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Any good powerbank out there. At least a 10000 mah above.
To be able to use fast charging feature in Note 4.
Actually that sounds like it would be really cool if it exists, I'd also be interested in knowing if there's a powerbank that supports quick charge. I've held off on picking up a powerbank for a while now, but if something like this is even possible it would probably get me interested, it'd be pretty awesome to be able to just plug in to a backup battery and have it charge up the phone with quickcharge speed ;P I wouldn't be surprised to find out it's not possible though... Anyone know?
Think the dual voltage 5 and 9 volt needed for quickcharge wil be a problem to design a powerbank with a feature like that. I don't say it's impossible but probably won't be cheap or small formfacfor
Yea. Is cool if fast charge powerbank then bring out to fast charge note 4. Lol.
There is this compact power bank (and it supports quick charging itself within 3 hours - via 2.1A input - at least on paper)
APE MP5200Q on Alibaba (not aliexpress)
Weight: 132g
Input: 5V/2.2A
Outport: 5V/3.5A,9V/1.5A,12V/1.5A
3 output ports: 2 USB ports and 1 built-in micro USB cable
Over-charge/discharge, over-current,short protection
Quick Charge output port: output 9V/1.5A or 12V/1.5A on Quick Charge state
Battery Cell type: Samsung Li-ion 18650
Quick charge 2.0: Class A
and it looks good too!
the only missing thing to make it a perfect power bank, would be 15W wireless charging capability...
Please everyone do say what Power bank you have
& how much time does it take to fully charge a Drained battery
So we know which charges how many times, Once or twice or more ....
Thank you all
I have aukey quick charge the silver 10400mah model its charge lg g4 same as qc2.0 wall charger I have mah meter
I also have an aukey but the PB-T2 model 12000mAh. Have quick charge USB outlet and also a normal 1A USB outlet. Has a 2A microusb input for charging an a so-so LED light built in. A bit heavy and slightly longer than the Note 4 in size. Cons: I would have preferred a 2.1A instead of the 1A USB outlet for fast charging other non quick charge devices.
yosef019 said:
I have aukey quick charge the silver 10400mah model its charge lg g4 same as qc2.0 wall charger I have mah meter
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As above Aukey Quick Charge 2.0 external battery packs are pretty good. They do them in different sizes and go above 10000mah
BlitzWolf looks good.
banggood.com are doing pre order, to be sent out 20th November.
From a store rep..
We use the newer chip FP6600 that not only supports QC but also standard fast charging, the Aukey does charge at QC speeds with their THY100 but will not fast charge other devices such as your iPhone at fast speeds. BlitzWolf's newer IC provides compatibility beyond just QC devices. The battery of the BlitzWolf is is LG and also of a higher standard than Aukeys domestic Chinese brand batteries. In terms of safety and compatibility this is one step ahead of Aukeys 6 month old version.
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Use coupon "12blitzw" for 12% off.. (Don't know when it ends)
I am using Aukey Power Bank with 15000maH.
Supports Quick Charge and PowerBank itself charges as Quick Charging.
jianrong said:
Any good powerbank out there. At least a 10000 mah above.
To be able to use fast charging feature in Note 4.
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Hmm... we have Note 4's a removable battery is more compact and supports quick charge. Just have to get a battery charger that supports it. There would also be less power loss because it would be more efficient than transferring energy from one battery to another. Just my opinion.
Hi guys,
I want to buy a extra charger for my 6P at work. I am wondering what specs should I be looking for for the quick charging capability? The google store has one that is 15W and another one that is higher. I don't know which one to choose, also, I want to see if I can buy any 3rd party one from Amazon that can give me quick charging.
Thanks!
I would stick with the one sold by Google until 3rd parties make one similarly specced. 5v / 3a / 15ww, USB type C plug.
https://store.google.com/product/usb_c_charger
I think everyone has the same questions regarding chargers and cables. It's probably best to try and get by with what's in the box for a bit, I'm sure affordable choices will soon be available.
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I think everyone has the same questions regarding chargers and cables. It's probably best to try and get by with what's in the box for a bit, I'm sure affordable choices will soon be available.
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There are 2 options now from Google, but I wouldn't call them cheap. I bought the $40 dual port charger for my bag because it seems nice, and if it sucks I can easily send it back.
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There are 2 options now from Google, but I wouldn't call them cheap. I bought the $40 dual port charger for my bag because it seems nice, and if it sucks I can easily send it back.
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On one review video it had "faster charging" at the bottom of the screen when the native usb-c was being used.
htowngator said:
On one review video it had "faster charging" at the bottom of the screen when the native usb-c was being used.
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Well yeah that's to be expected because Type-C supports fast charging.
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Well yeah that's to be expected because Type-C supports fast charging.
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I've always agreed with you on that. I'm wondering if people will see the same result w/o using the supplied usb-c charger.
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I've always agreed with you on that. I'm wondering if people will see the same result w/o using the supplied usb-c charger.
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Unless it supports 3A at 5V then probably not. any QC 2.0 charger will only output 2.0A at most for 5V so that's not fast charging.
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Unless it supports 3A at 5V then probably not. any QC 2.0 charger will only output 2.0A at most for 5V so that's not fast charging.
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Sure, I'm just wondering what will happen with the phone as well as total charge time differential.
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Sure, I'm just wondering what will happen with the phone as well as total charge time differential.
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At least 33% longer just look at the OP2 it takes 3hrs
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At least 33% longer just look at the OP2 it takes 3hrs
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Huh.... http://forums.androidcentral.com/ne...s-get-some-questions-going-3.html#post4759473
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Huh.... http://forums.androidcentral.com/nexus-6p/596702-i-ve-got-nexus-6p-here-lets-get-some-questions-going-3.html#post4759473
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I don't think he understood the question? I would wait for a clearer answer
Won't it work with any Qualcomm QC 2.0 power adapter (outputting 5, 9 and 12V) and with a suitable USB-C lead? I am hoping that will be the case anyway, as I've got two QC 2.0 adapters for home and 1 car charger adapter. Should keep me covered, and all I'll need to do is buy new USB-C cables.
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I don't think he understood the question? I would wait for a clearer answer
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He answered it below... That was with a QC2.0 charger giving him "2A" input according to Android OS.
Basically the phone shows "faster charging" when anything higher amperage gets used, not just native usb-c. The speed it charges is obviously not the same, but at least it utilizes a higher rate.
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He answered it below... That was with a QC2.0 charger giving him "2A" input according to Android OS.
Basically the phone shows "faster charging" when anything higher amperage gets used, not just native usb-c. The speed it charges is obviously not the same, but at least it utilizes a higher rate.
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I didn't see the 2A part just the fast charging. That's better than nothing but still not technically fast charging
New article that helps answer the question...somewhat:
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/10/19/nexus-6p-nexus-5x-quick-charge/
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Well yeah that's to be expected because Type-C supports fast charging.
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Assuming 15W is considered Fast Charging, then Type C has nothing to do with it. Current QC 2.0 chargers pump 18W via Type A to Micro B cables.
It is the limited design of the 6P that requires a Type C end to end solution (or captive charger) to permit fast charging. A little more thoughtful design choices would have allowed 18W via a Type A to Type C cable in the same way as the QC chargers operate by over charging a stupid cable or by respecting USB Power Delivery at 12V/1.5A in a smart cable solution.
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Assuming 15W is considered Fast Charging, then Type C has nothing to do with it. Current QC 2.0 chargers pump 18W via Type A to Micro B cables.
It is the limited design of the 6P that requires a Type C end to end solution (or captive charger) to permit fast charging. A little more thoughtful design choices would have allowed 18W via a Type A to Type C cable in the same way as the QC chargers operate by over charging a stupid cable or by respecting USB Power Delivery at 12V/1.5A in a smart cable solution.
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It can't go over 5V we have been over this before... So yes the Type-C doesn't affect the charging but the pin layout and chip only supports 5V from what has been seen so far.
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It can't go over 5V we have been over this before... So yes the Type-C doesn't affect the charging but the pin layout and chip only supports 5V from what has been seen so far.
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I concur, but it is important to dispel the marketing nonsense that Type C some how represents a "Fast Charging" solution. It is a connector and would have supported much better "Fast Charging" solutions than a steady state 5V solution. It will perform very well from 0% charge, but will lag higher voltage solutions at the other end of the charging cycle.
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I concur, but it is important to dispel the marketing nonsense that Type C some how represents a "Fast Charging" solution. It is a connector and would have supported much better "Fast Charging" solutions than a steady state 5V solution. It will perform very well from 0% charge, but will lag higher voltage solutions at the other end of the charging cycle.
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Sorry, this is not true. The higher voltage of the power delivery has no effect on charging speed given the same total power. This is especially true at the top end of the battery SOC where the charge rate is limited by the battery chemistry.
I have the Samsung Note 4. Like the OP6, it has a proprietary "quick charge" mode, but I find it will also charge quite fast when provided with a non-Quick Charge source such as a battery that can source several amps of current.
How fast does the OP6 charge without the Dash charger and cable? (in terms of amps drawn from source?)
Like it would take years like why would you want to know this, if you broke your charger buy another and look after it like. It's one of the main features of the phone and they don't talk about how fast it charges like
At work i use a QC3.0 charger for my OP6. Didn't notice a great difference to the DASH charger at home. Maybe DASH is a few minutes faster.
40% to 70% charge with QC3.0 is still insanely fast.
Stay on topic guys. OP asked a question, which could be answered with facts, rather than opinions and scenarios. In my regular car charger, I go from 22 to about 70 in 40 minutes, if I can recall correctly.
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Like it would take years like why would you want to know this, if you broke your charger buy another and look after it like. It's one of the main features of the phone and they don't talk about how fast it charges like
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I'm not sure if you're serious or sarcastic, but In case of the former, here are a few reasons why someone might be interested in charging with other than the Dash Charger:
1) AFAIK, Dash is available in AC mains or 12V Car charger versions. I often use a 20K mAH Anker powerbank battery for charging. That is usually in situations where other power is not available, but a quick charge is needed. Huge current is available, but would the OP6 use it?
2) I use a compact travel charger that has 5 USB charging ports. Using a Dash charger would require carrying another charger (big, bulky, without retractable prongs), and occupying one (or more due to the shape) additional AC outlets.
3) I have a phone charger in my bedroom, at my desk, in my travel bag (both AC and Car style), and in my car. A quick check on Amazon seems to indicate that the Oneplus6 charger is several times more expensive than other "quick charge" chargers. Over multiple charger locations, the extra costs add up.
Using the word "like" so many times makes it difficult to understand the post.
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Using the word "like" so many times makes it difficult to understand the post.
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I'm Irish, apology
I have a stockpile of fast chargers that used the weird Nexus standard (5V, 3A, non QC) and they're okay, and for overnight or at my desk at work that's plenty fast to get the job done. The phone shows them as "charging" and not "charging slowly."
I purchased a "Tinduqin oneplus5T charger" from Amazon that works and looks exactly the same as the original dash charger for about $20, but it seems to already be sold out.
If you don't use dash charger,you only can charge at 5v 1.5a,I have tested it with apple 45w pd charger,xiaomi qc3.0 and nexus 5v3a charger
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I have the Samsung Note 4. Like the OP6, it has a proprietary "quick charge" mode, but I find it will also charge quite fast when provided with a anon-Quick Charge source such as a battery that can source several amps of current.
How fast does the OP6 charge without the Dash charger and cable? (in terms of amps drawn from source?)
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It won't charge very fast because it doesn't use any on board quick charge it's all in the dash charging brick
I have a bunch quick chargers 3.0 at home. It takes a life time. I end up buying the dash charger. I still use the quick charger for over night charging
there must be some sort of software restrictions on oneplus6 since measures show that oneplus6 cannot be charged with more than 5V-1.5A.
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there must be some sort of software restrictions on oneplus6 since measures show that oneplus6 cannot be charged with more than 5V-1.5A.
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Do you own the OP6? Do you have a USB power meter that could measure the charging current with and without the Dash charger and reply with the values?
On my Note 4, it charges at about 1.17A / 5 V when the screen is on, and the current goes up to 1.6A with the screen off. That is with either a QC2 Quick Charger or a battery power pack. The phone reports "quick charger connected" in both cases.
oneplus6 has 85% battery left, measured with usb voltmeter and original oneplus dash charger 5V-4A, it shows that oneplus6 is dawning 5V-1.3A and same thing is happening with other usb chargers capable to deliver over 5V-2A.
I guess oneplus6 should be discharged less than 50% or something in order to start receiving over 5V-3A
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At work i use a QC3.0 charger for my OP6. Didn't notice a great difference to the DASH charger at home. Maybe DASH is a few minutes faster.
40% to 70% charge with QC3.0 is still insanely fast.
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Is it possible to use a the original DASH-adapter but with another USB-C cable? I need a longer cable so I can use the phone whilwe charging.
OnePlus has a original cable for sale which is only 150cm Long.
My question is if I can buy any other manufacturers cable whish also support some sort of fast charging. I've heard for example that DASH-charging is the same charging model that Huawei P20 Pro uses, they just have different name. .
So, is there anyone here that has switched the OP original cable and charge it up with a cable from another manufacturer?
There has to be a solution to this. Me myself can't. be the only one that needs s longer cable.
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oneplus6 has 85% battery left, measured with usb voltmeter and original oneplus dash charger 5V-4A, it shows that oneplus6 is dawning 5V-1.3A and same thing is happening with other usb chargers capable to deliver over 5V-2A.
I guess oneplus6 should be discharged less than 50% or something in order to start receiving over 5V-3A
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That's normal. Phones pull the most amps when on low battery, then progressively less as they are charged.
Check how much it pulls on <40% and <80% respectively.
Well, I charged my Op6 with a no-name USB 3.0 charger yesterday (forgot my dash charger at home, I was by a friend) and from 3% to 100% it took about ~1 hour and 55 minutes.
Not that bad I guess. But I still prefer my dash charger
I'm using a huawei p20 pro charger atm. Phone states from 75 - 100 it will take 33 minutes. (prob a bit faster if I don't use the phone.
Here is a charging session with a Oneplus 2 charger without quick charge
Charging from 27% to 100% in 2 hrs, 40 min - avg. Charging speed: about 1000 mA/h
Hello,
I'm using this old thread since we're talking about the same thing.
Is there a kernel or rom for the OP6 that enables to draw as much current as possible form third party chargers? It's sad that it's stuck at 1.5A no matter the charger unless you use dash charger. 2A is already something, 3A would be awesome.
Of course only if this a software limit.
Basically, when the charger is unplugged, the adapter runs in 5V mode, which is safe and good. But when the tablet is connected, then it is upgraded to 9V mode. any USB devices connected with a splitter on the charger wire will receive 9V also! This near doubling of voltage could cause devices to be fried, so make sure your Huawei power adapter isn't powering any hubs!!
YouTube demo video coming soon, overvolting a fan!
Good catch!
Thanks for sharing.
I thought charges and/or device ports had a regulator to control input voltage?
CorruptedSanity said:
Good catch!
Thanks for sharing.
I thought charges and/or device ports had a regulator to control input voltage?
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Most electronics with a USB port will only be rated for say 5v, or maybe 6v to allow for naughty USB power supplies. 9v is nearly double 5v, and on sensitive low-tech chargers, like resistive ones that charge 18650 or whatever, you could expose the battery to a much higher voltage than what it should have, which could cause an explosion or whatever. I used a fan since it should be able to handle the extra voltage quite happily.
What do you mean fan?
Used a fan to cool what?
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Basically, when the charger is unplugged, the adapter runs in 5V mode, which is safe and good. But when the tablet is connected, then it is upgraded to 9V mode. any USB devices connected with a splitter on the charger wire will receive 9V also! This near doubling of voltage could cause devices to be fried, so make sure your Huawei power adapter isn't powering any hubs!!
YouTube demo video coming soon, overvolting a fan!
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There is not problem at all. Qualcomm charge technology and USB 3.1 do the same. The charger and the device negotiate what voltage they want to send the same power but less current (more efficient). You are not supposed to o what you did, it your fault and not from Huawei.
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There is not problem at all. Qualcomm charge technology and USB 3.1 do the same. The charger and the device negotiate what voltage they want to send the same power but less current (more efficient). You are not supposed to o what you did, it your fault and not from Huawei.
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what I was getting at is that if you were to use a splitter, like I did, then be careful, as the voltage might raise. This is not a concern most of the time, but it's good to just be careful.
My OnePlus 5T and it's dash charging only works when these 3 conditions are satisfied:
Dash charger
Stock OnePlus lead
Nothing else plugged in
otherwise it will default down to normal. It's a shame that this didn't happen on the Huawei charger, but hopefully this means that it will be easier for implementation for powerbanks, I can't find any dash charge power banks. And also apparently Huawei phones usually play nice with other chargers. (USB-C power delivery I'm not sure on this device).
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what I was getting at is that if you were to use a splitter, like I did, then be careful, as the voltage might raise. This is not a concern most of the time, but it's good to just be careful.
My OnePlus 5T and it's dash charging only works when these 3 conditions are satisfied:
Dash charger
Stock OnePlus lead
Nothing else plugged in
otherwise it will default down to normal. It's a shame that this didn't happen on the Huawei charger, but hopefully this means that it will be easier for implementation for powerbanks, I can't find any dash charge power banks. And also apparently Huawei phones usually play nice with other chargers. (USB-C power delivery I'm not sure on this device).
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I am just annoyed that Huawei do not use QC or USB-PD standards and I must use their charge to charge fast. I do not mind the 9v as my QC devices charges fast on the Huawei charger but not the other way round, forcing me to either change all my chargers or carry an extra charger.
Not sure if you are talking about FCP for in or out of powerbank, I have a Tronsmart powerbank that supports both QC3 and FCP out. It also supports QC in, which means it MAY charge faster with the Huawei's stock charger. I had not tested it that way yet but I think it should as the Huawei charger charges my other QC devices at QC speed.
Tronsmart Presto Power bank:
https://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-presto-10000mah-quick-charge-3-0-power-bank
Note that their own specifications regarding the input is incorrect, this picture shows the actual specifications behind the device, which shows it can take [email protected] in.
https://the-gadgeteer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/tronsmart-presto-3.jpg
Also refer to my thread from a while back discussing FCP and QC.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mediapad-m5/help/m5-quick-charge-t3822277
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I am just annoyed that Huawei do not use QC or USB-PD standards and I must use their charge to charge fast. I do not mind the 9v as my QC devices charges fast on the Huawei charger but not the other way round, forcing me to either change all my chargers or carry an extra charger.
Not sure if you are talking about FCP for in or out of powerbank, I have a Tronsmart powerbank that supports both QC3 and FCP out. It also supports QC in, which means it MAY charge faster with the Huawei's stock charger. I had not tested it that way yet but I think it should as the Huawei charger charges my other QC devices at QC speed.
Tronsmart Presto Power bank:
https://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-presto-10000mah-quick-charge-3-0-power-bank
Note that their own specifications regarding the input is incorrect, this picture shows the actual specifications behind the device, which shows it can take [email protected] in.
https://the-gadgeteer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/tronsmart-presto-3.jpg
Also refer to my thread from a while back discussing FCP and QC.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mediapad-m5/help/m5-quick-charge-t3822277
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I know your trouble, I have a OP5t, and that charges at 7.5W from my Huawei charger, when it can charge at 20W using dash charger, my mediapad charges at 10W from the dash charger, out of 18w capability. I do look silly carrying round two chargers with the same plug on them!!
Yeah no dash charger power bank, at least there is a Huawei FCP one like you said, I might get that as my next one, but I've got a lovely EC technologies powerbank, and that only does 10W no matter what, shame really as it is 82whr (massive!).
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I know your trouble, I have a OP5t, and that charges at 7.5W from my Huawei charger, when it can charge at 20W using dash charger, my mediapad charges at 10W from the dash charger, out of 18w capability. I do look silly carrying round two chargers with the same plug on them!!
Yeah no dash charger power bank, at least there is a Huawei FCP one like you said, I might get that as my next one, but I've got a lovely EC technologies powerbank, and that only does 10W no matter what, shame really as it is 82whr (massive!).
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Luckily (for me at least!), I do not normally carry my M5 around and therefore do not need quick charge on it. Even if taken on holiday, it can charge overnight in the hotel. However this put me off Huawei (and OnePlue, Oppo and any other brands that do not use QC standards) for my future purchase.
Wow, I didn't realize how bad this bites. MediaPad was my first QC3 device. Used it's charger in my bedroom. Then got a LG v35 QC3 phone last week to replace old Nexus 6P (USB C-PD). So excited to see the Huawei charger fast-charging both devices. So irritating to now realize that the LG QC3 charger won't fast charge the M5!
And Huawei is using a proprietary QC3 charging mechanism? ie. are there any compatible chargers on Amazon or only the charger from Huawei will fast charge the M5?
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Wow, I didn't realize how bad this bites. MediaPad was my first QC3 device. Used it's charger in my bedroom. Then got a LG v35 QC3 phone last week to replace old Nexus 6P (USB C-PD). So excited to see the Huawei charger fast-charging both devices. So irritating to now realize that the LG QC3 charger won't fast charge the M5!
And Huawei is using a proprietary QC3 charging mechanism? ie. are there any compatible chargers on Amazon or only the charger from Huawei will fast charge the M5?
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Sorry, Huawei does not use QC standards but their own FCP/SCP instead. QC chargers will not fast charge Huawei gear but Huawei charger MAY charge QC gear fast.
So if I plug my M5 into a standard QC3.0 charger (9v I think), does it at least charge somewhat faster than a standard, non-QC charger? I would assume so. And are they're any 3rd party fasxt chargers compatible w/Huawei's dumbarse proprietary QC3 charging?
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So if I plug my M5 into a standard QC3.0 charger (9v I think), does it at least charge somewhat faster than a standard, non-QC charger? I would assume so. And are they're any 3rd party fasxt chargers compatible w/Huawei's dumbarse proprietary QC3 charging?
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No it doesn't, as confirmed by a V/A USB meter. It will only top out at 5V/2A.
I repeat again, Huawei does NOT use QC3 technology, but FCP/SCP technology. If you are looking for a charger that can do both QC and FCP from the same socket, read through the tread again as I had already posted a brand and model that had been tested and confirmed to do both.
Ah, sorry, me dumb and had in my head that M5 was QC3. Now I get it -- FCP, not same as QC3. OK, I see your link and several other chargers compatible w/QC3 and FCP. Thanks!
Hi,
I have a ThinkPad E580 which comes along with a charger Type-C, on the charger has been written : OUTPUT: 20V-3.25A / 15V-3A / 9V-2A / 5V-2A
Is it safe to try charge my MediaPad M5 by this charger?
sz.hatef said:
Hi,
I have a ThinkPad E580 which comes along with a charger Type-C, on the charger has been written : OUTPUT: 20V-3.25A / 15V-3A / 9V-2A / 5V-2A
Is it safe to try charge my MediaPad M5 by this charger?
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I had used USB PD adaptors on the M5 before and it charges fine, but not quickly.
My Pad (M5 10.8 WiFi) charges via USB PD with 18 Watts using the 9 Volt Profile. What doesn't work is Quick Charge. Power delivery works fine
Is there anything special about the actual Huawei furnished cable? I need a longer one than what was furnished.
reubenray said:
Is there anything special about the actual Huawei furnished cable? I need a longer one than what was furnished.
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Nothing whatsoever
But get a good one that supports high wattage.
Some cables only transmit 5 watts
Meaning 5v and 1 amp
Technology from 2005
Does this model support power delivery like the Pro model? If so has anyone tested how many watts it pulls from a power delivery charger? Oneplus states the pro model supports 5V/3A power delivery which I believe is 15watts.
Pro 30W
Non Pro 20W
Linuxkek said:
Pro 30W
Non Pro 20W
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These specs are for Oneplus's proprietary warp charging which is separate from the power delivery standard.
Without that it's unreal slow, maybe 1A
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Without that it's unreal slow, maybe 1A
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you are uninformed. in addition to Warp, the 7p supports PD upto 3a with screen off. Android police confirmed this in their review.
OP is asking if 7 also supports this.
I have not measured charging speeds, etc. but I have a bunch of official Google PD bricks here for my 2XL and my OP7 charges just as fast, if not faster, than my Pixel. Just anecdotal but I was happy with charging performance.
I've charged my OnePlus 7 from 14% to 100% in about 1h and 15min. I call that really fast charging.
nIGhT-SoN said:
I've charged my OnePlus 7 from 14% to 100% in about 1h and 15min. I call that really fast charging.
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With the charger that came with the phone or a different charger?
The included charger, it's the 20W one.
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Without that it's unreal slow, maybe 1A
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The included charger, it's the 20W one.
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Do you know what this thread is about?
Everyone knows Dash 20W is super fast. We're asking about USB PD.
heov said:
Do you know what this thread is about?
Everyone knows Dash 20W is super fast. We're asking about USB PD.
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Like I sad, it will be 1A, maybe for the first 50% 1.5A, because with 3A a lot will not pay the extra bucks for Dash charger.
Pro: 5V/6A - 3A
Non-Pro: 5V/4A - 3A? No way... with luck maybe 2A
I will get my OP7 next week and I can test it but I'm sure you will get up to 1.5A
I've charged it with a power bank from Huawei, with fast charge and it charged pretty quick. I haven't look at the time it took, but next time I will.
Linuxkek said:
Like I sad, it will be 1A, maybe for the first 50% 1.5A, because with 3A a lot will not pay the extra bucks for Dash charger.
Pro: 5V/6A - 3A
Non-Pro: 5V/4A - 3A? No way... with luck maybe 2A
I will get my OP7 next week and I can test it but I'm sure you will get up to 1.5A
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So you are saying:
OP7 Pro supports USB 3.1, USB PD protocol to 3A, and Warp-protocol to 6A
OP7 supports USB 3.1, Dash-protocol to 4A, but NOT USB-PD?
Please do test it- to confirm, you must have 1. screen off 2. a USB power meter that can measure the draw (or an app that can record the draw while the screen is off- viewing current while in app will not work since it only works with screen off.
There seems to be a lot of people who don't understand what USB-PD is. Of course, if you use a normal USB charger that is neither Dash/Warp nor USB PD, it will not draw more than 1.5A.
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I've charged it with a power bank from Huawei, with fast charge and it charged pretty quick. I haven't look at the time it took, but next time I will.
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You can use a app, which will tell you how fast it charge.
heov said:
There seems to be a lot of people who don't understand what USB-PD is. Of course, if you use a normal USB charger that is neither Dash/Warp nor USB PD, it will not draw more than 1.5A.
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Dude, USB-PD means USB Power Delivery. How somebody can not understand what this mean?
Oppo slow it down to sell VOOC/Dash charger (and cable) in the kernel, like on the OnePlus devices before.
When the OP7 support 3A, with 5V, you will get 15W, which is almost QC 3.0, so you can get 5 charger and any cable you want for the same price as a Dash charger. There is no way!
So I've tried today charging with my power bank, a HUAWEI 10000mAh QuickCharge power bank, from 1% to 100% and it took about 2h and 30min. From 15% I think it would take about 2h to charge. Power bank fast charging is rated at 9V 2A 18W. With Ampere it was showing to chager at about 1.3-1.4A. I would say it's pretty ok, it's not as fast as with the original charger, but it's ok.
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So I've tried today charging with my power bank, a HUAWEI 10000mAh QuickCharge power bank, from 1% to 100% and it took about 2h and 30min. From 15% I think it would take about 2h to charge. Power bank fast charging is rated at 9V 2A 18W. With Ampere it was showing to chager at about 1.3-1.4A. I would say it's pretty ok, it's not as fast as with the original charger, but it's ok.
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That is not a USB-PD bank. It'll charge at 1.5A tops with that. Our phones can't do QuickCharge.
Do the same test if you can, but use a USB-PD charger and screen off.
This thread is about getting a confirmation that it can regulate with USB-PD upto 3A when the screen is off. Our phones will not support QuickCharge or any other proprietary protocol.
We know It does Dash/Warp, regular USB upto 1.5A, and now we want to know if it does USB PD.
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So I caved and finally tested it myself.
Yes, the regular OnePlus 7 does support USB-PD 5v upto 3A with the screen off. With the screen on, I could get 1.94A
I used an Essential PH-1 included charger, which is a USB-PD charger that can do 5V and 9V upto 3A. I went from 60% to 70% in 8 minutes, and used the logkit to capture the current. While on, I was getting a consistent 1.94A, which is higher than a regular USB charger which usually peaks around 1.4-1.5A. With the screen off, I kept the logkit going, and you can see the average is well above 2A (again, this is average- I had the screen on for a while before an after, which is why the average isn't 3A). It's also worth noting this was only from 60-70%.
So yes, like the OP7 Pro, the OP7 also supports USB-PD up to 3A with the screen off, and upto 2A with the screen on, much faster than a regular USB Charge, and ALMOST on-par with Dash Charging with screen off.
So hopefully this puts this thread to rest, and you can feel confident buying a USB-PD brick, and those that doubted it have learned that OnePlus didn't skimp on the USB controller on the regular OP7.
From the graph, you can see the flat line at -3 when the screen was off, and how it bounces "up" to -1.7 when it's on.
Can confirm, used my USB PD charger while away last week. Charge from 5ish% to full was around 2 hours. Much quicker than the old standard Microsoft USB C charger I use at home.
Charge time with PD was similar to that with my old mate 20 pro which showed 'fast charging' to indicate PD being used.