Hi.I wanna flash cm 12 to z3.But i have worries.Do sony apps work on cm12?And as u know, we haven't Drm keys on cm12.What about camera's quality?Thank u guys.
LeonidasTurk said:
Hi.I wanna flash cm 12 to z3.But i have worries.Do sony apps work on cm12?And as u know, we haven't Drm keys on cm12.What about camera's quality?Thank u guys.
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Search and see other posts before asking same questions as many before you.
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Search and see other posts before asking same questions as many before you.
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Can you give me a link for similar posts?I can't find my question.
No, they don't work, for now
I suggest you to wait some time, maybe they will add them when there will be a stable version.
CM12 / DRM
My opinion:
- CM12 is too fresh and still partially buggy. You can play with that, but thats IMHO all. Not considered production.
- Unless somebody makes serious effort, forget about official Sony apps. Some are bound to DRM lost in process of unlocking bootloader.
- Camera will work as good as good is the hardware of it. Picture enhancement provided by software is Sony Stock ROM specific and bound to DRM. I have seen some guys working on DRM removal.
- There may be other apps with postprocessing to compensate for Sony postprocessing (low light etc.).
ondrejvaroscak said:
My opinion:
- CM12 is too fresh and still partially buggy. You can play with that, but thats IMHO all. Not considered production.
- Unless somebody makes serious effort, forget about official Sony apps. Some are bound to DRM lost in process of unlocking bootloader.
- Camera will work as good as good is the hardware of it. Picture enhancement provided by software is Sony Stock ROM specific and bound to DRM. I have seen some guys working on DRM removal.
- There may be other apps with postprocessing to compensate for Sony postprocessing (low light etc.).
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I will wait for "Serious effort".Is there any thread about this?
LeonidasTurk said:
I will wait for "Serious effort".Is there any thread about this?
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Not really as it is way to early. Seems everybody concentrates on L.
What's "L"?
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What's "L"?
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Lollipop
CM12 is L ...
Don't count on them being able to restore lost drm function. I already jumped ship on sony. The unlock was worth it to me since I came from a nexus. Only issue I really have so far is a battery issue I think might pertain to only a few "testers". Also, camera was never great to me... I went n5 > iPhone 6 (just two weeks) > z3. If anything I'll pick up the iPhone 6 again and use it as a weekend phone if I really start kicking myself over the camera.
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Hi everyone. I finally decided to buy a new phone after ages (I have Xperia V )
My definite choice was Nexus 6P, but now I'm also looking into Z5.
I don't care about price.
My only question is Does unlocking bootloader on Z5 affect camera quality?
According to Sony's Official Bootloader Unlock Website :
for instance Xperia Z3, the removal of DRM security keys may affect advanced camera functionality. For example, noise reduction algorithms might be removed, and performance when taking photos in low-light conditions might be affected. The secure user data partition may also become inaccessible
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If yes, I'll stick with 6P
Yes. Stick with the nexus if you want custom rom and lots of development
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Yes. Stick with the nexus if you want custom rom and lots of development
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Damn Sony!
I can live my life with stock roms, but not without unlocked bootloader and root
To be fair, coming from a Nexus 5, it's not actually bothered me not having root
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To be fair, coming from a Nexus 5, it's not actually bothered me not having root
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i want root just for adaway
gwiqu said:
i want root just for adaway
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Have you tried Adguard? No root needed.
Hello, anyone know how to root?
I'm also interested
Great phone btw...best design ever, better then the iphone 6!
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I'm also interested
Great phone btw...best design ever, better then the iphone 6!
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OT: yes very good design the Lime Gold
Tried Kingroot, it didn't work.
By the way, the more people run Kingroot from an Xperia XA, the more they'll try to find a root strategy (it says so on the app, and they're obviously keeping track, so far 114 have tried from the Xperia F3116).
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Tried Kingroot, it didn't work.
By the way, the more people run Kingroot from an Xperia XA, the more they'll try to find a root strategy (it says so on the app, and they're obviously keeping track, so far 114 have tried from the Xperia F3116).
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If the x range uses drm-verity which I think all late 2015 onwards Xperia devices onwards do now then it'll be like the z5 range root on unlocked Bootloader only I think. If this is the only way to get root if it'll be even possible on the xa and other x devices looks like I'm going back to stock when i get mine, my M2 is rooted and heavily modified always has been but I refuse to use kingroot.
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If the x range uses drm-verity which I think all late 2015 onwards Xperia devices onwards do now then it'll be like the z5 range root on unlocked Bootloader only I think. If this is the only way to get root if it'll be even possible on the xa and other x devices looks like I'm going back to stock when i get mine, my M2 is rooted and heavily modified always has been but I refuse to use kingroot.
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Kingroot can be removed and replaced by SuperSU you know, after rooting. At least that's what I did on Xperia Z3 Compact. I never left stock by the way, and kept bootloader intact. Now it remains to be seen if Kingroot or anyone will ever be able to root the XA safely at all.
Tobiasbiegger said:
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Great phone btw...best design ever, better then the iphone 6!
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I want to know too! I need to figure out a way to fix the abysmal battery life of this thing.
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I want to know too! I need to figure out a way to fix the abysmal battery life of this thing.
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why want root for battery ? flash the new update to see what if the battery its fixed...
the problem for me its when bluetooth is On ...if i turn off no battery drain problem ...
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why want root for battery ? flash the new update to see what if the battery its fixed...
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It isn't. Not even a little.
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It isn't. Not even a little.
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Yes it is according to some the wifi bug has been fixed some are getting 4hrs sot time with ease Bluetooth may have the same problem according to some also depends on how the device is set up try doing either a factory reset or software repair via Sony pcc you need to start with the latest firmware on a totally clean install. Root is probably gonna be a while as someone needs to build kernel+recovery if drm-verity is in use it'll be unlocked Bootloader root only x range not supported by kingroot either for now
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Yes it is according to some the wifi bug has been fixed some are getting 4hrs sot time with ease Bluetooth may have the same problem according to some also depends on how the device is set up try doing either a factory reset or software repair via Sony pcc you need to start with the latest firmware on a totally clean install.
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And I'm telling you that didn't fix my problem. I realize now that my use of it was ambiguous. The problem was not remedied by the software update which they provided is what I should have said.
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And I'm telling you that didn't fix my problem. I realize now that my use of it was ambiguous. The problem was not remedied by the software update which they provided is what I should have said.
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Have you even tried any of the above and gave it time to settle down and go through a few cycles. Try posting on the xa Sony support forum the problems/bugs in the thread they have going on, they were quick enough to fix the wifi bug and the more people that report back there with the problems the faster they'll get it sorted.
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Have you even tried any of the above and gave it time to settle down and go through a few cycles.
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Yes. As I said, it did not work. I tried it. A few cycles at this point means 1 day.
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Yes. As I said, it did not work. I tried it. A few cycles at this point means 1 day.
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That I find very hard to believe only trying to help guess you've just come to moan I'll save my knowledge and help for someone who wants it without a attitude
I do appreciate the attempts at help. I didn't come to moan, I came to ask for a root, which as you and others pointed out isn't ready yet. You're welcome to believe what you want about the power issue.
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I do appreciate the attempts at help. I didn't come to moan, I came to ask for a root, which as you and others pointed out isn't ready yet. You're welcome to believe what you want about the power issue.
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Sorry but plenty of people are far too quick to just come on here like we all know the answers to everything and thinking they know better you'd be surprised how many people will swear they have tried everything, I know from personal experience that a factory reset and or a software repair/ftf flash via flashtool wiping the phone can do, most people try and do it without totally wiping the data it can also take upto a week for a device to settle down after updates ect. Sony know about the major bugs and are working on fixes that I know and sony are better than most other oem's regarding updates and device su, root will take a little while I think it is just to new yet try getting other x/xa owners emailing kingroot support for device support not that I'd use it myself, i hope I can help move things on a bit when I get mine next week
On the plus side it's supposedly really easy to unlock the bootloader (it's a setting in the developer options)
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On the plus side it's supposedly really easy to unlock the bootloader (it's a setting in the developer options)
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No that only makes it possible to unlock the bootloader you still have to do it manually after that. Should not be that much work though.
Is there any info,do we get new camera in Nougat,like a XZ and XP with full manual controls?
while it is mentioned in the latest video posted by sony xperia team, i don't really think it is going to be included for z5 (although our devices are equipped with the same sensor). At least, there's no announcement or indication that it is going to be included.
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while it is mentioned in the latest video posted by sony xperia team, i don't really think it is going to be included for z5 (although our devices are equipped with the same sensor). At least, there's no announcement or indication that it is going to be included.
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I saw that video and anouncement on Sony global and I am afraid that you in right.We can only hope so that wouldnt be like this cause same camera sensor,but I thinks that chances is minimal.
Why we get a bunch of threads like this -__-
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Why would you think it is not going to be included? Based on what?
We don't know. Chances are no one will know. But so far other devices that got the update also got these features. There are no reason to think they're not going to be included.
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Why would you think it is not going to be included? Based on what?
We don't know. Chances are no one will know. But so far other devices that got the update also got these features. There are no reason to think they're not going to be included.
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Here - manual camera controls specifically for X performance:
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2016/12...t-rollout-for-xperia-xz-xperia-x-performance/
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Here - manual camera controls specifically for X performance:
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2016/12...t-rollout-for-xperia-xz-xperia-x-performance/
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What about this?
Xperia X also get manual controls in Beta Nougat.Only for Z5 is unknown situation,but I think that we dont get that in update.
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Xperia X also get manual controls in Beta Nougat.Only for Z5 is unknown situation,but I think that we dont get that in update.
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I think we will get this feature, because since the Z5 came out we wanted this also z5 has the same sensor as X and XZ
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no we wont sony hates us (z5)
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no we wont sony hates us (z5)
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To encourage us to move onto the next product.
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They must to prolong X series shipment.For that reason I am afraid we wont get that.Even if we dont get that its not a huge de except for low light/night photos.These option that we have now is enough for good daylight photography(exposure,ISO,focus mode,WB)
as much as i want it, yea, it is not provided in the nougat update
Already got the manual controls on the z5 https://youtu.be/UQjl-qamO9g no need to get them from sony lol
Hi,
I have the dual sim version... since a quite long time I am suffering from unbearable lags... I am not sure, which update caused that and for now I am on the latest "41.2.A.7.35".. my symptoms are as follows:
- high RAM usage.
- phone becomes laggy so I know who is calling in couple of seconds after ringing
- switching between apps became impossible (like between GPS and phone call)
- sometimes I open it and I see the applications icons on the screen are refreshing like if I have just restarted the phone.
- i do 4 to 5 restarts per day to make the phone functioning but this is very annoying.
I found another thread in sonytalks about the same... they recommend to turn off google feed which is what I did 5 minutes ago and still don't know the result.
https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-XZ/Very-Slow-processing-what-happen/td-p/1240359/page/4
Do you have an idea, or fix, or shall I simply change the phone?
Thanks,
Same here.
Just sit down and wait for Sony release a new FW.
well i finnaly managed to get my xz working how it meant to... by unlocking bootloader....rooted.... and then flash latest ftf and andro kernel v28 and then i flashed rytekk`s battery perfomance tweak https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz/development/tweak-small-tweak-battery-memory-t3637240 and im happy that my xz really works now...definetly faster,smoother all around then stock non rooted.for me this is only solution...but im asking myself how they cant make a smooth stock non laggy device especialy in year 2017 where chips are so powerfull...and yea someone will say get an iphone but for me an iphone is like having an android phone with kernel enabled constantly to max perfomance with no downscaling LOL no wonder iphones drain so quickly...i just hope that brands will focus on software optimisations in the future and not so mutch about specs but yes at the end this is there strategy how to sell products.
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Same here.
Just sit down and wait for Sony release a new FW.
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seems i will switch to galaxy s8 after 4 months using xperia xz... my previous phone was galaxy s6+... just thought a change to sony will not be that bad... but i was wrong..
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well i finnaly managed to get my xz working how it meant to... by unlocking bootloader....rooted.... and then flash latest ftf and andro kernel v28 and then i flashed rytekk`s battery perfomance tweak https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz/development/tweak-small-tweak-battery-memory-t3637240 and im happy that my xz really works now...definetly faster,smoother all around then stock non rooted.for me this is only solution...but im asking myself how they cant make a smooth stock non laggy device especialy in year 2017 where chips are so powerfull...and yea someone will say get an iphone but for me an iphone is like having an android phone with kernel enabled constantly to max perfomance with no downscaling LOL no wonder iphones drain so quickly...i just hope that brands will focus on software optimisations in the future and not so mutch about specs but yes at the end this is there strategy how to sell products.
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the problem is that i am not into rooting phones... as u said.. it is really surprising that a flag ship phone is such laggy like that....
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seems i will switch to galaxy s8 after 4 months using xperia xz... my previous phone was galaxy s6+... just thought a change to sony will not be that bad... but i was wrong..
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Sad to hear it. I changed from Honor 6X.
Honor is good with their EMUI, and it also has the best fingerprint sensor that I ever used.
But I need a water proof device, so I picked XZ.
Not sure it is a good idea
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well i finnaly managed to get my xz working how it meant to... by unlocking bootloader....rooted.... and then flash latest ftf and andro kernel v28 and then i flashed rytekk`s battery perfomance tweak https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz/development/tweak-small-tweak-battery-memory-t3637240 and im happy that my xz really works now...definetly faster,smoother all around then stock non rooted.for me this is only solution...but im asking myself how they cant make a smooth stock non laggy device especialy in year 2017 where chips are so powerfull...and yea someone will say get an iphone but for me an iphone is like having an android phone with kernel enabled constantly to max perfomance with no downscaling LOL no wonder iphones drain so quickly...i just hope that brands will focus on software optimisations in the future and not so mutch about specs but yes at the end this is there strategy how to sell products.
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Good to hear that. So we can fix or wait for SONY fix it. I have no plan to root or flash any custom FW
Wonder why SONY always have good hardware but OS/Software is a true sucker.
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Sad to hear it. I changed from Honor 6X.
Honor is good with their EMUI, and it also has the best fingerprint sensor that I ever used.
But I need a water proof device, so I picked XZ.
Not sure it is a good idea
Good to hear that. So we can fix or wait for SONY fix it. I have no plan to root or flash any custom FW
Wonder why SONY always have good hardware but OS/Software is a true sucker.
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i think they dont want to push chips at max just to be on safe side...thats why maybe sony baterries and as a whole device can last mutch longer then Samsung devices...and did u ever heard about exploding Sony device?i still didnt...but if i pay 700e for a device witch is flagship i expect to act like one...why put a sd820 in a device when u dont even use full potencial...lamers...
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i think they dont want to push chips at max just to be on safe side...thats why maybe sony baterries and as a whole device can last mutch longer then Samsung devices...and did u ever heard about exploding Sony device?i still didnt...but if i pay 700e for a device witch is flagship i expect to act like one...why put a sd820 in a device when u dont even use full potencial...lamers...
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Nah ... I just want my device running as fast as it can be.
BTW, removed Messenger Lite and FB Lite, RAM dropped from 2.5GB to 1.8 GB.
I think I should say bye to FB app. :cyclops:
seems turning off google feed helped so far... lower ram usage and better performance
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seems turning off google feed helped so far... lower ram usage and better performance
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well... after one day of testing... i wouldnt say turning off google feed and google now helped that much... it just delays the RAM filling... so the performance degradation will just be shifted and it happens
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well... after one day of testing... i wouldnt say turning off google feed and google now helped that much... it just delays the RAM filling... so the performance degradation will just be shifted and it happens
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Im alergic to lag and what ur experiencig made me so mad that i had to unlock booloader and find solution to it...but as i told before this is not official solution...Sony really needs to consider about that....why we have to root the device to make it usable for our terms....Im looking in to Nokias these days and hope they gonna gonna be good...and my last Sony phone is definetly XZ .Im not looking froward to it anymore.
Try disabling the app Movie Creator and see if that helps. That was the cause in my XZ.
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Try disabling the app Movie Creator and see if that helps. That was the cause in my XZ.
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Just did that now... i will try and let u know
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Im alergic to lag and what ur experiencig made me so mad that i had to unlock booloader and find solution to it...but as i told before this is not official solution...Sony really needs to consider about that....why we have to root the device to make it usable for our terms....Im looking in to Nokias these days and hope they gonna gonna be good...and my last Sony phone is definetly XZ .Im not looking froward to it anymore.
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same like me... this is my last sony phone ever.... the phone should serve me... not me to serve the phone by disabling half of my apps aiming for a stable performance... this should not be the case
In my case, it seems it was the the latest update of Movie Creator doing something and not related to the firmware itself.
Having the same issue with my XZ Dual. Laggs are driving me nuts all the time, rebooting doesn't help for long. I have also noticed that my phone usually have loadavg at least as high as 18 all the time (do cat /proc/loadavg in terminal). Pretty overloaded.
The quickest possible way to find our who is slowing device should be running ps or top in termnal. But unfortunatelly they have very limited output without root access. And getting root is such a pain for this device.
I've noticed that my XZ started to lag after the July security updates. Maybe it has something to do with that?
Mine was lagging since at least June. Did a full wipe (i'm on stock), lags returns after reinstalling apps.
had the same issue , disable the movie making app that came with the phone ,
last post here : https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-XZ/XZ-Lagging-a-lot/td-p/1227362/page/8
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Having the same issue with my XZ Dual. Laggs are driving me nuts all the time, rebooting doesn't help for long. I have also noticed that my phone usually have loadavg at least as high as 18 all the time (do cat /proc/loadavg in terminal). Pretty overloaded.
The quickest possible way to find our who is slowing device should be running ps or top in termnal. But unfortunatelly they have very limited output without root access. And getting root is such a pain for this device.
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well rooting this device its not even close to pain ...i unlocked also Z5 before without a single problem and also backed up DRM keys and restored also without problem..the same way is for our XZ everything is clear and tested before...i never unlock booloader if there is not no option to lock it back...i check first...but i dont advise u to do that if u dont have experience with adb and flashtool...wish i would not do all of that stuff for my xz but i had to cuz its the only way to get it working smoothly.
Okay so i knw if you need to root your XZP you need XperiFIX , But you have to pay 20Eu for that. i dunno where you guys live but from my country currency that's a hecking lot. i Wonder if there is a easy and a free way to do the root on oreos newest security patch with DRM keys. Thank you
20 EUR is a heck lot, but paying 750 EUR for a phone is not. Probably you live in a villa and drive a mercedes s klasse?
Sorry for trolling but I'm still not convinced to root. What do I gain? A poor xz2 camera port who brings minor improvements to low light and... and nothing out there.
Snappatch is eye candy but i will root for one of these 3 reasons: 120hz display, or fullhd 960, or 4k hdr recording.
Stock rom is the best right now. I have disabled all bkoatware, even youtube, facebook and Chrome. Now I'm using youtube vanced and opera browser both with adds blocking and the phone is super fast.
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20 EUR is a heck lot, but paying 750 EUR for a phone is not. Probably you live in a villa and drive a mercedes s klasse?
Sorry for trolling but I'm still not convinced to root. What do I gain? A poor xz2 camera port who brings minor improvements to low light and... and nothing out there.
Snappatch is eye candy but i will root for one of these 3 reasons: 120hz display, or fullhd 960, or 4k hdr recording.
Stock rom is the best right now. I have disabled all bkoatware, even youtube, facebook and Chrome. Now I'm using youtube vanced and opera browser both with adds blocking and the phone is super fast.
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How did u do that (disabling all bloatware)
I want to do same xD
I've said disabled, not removed. Just disable the app you wish from settings apps, show system apps etc
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Okay so i knw if you need to root your XZP you need XperiFIX , But you have to pay 20Eu for that. i dunno where you guys live but from my country currency that's a hecking lot. i Wonder if there is a easy and a free way to do the root on oreos newest security patch with DRM keys. Thank you
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Use janjan thread.thats all.
Xz2 camera port have a much diffrence in photo quality with stock specially in lowlight and if you use turbo rom wich already included drm fix you gonna get 4k screen wich is easily kills 1080p man you gonna really feel a big change.
Actually you don't need to pay first that wasn't his full works coz there was some people who helped to find the drmfix and twrp and androplus kernel are free and you can find the drmpatch anywhere
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Okay so i knw if you need to root your XZP you need XperiFIX , But you have to pay 20Eu for that. i dunno where you guys live but from my country currency that's a hecking lot. i Wonder if there is a easy and a free way to do the root on oreos newest security patch with DRM keys. Thank you
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Everything you want to do is available, but you have to be willing to use ADB and Fastboot to flash files. You don't "do root on Oreo's newest security patch." If you want to begin modding your phone then it's important to know what you are doing first.
To do anything you need to unlock your bootloader. This will completely remove the partition with your DRM keys (your camera won't work and you'll need a patch) and you can never restore them. Rooting and using a DRM patch simply 'fools' the system into thinking you have them. However, unlike most other Android phones, with so little development being done for this phone, if you like keeping your security updated, I'd strongly recommend not unlocking your bootloader. You can also never take another OTA update, so you'll need to become comfortable with either using one or two ROMs you can find forever and hope they're updated, or gather all the pieces and then install new stock firmware every time you want to update your system. And, you'll still need to hope someone updates a kernel that allows you to DRM patch your phone for each OS update.
However, if you do, then you can flash a custom recovery with Fastboot and from there on, pretty much do all your flashing from it.
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Use janjan thread.thats all.
Xz2 camera port have a much diffrence in photo quality with stock specially in lowlight and if you use turbo rom wich already included drm fix you gonna get 4k screen wich is easily kills 1080p man you gonna really feel a big change.
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Is there a way to get that 4K Res without rooting? Is it same as abd method?