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I wonder if the Samsung Car charger Fast Adaptive which is the name sammy gave for Quick Charging 2.0 is compatible with the M9?
The wall charger version work from what I heard but dunno about the Car one
Maybe the output specs could shed some light on interoperability. I'd guess that between the differences of Samsung's Exnos processor and Qualcomm's Snapdragon there isn't much collaboration to build a common fast charging standard. Too bad, that.
computerslayer said:
Maybe the output specs could shed some light on interoperability. I'd guess that between the differences of Samsung's Exnos processor and Qualcomm's Snapdragon there isn't much collaboration to build a common fast charging standard. Too bad, that.
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It's made for the note 4 qualcomm too so it must be the same, I also saw somewhere you don't need a snapdragon cpu
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QC2.0 is a standard, so if it's QC2.0 compliant, that would seem to suggest it would work with any QC2.0 compliant phone, no?
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QC2.0 is a standard, so if it's QC2.0 compliant, that would seem to suggest it would work with any QC2.0 compliant phone, no?
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Yep!
The thing is that in some website that say fast adaptive = quick charge 2.0, and other not
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Sorry to jump into the conversation, but does this mean the home fast charger (or w/e they name it) by samsung is a quick charger which will work with our device?
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Sorry to jump into the conversation, but does this mean the home fast charger (or w/e they name it) by samsung is a quick charger which will work with our device?
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Some users said yes, in another hand S6 and note 4 are 100% compatible with quick chargers 2.0
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It's working great. :thumbup:
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I think i'll go and grab the Note 4 charger tomorrow as it's a 15W one.
Saw someone saying the quickcharger technology is not so good for the battery lifespan. I hope it's not the case.
Jhonys said:
Saw someone saying the quickcharger technology is not so good for the battery lifespan. I hope it's not the case.
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And they know this how? It's a brand new technology.
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And they know this how? It's a brand new technology.
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General properties of batteries. Fast charge and discharge cycles cause them to break down sooner.
Guys, I tested the Samsung Adaptive Fast Charger and it was a no-go. I tried two different ones under ideal charging conditions and what I found was the charger would sync with the phone and boost to rapid charge levels, but it wouldn't sustain them. It kept prematurely stepping back down to slow-speed, lower amperage levels. So IMHO you should save your $$.
The QC2.0 certified chargers that I have found work 100% are the ZeroLemon wall charger and the PureGear 12v car charger. Both will lock the phone on at high rates of charging unless (or until) the phone heats up too much, then charging is throttled until the phone cools down some. My observations are that it will definitely throttle after temps rise above 100F and if you cool the phone down by (e.g.) holding it in front of the A/C vent, rapid charging resumes.
Ok so I tested the Samsung Fast Adaptive Car charger and it's pretty fast even with the screen ON due to the Car App, though better let the screen dim by itself or the phone will get hot.
Conclusion: I recommend this charger even though it's a little bit more expensive than Chinese cheap QC 2.0 that can end up DOA or be bad for your battery
My wall QC 2.0 charger works as it should once over 3 and the screen can be a little weird
https://oneplus.net/type-c-cable Not a horrible price for the 150 cm at $6.99 I grabbed three myself.
fatboypup said:
https://oneplus.net/type-c-cable Not a horrible price for the 150 cm at $6.99 I grabbed three myself.
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Interesting deal those are quite the color
I hope they support fast charging. I bought 2 150cm and 1 100cm cables
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I hope they support fast charging. I bought 2 150cm and 1 100cm cables
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If you look at the USB-C pinout, I really doubt these support fast charging. These only have 4 pins for the USB 2.0 interface, I believe the 5W @ 3A is only possible via the cable bus power and ground since that delivery is unique to USB Type-C.
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If you look at the USB-C pinout, I really doubt these support fast charging. These only have 4 pins for the USB 2.0 interface, I believe the 5W @ 3A is only possible via the cable bus power and ground since that delivery is unique to USB Type-C.
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So you're saying it needs to be Type-C to Type-C for fast charging?
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I hope they support fast charging. I bought 2 150cm and 1 100cm cables
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It maxes out at 2A, and fast charge for the 6P is at 3A. It'll be charging at 2/3 the speed of fast charging.
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So you're saying it needs to be Type-C to Type-C for fast charging?
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AFAIK, that is true. I'm not electrical engineer though, only took the intro class to that major in freshman year...
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It maxes out at 2A, and fast charge for the 6P is at 3A. It'll be charging at 2/3 the speed of fast charging.
AFAIK, that is true. I'm not electrical engineer though, only took the intro class to that major in freshman year...
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I took an EE type course too but we never learned about pin set ups for cables lol. 2A is still good enough when I need a cable on he go
how much is shipping from OP?
Probably going to cancel my order then. I need the fast charging. Guess that means I need a new brick too then eh?
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Actually, it says in the product description that it delivers up to 2amps. Oops. Hope they get my ticket.
cm? This is 'Murica. Land of the free and home to the Google. How many inches/feet?
Although it may not matter much given a phone is obsolete in a year or two, I suspect charging at 2/3 or less would greatly extend battery life.
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cm? This is 'Murica. Land of the free and home to the Google. How many inches/feet?
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Let me Google that...
About 5' cable.
rufflez2010 said:
Let me Google that...
About 5' cable.
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Thank you I just read it is only 2A though. But thanks again. I was tired of Googling metric measurements. When will the rest of the world catch up and start using the empirical system?
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Thank you I just read it is only 2A though. But thanks again. I was tired of Googling metric measurements. When will the rest of the world catch up and start using the empirical system?
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. The world isn't ready for it. They need things to be base-10 for it to make sense.
I've ordered two of these, one of each size regardless of fast charge capabilities. I have so many regular USB-A chargers dotted all over the place that I might as well keep them useful. Plus the One Plus cables have a really good quality track record among their fans.
Also I tend to carry an extra cable with me with no charger for use in unexpected circumstances, and USB A ports are of course the most common available in a pinch. Simply practical to have extra C to A cables.
I might invest in an additional fast charger beyond what is supplied, once we have complete and precise clarification on how to maximize the 6P fast charging.
Awesome cables, I bought 5 because they're better than the offerings on Amazon while being easier to plug in, and perfectly compatible with my Macbook.
Mine came today
Definitely feels like quality cable
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Definitely feels like quality cable
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Did you order directly from OP?
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Did you order directly from OP?
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Yes
Hi guys,
I want to buy a extra charger for my 6P at work. I am wondering what specs should I be looking for for the quick charging capability? The google store has one that is 15W and another one that is higher. I don't know which one to choose, also, I want to see if I can buy any 3rd party one from Amazon that can give me quick charging.
Thanks!
I would stick with the one sold by Google until 3rd parties make one similarly specced. 5v / 3a / 15ww, USB type C plug.
https://store.google.com/product/usb_c_charger
I think everyone has the same questions regarding chargers and cables. It's probably best to try and get by with what's in the box for a bit, I'm sure affordable choices will soon be available.
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I think everyone has the same questions regarding chargers and cables. It's probably best to try and get by with what's in the box for a bit, I'm sure affordable choices will soon be available.
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There are 2 options now from Google, but I wouldn't call them cheap. I bought the $40 dual port charger for my bag because it seems nice, and if it sucks I can easily send it back.
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There are 2 options now from Google, but I wouldn't call them cheap. I bought the $40 dual port charger for my bag because it seems nice, and if it sucks I can easily send it back.
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On one review video it had "faster charging" at the bottom of the screen when the native usb-c was being used.
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On one review video it had "faster charging" at the bottom of the screen when the native usb-c was being used.
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Well yeah that's to be expected because Type-C supports fast charging.
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Well yeah that's to be expected because Type-C supports fast charging.
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I've always agreed with you on that. I'm wondering if people will see the same result w/o using the supplied usb-c charger.
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I've always agreed with you on that. I'm wondering if people will see the same result w/o using the supplied usb-c charger.
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Unless it supports 3A at 5V then probably not. any QC 2.0 charger will only output 2.0A at most for 5V so that's not fast charging.
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Unless it supports 3A at 5V then probably not. any QC 2.0 charger will only output 2.0A at most for 5V so that's not fast charging.
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Sure, I'm just wondering what will happen with the phone as well as total charge time differential.
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Sure, I'm just wondering what will happen with the phone as well as total charge time differential.
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At least 33% longer just look at the OP2 it takes 3hrs
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At least 33% longer just look at the OP2 it takes 3hrs
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Huh.... http://forums.androidcentral.com/ne...s-get-some-questions-going-3.html#post4759473
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Huh.... http://forums.androidcentral.com/nexus-6p/596702-i-ve-got-nexus-6p-here-lets-get-some-questions-going-3.html#post4759473
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I don't think he understood the question? I would wait for a clearer answer
Won't it work with any Qualcomm QC 2.0 power adapter (outputting 5, 9 and 12V) and with a suitable USB-C lead? I am hoping that will be the case anyway, as I've got two QC 2.0 adapters for home and 1 car charger adapter. Should keep me covered, and all I'll need to do is buy new USB-C cables.
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I don't think he understood the question? I would wait for a clearer answer
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He answered it below... That was with a QC2.0 charger giving him "2A" input according to Android OS.
Basically the phone shows "faster charging" when anything higher amperage gets used, not just native usb-c. The speed it charges is obviously not the same, but at least it utilizes a higher rate.
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He answered it below... That was with a QC2.0 charger giving him "2A" input according to Android OS.
Basically the phone shows "faster charging" when anything higher amperage gets used, not just native usb-c. The speed it charges is obviously not the same, but at least it utilizes a higher rate.
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I didn't see the 2A part just the fast charging. That's better than nothing but still not technically fast charging
New article that helps answer the question...somewhat:
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/10/19/nexus-6p-nexus-5x-quick-charge/
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Well yeah that's to be expected because Type-C supports fast charging.
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Assuming 15W is considered Fast Charging, then Type C has nothing to do with it. Current QC 2.0 chargers pump 18W via Type A to Micro B cables.
It is the limited design of the 6P that requires a Type C end to end solution (or captive charger) to permit fast charging. A little more thoughtful design choices would have allowed 18W via a Type A to Type C cable in the same way as the QC chargers operate by over charging a stupid cable or by respecting USB Power Delivery at 12V/1.5A in a smart cable solution.
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Assuming 15W is considered Fast Charging, then Type C has nothing to do with it. Current QC 2.0 chargers pump 18W via Type A to Micro B cables.
It is the limited design of the 6P that requires a Type C end to end solution (or captive charger) to permit fast charging. A little more thoughtful design choices would have allowed 18W via a Type A to Type C cable in the same way as the QC chargers operate by over charging a stupid cable or by respecting USB Power Delivery at 12V/1.5A in a smart cable solution.
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It can't go over 5V we have been over this before... So yes the Type-C doesn't affect the charging but the pin layout and chip only supports 5V from what has been seen so far.
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It can't go over 5V we have been over this before... So yes the Type-C doesn't affect the charging but the pin layout and chip only supports 5V from what has been seen so far.
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I concur, but it is important to dispel the marketing nonsense that Type C some how represents a "Fast Charging" solution. It is a connector and would have supported much better "Fast Charging" solutions than a steady state 5V solution. It will perform very well from 0% charge, but will lag higher voltage solutions at the other end of the charging cycle.
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I concur, but it is important to dispel the marketing nonsense that Type C some how represents a "Fast Charging" solution. It is a connector and would have supported much better "Fast Charging" solutions than a steady state 5V solution. It will perform very well from 0% charge, but will lag higher voltage solutions at the other end of the charging cycle.
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Sorry, this is not true. The higher voltage of the power delivery has no effect on charging speed given the same total power. This is especially true at the top end of the battery SOC where the charge rate is limited by the battery chemistry.
Hello all,
some reviews are saying that for dash charging one needs a special kind of cable - is that true?
Are there power banks which offer dash charging?
Thank you for your input
It's true, you will need a dash cable and also a dash adapter. As far as I know, there is no dash compatible power bank available.
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Actually there are Dash-compatible power banks, they just don't call it that. Dash is the same thing as VOOC, and there are VOOC power banks. Here's one:
https://www.amazon.com/Sdoutech-10000-Portable-Charge-Oneplus/dp/B078K8TZQ1
Thank you all - very helpful!
Hi there,
Does anybody know if all the cables/adapters compatible with Dash Charge for Oneplus 1,2,3,3T,5,5T are automatically compatible with Oneplus 6 too? Many Dash charge accesories providers didn‘t update their product description pages and I‘m womdering if I am safe when buying them for my brand new Oneplus 6.
any help would be appreciated.
Yes, the dash chargers and cables are compatible between the OP3,5,5t and 6.
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Actually there are Dash-compatible power banks, they just don't call it that. Dash is the same thing as VOOC, and there are VOOC power banks. Here's one:
https://www.amazon.com/Sdoutech-10000-Portable-Charge-Oneplus/dp/B078K8TZQ1
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Interesting, has anyone tried one of these? I thought that VOOC/Dash Charging was a patented, proprietary tech that OPPO/Oneplus didn't license out? I'm curious if anyone has tried this and found it to charge as fast as the Dash brick/cable combo.
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Interesting, has anyone tried one of these? I thought that VOOC/Dash Charging was a patented, proprietary tech that OPPO/Oneplus didn't license out? I'm curious if anyone has tried this and found it to charge as fast as the Dash brick/cable combo.
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I have not but I have been thinking seriously of getting one. Will report back if I do.
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Actually there are Dash-compatible power banks, they just don't call it that. Dash is the same thing as VOOC, and there are VOOC power banks. Here's one:
https://www.amazon.com/Sdoutech-10000-Portable-Charge-Oneplus/dp/B078K8TZQ1
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This is interesting. But, considering how dash charge works, doesn't the Power Bank battery get any stress?
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This is interesting. But, considering how dash charge works, doesn't the Power Bank battery get any stress?
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Not if it's built correctly. VOOC is 20W max - not really that much. I think QC 3.0 is 18W. I have a 20W Macbook backup battery I've been using for years and it still works fine.
It probably will wear out faster, but that's the case with any battery - slow charging means longer life. It's a trade-off.
It's not called Dash Charging anymore....Amazon and Bragi own the Dash Charging trademark. OnePlus just call it fast charging now...
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oneplus should call it 5V-4A charging and make it work with any usb-c cables and other chargers that able to deliver 5V-3A.
So, theoretically, because we have a Qualcomm Snapdragon 855 chip. Would it be possible with a custom driver/kernel to get both Warp Charge and Qualcomm Fast Charge enabled, depending on the charger we plug into?
I would think that Qualcomm would simply build this natively into the chips, but I'm a bit greenhorn and don't know if a separate chip would handle their fast charging.
No. Fast charging is hardware related also and I highly doubt OnePlus would ever move to it because Warp & Dash charging are QC Fast charging competitors.
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So, theoretically, because we have a Qualcomm Snapdragon 855 chip. Would it be possible with a custom driver/kernel to get both Warp Charge and Qualcomm Fast Charge enabled, depending on the charger we plug into?
I would think that Qualcomm would simply build this natively into the chips, but I'm a bit greenhorn and don't know if a separate chip would handle their fast charging.
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Our phone does support USB power delivery native through.
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No. Fast charging is hardware related also and I highly doubt OnePlus would ever move to it because Warp & Dash charging are QC Fast charging competitors.
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I thought about this as well! However, we have the Qualcomm Snapdragon 855 hardware. If the QC is built into that chip, a custom driver or kernel might be able to turn it on. Not officially of course, but I don't know if QC is built into the 855 chip, or if there is another dedicated piece of Qualcomm hardware which controls that function.
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I thought about this as well! However, we have the Qualcomm Snapdragon 855 hardware. If the QC is built into that chip, a custom driver or kernel might be able to turn it on. Not officially of course, but I don't know if QC is built into the 855 chip, or if there is another dedicated piece of Qualcomm hardware which controls that function.
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In all honesty Id say its 50/50 if a kernel could turn on QC. The SD 855 does support QC4 but I'm not sure if OnePlus was able to purchase the chip without the SoC technology that allows fast charging.
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Our phone does support USB power delivery native through.
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Can you explain how this works, because my USBPD chargers only seem to push 5v3a
Keep a fire extinguisher near by! ??
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Can you explain how this works, because my USBPD chargers only seem to push 5v3a
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I believe google made it a requirement that Android phone support USB PD. Warp charger is still faster than PD. The phone detects what kind of charger you are using and adapts the charging speed accordingly.
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I believe google made it a requirement that Android phone support USB PD. Warp charger is still faster than PD. The phone detects what kind of charger you are using and adapts the charging speed accordingly.
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I guess it is only using USBPD at 5v then, which maxes out at 3a. They are not using it on any of the other voltages, which would also make me believe QC isnt possible either per the OP.
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I guess it is only using USBPD at 5v then, which maxes out at 3a. They are not using it on any of the other voltages, which would also make me believe QC isnt possible either per the OP.
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Since warp charge works of increasing amperage than increasing currently, I would think that why only PD at 5v is supported. I don't if its possible the battery charging controller able to work with both varying voltages and amperages to get QC working.