Is it worth upgrading N5 from android 4.4.2 to 6? - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

My Nexus 5 is a workhorse, still on 4.4.2 because "if it ain't broke don't fix it".
My only issue with the phone is the poor photos and videos it shoots, especially comparing to iphones and samsungs.
The question, will upgrading to android 6 improve photo quality (stock google updates, not mods).
I am sure many of you used both versions and can comment on photo and video differences.
I know there are camera API improvements, security fixes, UI changes, let's leave them aside for now and talk about perceived quality of actual photos and videos taken.
Thanks for any feedback.

Nothing much, the camera is the camera, and it is not that great.

What I read is that the newer versions of android allow direct access to the raw image, so the processing and compression can be done in apps. I saw somewhere photos side by side which showed substantial difference (but I don't know what app they were using).
The camera hardware specs are actually not that bad.

Zach21 said:
What I read is that the newer versions of android allow direct access to the raw image, so the processing and compression can be done in apps. I saw somewhere photos side by side which showed substantial difference (but I don't know what app they were using).
The camera hardware specs are actually not that bad.
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Do it. Marshmallow is great!!! But don't upgrade. Use factory image. It's better..

GopalKaul said:
Use factory image. It's better..
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Do I need to root the phone to do that?

Zach21 said:
Do I need to root the phone to do that?
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No. You will need to unlock your bootloader but, which can be relocked. You can PM me for help. Thanks!!!

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Raw photos?

Hello, everyone. Bought some days ago HTC Diamond 2, right now I’m learning what can I do here. But reason why I’m writing is about internal camera. Here are few shots
http://vorobfiles.narod.ru/diff_forums/HTSD2/IMAG0016.jpg
http://vorobfiles.narod.ru/diff_forums/HTSD2/IMAG0029.jpg
http://vorobfiles.narod.ru/diff_forums/HTSD2/IMAG0066.jpg
http://vorobfiles.narod.ru/diff_forums/HTSD2/IMAG0068.jpg
http://vorobfiles.narod.ru/diff_forums/HTSD2/IMAG0073.jpg
http://vorobfiles.narod.ru/diff_forums/HTSD2/IMAG0074.jpg
Well, I think that’s pretty good for internal camera. But I’m sure that if I could get raw images, I could do more. So maybe there is some software that can get data from matrix without any phone enhancements and compression?
Same question concerning video recording feature. Any way to have 30fps with less compression?
Well, can't believe that no one interested in improvement of our cam.
vorob said:
Well, can't believe that no one interested in improvement of our cam.
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They were, here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=542923
Searched for 'RAW Camera'
Steeve24 said:
They were, here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=542923
Searched for 'RAW Camera'
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Oh, thx, now this thread can be delted

Google Camera Port Optimal Settings

As many have heard or experienced, the stock Razer camera sucks. The Google Camera Port is awesome but does anyone know the optimal setting for the Razer phone? Those options are complex and I have no idea about really any of them.
SETTING
Josh.Aguilar said:
As many have heard or experienced, the stock Razer camera sucks. The Google Camera Port is awesome but does anyone know the optimal setting for the Razer phone? Those options are complex and I have no idea about really any of them.
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Hi was you able to set the camera app to save photos to sd card ?
Portor30 said:
Hi was you able to set the camera app to save photos to sd card ?
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I haven't tried that TBH. I just use the internal storage.
Here you go
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/....20_7.0H_C2API_v.4.0_AllinOne_Full_Manual.apk
That apk based off google camera 4.4 modified by B-S-G .
I had issues with recent 5.x update so do recomend just stick with 4.4
does it make any difference at all between the stock and this google camera?
it's the only thing keeping me from buying this awesome phone , that is the camera of course.
cheers !
gbb14 said:
does it make any difference at all between the stock and this google camera?
it's the only thing keeping me from buying this awesome phone , that is the camera of course.
cheers !
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I notice there difference there is also a video only where they so you the difference between the 2 apps
Portor30 said:
I notice there difference there is also a video only where they so you the difference between the 2 apps
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Hey guys, I installed the Pixel camera app and immediately I noticed an improvement. The Razer camera seems to have a lag to it when moving it to different objects to take a photo. The Google app eliminated that. It's very smooth. Also, I noticed using the Google apk the photos don't look as grainy.
I can't wait for Razer to make improvements to the camera. It has potential. I will continue to experiment with this Google apk.
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Hey guys, here's that link to the video comparison if you want to see it.
Google pixel camera apk on Razer phone.
Proves Razer's camera has potential!
The video compares the camera of the Pixel 2 XL to the camera of the Razer.
The video does not show the Razer phone using two different apps.
cam
camera app samples
*Supersnake* said:
The video compares the camera of the Pixel 2 XL to the camera of the Razer.
The video does not show the Razer phone using two different apps.
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My friend, watch it again. He specifically says it's the Razer phone using the Pixel 2 XL ported camera app.
I think I actually prefer razer cam, the colour have a better depth and overall contrast - still dreaming of root and camera2 api for RAW capability, this phone will be a dream when that day comes!
gbb14 said:
does it make any difference at all between the stock and this google camera?
it's the only thing keeping me from buying this awesome phone , that is the camera of course.
cheers !
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When the lumia 1520 came out it was so horrible I stopped using the camera. Took a few months but they fixed the app, camera is still amazing even with the new phones coming out.
This is one area they're focusing on, they remarked they wanted to at least get basic functionality down, which you have to give them props on, Jan-Nov and they get a concept to market, and it doesn't suck. lol
Coming from years of Sony phones I have to say this is quite the piece of kit. Thoroughly enjoying audio and video. The camera is quite bad but I can wait for a fix.
Cool, right off the bat I can take pictures of text on my monitor without it going fuzzy like the pre-update camera app. Anyone care to try post-update razer camera app to take a pic of a website on their monitor? Does it go fuzzy?
i need the pixel camera to save to external sd card - is there a modded apk which offers this option?
obviously the reason it doesnt have that option off the bat is because the pixel does not have a micro sd slot
nsxdream2005 said:
My friend, watch it again. He specifically says it's the Razer phone using the Pixel 2 XL ported camera app.
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No he does not say anything about ported camera app. He is comparing 2 completely different phones
anyway to get this app to be the default camera as when i try to double tap the power it doesnt prompt me
iStasis said:
anyway to get this app to be the default camera as when i try to double tap the power it doesnt prompt me
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It should prompt you that's weird.
Anyway try launching the camera via the lockscreen see if that prompts you to change the default
These are my GCam cofig
SUPPORT LEVEL OVERRIDE: MEXUS_2015
SUPPORTED HW LEVEL BACK CAMERA: LIMITED
CONFIG CAMERA: PIXEL 2017 HARDWARE ZSL DR DOGFOOD
BUFFERS SIZE: 45
TOTAL IMAGEREADER IMAGE COUNT: 52
HDR+ BURST FRAME COUNT: 12
CALCULATION HDR+ IMAGEREADER IMAGE COUNT: ALL EXP CONFIG
These might be overkill ir wrong but they do the job.

In thought in buying U11, a few questions

Im in thoughts in buying a U11, but have a few questions
1) Is expanded desktop option available in the U11 settings(stock firmware)?
2) How close is HTC own firmware to Vanilla Android? Is it alot of bloatware?
3) How well does the custom roms like Aosp and Lineage handle the camera? Does it get more worse then the stock camera or is the stock camera ported to the custom roms?
4) Does anyone here have a few DNG Raw samples, would be really glad if I could get a few samples on outdoors daylight.
Thanks!
I'd recommend you drop into a phone shop and try the phone for yourself.
shivadow said:
I'd recommend you drop into a phone shop and try the phone for yourself.
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The problem is that there isnt many stores that have U11 in stock.
I'd say wait for the u12 if you want a top end phone but with that comes top end prices. The U11 is an excellent phone but if you want top end photos, buy a top end camera. What the U11 does, it does well but it is by no means a master of all trades. No phone ever will be.
shivadow said:
I'd say wait for the u12 if you want a top end phone but with that comes top end prices. The U11 is an excellent phone but if you want top end photos, buy a top end camera. What the U11 does, it does well but it is by no means a master of all trades. No phone ever will be.
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But thats not really an answer on my questions
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Im in thoughts in buying a U11, but have a few questions
1) Is expanded desktop option available in the U11 settings(stock firmware)?
2) How close is HTC own firmware to Vanilla Android? Is it alot of bloatware?
3) How well does the custom roms like Aosp and Lineage handle the camera? Does it get more worse then the stock camera or is the stock camera ported to the custom roms?
4) Does anyone here have a few DNG Raw samples, would be really glad if I could get a few samples on outdoors daylight.
Thanks!
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1) I don't know what is "expanded desktop"
2) No bloatware, only mail, weather and themes apps.
3) I don't use custom ROMs
4) Search in dxomark. Was the highest rated camera last year.
Pantumaca said:
1) I don't know what is "expanded desktop"
4) Search in dxomark. Was the highest rated camera last year.
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1) Expanded desktop makes it possible to hide the status field so you get more screen when using apps
4) Didnt find any DNG raw files on that review
@Peterrrrr said:
1) Expanded desktop makes it possible to hide the status field so you get more screen when using apps
4) Didnt find any DNG raw files on that review
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You mean "inmersive mode", right? Well, if the app has that option then yes. I use that with Flipboard.
If the jpg images look good there is no reason to think that the raw will be bad, I think.
Pantumaca said:
You mean "inmersive mode", right? Well, if the app has that option then yes. I use that with Flipboard.
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No immersive mode is an option in a specific app or an app(often root needed), expanded desktop can be found in the settings in the phone
Pantumaca said:
If the jpg images look good there is no reason to think that the raw will be bad, I think.
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Sadly it isnt the case all the time I have seen a few top models dng files, without the adjustment in sharpness, noise reduction, color, contrast and clearness they can look like ****
@Peterrrrr said:
No immersive mode is an option in a specific app or an app(often root needed), expanded desktop can be found in the settings in the phone
Sadly it isnt the case all the time I have seen a few top models dng files, without the adjustment in sharpness, noise reduction, color, contrast and clearness they can look like ****
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There is no expanded desktop option.
The dng files are for edit them, they will never look "fine" until you spend some hours of editing. That is what they are made for.

IS there a way to root your XZP on oreo without using XperiaFIX

Okay so i knw if you need to root your XZP you need XperiFIX , But you have to pay 20Eu for that. i dunno where you guys live but from my country currency that's a hecking lot. i Wonder if there is a easy and a free way to do the root on oreos newest security patch with DRM keys. Thank you
20 EUR is a heck lot, but paying 750 EUR for a phone is not. Probably you live in a villa and drive a mercedes s klasse?
Sorry for trolling but I'm still not convinced to root. What do I gain? A poor xz2 camera port who brings minor improvements to low light and... and nothing out there.
Snappatch is eye candy but i will root for one of these 3 reasons: 120hz display, or fullhd 960, or 4k hdr recording.
Stock rom is the best right now. I have disabled all bkoatware, even youtube, facebook and Chrome. Now I'm using youtube vanced and opera browser both with adds blocking and the phone is super fast.
Inerent said:
20 EUR is a heck lot, but paying 750 EUR for a phone is not. Probably you live in a villa and drive a mercedes s klasse?
Sorry for trolling but I'm still not convinced to root. What do I gain? A poor xz2 camera port who brings minor improvements to low light and... and nothing out there.
Snappatch is eye candy but i will root for one of these 3 reasons: 120hz display, or fullhd 960, or 4k hdr recording.
Stock rom is the best right now. I have disabled all bkoatware, even youtube, facebook and Chrome. Now I'm using youtube vanced and opera browser both with adds blocking and the phone is super fast.
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How did u do that (disabling all bloatware)
I want to do same xD
I've said disabled, not removed. Just disable the app you wish from settings apps, show system apps etc
sylaw said:
Okay so i knw if you need to root your XZP you need XperiFIX , But you have to pay 20Eu for that. i dunno where you guys live but from my country currency that's a hecking lot. i Wonder if there is a easy and a free way to do the root on oreos newest security patch with DRM keys. Thank you
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Use janjan thread.thats all.
Xz2 camera port have a much diffrence in photo quality with stock specially in lowlight and if you use turbo rom wich already included drm fix you gonna get 4k screen wich is easily kills 1080p man you gonna really feel a big change.
Actually you don't need to pay first that wasn't his full works coz there was some people who helped to find the drmfix and twrp and androplus kernel are free and you can find the drmpatch anywhere
sylaw said:
Okay so i knw if you need to root your XZP you need XperiFIX , But you have to pay 20Eu for that. i dunno where you guys live but from my country currency that's a hecking lot. i Wonder if there is a easy and a free way to do the root on oreos newest security patch with DRM keys. Thank you
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Everything you want to do is available, but you have to be willing to use ADB and Fastboot to flash files. You don't "do root on Oreo's newest security patch." If you want to begin modding your phone then it's important to know what you are doing first.
To do anything you need to unlock your bootloader. This will completely remove the partition with your DRM keys (your camera won't work and you'll need a patch) and you can never restore them. Rooting and using a DRM patch simply 'fools' the system into thinking you have them. However, unlike most other Android phones, with so little development being done for this phone, if you like keeping your security updated, I'd strongly recommend not unlocking your bootloader. You can also never take another OTA update, so you'll need to become comfortable with either using one or two ROMs you can find forever and hope they're updated, or gather all the pieces and then install new stock firmware every time you want to update your system. And, you'll still need to hope someone updates a kernel that allows you to DRM patch your phone for each OS update.
However, if you do, then you can flash a custom recovery with Fastboot and from there on, pretty much do all your flashing from it.
Blackghosthm said:
Use janjan thread.thats all.
Xz2 camera port have a much diffrence in photo quality with stock specially in lowlight and if you use turbo rom wich already included drm fix you gonna get 4k screen wich is easily kills 1080p man you gonna really feel a big change.
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Is there a way to get that 4K Res without rooting? Is it same as abd method?

Oxygen OS 5.1.8 vs 5.1.9

Hi all,
With the release of the newest update to OOS, I am wondering how peoples real like experiences are with the new version.
Reading patch notes gives only a certain amount of information.
Apart from camera improvements, has there been any significant affect on things like system performance, battery life, etc?
Is it worth updating if currently your phone is working well?
Thanks!
I haven't gotten the update yet. Tried VPN with location Germany but will have to wait I guess
everything works well for me, no big difference to be honest. no battery drain, good performance. i couldnt notice the camera improvements yet, but i didnt do a real analysis
if you want to have the update earlier, you can use the app "oxygen updater".
FKy85 said:
I haven't gotten the update yet. Tried VPN with location Germany but will have to wait I guess
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You can download the Oxygen Updater app to download and install the latest update.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.arjanvlek.oxygenupdater&hl=en
midego said:
You can download the Oxygen Updater app to download and install the latest update.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.arjanvlek.oxygenupdater&hl=en
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thanks!
Some people are complaining, but people complain about every update.
It adds Google Lens if that matters to you. Camera seems about the same to me but I don't take a lot of pics with my phone.
Most important is that this one contains the 7/2018 security patch. That's enough of a reason.
iElvis said:
Most important is that this one contains the 7/2018 security patch. That's enough of a reason.
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Lol ok I know people want the security patches, but c'mon man, how many of you ever got hacked on you phone from some obscure exploit? I would stay on a slightly older security patch if it meant better battery, better camera and overall a better performing firmware. The security updates are good to have, but most of the time they aren't really doing a lot.
I updated. No major changes to be honest. I think the camera performed fine for me today. Not enough time to assess battery life but that will take a few days.
Sent from my OnePlus 6 using XDA Labs
iElvis said:
Some people are complaining, but people complain about every update.
It adds Google Lens if that matters to you. Camera seems about the same to me but I don't take a lot of pics with my phone.
Most important is that this one contains the 7/2018 security patch. That's enough of a reason.
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Definitely!
Fyi....Just updated, and did some before update pictures and after update pictures and have noticed less pixelation when zoomed in. Will need a couple days for it to start to show battery results.
Updated today and not noticing a big difference yet. Tho low light images look a lot better than before.
5.1.9 performs worse for me...clean install
iElvis said:
Some people are complaining, but people complain about every update.
It adds Google Lens if that matters to you. Camera seems about the same to me but I don't take a lot of pics with my phone.
Most important is that this one contains the 7/2018 security patch. That's enough of a reason.
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I can't seem to find Google Lens, how do you activate/find that option?
Milan-XDA said:
I can't seem to find Google Lens, how do you activate/find that option?
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Swipe up from the bottom of the camera screen. That will bring up the camera options, including Lens.
iElvis said:
Swipe up from the bottom of the camera screen. That will bring up the camera options, including Lens.
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Thx for the reply, but i still can't find it. Screenshot attached.
Milan-XDA said:
Thx for the reply, but i still can't find it. Screenshot attached.
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That's odd. Here's mine.
There was a leaked version of the 5.1.9 camera that had Lens. I flashed it and used it before 5.1.9 came out. You might try flashing that.
That's really odd that I don't have it.
Milan-XDA said:
That's really odd that I don't have it.
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is your camera v 2.7.33
MrSteelX said:
is your camera v 2.7.33
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Yes it's 2.7.33

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