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USB Type C [email protected] power bank available?

all is in the tittle

So I decided to be a brave tester and I ordered the Talentcell 10400 mAh power bank... it does have a Type c port so hopefully it will do try 5V/3A. I'm a bit worried as the box and literature in the box state that it puts out 5V/2.4A however right on the device itself it shows 5V/3A... So well see, unfortunately I have nothing to test it with as I do not have my phone yet... Link is posted below.
http://www.amazon.com/TalentCell-Flashlight-Chromebook-Supported-USB-Powered/dp/B00YZZYAX4

thanks
on the site of talentcell, it says 3A
http://www.talentcell.com/products/power-bank/type-c-power-bank.html
can't find it in canada -_-
Also, I found this one
http://www.ravpower.com/20100mah-external-battery-charger-QC2.0-type-c.html
it look amazing

warplane95 said:
thanks
on the site of talentcell, it says 3A
http://www.talentcell.com/products/power-bank/type-c-power-bank.html
can't find it in canada -_-
Also, I found this one
http://www.ravpower.com/20100mah-external-battery-charger-QC2.0-type-c.html
it look amazing
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That second one is a quick charge, so it will max out at 2.4A
Edit: corrected, there is a USB-C port that says 5v/3a
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but, look on the type c port, it say 3A.
Input (Micro): 5V/9V/12V 2A Max
Input (Type-C): 5V/3A Max
USB Output: 5V/ 2.4A
Type-C Output: 5V/3A Max
QC 2.0 Output: 5V/2.4A, 9V/1.5A, 12V/1.2A Max

warplane95 said:
but, look on the type c port, it say 3A.
Input (Micro): 5V/9V/12V 2A Max
Input (Type-C): 5V/3A Max
USB Output: 5V/ 2.4A
Type-C Output: 5V/3A Max
QC 2.0 Output: 5V/2.4A, 9V/1.5A, 12V/1.2A Max
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Looks like you are correct! I was looking at the first bullet, didn't see the second one
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heleos said:
Looks like you are correct! I was looking at the first bullet, didn't see the second one
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Awesome, now we just need it to be in stock.

Yeah, i'll also buy one
Talked to a rep and it say it's coming in canada soon (maybe a month?)

That battery looks sweet but I would kill for one that's smaller with maybe half the charge. I want something that I wouldn't mind putting in my pants pocket like if I'm going to be gone all day and night.

armandosal said:
That battery looks sweet but I would kill for one that's smaller with maybe half the charge. I want something that I wouldn't mind putting in my pants pocket like if I'm going to be gone all day and night.
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I didn't think the RavPower was that big until I saw a YouTube video of it. Way too big to carry it easily. If I could get one around 10k mAh with type c I would buy it right now.

htowngator said:
Awesome, now we just need it to be in stock.
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It can be ordered on Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/20100mah-Portable-RAVPower-20100mAh-Technology/dp/B0156HCJQO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1445462029&sr=8-1&keywords=ravpower+type+c
Honestly, this thing would be bad ass to rig up a charging backpack/messenger bag with.

Nah, it's perfect, I can put this in my car if I want and charge the 6p arround 6 times with it. or plug a dashcam

I just ordered one of the RAVPower ones today - it'll be in on tuesday so I can report back then

Just noticed on the spec list, you can charge this device via USB C port as well as the micro USB in. Pretty neat. Would make that dual type c charger from google worth a look.
***It will still charge faster via Quick Charge 2.0 charger FYI.

rufflez2010 said:
Just noticed on the spec list, you can charge this device via USB C port as well as the micro USB in. Pretty neat. Would make that dual type c charger from google worth a look.
***It will still charge faster via Quick Charge 2.0 charger FYI.
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Mine just came in! (the RAVpower)
love it so far. it's big, but lighter than my smaller capacity battery that I'm replacing. However I have a hard time believing QC2.0 will charge this bad boy faster than the USB-C port.
It's 5V/3A in and out, which is higher than the 2.0A input from QC2.0...I'll have to test when my N6P charger comes in, though.
*edit - it's only a 2A input, much lower than the USB-C input. So it definitely will charge faster via USB-C

QC 2.0 > 2.4A @5V. It varies on amp/voltage depending on battery level. I believe it maxes out at 18W, but I could be wrong there. It's listed there below the QC 2.0 port the different voltages, but the amps aren't there to show actual wattage. 2.4 is the iSmart port which is slower than the QC 2.0.
What's not listed in the specs on Amazon is what the max output is from multiple ports. With 20,000 mAh, I could charge multiple devices fully... Could I charge my N6P at 15Watts AND charge another device at 2.4A @5V/ QC 2.0?... Or all 3 ports (highly doubt there) maxed out.
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rufflez2010 said:
QC 2.0 > 2.4A @5V. It varies on amp/voltage depending on battery level. I believe it maxes out at 18W, but I could be wrong there. It's listed there below the QC 2.0 port the different voltages, but the amps aren't there to show actual wattage. 2.4 is the iSmart port which is slower than the QC 2.0.
What's not listed in the specs on Amazon is what the max output is from multiple ports. With 20,000 mAh, I could charge multiple devices fully... Could I charge my N6P at 15Watts AND charge another device at 2.4A @5V/ QC 2.0?... Or all 3 ports (highly doubt there) maxed out.
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Let me look since ive got it in hand haha:
http://imgur.com/zd8W2tR
Max input from MicroUSB = 2A
Max Output on both regular USB ports, both QC2.0 AND iSmart = 2.4A
Max In/Out on USB-C = 3A
I still think USB-C will be the fastest way to recharge this pack AND phones.
I'll also grab a tool to measure the output and I'll load up all the ports and see what each can output :good:

Actually:
Max input using QC on there is 10-24 Watts to charge
You're right on QC 2.0, its lower than 15 Watts. Just looked at my Moto Turbo Charger that comes with the Nexus 6.
5v 1.6A
9v 1.6A
12v 1.2A
Not sure why I thought QC 2.0 had higher output. What the hell is everyone *****ing about this phone not having QC 2.0 which is lower output than Type C Fast Charging? Much ado about nothing.
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rufflez2010 said:
Actually:
Max input using QC on there is 10-24 Watts to charge
You're right on QC 2.0, its lower than 15 Watts. Just looked at my Moto Turbo Charger that comes with the Nexus 6.
5v 1.6A
9v 1.6A
12v 1.2A
Not sure why I thought QC 2.0 had higher output. What the hell is everyone *****ing about this phone not having QC 2.0 which is lower output than Type C Fast Charging? Much ado about nothing.
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I think it's the same type situation as when apple released the lightning port. It's not a big deal because in like 3 months everything new will have USB-C, but for now, it's a problem because people have the old stuff...

I bought the RavPower

USB Type-C Wall Charger?

I have been looking everywhere, but cannot find a type-c wall charger. I really want to get another 2, one for work, and one for another room in my house. Has anyone found one somewhere else other than the Google store?

I just went to Amazon and searched for "type C wall charger" and saw some. Here's the first item in the search.
USB Charger, GMYLE 11W USB Dual Ports Type C & A Power Adapter AC Wall Charger for New Macbook, Nokia N1, Chromebook Pixel https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01193T77I/

meleelord said:
I have been looking everywhere, but cannot find a type-c wall charger. I really want to get another 2, one for work, and one for another room in my house. Has anyone found one somewhere else other than the Google store?
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I'm getting what seems to be poor performance from the stock 6p charger.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3234521

meleelord said:
I have been looking everywhere, but cannot find a type-c wall charger. I really want to get another 2, one for work, and one for another room in my house. Has anyone found one somewhere else other than the Google store?
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Have you tried Anker on Amazon?

cxm0429 said:
Have you tried Anker on Amazon?
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I don't believe they have any options at this time
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http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZOFS17K/ref=cm_sw_su_dp

plokm said:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZOFS17K/ref=cm_sw_su_dp
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In stock, estimated delivery Dec 1-17th
Are they walking it to me?
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akellar said:
In stock, estimated delivery Dec 1-17th
Are they walking it to me?
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lol

plokm said:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZOFS17K/ref=cm_sw_su_dp
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akellar said:
In stock, estimated delivery Dec 1-17th
Are they walking it to me?
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Pic shows Type A connector on the charger. I'd stay away from it.

Elnrik said:
Pic shows Type A connector on the charger. I'd stay away from it.
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Why? It is unclear if the original poster desired a captive Type C, Type C to Type C, or Type A to Type C charger. All 3 would work.
The problem with this charger is that 18W is for Quick Charge which is 9V/2A or 12V/1.5A. This charger most likely won't ever output more than 2.4A at 5V. Not that that is hateful, just not 3A.
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meleelord said:
I have been looking everywhere, but cannot find a type-c wall charger. I really want to get another 2, one for work, and one for another room in my house. Has anyone found one somewhere else other than the Google store?
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Do you specifically want a charger with a Type C port in it? Or would a 5V/3A Type A to Type C or Captive Type C charger be OK?
I think you are going to find that we are really early in the Type C adoption and there just aren't many small/handheld devices using Type C yet, so there aren't many accessories. The other is issue is 5V/3A is unlikely to be exceptionally prevalent even when Type C ramps up, but I could be wrong. I just think most vendors will use some form of voltage hopping quick charging technology, especially since QC 3.0 is built into the Qualcom SOCs where the Snapdragon 810 and below that use QC 2.0 require an additional chip. Not sure what the Lumia 950XL or Sony X5 (?) is using.

RED ZMAN said:
I just went to Amazon and searched for "type C wall charger" and saw some. Here's the first item in the search.
USB Charger, GMYLE 11W USB Dual Ports Type C & A Power Adapter AC Wall Charger for New Macbook, Nokia N1, Chromebook Pixel https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01193T77I/
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http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZOFS17K/ref=cm_sw_su_dp
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BZZZT. Try again, neither of those chargers are the right setup. The first one will only do 2.1A not 3A. The second does not have a Type C port it has a Type A and comes with a Type A>C cable which means you'll get about 1.5A maximum from it on a 5X or 6P.
To get 3 amp charging you need two things. A. The charger port MUST be a Type-C port. B. The charger must be rated for [email protected]

Google is best answer... for now.
None of the currently available chargers on the market can provide the 3W and intelligence needed to quick charge usb type c I've found so far. My solution, though not the cheapest, was to order the two port 22.5W google usb type c charger. It came quickly and it works great I can confirm. If you read the spec on type c charging it not only can do 3A @ 5V but also other amounts at different voltages I think... even 12V in some cases. I'm not sure if the 6P will use all of the options but USB type C is whole new animal when it comes to charging fast.

sluflyer06 said:
BZZZT. Try again, neither of those chargers are the right setup. The first one will only do 2.1A not 3A. The second does not have a Type C port it has a Type A and comes with a Type A>C cable which means you'll get about 1.5A maximum from it on a 5X or 6P.
To get 3 amp charging you need two things. A. The charger port MUST be a Type-C port. B. The charger must be rated for [email protected]
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BZZZTZTTT! Try again. Neither the title of the thread or the OP ask for a 3A wall charger, just a type C charger. I saw the one I posted was 2.1A, but he didn't ask for a 3A one, just type C.
See again the OP...
meleelord said:
I have been looking everywhere, but cannot find a type-c wall charger. I really want to get another 2, one for work, and one for another room in my house. Has anyone found one somewhere else other than the Google store?
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notfaded1 said:
None of the currently available chargers on the market can provide the 3W and intelligence needed to quick charge usb type c I've found so far. My solution, though not the cheapest, was to order the two port 22.5W google usb type c charger. It came quickly and it works great I can confirm. If you read the spec on type c charging it not only can do 3A @ 5V but also other amounts at different voltages I think... even 12V in some cases. I'm not sure if the 6P will use all of the options but USB type C is whole new animal when it comes to charging fast.
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Agreed, that's the one I bought and received a few weeks ago.

Thanks for the feedback guys! I'm looking for Type-C to Type-C at 3amp/5v, which I believe is the fastest?
I have heard Anker will be releasing their Type-C range within the next week on Amazon, so hopefully soon we should have some more accessories soon!
At the moment I have resorted to using my RAVPower portable charger with Type-C connection for when I don't have my mains charger on me. Although this is quite a nuisance...

Yeah, I haven't seen any other 5V 3A Type C ones, but honestly I haven't looked much. I picked up the dual 22W one from google for work, figured it came with a cable long enough for my use at my desk I'd just go that route for now. Hopefully we do start getting more soon, as I need a folding one for travel. My current one is Type A, and I have a few A to C cables at the house so at least I have something I can charge with.

RED ZMAN said:
Yeah, I haven't seen any other 5V 3A Type C ones, but honestly I haven't looked much. I picked up the dual 22W one from google for work, figured it came with a cable long enough for my use at my desk I'd just go that route for now. Hopefully we do start getting more soon, as I need a folding one for travel. My current one is Type A, and I have a few A to C cables at the house so at least I have something I can charge with.
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When i tested my Nexus 5p with choetech type c charger, 1.5 hours from 0 to 100%, almost same as 3 amps LG C-C charger, the charging speed dance from 2.6 amps to 0.5 amps regularly before 30%, then stable at about 1.8 amps, it's not a fast charging phone according to my test, would be glad to know if anyone could share the charging experience with Nexus 6p.

feihu989 said:
When i tested my Nexus 5p with choetech type c charger, 1.5 hours from 0 to 100%, almost same as 3 amps LG C-C charger, the charging speed dance from 2.6 amps to 0.5 amps regularly before 30%, then stable at about 1.8 amps, it's not a fast charging phone according to my test, would be glad to know if anyone could share the charging experience with Nexus 6p.
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My experience with the N6p on the stock charger is that while it will briefly bounce up to 2.8, it doesn't ramp up smoothly. It pretty much does a roller coaster like you described almost the whole time probably averaging around 1 to 1.5 amps. I also tried with my anker 2.4 amp and it didn't seem to be that much less. Very disappointing actually.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3237848

I used a 5V/3A charger with captive microusb (for raspberrypi). With a micro to c adapter, it charged my 6P at ~2.7A (less than 40% battery). The charger and adapter were less than $15 total.
I've also used a multi-port charger with a quality A-C cable and get ~2.4A charging.

I've got the Cheeotech one somewhere. I was one of the few they picked last year to test it out with the N6. That Amazon page is just their QC2.0 charger with a USB C to A cable. I will try to find mine and see how it charges.

NCguy said:
My experience with the N6p on the stock charger is that while it will briefly bounce up to 2.8, it doesn't ramp up smoothly. It pretty much does a roller coaster like you described almost the whole time probably averaging around 1 to 1.5 amps. I also tried with my anker 2.4 amp and it didn't seem to be that much less. Very disappointing actually.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3237848
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The battery and temperature control is the limitation of the charging speed, google could use a 5v 2a charger to get this job done, 5v 3a is actually not quicker for Nexus 5p, google is making jokes with us.

[Review 11/22] Ravpower 20100mah Type-C/QC2.0 External Battery Pack

Ravpower 20100mah Type-C & QC 2.0 Battery Pack
Overview: The Ravpower battery pack is supposedly the first USB Type-C battery pack out there. It charges the 6P using the USB Type-C standard of 5V/3A which is great because it’s the first true Type-C charger and battery out there not made by Google from what I have seen. I will compare the battery to the other ones I own which are just the regular QC2.0 standard and made by Aukey.
Ports/Charging:
The Ravpower features 4 total ports, now before you get carried away with the infinite possibilities of this I will first talk about what they offer.
Ports Comparison
Input Charging Ports:
There are 2 ports that can be used to charge the battery. The first is the conventional Micro-USB port. This port will allow you to have the battery with up to 24W, and is a good backup if you don’t want to charge it via USB Type-C. The next way the battery can be charged is via USB Type-C at 5V/3A (15W) which is slower than using a QC2.0 24W+ charger. I know there aren’t many 24W capable QC2.0 chargers but I have a 30W one made by Power Partners and it charges the battery a lot faster than my Type-C cable does.
Here is breakdown of the voltages/rates the battery can be charged at:
Output Charging Ports:
Type-C
The battery can charge up to 3 devices at once with its 3 output charging ports. The first and most relevant of these would be the USB Type-C port. It will charge the Nexus 6P/5X rapidly just as the wall charger would. I’ve had the battery for about 3 days now and it has been great! The USB Type-C port is reversible in terms of charging for this battery pack. The port can take 5V/3A and output the same 5V/3A to a phone so it cuts down on how many ports the battery needs.
USB Type-A QC2.0
This port features Qualcomm’s quick charge 2.0 standard and will quick charge any compatible devices at one of 3 voltages. The port can also charge the Nexus 6P/5X using a in spec Type-A to Type-C cable as you might expect. I have the iOrange cable and it will give me 1.5A as it should by the USB standard. I like the availability of a Type-A port because I can charge other devices from it while on the go.
USB Type-A iSmart Port
This is your standard 5V 2.4A USB Type-A port. There is nothing special about it in my opinion and they could have left this one out since the QC2.0 port also supports 5V/2.4A. It’s still there if you wanted to use it so I will leave it at that.
Here is a table of the output voltage and rates:
Battery I/O Rating Pictures
Design/Build Quality:
The design of the battery is nothing special, it’s a simple rectangle just like it should be. There is no reason to over design the appearance of an external battery as long as it gets the job done. I don’t mean this in a bad way at all because I like the simple design of it. There are 4 blue LED dots that indicate the battery level and they aren’t overly bright if you use it at night. There is a small button under the LED lights to turn the battery pack on or see its current battery level.
Let me get this out of the way: the battery is HUGE and might as well be a brick making up some old building in Philadelphia. With that being said the battery is solid but not too heavy overall. The battery is made with a plastic construction, but Ravpower does offer a 12 month warranty on it. I didn’t look to see what it covered, but I assume it should cover the standard defects but likely not physical damage. According to Ravpower these are the dimensions of the battery pack:
Here is a comparison between the 3 battery packs I currently have. (Aukey 10000mah Silver, Aukey 12000mah Black, Ravpower 20100mah Black)
Status Lights for each battery pack
What’s in the Box:
The battery comes with a mesh pouch to put it in while you are traveling about, but it has no extra pockets for anything else. There are also 2 micro USB cables included with the battery that can be used to charge the battery or a compatible phone. The flat style cables are nice and should be tangle free. I used one to charge my Bose QC20 (2015) headphones and didn’t have any issues. I would test them on another device, but I no longer have micro USB phones/tablets.
Dimensions
Overall 9.8/10
I’m enjoying the battery pack a lot and I think it’s worth the price right now. $47.99 isn’t bad for a 20100mah battery considering I have 2 Aukey ones (12500mah, 10400mah QC2.0 battery packs). The battery is big, but it has more than enough capacity to keep your phone/tablet alive for a few days at a minimum.
Here is a table comparing the Ravpower to the Google 22.5W Dual port Type C charger with different cables, I also tested my in spec Type A-C Cable using a 5V/4A charger

Reserved 1

So I would still need to get another C to C cable to charge my phone quickly, or use the included A to C at a lower speed?

fury683 said:
So I would still need to get another C to C cable to charge my phone quickly, or use the included A to C at a lower speed?
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You cna use the C-C cable that comes with your phone to rapid charge your phone. Any USB A-C cables are limited to 1.5A by design so it won't rapid charge with a Type A that is inspec. Out of spec ones might but its not worth the risk

Pilz said:
You cna use the C-C cable that comes with your phone to rapid charge your phone. Any USB A-C cables are limited to 1.5A by design so it won't rapid charge with a Type A that is inspec. Out of spec ones might but its not worth the risk
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Right, I just meant that if I wanted to keep this in my work bag or in my car, I would need another C to C cable, because the one that came with my phone would stay at home with the charger. Thanks for the review, I added it to my Amazon Wish List.

dammit pilz.....
ordered...

fury683 said:
Right, I just meant that if I wanted to keep this in my work bag or in my car, I would need another C to C cable, because the one that came with my phone would stay at home with the charger. Thanks for the review, I added it to my Amazon Wish List.
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Yes you need a C-C cable to rapid charge at the 5V/3A but you can charge slower with a Type-A to Type-C which will give you 5V/1.5A. The monoprice C-C USB 2.0 cable is inspec according to Benson so I would get that one. It's ~$13 I believe.
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dammit pilz.....
ordered...
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Let me know how it is. I try to write honest reviews since I do this for fun to help people out.

Pilz said:
Yes you need a C-C cable to rapid charge at the 5V/3A but you can charge slower with a Type-C to Type-C which will give you 5V/1.5A. The monoprice C-C USB 2.0 cable is inspec according to Benson so I would get that one. It's ~$13 I believe.
Let me know how it is. I try to write honest reviews since I do this for fun to help people out.
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That was a typo, right?

TheInVisibleGoD said:
That was a typo, right?
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No their 3ft USB 2.0 spec one was that much unless I'm thinking of another company.
Edit: the 6ft USB 2.0 spec C-C is $12.99
http://www.monoprice.com/mobile/pro...categoryid=10303&subcategoryid=1030319&cpncd=

I have this same charger. 70% off my town has been with out power for the past 3 days (including my house) and this thing saved me a few times already. I can fully charge my phone almost 6 times on 1 charge. It may be big but it charges fast and many times. I dig it

Just bought one today via Amazon with same day shipping! Question - can I charge my phone via USB A-C cable and simultaneously charge the battery with the C-C cable?

Cares said:
Just bought one today via Amazon with same day shipping! Question - can I charge my phone via USB A-C cable and simultaneously charge the battery with the C-C cable?
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I haven't tried but it might work. I know most batteries support I/O at the same time.
I will add the rest of the pictures tomorrow. Its been a very busy day so I haven't had a chance to take the other pictures

boynamedstacy said:
I have this same charger. 70% off my town has been with out power for the past 3 days (including my house) and this thing saved me a few times already. I can fully charge my phone almost 6 times on 1 charge. It may be big but it charges fast and many times. I dig it
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I've used it to charge my phone for the past 3 days just to test it. If has 2 dots left (~50% or less) which is good. The battery may but be metal or asthetically great but it gets the job done

OP updated with more pictures, tables, etc.

Pilz said:
No their 3ft USB 2.0 spec one was that much unless I'm thinking of another company.
Edit: the 6ft USB 2.0 spec C-C is $12.99
http://www.monoprice.com/mobile/pro...categoryid=10303&subcategoryid=1030319&cpncd=
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No, I'm saying about a C-C and a Type-C to Type-C cable, aren't they the same cable?

TheInVisibleGoD said:
No, I'm saying about a C-C and a Type-C to Type-C cable, aren't they the same cable?
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Yes you're absolutely correct that should have said A-C for the second part. I mistakenly thought you were referring to the monoprice cable cost I'll be sure to fix that thank you!
Edit: I corrected that typo from earlier thanks for clarifying that for me

Pilz said:
Yes you're absolutely correct that should have said A-C for the second part. I mistakenly thought you were referring to the monoprice cable cost I'll be sure to fix that thank you!
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No worries mate, I must say that I was confused as well...

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No worries mate, I must say that I was confused as well...
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I'm glad you let me know so I could fix it. Now I'll have to see how the battery holds up on my trip

Pilz good call... mine came about an hour ago... this is dope!

dadoc04 said:
Pilz good call... mine came about an hour ago... this is dope!
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I've been enjoying mine lately plus its capacity/size arent bad for what it is. I'll see how TSA likes it in my carry on because they are always stupid

spare type-c quick charger

want to know if it's worthy to have this one.
Motorola TurboPower 30 USB-C / Type C with Fast Rapid Charge Technology
on dailysteals
$ 11.99 or deal

coolshi said:
want to know if it's worthy to have this one.
Motorola TurboPower 30 USB-C / Type C with Fast Rapid Charge Technology
on dailysteals
$ 11.99 or deal
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https://www.dailysteals.com/product...h-fast-rapid-charge-technology?sdtid=11140467

coolshi said:
https://www.dailysteals.com/product...h-fast-rapid-charge-technology?sdtid=11140467
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It's a good price and certainly puts out enough power.

thelangosta said:
It's a good price and certainly puts out enough power.
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I'm seem to recall reading that Essential uses the 9V portion of the power delivery specification.
Here the ad notes:
Output modes:5V / up to 5.7A under control of Power Delivery compatible device.
So if it doesn't have a 9V mode the most the Essential phone will charge is at a 3A rate at 5V which means 15W. That's still going to give a you a charge at a good rate, but it's only about half the rate the phone is capable.

TimboC2000 said:
I'm seem to recall reading that Essential uses the 9V portion of the power delivery specification.
Here the ad notes:
Output modes:5V / up to 5.7A under control of Power Delivery compatible device.
So if it doesn't have a 9V mode the most the Essential phone will charge is at a 3A rate at 5V which means 15W. That's still going to give a you a charge at a good rate, but it's only about half the rate the phone is capable.
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I've found that the Essential charger rapid charges all the USB-C phones in the house.
The other chargers do not rapid charge the Essential PH-1. (LG G6 charger does rapid charge).
The Aukey USB-C chargers do not.

TimboC2000 said:
I'm seem to recall reading that Essential uses the 9V portion of the power delivery specification.
Here the ad notes:
Output modes:5V / up to 5.7A under control of Power Delivery compatible device.
So if it doesn't have a 9V mode the most the Essential phone will charge is at a 3A rate at 5V which means 15W. That's still going to give a you a charge at a good rate, but it's only about half the rate the phone is capable.
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But is it best to always charge at the fastest rate possible? I tend to think not but would never claim to be an expert.

thelangosta said:
But is it best to always charge at the fastest rate possible? I tend to think not but would never claim to be an expert.
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I tend to agree. I use a plain old 5V 2.7A charger at home as I don't have a need to fast charge the battery. When I travel I use the Essential charger.
I haven't read any data that says fast charging shortens battery life, but it wouldn't surprise me. The battery certainly get warmer and I do know heat is not good for batteries. So if I don't have need for it I don't do it.

3rd party cables

Anyone having problems with third party cables? Some cables won't charge the pixel 4 and when using on other smart phone, it works perfectly fine. Not sure if it's a restriction that google put in place but whatever the reason the cables are working fine with other manufacturers.

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Anyone having problems with third party cables? Some cables won't charge the pixel 4 and when using on other smart phone, it works perfectly fine. Not sure if it's a restriction that google put in place but whatever the reason the cables are working fine with other manufacturers.
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I'm using Anker cables, and a generic cable to connect to both my work and home computers. I have no issues with charging, and copying files back and forth.

mimart7 said:
I'm using Anker cables, and a generic cable to connect to both my work and home computers. I have no issues with charging, and copying files back and forth.
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I'm using cables from Baseus, Ugreen, Usam, Floveme and other Chinese brand. Some of those happens to work and some don't, not sure why. Just tried all those cable with the pixel 3 and they all work fine.

I only have Anker "red" cables and all are working from both Esemi and Anker chargers in the home and car.

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I only have Anker "red" cables and all are working from both Esemi and Anker chargers in the home and car.
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Do all the anker cables fast charge it?

Cables have to be Power Delivery (PD) compatible and not Quick Charge (Qualcomm).
It's not always clear what the standards are for cables and Anker sell both types. I always buy Anker and had to go through this recently.
These are the ones I choose Anker Powerline + C to C https://smile.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B06Y25Y6WX/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I've had similar spec in the past and these are reliable and tough cables!

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Cables have to be Power Delivery (PD) compatible and not Quick Charge (Qualcomm).
It's not always clear what the standards are for cables and Anker sell both types. I always buy Anker and had to go through this recently.
These are the ones I choose Anker Powerline + C to C https://smile.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B06Y25Y6WX/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I've had similar spec in the past and these are reliable and tough cables!
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I actually need a usb type-a to type-c cable to be used along with a powerbank like this one, so this powerline+ cable should be fine. Also, this configuration is not going to fast charge my pixel because of the absence of PD protocol, right? Which speed do you think I could achieve? Thank you

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I actually need a usb type-a to type-c cable to be used along with a powerbank like [https://www.anker.com/ca/products/variant/powercore--13400/A1315011]this one[/URL], so this powerline+ cable should be fine. Also, this configuration is not going to fast charge my pixel because of the absence of PD protocol, right? Which speed do you think I could achieve? Thank you
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It'll probably be 5v/2.4a speed so 12w. I do this for overnight charging.
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farrokh19 said:
I actually need a usb type-a to type-c cable to be used along with a powerbank like [https://www.anker.com/ca/products/variant/powercore--13400/A1315011]this one[/URL], so this powerline+ cable should be fine. Also, this configuration is not going to fast charge my pixel because of the absence of PD protocol, right? Which speed do you think I could achieve? Thank you
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Cable doesn't look PD, note where it says in product description "Compatible Devices (limited charging speeds)" it includes Google products all of whom are PD.
Your line for Powerbank doesn't go anywhere useful but again Anker are very bad at describing their products tech specs accurately.
So 5W charging, slow but OK for overnight charging, not great if you're on the go.

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It'll probably be 5v/2.4a speed so 12w. I do this for overnight charging.
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m+a+r+k said:
Cable doesn't look PD, note where it says in product description "Compatible Devices (limited charging speeds)" it includes Google products all of whom are PD.
Your line for Powerbank doesn't go anywhere useful but again Anker are very bad at describing their products tech specs accurately.
So 5W charging, slow but OK for overnight charging, not great if you're on the go.
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I hope you meant 5V, as the user above said. 12W are not that bad. By looking at the output of the original pixel 4 XL wall charger,it is stated as 3A at 5V or 2A at 9V. I suppose the last one is related to the PD protocol which increases the voltage to 9V in order to reach 18W (not sure here). If all I said is true, it should be able to receive 2.4A at 5V.
Could someone please confirm or confute that?

Just a quick update. I'm currently trying charging my pixel with the above-mentioned anker powercore and a usb-a to usb-c cable bought at a dollar store (working at up to 3A) and the current detected by the Ampere app is hovering around 1.5 A. Doing the math, it is just 7.5 w so rather disappointing. The system predicts a charging time of about 2h going from 15% to 100%.

farrokh19 said:
Just a quick update. I'm currently trying charging my pixel with the above-mentioned anker powercore and a usb-a to usb-c cable bought at a dollar store (working at up to 3A) and the current detected by the Ampere app is hovering around 1.5 A. Doing the math, it is just 7.5 w so rather disappointing. The system predicts a charging time of about 2h going from 15% to 100%.
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You should do actual charging times for measurement. Even if Ampere was accurate (It's not as accurate as something like this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MT8MC3N/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_1St6DbZRKJP9W) the 7.5w wouldn't be consistent from 0-100%. For example, the stock charger consistently does 5-80% in 60 minutes. See how fast/slow it is compared to that.
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EeZeEpEe said:
You should do actual charging times for measurement. Even if Ampere was accurate (It's not as accurate as something like this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MT8MC3N/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_1St6DbZRKJP9W) the 7.5w wouldn't be consistent from 0-100%. For example, the stock charger consistently does 5-80% in 60 minutes. See how fast/slow it is compared to that.
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Next time I'll check the charging time. Anyway it went from 15% to 99% in about 2h and 15min.

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Next time I'll check the charging time. Anyway it went from 15% to 99% in about 2h and 15min.
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Sounds about the same as my 5v/2.4a wall charger.
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