IS there a way to root your XZP on oreo without using XperiaFIX - Sony Xperia XZ Premium Questions & Answers

Okay so i knw if you need to root your XZP you need XperiFIX , But you have to pay 20Eu for that. i dunno where you guys live but from my country currency that's a hecking lot. i Wonder if there is a easy and a free way to do the root on oreos newest security patch with DRM keys. Thank you

20 EUR is a heck lot, but paying 750 EUR for a phone is not. Probably you live in a villa and drive a mercedes s klasse?
Sorry for trolling but I'm still not convinced to root. What do I gain? A poor xz2 camera port who brings minor improvements to low light and... and nothing out there.
Snappatch is eye candy but i will root for one of these 3 reasons: 120hz display, or fullhd 960, or 4k hdr recording.
Stock rom is the best right now. I have disabled all bkoatware, even youtube, facebook and Chrome. Now I'm using youtube vanced and opera browser both with adds blocking and the phone is super fast.

Inerent said:
20 EUR is a heck lot, but paying 750 EUR for a phone is not. Probably you live in a villa and drive a mercedes s klasse?
Sorry for trolling but I'm still not convinced to root. What do I gain? A poor xz2 camera port who brings minor improvements to low light and... and nothing out there.
Snappatch is eye candy but i will root for one of these 3 reasons: 120hz display, or fullhd 960, or 4k hdr recording.
Stock rom is the best right now. I have disabled all bkoatware, even youtube, facebook and Chrome. Now I'm using youtube vanced and opera browser both with adds blocking and the phone is super fast.
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How did u do that (disabling all bloatware)
I want to do same xD

I've said disabled, not removed. Just disable the app you wish from settings apps, show system apps etc

sylaw said:
Okay so i knw if you need to root your XZP you need XperiFIX , But you have to pay 20Eu for that. i dunno where you guys live but from my country currency that's a hecking lot. i Wonder if there is a easy and a free way to do the root on oreos newest security patch with DRM keys. Thank you
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Use janjan thread.thats all.
Xz2 camera port have a much diffrence in photo quality with stock specially in lowlight and if you use turbo rom wich already included drm fix you gonna get 4k screen wich is easily kills 1080p man you gonna really feel a big change.

Actually you don't need to pay first that wasn't his full works coz there was some people who helped to find the drmfix and twrp and androplus kernel are free and you can find the drmpatch anywhere

sylaw said:
Okay so i knw if you need to root your XZP you need XperiFIX , But you have to pay 20Eu for that. i dunno where you guys live but from my country currency that's a hecking lot. i Wonder if there is a easy and a free way to do the root on oreos newest security patch with DRM keys. Thank you
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Everything you want to do is available, but you have to be willing to use ADB and Fastboot to flash files. You don't "do root on Oreo's newest security patch." If you want to begin modding your phone then it's important to know what you are doing first.
To do anything you need to unlock your bootloader. This will completely remove the partition with your DRM keys (your camera won't work and you'll need a patch) and you can never restore them. Rooting and using a DRM patch simply 'fools' the system into thinking you have them. However, unlike most other Android phones, with so little development being done for this phone, if you like keeping your security updated, I'd strongly recommend not unlocking your bootloader. You can also never take another OTA update, so you'll need to become comfortable with either using one or two ROMs you can find forever and hope they're updated, or gather all the pieces and then install new stock firmware every time you want to update your system. And, you'll still need to hope someone updates a kernel that allows you to DRM patch your phone for each OS update.
However, if you do, then you can flash a custom recovery with Fastboot and from there on, pretty much do all your flashing from it.

Blackghosthm said:
Use janjan thread.thats all.
Xz2 camera port have a much diffrence in photo quality with stock specially in lowlight and if you use turbo rom wich already included drm fix you gonna get 4k screen wich is easily kills 1080p man you gonna really feel a big change.
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Is there a way to get that 4K Res without rooting? Is it same as abd method?

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Cm 12 Official On Z3

Hi.I wanna flash cm 12 to z3.But i have worries.Do sony apps work on cm12?And as u know, we haven't Drm keys on cm12.What about camera's quality?Thank u guys.
LeonidasTurk said:
Hi.I wanna flash cm 12 to z3.But i have worries.Do sony apps work on cm12?And as u know, we haven't Drm keys on cm12.What about camera's quality?Thank u guys.
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Search and see other posts before asking same questions as many before you.
ondrejvaroscak said:
Search and see other posts before asking same questions as many before you.
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Can you give me a link for similar posts?I can't find my question.
No, they don't work, for now
I suggest you to wait some time, maybe they will add them when there will be a stable version.
CM12 / DRM
My opinion:
- CM12 is too fresh and still partially buggy. You can play with that, but thats IMHO all. Not considered production.
- Unless somebody makes serious effort, forget about official Sony apps. Some are bound to DRM lost in process of unlocking bootloader.
- Camera will work as good as good is the hardware of it. Picture enhancement provided by software is Sony Stock ROM specific and bound to DRM. I have seen some guys working on DRM removal.
- There may be other apps with postprocessing to compensate for Sony postprocessing (low light etc.).
ondrejvaroscak said:
My opinion:
- CM12 is too fresh and still partially buggy. You can play with that, but thats IMHO all. Not considered production.
- Unless somebody makes serious effort, forget about official Sony apps. Some are bound to DRM lost in process of unlocking bootloader.
- Camera will work as good as good is the hardware of it. Picture enhancement provided by software is Sony Stock ROM specific and bound to DRM. I have seen some guys working on DRM removal.
- There may be other apps with postprocessing to compensate for Sony postprocessing (low light etc.).
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I will wait for "Serious effort".Is there any thread about this?
LeonidasTurk said:
I will wait for "Serious effort".Is there any thread about this?
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Not really as it is way to early. Seems everybody concentrates on L.
What's "L"?
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gnormal said:
What's "L"?
Sent from my D6653 using XDA Free mobile app
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Lollipop
CM12 is L ...
Don't count on them being able to restore lost drm function. I already jumped ship on sony. The unlock was worth it to me since I came from a nexus. Only issue I really have so far is a battery issue I think might pertain to only a few "testers". Also, camera was never great to me... I went n5 > iPhone 6 (just two weeks) > z3. If anything I'll pick up the iPhone 6 again and use it as a weekend phone if I really start kicking myself over the camera.

Lets discuss what we can do with our rooted V20!

Hey guys,
Its been a while since I rooted my phone (I've been using Samsung phones with locked bootloader) and it sure feels good to be back!
Now, I've been out of the loop for so long that I don't know what I should do next with my rooted V20!
I would love to have you guys come in here and discuss how we can make our V20 even better!
Thing's I've done so far.
Install Adaway
Remove Bloatware using titanium backup (is there better way to remove bloatware beside titanium backup?)
So far I removed all the TMobile apps, is there anything else I should remove that will improve the battery life?
Thanks and lets get this thread going! :good:
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leyvatron said:
Install google assistant
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Instruction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di5SlVIamjE
substratum theme engine - suggested by deeznutz1977
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=projekt.substratum
Install google assistant
I hear ya, I was on a S7 Edge and a S6 before that. It has been a while. With that being said, LG stuff can mostly go....unless you use it. It doesn't seem to be too bad, so you might be able to leave them. Download Better Battery Stats and see what is causing any wakelocks that can be prevented.
Has anyone managed to get rid of Lookout? I hate that thing and want it gone.
leyvatron said:
Install google assistant
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What are the steps for this
czerdrill said:
What are the steps for this
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di5SlVIamjE
Might want to FREEZE apps instead of uninstalling until a viable stock restore is available
Adblocking for sure. Should help improve battery life a hair by not downloading data for ads and processing them to be shown.
I smell a brick about to happen. Way too fast....How would you recover ? Be careful people.....Paperweights are not fun
I just read somewhere At&t has a locked bootloader...Figures
LuckyColdJohnson said:
I smell a brick about to happen. Way too fast....How would you recover ? Be careful people.....Paperweights are not fun
I just read somewhere At&t has a locked bootloader...Figures
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From what I've read, TWRP isn't doing proper nandroids, and there isn't a stock image to flash. At the risk of sounding "elitist," I'd recommend going slow.
At&t didn't even have the HTC 10 when I went in. The good days are dying....Root, I will miss you
LuckyColdJohnson said:
At&t didn't even have the HTC 10 when I went in. The good days are dying....Root, I will miss you
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yup, they passed on the HTC 10
I haven't gotten the phone yet (though LG store has already called me that I can get it already just been busy due to all saints day festivities) so wanted to ask, how did you root your v20? and what version is your V20?
douger1957 said:
From what I've read, TWRP isn't doing proper nandroids, and there isn't a stock image to flash. At the risk of sounding "elitist," I'd recommend going slow.
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So your saying LG doesnt have an app to reflash to stock FM? i see threads for the stock T mobile firmware. What about the nandroid issue with twrp do you know where the github repo is for our version of twrp i'll check it out.
albinoman887 said:
So your saying LG doesnt have an app to reflash to stock FM? i see threads for the stock T mobile firmware. What about the nandroid issue with twrp do you know where the github repo is for our version of twrp i'll check it out.
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I know what's in the root thread in the development section.
Is this what you're looking for?
The problems with the .tot files in a nutshell.
I'm not a dev. I can bearly muddle my way around ADB commands. I know what I know from watching the struggles in the root thread. Yeah, there's root and little else. The process doesn't seem quite ready for prime time which of course hasn't stopped the root commandos.
I CAN CONTROL THE WORLD WITH ROOT! LOL . No but really, what can't you do with root? you can do everything as long as the phone doesnt required to implement any new hardware within the phone... I like my Adaway, and greenify, and removes or freeze apps i dont like nor need, I like my pie bar for faster shortcuts (sure, the phone itself has the second screen to put up to 5 apps, but the pie bar give you a lot more options so i will have the 5 on the second screen plus the many mores in the pie bar which is a fast process too, maybe even faster than the second screen), i also like my xposed for every module i desire, AND MY BELOVED TITANIUM BACKUP! and many many more things
The one thing I hope and pray to see come from this newly acquired root is a camera mod that will allow 16MP in full 16:9. Please pull through devs! I would donate for that :highfive:
animator776 said:
The one thing I hope and pray to see come from this newly acquired root is a camera mod that will allow 16MP in full 16:9. Please pull through devs! I would donate for that :highfive:
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That's likely because the sensor isn't 16:9 shaped, it's 4:3. You have to crop the sensor to get 16:9.
leyvatron said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di5SlVIamjE[/QUOTE
Had this in ALLO... Much nicer to be able to hit the home button though. Very nice work around...
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Vexamus said:
That's likely because the sensor isn't 16:9 shaped, it's 4:3. You have to crop the sensor to get 16:9.
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Oh yeah... That must have slipped my mind

Disadvantages of unlocking bootloader?

i really want to root my phone, but i saw some cases where the camera stopped working etc. and ofcourse the (permanent?) removal of the waranty.
You lose the DRM keys and since there's no Marshmallow fw for this phone since it came with Nougat you can't downgrade to save them but unless you plan on going root-less this won't be that big of a deal.
So if you plan on having root forever no worries.
When you lose the DRM keys you lose some quality in the camera in low-light conditions.
For me root heavily outweighs the camera. I don't buy Sony phones for the camera, as long as they are working I'm fine with losing low-light quality to get root.
The camera issue got fixed so don't worry about that.
FartyParty said:
You lose the DRM keys and since there's no Marshmallow fw for this phone since it came with Nougat you can't downgrade to save them but unless you plan on going root-less this won't be that big of a deal.
So if you plan on having root forever no worries.
When you lose the DRM keys you lose some quality in the camera in low-light conditions.
For me root heavily outweighs the camera. I don't buy Sony phones for the camera, as long as they are working I'm fine with losing low-light quality to get root.
The camera issue got fixed so don't worry about that.
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You said camera was fixed? My camera is after twrp and magisk ****ed, and im not really happy with this ?
Why what's wrong with it?
HellFish23 said:
You said camera was fixed? My camera is after twrp and magisk ****ed, and im not really happy with this
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Are you getting green images? You need to flash this boot.img then TWRP and then Magisk .
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xzs/development/kernel-7-1-1-xperia-xzs-t3607488
FartyParty said:
You lose the DRM keys and since there's no Marshmallow fw for this phone since it came with Nougat you can't downgrade to save them but unless you plan on going root-less this won't be that big of a deal.
So if you plan on having root forever no worries.
When you lose the DRM keys you lose some quality in the camera in low-light conditions.
For me root heavily outweighs the camera. I don't buy Sony phones for the camera, as long as they are working I'm fine with losing low-light quality to get root.
The camera issue got fixed so don't worry about that.
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FartyParty said:
Are you getting green images? You need to flash this boot.img then TWRP and then Magisk .
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xzs/development/kernel-7-1-1-xperia-xzs-t3607488
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The latest build in my region is .191 and this kernel is for 235... I assume it won't work? Thanks for the help
HellFish23 said:
The latest build in my region is .191 and this kernel is for 235... I assume it won't work? Thanks for the help
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No it will bootloop. I would just flash .235 anyway. Thats what I did. It doesn't matter it's another region.

Is it worth upgrading N5 from android 4.4.2 to 6?

My Nexus 5 is a workhorse, still on 4.4.2 because "if it ain't broke don't fix it".
My only issue with the phone is the poor photos and videos it shoots, especially comparing to iphones and samsungs.
The question, will upgrading to android 6 improve photo quality (stock google updates, not mods).
I am sure many of you used both versions and can comment on photo and video differences.
I know there are camera API improvements, security fixes, UI changes, let's leave them aside for now and talk about perceived quality of actual photos and videos taken.
Thanks for any feedback.
Nothing much, the camera is the camera, and it is not that great.
What I read is that the newer versions of android allow direct access to the raw image, so the processing and compression can be done in apps. I saw somewhere photos side by side which showed substantial difference (but I don't know what app they were using).
The camera hardware specs are actually not that bad.
Zach21 said:
What I read is that the newer versions of android allow direct access to the raw image, so the processing and compression can be done in apps. I saw somewhere photos side by side which showed substantial difference (but I don't know what app they were using).
The camera hardware specs are actually not that bad.
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Do it. Marshmallow is great!!! But don't upgrade. Use factory image. It's better..
GopalKaul said:
Use factory image. It's better..
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Do I need to root the phone to do that?
Zach21 said:
Do I need to root the phone to do that?
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No. You will need to unlock your bootloader but, which can be relocked. You can PM me for help. Thanks!!!

really XZ became so laggy

Hi,
I have the dual sim version... since a quite long time I am suffering from unbearable lags... I am not sure, which update caused that and for now I am on the latest "41.2.A.7.35".. my symptoms are as follows:
- high RAM usage.
- phone becomes laggy so I know who is calling in couple of seconds after ringing
- switching between apps became impossible (like between GPS and phone call)
- sometimes I open it and I see the applications icons on the screen are refreshing like if I have just restarted the phone.
- i do 4 to 5 restarts per day to make the phone functioning but this is very annoying.
I found another thread in sonytalks about the same... they recommend to turn off google feed which is what I did 5 minutes ago and still don't know the result.
https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-XZ/Very-Slow-processing-what-happen/td-p/1240359/page/4
Do you have an idea, or fix, or shall I simply change the phone?
Thanks,
Same here.
Just sit down and wait for Sony release a new FW.
well i finnaly managed to get my xz working how it meant to... by unlocking bootloader....rooted.... and then flash latest ftf and andro kernel v28 and then i flashed rytekk`s battery perfomance tweak https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz/development/tweak-small-tweak-battery-memory-t3637240 and im happy that my xz really works now...definetly faster,smoother all around then stock non rooted.for me this is only solution...but im asking myself how they cant make a smooth stock non laggy device especialy in year 2017 where chips are so powerfull...and yea someone will say get an iphone but for me an iphone is like having an android phone with kernel enabled constantly to max perfomance with no downscaling LOL no wonder iphones drain so quickly...i just hope that brands will focus on software optimisations in the future and not so mutch about specs but yes at the end this is there strategy how to sell products.
anhyeuviolet said:
Same here.
Just sit down and wait for Sony release a new FW.
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seems i will switch to galaxy s8 after 4 months using xperia xz... my previous phone was galaxy s6+... just thought a change to sony will not be that bad... but i was wrong..
cocagenda2 said:
well i finnaly managed to get my xz working how it meant to... by unlocking bootloader....rooted.... and then flash latest ftf and andro kernel v28 and then i flashed rytekk`s battery perfomance tweak https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz/development/tweak-small-tweak-battery-memory-t3637240 and im happy that my xz really works now...definetly faster,smoother all around then stock non rooted.for me this is only solution...but im asking myself how they cant make a smooth stock non laggy device especialy in year 2017 where chips are so powerfull...and yea someone will say get an iphone but for me an iphone is like having an android phone with kernel enabled constantly to max perfomance with no downscaling LOL no wonder iphones drain so quickly...i just hope that brands will focus on software optimisations in the future and not so mutch about specs but yes at the end this is there strategy how to sell products.
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the problem is that i am not into rooting phones... as u said.. it is really surprising that a flag ship phone is such laggy like that....
a_k_gano said:
seems i will switch to galaxy s8 after 4 months using xperia xz... my previous phone was galaxy s6+... just thought a change to sony will not be that bad... but i was wrong..
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Sad to hear it. I changed from Honor 6X.
Honor is good with their EMUI, and it also has the best fingerprint sensor that I ever used.
But I need a water proof device, so I picked XZ.
Not sure it is a good idea
cocagenda2 said:
well i finnaly managed to get my xz working how it meant to... by unlocking bootloader....rooted.... and then flash latest ftf and andro kernel v28 and then i flashed rytekk`s battery perfomance tweak https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz/development/tweak-small-tweak-battery-memory-t3637240 and im happy that my xz really works now...definetly faster,smoother all around then stock non rooted.for me this is only solution...but im asking myself how they cant make a smooth stock non laggy device especialy in year 2017 where chips are so powerfull...and yea someone will say get an iphone but for me an iphone is like having an android phone with kernel enabled constantly to max perfomance with no downscaling LOL no wonder iphones drain so quickly...i just hope that brands will focus on software optimisations in the future and not so mutch about specs but yes at the end this is there strategy how to sell products.
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Good to hear that. So we can fix or wait for SONY fix it. I have no plan to root or flash any custom FW
Wonder why SONY always have good hardware but OS/Software is a true sucker.
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Sad to hear it. I changed from Honor 6X.
Honor is good with their EMUI, and it also has the best fingerprint sensor that I ever used.
But I need a water proof device, so I picked XZ.
Not sure it is a good idea
Good to hear that. So we can fix or wait for SONY fix it. I have no plan to root or flash any custom FW
Wonder why SONY always have good hardware but OS/Software is a true sucker.
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i think they dont want to push chips at max just to be on safe side...thats why maybe sony baterries and as a whole device can last mutch longer then Samsung devices...and did u ever heard about exploding Sony device?i still didnt...but if i pay 700e for a device witch is flagship i expect to act like one...why put a sd820 in a device when u dont even use full potencial...lamers...
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i think they dont want to push chips at max just to be on safe side...thats why maybe sony baterries and as a whole device can last mutch longer then Samsung devices...and did u ever heard about exploding Sony device?i still didnt...but if i pay 700e for a device witch is flagship i expect to act like one...why put a sd820 in a device when u dont even use full potencial...lamers...
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Nah ... I just want my device running as fast as it can be.
BTW, removed Messenger Lite and FB Lite, RAM dropped from 2.5GB to 1.8 GB.
I think I should say bye to FB app. :cyclops:
seems turning off google feed helped so far... lower ram usage and better performance
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seems turning off google feed helped so far... lower ram usage and better performance
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well... after one day of testing... i wouldnt say turning off google feed and google now helped that much... it just delays the RAM filling... so the performance degradation will just be shifted and it happens
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well... after one day of testing... i wouldnt say turning off google feed and google now helped that much... it just delays the RAM filling... so the performance degradation will just be shifted and it happens
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Im alergic to lag and what ur experiencig made me so mad that i had to unlock booloader and find solution to it...but as i told before this is not official solution...Sony really needs to consider about that....why we have to root the device to make it usable for our terms....Im looking in to Nokias these days and hope they gonna gonna be good...and my last Sony phone is definetly XZ .Im not looking froward to it anymore.
Try disabling the app Movie Creator and see if that helps. That was the cause in my XZ.
Rille_lkp said:
Try disabling the app Movie Creator and see if that helps. That was the cause in my XZ.
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Just did that now... i will try and let u know
cocagenda2 said:
Im alergic to lag and what ur experiencig made me so mad that i had to unlock booloader and find solution to it...but as i told before this is not official solution...Sony really needs to consider about that....why we have to root the device to make it usable for our terms....Im looking in to Nokias these days and hope they gonna gonna be good...and my last Sony phone is definetly XZ .Im not looking froward to it anymore.
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same like me... this is my last sony phone ever.... the phone should serve me... not me to serve the phone by disabling half of my apps aiming for a stable performance... this should not be the case
In my case, it seems it was the the latest update of Movie Creator doing something and not related to the firmware itself.
Having the same issue with my XZ Dual. Laggs are driving me nuts all the time, rebooting doesn't help for long. I have also noticed that my phone usually have loadavg at least as high as 18 all the time (do cat /proc/loadavg in terminal). Pretty overloaded.
The quickest possible way to find our who is slowing device should be running ps or top in termnal. But unfortunatelly they have very limited output without root access. And getting root is such a pain for this device.
I've noticed that my XZ started to lag after the July security updates. Maybe it has something to do with that?
Mine was lagging since at least June. Did a full wipe (i'm on stock), lags returns after reinstalling apps.
had the same issue , disable the movie making app that came with the phone ,
last post here : https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-XZ/XZ-Lagging-a-lot/td-p/1227362/page/8
divanikus said:
Having the same issue with my XZ Dual. Laggs are driving me nuts all the time, rebooting doesn't help for long. I have also noticed that my phone usually have loadavg at least as high as 18 all the time (do cat /proc/loadavg in terminal). Pretty overloaded.
The quickest possible way to find our who is slowing device should be running ps or top in termnal. But unfortunatelly they have very limited output without root access. And getting root is such a pain for this device.
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well rooting this device its not even close to pain ...i unlocked also Z5 before without a single problem and also backed up DRM keys and restored also without problem..the same way is for our XZ everything is clear and tested before...i never unlock booloader if there is not no option to lock it back...i check first...but i dont advise u to do that if u dont have experience with adb and flashtool...wish i would not do all of that stuff for my xz but i had to cuz its the only way to get it working smoothly.

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