Does this model support power delivery like the Pro model? If so has anyone tested how many watts it pulls from a power delivery charger? Oneplus states the pro model supports 5V/3A power delivery which I believe is 15watts.
Pro 30W
Non Pro 20W
Linuxkek said:
Pro 30W
Non Pro 20W
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These specs are for Oneplus's proprietary warp charging which is separate from the power delivery standard.
Without that it's unreal slow, maybe 1A
Linuxkek said:
Without that it's unreal slow, maybe 1A
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you are uninformed. in addition to Warp, the 7p supports PD upto 3a with screen off. Android police confirmed this in their review.
OP is asking if 7 also supports this.
I have not measured charging speeds, etc. but I have a bunch of official Google PD bricks here for my 2XL and my OP7 charges just as fast, if not faster, than my Pixel. Just anecdotal but I was happy with charging performance.
I've charged my OnePlus 7 from 14% to 100% in about 1h and 15min. I call that really fast charging.
nIGhT-SoN said:
I've charged my OnePlus 7 from 14% to 100% in about 1h and 15min. I call that really fast charging.
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With the charger that came with the phone or a different charger?
The included charger, it's the 20W one.
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Without that it's unreal slow, maybe 1A
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The included charger, it's the 20W one.
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Do you know what this thread is about?
Everyone knows Dash 20W is super fast. We're asking about USB PD.
heov said:
Do you know what this thread is about?
Everyone knows Dash 20W is super fast. We're asking about USB PD.
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Like I sad, it will be 1A, maybe for the first 50% 1.5A, because with 3A a lot will not pay the extra bucks for Dash charger.
Pro: 5V/6A - 3A
Non-Pro: 5V/4A - 3A? No way... with luck maybe 2A
I will get my OP7 next week and I can test it but I'm sure you will get up to 1.5A
I've charged it with a power bank from Huawei, with fast charge and it charged pretty quick. I haven't look at the time it took, but next time I will.
Linuxkek said:
Like I sad, it will be 1A, maybe for the first 50% 1.5A, because with 3A a lot will not pay the extra bucks for Dash charger.
Pro: 5V/6A - 3A
Non-Pro: 5V/4A - 3A? No way... with luck maybe 2A
I will get my OP7 next week and I can test it but I'm sure you will get up to 1.5A
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So you are saying:
OP7 Pro supports USB 3.1, USB PD protocol to 3A, and Warp-protocol to 6A
OP7 supports USB 3.1, Dash-protocol to 4A, but NOT USB-PD?
Please do test it- to confirm, you must have 1. screen off 2. a USB power meter that can measure the draw (or an app that can record the draw while the screen is off- viewing current while in app will not work since it only works with screen off.
There seems to be a lot of people who don't understand what USB-PD is. Of course, if you use a normal USB charger that is neither Dash/Warp nor USB PD, it will not draw more than 1.5A.
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I've charged it with a power bank from Huawei, with fast charge and it charged pretty quick. I haven't look at the time it took, but next time I will.
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You can use a app, which will tell you how fast it charge.
heov said:
There seems to be a lot of people who don't understand what USB-PD is. Of course, if you use a normal USB charger that is neither Dash/Warp nor USB PD, it will not draw more than 1.5A.
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Dude, USB-PD means USB Power Delivery. How somebody can not understand what this mean?
Oppo slow it down to sell VOOC/Dash charger (and cable) in the kernel, like on the OnePlus devices before.
When the OP7 support 3A, with 5V, you will get 15W, which is almost QC 3.0, so you can get 5 charger and any cable you want for the same price as a Dash charger. There is no way!
So I've tried today charging with my power bank, a HUAWEI 10000mAh QuickCharge power bank, from 1% to 100% and it took about 2h and 30min. From 15% I think it would take about 2h to charge. Power bank fast charging is rated at 9V 2A 18W. With Ampere it was showing to chager at about 1.3-1.4A. I would say it's pretty ok, it's not as fast as with the original charger, but it's ok.
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So I've tried today charging with my power bank, a HUAWEI 10000mAh QuickCharge power bank, from 1% to 100% and it took about 2h and 30min. From 15% I think it would take about 2h to charge. Power bank fast charging is rated at 9V 2A 18W. With Ampere it was showing to chager at about 1.3-1.4A. I would say it's pretty ok, it's not as fast as with the original charger, but it's ok.
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That is not a USB-PD bank. It'll charge at 1.5A tops with that. Our phones can't do QuickCharge.
Do the same test if you can, but use a USB-PD charger and screen off.
This thread is about getting a confirmation that it can regulate with USB-PD upto 3A when the screen is off. Our phones will not support QuickCharge or any other proprietary protocol.
We know It does Dash/Warp, regular USB upto 1.5A, and now we want to know if it does USB PD.
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So I caved and finally tested it myself.
Yes, the regular OnePlus 7 does support USB-PD 5v upto 3A with the screen off. With the screen on, I could get 1.94A
I used an Essential PH-1 included charger, which is a USB-PD charger that can do 5V and 9V upto 3A. I went from 60% to 70% in 8 minutes, and used the logkit to capture the current. While on, I was getting a consistent 1.94A, which is higher than a regular USB charger which usually peaks around 1.4-1.5A. With the screen off, I kept the logkit going, and you can see the average is well above 2A (again, this is average- I had the screen on for a while before an after, which is why the average isn't 3A). It's also worth noting this was only from 60-70%.
So yes, like the OP7 Pro, the OP7 also supports USB-PD up to 3A with the screen off, and upto 2A with the screen on, much faster than a regular USB Charge, and ALMOST on-par with Dash Charging with screen off.
So hopefully this puts this thread to rest, and you can feel confident buying a USB-PD brick, and those that doubted it have learned that OnePlus didn't skimp on the USB controller on the regular OP7.
From the graph, you can see the flat line at -3 when the screen was off, and how it bounces "up" to -1.7 when it's on.
Can confirm, used my USB PD charger while away last week. Charge from 5ish% to full was around 2 hours. Much quicker than the old standard Microsoft USB C charger I use at home.
Charge time with PD was similar to that with my old mate 20 pro which showed 'fast charging' to indicate PD being used.
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want to know if it's worthy to have this one.
Motorola TurboPower 30 USB-C / Type C with Fast Rapid Charge Technology
on dailysteals
$ 11.99 or deal
coolshi said:
want to know if it's worthy to have this one.
Motorola TurboPower 30 USB-C / Type C with Fast Rapid Charge Technology
on dailysteals
$ 11.99 or deal
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https://www.dailysteals.com/product...h-fast-rapid-charge-technology?sdtid=11140467
coolshi said:
https://www.dailysteals.com/product...h-fast-rapid-charge-technology?sdtid=11140467
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It's a good price and certainly puts out enough power.
thelangosta said:
It's a good price and certainly puts out enough power.
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I'm seem to recall reading that Essential uses the 9V portion of the power delivery specification.
Here the ad notes:
Output modes:5V / up to 5.7A under control of Power Delivery compatible device.
So if it doesn't have a 9V mode the most the Essential phone will charge is at a 3A rate at 5V which means 15W. That's still going to give a you a charge at a good rate, but it's only about half the rate the phone is capable.
TimboC2000 said:
I'm seem to recall reading that Essential uses the 9V portion of the power delivery specification.
Here the ad notes:
Output modes:5V / up to 5.7A under control of Power Delivery compatible device.
So if it doesn't have a 9V mode the most the Essential phone will charge is at a 3A rate at 5V which means 15W. That's still going to give a you a charge at a good rate, but it's only about half the rate the phone is capable.
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I've found that the Essential charger rapid charges all the USB-C phones in the house.
The other chargers do not rapid charge the Essential PH-1. (LG G6 charger does rapid charge).
The Aukey USB-C chargers do not.
TimboC2000 said:
I'm seem to recall reading that Essential uses the 9V portion of the power delivery specification.
Here the ad notes:
Output modes:5V / up to 5.7A under control of Power Delivery compatible device.
So if it doesn't have a 9V mode the most the Essential phone will charge is at a 3A rate at 5V which means 15W. That's still going to give a you a charge at a good rate, but it's only about half the rate the phone is capable.
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But is it best to always charge at the fastest rate possible? I tend to think not but would never claim to be an expert.
thelangosta said:
But is it best to always charge at the fastest rate possible? I tend to think not but would never claim to be an expert.
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I tend to agree. I use a plain old 5V 2.7A charger at home as I don't have a need to fast charge the battery. When I travel I use the Essential charger.
I haven't read any data that says fast charging shortens battery life, but it wouldn't surprise me. The battery certainly get warmer and I do know heat is not good for batteries. So if I don't have need for it I don't do it.
I have the Samsung Note 4. Like the OP6, it has a proprietary "quick charge" mode, but I find it will also charge quite fast when provided with a non-Quick Charge source such as a battery that can source several amps of current.
How fast does the OP6 charge without the Dash charger and cable? (in terms of amps drawn from source?)
Like it would take years like why would you want to know this, if you broke your charger buy another and look after it like. It's one of the main features of the phone and they don't talk about how fast it charges like
At work i use a QC3.0 charger for my OP6. Didn't notice a great difference to the DASH charger at home. Maybe DASH is a few minutes faster.
40% to 70% charge with QC3.0 is still insanely fast.
Stay on topic guys. OP asked a question, which could be answered with facts, rather than opinions and scenarios. In my regular car charger, I go from 22 to about 70 in 40 minutes, if I can recall correctly.
ItsLaggyY said:
Like it would take years like why would you want to know this, if you broke your charger buy another and look after it like. It's one of the main features of the phone and they don't talk about how fast it charges like
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I'm not sure if you're serious or sarcastic, but In case of the former, here are a few reasons why someone might be interested in charging with other than the Dash Charger:
1) AFAIK, Dash is available in AC mains or 12V Car charger versions. I often use a 20K mAH Anker powerbank battery for charging. That is usually in situations where other power is not available, but a quick charge is needed. Huge current is available, but would the OP6 use it?
2) I use a compact travel charger that has 5 USB charging ports. Using a Dash charger would require carrying another charger (big, bulky, without retractable prongs), and occupying one (or more due to the shape) additional AC outlets.
3) I have a phone charger in my bedroom, at my desk, in my travel bag (both AC and Car style), and in my car. A quick check on Amazon seems to indicate that the Oneplus6 charger is several times more expensive than other "quick charge" chargers. Over multiple charger locations, the extra costs add up.
Using the word "like" so many times makes it difficult to understand the post.
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Using the word "like" so many times makes it difficult to understand the post.
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I'm Irish, apology
I have a stockpile of fast chargers that used the weird Nexus standard (5V, 3A, non QC) and they're okay, and for overnight or at my desk at work that's plenty fast to get the job done. The phone shows them as "charging" and not "charging slowly."
I purchased a "Tinduqin oneplus5T charger" from Amazon that works and looks exactly the same as the original dash charger for about $20, but it seems to already be sold out.
If you don't use dash charger,you only can charge at 5v 1.5a,I have tested it with apple 45w pd charger,xiaomi qc3.0 and nexus 5v3a charger
timg11 said:
I have the Samsung Note 4. Like the OP6, it has a proprietary "quick charge" mode, but I find it will also charge quite fast when provided with a anon-Quick Charge source such as a battery that can source several amps of current.
How fast does the OP6 charge without the Dash charger and cable? (in terms of amps drawn from source?)
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It won't charge very fast because it doesn't use any on board quick charge it's all in the dash charging brick
I have a bunch quick chargers 3.0 at home. It takes a life time. I end up buying the dash charger. I still use the quick charger for over night charging
there must be some sort of software restrictions on oneplus6 since measures show that oneplus6 cannot be charged with more than 5V-1.5A.
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there must be some sort of software restrictions on oneplus6 since measures show that oneplus6 cannot be charged with more than 5V-1.5A.
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Do you own the OP6? Do you have a USB power meter that could measure the charging current with and without the Dash charger and reply with the values?
On my Note 4, it charges at about 1.17A / 5 V when the screen is on, and the current goes up to 1.6A with the screen off. That is with either a QC2 Quick Charger or a battery power pack. The phone reports "quick charger connected" in both cases.
oneplus6 has 85% battery left, measured with usb voltmeter and original oneplus dash charger 5V-4A, it shows that oneplus6 is dawning 5V-1.3A and same thing is happening with other usb chargers capable to deliver over 5V-2A.
I guess oneplus6 should be discharged less than 50% or something in order to start receiving over 5V-3A
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At work i use a QC3.0 charger for my OP6. Didn't notice a great difference to the DASH charger at home. Maybe DASH is a few minutes faster.
40% to 70% charge with QC3.0 is still insanely fast.
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Is it possible to use a the original DASH-adapter but with another USB-C cable? I need a longer cable so I can use the phone whilwe charging.
OnePlus has a original cable for sale which is only 150cm Long.
My question is if I can buy any other manufacturers cable whish also support some sort of fast charging. I've heard for example that DASH-charging is the same charging model that Huawei P20 Pro uses, they just have different name. .
So, is there anyone here that has switched the OP original cable and charge it up with a cable from another manufacturer?
There has to be a solution to this. Me myself can't. be the only one that needs s longer cable.
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oneplus6 has 85% battery left, measured with usb voltmeter and original oneplus dash charger 5V-4A, it shows that oneplus6 is dawning 5V-1.3A and same thing is happening with other usb chargers capable to deliver over 5V-2A.
I guess oneplus6 should be discharged less than 50% or something in order to start receiving over 5V-3A
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That's normal. Phones pull the most amps when on low battery, then progressively less as they are charged.
Check how much it pulls on <40% and <80% respectively.
Well, I charged my Op6 with a no-name USB 3.0 charger yesterday (forgot my dash charger at home, I was by a friend) and from 3% to 100% it took about ~1 hour and 55 minutes.
Not that bad I guess. But I still prefer my dash charger
I'm using a huawei p20 pro charger atm. Phone states from 75 - 100 it will take 33 minutes. (prob a bit faster if I don't use the phone.
Here is a charging session with a Oneplus 2 charger without quick charge
Charging from 27% to 100% in 2 hrs, 40 min - avg. Charging speed: about 1000 mA/h
Hello,
I'm using this old thread since we're talking about the same thing.
Is there a kernel or rom for the OP6 that enables to draw as much current as possible form third party chargers? It's sad that it's stuck at 1.5A no matter the charger unless you use dash charger. 2A is already something, 3A would be awesome.
Of course only if this a software limit.
EDIT : Confirmed. This phone support QC 3.0 now.
Come a bit as surprise,
Updated my P20 Pro C636 to .152 Firmware,
And noticed right away that now IT DETECT my QC 3.0 battery pack charger as Fast Charge (Two Thunder Icon Appear) and it charge with High Current,
Someone who already on .152 and have QC 3.0 charger in their belonging might want to test it as well.
But anyway, this is good addition for me. Since now i can have one battery pack to fast charging all my phones.
Bellow i attached the picture
otonieru said:
Come a bit as surprise,
Updated my P20 Pro C636 to .152 Firmware,
And noticed right away that now IT DETECT my QC 3.0 battery pack charger as Fast Charge (Two Thunder Icon Appear) and it charge with High Current,
Someone who already on .152 and have QC 3.0 charger in their belonging might want to test it as well.
But anyway, this is good addition for me. Since now i can have one battery pack to fast charging all my phones.
Bellow i attached the picture
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I have 70% of battery and it says 1 hour 30 to full the battery capacity
with wall quick charger with usb3 cable type or with original huawei cable
what about you?
xn3m said:
I have 70% of battery and it says 1 hour 30 to full the battery capacity
with wall quick charger with usb3 cable type or with original huawei cable
what about you?
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By "wall quick charger" is it QC 3.0 ? Or 2.0 or standard fast charger ?
Because this phone wasn't meant to support QC standard to begin with, and supposed only work with Huawei Proprietary Supercharge technology, thats why i quite surprise when it now show it as fast charging when am using my QC 3.0 charger.
How many Thunder icon you see next to the battery when you charge ?
And, are you on .152 as well ?
*double post* crappy connection. and this xda app been slow like, for months
*triple post* *geez* crappy connection. and this xda app been slow like, for months
otonieru said:
By "wall quick charger" is it QC 3.0 ? Or 2.0 or standard fast charger ?
Because this phone wasn't meant to support QC standard to begin with, and supposed only work with Huawei Proprietary Supercharge technology, thats why i quite surprise when it now show it as fast charging when am using my QC 3.0 charger.
How many Thunder icon you see next to the battery when you charge ?
And, are you on .152 as well ?
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Qc3.0 wall charger
Check my screenshot
I m on. 152
I have two thunder
I did have the save behavior with. 134
xn3m said:
Qc3.0 wall charger
Check my screenshot
I m on. 152
I have two thunder
I did have the save behavior with. 134
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I see,
i never got .134 on C636
but means it confirm that it works with QC 3.0 charger now, which is a good news for everyone.
less kind of charger to buy. since one will do now.
thx for confirming it
i just checked with voltmeter as well, and it indeed charge on 9V as well
Not to burst the bubble but fast charge through Huawei's own charge gives up to 4.5A, yours only gets 2.5A and that's not fast charge but possible quick charge that Qualcomm uses.
Jake.S said:
Not to burst the bubble but fast charge through Huawei's own charge gives up to 4.5A, yours only gets 2.5A and that's not fast charge but possible quick charge that Qualcomm uses.
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Yes, that i know. LoL
but prior to this, even using QC 3.0 charger will only give me less than 2A, since it only act as normal fast charging,
so, this might be not doing any miracle,
but at least now i know my QC charger will fast my phone faster than it previously does.
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I have 70% of battery and it says 1 hour 30 to full the battery capacity
with wall quick charger with usb3 cable type or with original huawei cable
what about you?
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i don't have mine on me, but that doesn't sound right at all. even from a dead phone, i think i'm fully charged in under 2hrs, maybe 90 minutes
bravo261 said:
i don't have mine on me, but that doesn't sound right at all. even from a dead phone, i think i'm fully charged in under 2hrs, maybe 90 minutes
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That calculation on the screen is innacurate for most of the time. Because it fluctuate often.
And since his battery is on 70 its normal that the charger doesnt supply full current/volt,
That just how it designed.
And you are right,
For most of the case, our phone will be fully charged in around 2 Hrs using supplied charger
Stock Huawei charger includes both supercharged capable adapter, and cable (look for purple ends)
Outputs 2A, 5A, 4.5A
Uhmm that's interesting.
I resumed my old powerbank I used for my old nexus 6p, it's a Tronsmart and it claims to be QC 3.0
Fast charge was working with 6p, I plugged in the p20 pro and I don't get your results.
I'm on c636 152, charge is still normal.
I don't know if the powerbank lies, or the cables, but I tried different ones.
What cable did you use?
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Uhmm that's interesting.
I resumed my old powerbank I used for my old nexus 6p, it's a Tronsmart and it claims to be QC 3.0
Fast charge was working with 6p, I plugged in the p20 pro and I don't get your results.
I'm on c636 152, charge is still normal.
I don't know if the powerbank lies, or the cables, but I tried different ones.
What cable did you use?
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QC 3.0 cable or USB PD C to C cable. Both works
I have a QC3. 0 battery bank and it doesn't fast charge my phone.
I'm on 152.
How can I update my p20 pro to the latest version while keeping all my data and stuff?
Once I done this I can confirm this for you guys as I have a current and voltage meter which I can use to confirm that it is indeed charging at QC3.0 speeds.
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How can I update my p20 pro to the latest version while keeping all my data and stuff?
Once I done this I can confirm this for you guys as I have a current and voltage meter which I can use to confirm that it is indeed charging at QC3.0 speeds.
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yes you keep everything
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yes you keep everything
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I was actually asking how can I update to this.
I don't get the double charge icon even with the default charger, I don't know where it comes from
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I was actually asking how can I update to this.
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Go to MangusZen HurUpdater thread. That thread have all info you need.
Basically, when the charger is unplugged, the adapter runs in 5V mode, which is safe and good. But when the tablet is connected, then it is upgraded to 9V mode. any USB devices connected with a splitter on the charger wire will receive 9V also! This near doubling of voltage could cause devices to be fried, so make sure your Huawei power adapter isn't powering any hubs!!
YouTube demo video coming soon, overvolting a fan!
Good catch!
Thanks for sharing.
I thought charges and/or device ports had a regulator to control input voltage?
CorruptedSanity said:
Good catch!
Thanks for sharing.
I thought charges and/or device ports had a regulator to control input voltage?
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Most electronics with a USB port will only be rated for say 5v, or maybe 6v to allow for naughty USB power supplies. 9v is nearly double 5v, and on sensitive low-tech chargers, like resistive ones that charge 18650 or whatever, you could expose the battery to a much higher voltage than what it should have, which could cause an explosion or whatever. I used a fan since it should be able to handle the extra voltage quite happily.
What do you mean fan?
Used a fan to cool what?
Michaelflat1 said:
Basically, when the charger is unplugged, the adapter runs in 5V mode, which is safe and good. But when the tablet is connected, then it is upgraded to 9V mode. any USB devices connected with a splitter on the charger wire will receive 9V also! This near doubling of voltage could cause devices to be fried, so make sure your Huawei power adapter isn't powering any hubs!!
YouTube demo video coming soon, overvolting a fan!
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There is not problem at all. Qualcomm charge technology and USB 3.1 do the same. The charger and the device negotiate what voltage they want to send the same power but less current (more efficient). You are not supposed to o what you did, it your fault and not from Huawei.
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There is not problem at all. Qualcomm charge technology and USB 3.1 do the same. The charger and the device negotiate what voltage they want to send the same power but less current (more efficient). You are not supposed to o what you did, it your fault and not from Huawei.
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what I was getting at is that if you were to use a splitter, like I did, then be careful, as the voltage might raise. This is not a concern most of the time, but it's good to just be careful.
My OnePlus 5T and it's dash charging only works when these 3 conditions are satisfied:
Dash charger
Stock OnePlus lead
Nothing else plugged in
otherwise it will default down to normal. It's a shame that this didn't happen on the Huawei charger, but hopefully this means that it will be easier for implementation for powerbanks, I can't find any dash charge power banks. And also apparently Huawei phones usually play nice with other chargers. (USB-C power delivery I'm not sure on this device).
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what I was getting at is that if you were to use a splitter, like I did, then be careful, as the voltage might raise. This is not a concern most of the time, but it's good to just be careful.
My OnePlus 5T and it's dash charging only works when these 3 conditions are satisfied:
Dash charger
Stock OnePlus lead
Nothing else plugged in
otherwise it will default down to normal. It's a shame that this didn't happen on the Huawei charger, but hopefully this means that it will be easier for implementation for powerbanks, I can't find any dash charge power banks. And also apparently Huawei phones usually play nice with other chargers. (USB-C power delivery I'm not sure on this device).
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I am just annoyed that Huawei do not use QC or USB-PD standards and I must use their charge to charge fast. I do not mind the 9v as my QC devices charges fast on the Huawei charger but not the other way round, forcing me to either change all my chargers or carry an extra charger.
Not sure if you are talking about FCP for in or out of powerbank, I have a Tronsmart powerbank that supports both QC3 and FCP out. It also supports QC in, which means it MAY charge faster with the Huawei's stock charger. I had not tested it that way yet but I think it should as the Huawei charger charges my other QC devices at QC speed.
Tronsmart Presto Power bank:
https://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-presto-10000mah-quick-charge-3-0-power-bank
Note that their own specifications regarding the input is incorrect, this picture shows the actual specifications behind the device, which shows it can take [email protected] in.
https://the-gadgeteer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/tronsmart-presto-3.jpg
Also refer to my thread from a while back discussing FCP and QC.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mediapad-m5/help/m5-quick-charge-t3822277
alvinlwh said:
I am just annoyed that Huawei do not use QC or USB-PD standards and I must use their charge to charge fast. I do not mind the 9v as my QC devices charges fast on the Huawei charger but not the other way round, forcing me to either change all my chargers or carry an extra charger.
Not sure if you are talking about FCP for in or out of powerbank, I have a Tronsmart powerbank that supports both QC3 and FCP out. It also supports QC in, which means it MAY charge faster with the Huawei's stock charger. I had not tested it that way yet but I think it should as the Huawei charger charges my other QC devices at QC speed.
Tronsmart Presto Power bank:
https://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-presto-10000mah-quick-charge-3-0-power-bank
Note that their own specifications regarding the input is incorrect, this picture shows the actual specifications behind the device, which shows it can take [email protected] in.
https://the-gadgeteer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/tronsmart-presto-3.jpg
Also refer to my thread from a while back discussing FCP and QC.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mediapad-m5/help/m5-quick-charge-t3822277
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I know your trouble, I have a OP5t, and that charges at 7.5W from my Huawei charger, when it can charge at 20W using dash charger, my mediapad charges at 10W from the dash charger, out of 18w capability. I do look silly carrying round two chargers with the same plug on them!!
Yeah no dash charger power bank, at least there is a Huawei FCP one like you said, I might get that as my next one, but I've got a lovely EC technologies powerbank, and that only does 10W no matter what, shame really as it is 82whr (massive!).
Michaelflat1 said:
I know your trouble, I have a OP5t, and that charges at 7.5W from my Huawei charger, when it can charge at 20W using dash charger, my mediapad charges at 10W from the dash charger, out of 18w capability. I do look silly carrying round two chargers with the same plug on them!!
Yeah no dash charger power bank, at least there is a Huawei FCP one like you said, I might get that as my next one, but I've got a lovely EC technologies powerbank, and that only does 10W no matter what, shame really as it is 82whr (massive!).
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Luckily (for me at least!), I do not normally carry my M5 around and therefore do not need quick charge on it. Even if taken on holiday, it can charge overnight in the hotel. However this put me off Huawei (and OnePlue, Oppo and any other brands that do not use QC standards) for my future purchase.
Wow, I didn't realize how bad this bites. MediaPad was my first QC3 device. Used it's charger in my bedroom. Then got a LG v35 QC3 phone last week to replace old Nexus 6P (USB C-PD). So excited to see the Huawei charger fast-charging both devices. So irritating to now realize that the LG QC3 charger won't fast charge the M5!
And Huawei is using a proprietary QC3 charging mechanism? ie. are there any compatible chargers on Amazon or only the charger from Huawei will fast charge the M5?
StephenMSmith said:
Wow, I didn't realize how bad this bites. MediaPad was my first QC3 device. Used it's charger in my bedroom. Then got a LG v35 QC3 phone last week to replace old Nexus 6P (USB C-PD). So excited to see the Huawei charger fast-charging both devices. So irritating to now realize that the LG QC3 charger won't fast charge the M5!
And Huawei is using a proprietary QC3 charging mechanism? ie. are there any compatible chargers on Amazon or only the charger from Huawei will fast charge the M5?
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Sorry, Huawei does not use QC standards but their own FCP/SCP instead. QC chargers will not fast charge Huawei gear but Huawei charger MAY charge QC gear fast.
So if I plug my M5 into a standard QC3.0 charger (9v I think), does it at least charge somewhat faster than a standard, non-QC charger? I would assume so. And are they're any 3rd party fasxt chargers compatible w/Huawei's dumbarse proprietary QC3 charging?
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So if I plug my M5 into a standard QC3.0 charger (9v I think), does it at least charge somewhat faster than a standard, non-QC charger? I would assume so. And are they're any 3rd party fasxt chargers compatible w/Huawei's dumbarse proprietary QC3 charging?
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No it doesn't, as confirmed by a V/A USB meter. It will only top out at 5V/2A.
I repeat again, Huawei does NOT use QC3 technology, but FCP/SCP technology. If you are looking for a charger that can do both QC and FCP from the same socket, read through the tread again as I had already posted a brand and model that had been tested and confirmed to do both.
Ah, sorry, me dumb and had in my head that M5 was QC3. Now I get it -- FCP, not same as QC3. OK, I see your link and several other chargers compatible w/QC3 and FCP. Thanks!
Hi,
I have a ThinkPad E580 which comes along with a charger Type-C, on the charger has been written : OUTPUT: 20V-3.25A / 15V-3A / 9V-2A / 5V-2A
Is it safe to try charge my MediaPad M5 by this charger?
sz.hatef said:
Hi,
I have a ThinkPad E580 which comes along with a charger Type-C, on the charger has been written : OUTPUT: 20V-3.25A / 15V-3A / 9V-2A / 5V-2A
Is it safe to try charge my MediaPad M5 by this charger?
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I had used USB PD adaptors on the M5 before and it charges fine, but not quickly.
My Pad (M5 10.8 WiFi) charges via USB PD with 18 Watts using the 9 Volt Profile. What doesn't work is Quick Charge. Power delivery works fine
Is there anything special about the actual Huawei furnished cable? I need a longer one than what was furnished.
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Is there anything special about the actual Huawei furnished cable? I need a longer one than what was furnished.
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Nothing whatsoever
But get a good one that supports high wattage.
Some cables only transmit 5 watts
Meaning 5v and 1 amp
Technology from 2005
The 7 Pro is supposed to support 5v/3A, 15W charging from a Power Delivery charger, but I'm only seeing 4.5v/1.8A, which is about 8W slow charging.
Am I reading this wrong? What's the best/highest/fastest charging you've seen from a PD charger?
Charger used: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07H9WMW6N/ USB C PD Charger with GaN Tech, RAVPower Wall Charger Adapter 45W Type-C Power Delivery
Cable used: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06Y25Y6WX/ Anker Powerline+
Your battery is above 50% and charging speed slows with increasing battery percentage. To determine maximum speed of USB PD for the OP7Pro you need to check at a lower charge level. Warp charge will also not charge with 30W all the way.
What battery app is that?
Even with the OP charger once you get to 50-70% changing rate slows down by at least 50%, try when the phone is at 10% and then watch it for a couple minutes, that will tell you the max for that particular charger
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What battery app is that?
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It's the built in diagnostics. Dial *#808# in the OP Phone app.
Swipe to the second screen, "Device debugging", and there's one test for Normal Charger, and one for Fast Charger.
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Your battery is above 50% and charging speed slows with increasing battery percentage. To determine maximum speed of USB PD for the OP7Pro you need to check at a lower charge level. Warp charge will also not charge with 30W all the way.
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Even with the OP charger once you get to 50-70% changing rate slows down by at least 50%, try when the phone is at 10% and then watch it for a couple minutes, that will tell you the max for that particular charger
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That's a great point, thanks! I'll try again from a lower charge state!
OnePlus has said it supports 15w PD while screen is off and 5v 1.5a while display is on.
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OnePlus has said it supports 15w PD while screen is off and 5v 1.5a while display is on.
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Link?
338lm said:
That's a great point, thanks! I'll try again from a lower charge state!
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Basically no change when the battery was much lower :crying:
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OnePlus has said it supports 15w PD while screen is off and 5v 1.5a while display is on.
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Relatively no change between screen on vs off
338lm said:
Link?
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Question: Do the OnePlus 7 and 7 Pro supportpower
338lm said:
Basically no change when the battery was much lower :crying:
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I'm seeing the same thing. I tried three different USB PD chargers that I used on my Pixel XL. The highest charge current I saw was 1980mA. The battery was in the low to mid 30% range. I used the Ampere app. To check the accuracy of the app, I tried two things. 1. I used the stock Oneplus Warp charger and Ampere showed 5740mA (wow, 5.7A is kicking some butt!). 2. While using my Belkin USB-PD car charger, I noted the voltage and current coming from my bench power supply. The bench supply was outputting about 10W so an Ampere reading of about 8W of energy into the phone made sense. I used three different cables too.
All my cables are USB-C to USB-C since all my PD chargers have a USB-C port on them. I see the standard for USB 3.1 has a max rating of [email protected] which can be done over a USB-A to USB-C cable. I wonder if the only way to get 15W into the phone (besides the Oneplus chargers) is to use a USB-A to USB-C cable with a charger that has a USB-A port and can support 3A? Edit: No, more research shows there there should be no problems with C-C. The Belkin PD car charger I have doesn't specifically say it supports [email protected], but the Anker AC USB charger does list [email protected] I can't get more than about 1900mA out of it even with the battery low.
I basically support all the users that OP failed this point to include proper USB PD function. Only 7.5w to 10w is supported without any dash or warp charger. Confirmed
should be fixed with 10.0.2
Power Delivery (PD) is very complex. For example the USB PD Revision 3 specification is 657 pages. Much of the complexity involves the negotiation protocols between chargers and phones or other devices. In cases where a compatible protocol can't be negotiated between a charger and phone the page 242 of the spec says: "Shall supply the default [USB 2.0], [USB 3.2], [USB Type-C 2.0] (USB Type-C®) or [USBBC 1.2] voltage and current to VBUS when a Contract does not exist (USB Default Operation)." That's my guess why people are seeing lower charging currents than advertised by the chargers.
The OP's charger has this interesting cryptic note on their Amazon page: "Rapid charge: USB-C charger delivers 45-watts of power to charge and recharge all of your important devices at a high speed with PD 3. 0 (5V/ 3a, 9V/ 3a, 12V/ 3a, 15V/ 3a, 20V/ 2. 25a) Note: USB adapter will not be able to trigger the PD protocol
Specifications are at https://www.usb.org/document-library/usb-power-delivery