung's camera is too "vivid", the sky is bluer and the trees are more green, FAKE. And often lost the details because of the color management. G Cam, just captures the real world most of time.
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Sorry, I've already deleted G Cam, so I can't test the selfie cam. Didn't think to try it.
Came from S22U, so my experienceis not applicablefor everyone.
For sure, the camera is not like in that phone, especially I'm missing the telephoto one. Night shots are more messy and such.
On the other hand though, it's not that bad at all. Night shots are doing what it supposed to do, day photos are great.
In my mind, I can say that the cameras on Flip 4 gets "Decent +" mark