7.1.1 - Samsung Galaxy S8+ Questions & Answers

Any idea why Samsung still hasn't released this yet.. My old phone has been on this for months already. Pretty crazy Samsung still fails at updates.
On a side note I might have a Exynos variant for sell lol.

Samsung is probably saving 7.1.1 for the Note 8.

Lol... how many Samsung phones have you had in the past? If you know the history then no one should be expecting any eta on an update from sammy...especially carrier specific models

note 8 ? nah samsung s9 maybe if you lucky .

Might be here the next solar eclipse!

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So no dev other than TW in the Exynos variant and **** update cycles from Samsung. Noted.
If anyone wants a mint Midnight Black G955F with a leather back let me know.

Hello,
Another question please, can you tell us what is found on the version android 7.1.1 and that is not found on android 7.0, on the S8 of course?
Thank you.

Velrix said:
So no dev other than TW in the Exynos variant and **** update cycles from Samsung. Noted.
If anyone wants a mint Midnight Black G955F with a leather back let me know.
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So this was your first samsung phone...noted

mlock420 said:
So this was your first samsung phone...noted
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Actually I was all Samsung from the Galaxy S, S4G, S3, Note3 but left after that. That was good times for development for Samsung back then. Everyone says the Exynos has better development since its not as locked down, however it doesn't seem to be the case.

Velrix said:
Actually I was all Samsung from the Galaxy S, S4G, S3, Note3 but left after that. That was good times for development for Samsung back then. Everyone says the Exynos has better development since its not as locked down, however it doesn't seem to be the case.
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Do some extensive research bro...you don't wanna waste your money like that homie ?'s too expensive to be unsatisfied

jidamo said:
Hello,
Another question please, can you tell us what is found on the version android 7.1.1 and that is not found on android 7.0, on the S8 of course?
Thank you.
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Battery enhancements and force touch features baked in when using certain launchers, Gifs directly in certain messaging apps, Fingerprint swipe baked in, Daydream VR, other Nexus/Pixel features which can be easily installed as long as the base OS is matching.

Velrix said:
Battery enhancements and force touch features baked in when using certain launchers, Gifs directly in certain messaging apps, Fingerprint swipe baked in, Daydream VR, other Nexus/Pixel features which can be easily installed as long as the base OS is matching.
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Ah, so what you're saying is that they already have an ETA because it's already been stated that Daydream will be coming in the summer. Cool.

Velrix said:
Battery enhancements and force touch features baked in when using certain launchers, Gifs directly in certain messaging apps, Fingerprint swipe baked in, Daydream VR, other Nexus/Pixel features which can be easily installed as long as the base OS is matching.
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So nothing worth having then?
Battery is already over 8 hours SOT on QHD+, force touch is useless as the only force touch a S8 can use is the home button area OR if you are a Jedi, GIFs? seriously? Just use Gboard, Daydream VR? Compared to gearvr it's rubbish, and Nexus Pixel features like what? Bugs and crashes? No thanks.

coming from a nexus 6 with 7.1.1 i can say in my experience this phone even unrooted is BETTER in every way. i truly saw no difference what so ever between 7.0 and 7.1.1

Jonathan-H said:
So nothing worth having then?
Battery is already over 8 hours SOT on QHD+, force touch is useless as the only force touch a S8 can use is the home button area OR if you are a Jedi, GIFs? seriously? Just use Gboard, Daydream VR? Compared to gearvr it's rubbish, and Nexus Pixel features like what? Bugs and crashes? No thanks.
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Eh that SOT would only be with light usage, low screen brightness and on WiFI. Other users time will vary for one. I avg around 5.5-6 depending on my usage however I can definitely eat it up faster so anything extra is always nice. Any device can support the "force touch" type features with long press to enable extra options. For instance launching a new tab in chrome straight from your home screen.
I use Gboard the fact is it's baked in other apps that don't support it. Google messenger, Hangouts, Allo, ect.
Daydream is about as ****ty as any mobile VR option they all suck compared to PC but the fact is options are always nice and not being locked to one vendor.
If you honestly think the Pixel is a buggy device I can't honestly say much more to you on that. You would have honestly never had to use one to come to that conclusion. The S8 is buggy, **** force closes, half the apps can't use the screen, it's resolution is just not widely adopted yet and won't be for years. I constantly touch the side of the screen while trying to press something on the other side with one hand, the Bluetooth can be buggy sometimes just dropping my car and headset only to reconnect instantly or sometimes not at all. The heartbeat monitor is hit or miss, it doesn't always work for me. There is plenty of flaws then again it's a Samsung not much different than anything else they release.

The Pixel is buggy, it has one of the highest return rates, and customer complaint rates for any current phone at a certain reseller in the UK (which you can take my word for or not, dont care).
So why doesnt Samsung use 7.1.x? Its also buggy, and largely pointless over 7.0. The android that runs on many OEM devices isnt AOSP, it often contains fixes and improvements you wont find on the Nexus/pixel, ones the OEM has had to create themselves. Sometimes these just happen to be similar to the ones that Google implement on later android versions. Why if the OEM has fixed a thing would they bother then updating to a later Android version that doesnt offer anything more, but may contain new bugs?
Contrary to popular belief Google isnt always right, its not perfect and sometimes its programming is frankly very questionable.

ChrisM75 said:
The Pixel is buggy, it has one of the highest return rates, and customer complaint rates for any current phone at a certain reseller in the UK (which you can take my word for or not, dont care).
So why doesnt Samsung use 7.1.x? Its also buggy, and largely pointless over 7.0. The android that runs on many OEM devices isnt AOSP, it often contains fixes and improvements you wont find on the Nexus/pixel, ones the OEM has had to create themselves. Sometimes these just happen to be similar to the ones that Google implement on later android versions. Why if the OEM has fixed a thing would they bother then updating to a later Android version that doesnt offer anything more, but may contain new bugs?
Contrary to popular belief Google isnt always right, its not perfect and sometimes its programming is frankly very questionable.
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Yup, that has been my experience & observations too when I used to own Google Nexus phones (Nexus 5 & 5X) alongside my Samsung flagships.
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ChrisM75 said:
The Pixel is buggy, it has one of the highest return rates, and customer complaint rates for any current phone at a certain reseller in the UK (which you can take my word for or not, dont care).
So why doesnt Samsung use 7.1.x? Its also buggy, and largely pointless over 7.0. The android that runs on many OEM devices isnt AOSP, it often contains fixes and improvements you wont find on the Nexus/pixel, ones the OEM has had to create themselves. Sometimes these just happen to be similar to the ones that Google implement on later android versions. Why if the OEM has fixed a thing would they bother then updating to a later Android version that doesnt offer anything more, but may contain new bugs?
Contrary to popular belief Google isnt always right, its not perfect and sometimes its programming is frankly very questionable.
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You really think Sammy's ancient 7.0(freaking HMP) worst/slowest skin aka lagwiz will beat latest google's 7.x.x (EAS). That's a funny story bro.

Jonathan-H said:
So nothing worth having then?
Battery is already over 8 hours SOT on QHD+, force touch is useless as the only force touch a S8 can use is the home button area OR if you are a Jedi, GIFs? seriously? Just use Gboard, Daydream VR? Compared to gearvr it's rubbish, and Nexus Pixel features like what? Bugs and crashes? No thanks.
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Force touch worked on my s5

Related

Are you still happy with your Nexus-S ?

I have to say I am still pretty happy with my Nexus-S 4G. I am loving the stock/vanilla Android OS, after trying many different ROM's and launchers, I always seem to go back to the "pure" launcher and style. I do have the Oxygen ROM which is the base Android OS just tweaked and stripped to be very fast with good battery life.
I was tempted to get the Sprint Galaxy S2, while it is a great phone, probably the best Android device for sale right now, it just did not seem night and day radically better than my Nexus-S. The S II still runs Gingerbread and looks so similar to my Nexus I don't see the need to get that phone right now. And my Nexus is not slow by any means. I am eagerly waiting for the reveal of the next Nexus-Three device with "Ice Cream", that would be the first to tempt me away, or at least get Ice Cream running stock on my Nexus-S.
If there is any beef with this phone, it is the radio/network, and Sprint's poor 3G service lately. Hopefully we get good news next month when the CEO of Sprint discusses the future network plans on Oct 7th.
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Yeah I'm not complaining at all about it. I was running Pete's bb rom before this and his rooted stock before that. Now, I'm running miui. I thought, coming from the preference of vanilla ui, that who in the hell would want a rom that's a cross bastardized version of ios and touchwiz? I am/was under the thought that ios was very limited on what could be done with it.
Miui is really starting to grow on me. I'm almost ashamed to admit I'm getting the itch to get a new phone after my ns4g and it being the iPhone. I definitely want the nexus 3 too but those phones will probably be released very close to each other.
Unfortunately, I will have to deal with the looks and comments from my old lady, whenever I get a new phone. I will not give my ns4g to her because I see how she treats phones. I suppose one thing that would keep her quiet is if I got her an iPhone too. About 1500 for two new phones, full price, not eligible for upgrades yet. Sigh, it's only money right?
Yes.
10chars?
I plan to run this phone til the wheels come off.
Sent from the future to put right what once went wrong.
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I plan to run this phone til the wheels come off.
Sent from the future to put right what once went wrong.
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+1 x 10 = hell yeaaaaa.
I came from the g2x and can never be happier with this ns4g
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nexus s is my first smartphone and i would not try another the next time ...
FlatEric0074 said:
nexus s is my first smartphone and i would not try another the next time ...
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Nexus s is my first REAL smartphone
I've had or used extensively a mt3g, epic 4g, evo 4g, evo shift 4g, Droid x, huawei ascend 2 and an iPhone 3gs and of those I like my nexus the best. However, my mother in law just got a sensation 4g and if I'm honest, I think I'd enjoy that better.
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So I take it you prefer android over iPhone? Care to share your reasons for liking one and not liking the other?
oscarthegrouch said:
So I take it you prefer android over iPhone? Care to share your reasons for liking one and not liking the other?
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Open source. Multitasking. Variety. Google. Etc.
Edit: scratch that. Nexus S 4G.
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IMO, Nexus S is a piece of outdated hardware, since day 1, when it was release last year December 2010, at that very same time its brothers/cousins have been having way much better spec than it does.
the pure Android experience was not as fun as promised by the Nexus One hyped owners promised
So my next device will most definitely not be Nexus 3, which is yet another outdated antique, its SGS2 brothers/cousins has waaaaaaaaay better hardware than it does.
and we all know by now that support across Samsung devices is thriving like CM7 and all the countless of customized kernels and mods that you can find
The 2nd reason why i picked Nexus S, was simply because it was unlocked and works on AWS signal
there was nothing at the time, else i'd have most likely gone for a better phone
the lack of the SD slot is a major drawback, can't do things as i used to, i'm not having fun as i used to, all because of the missing space, the phone is just a phone right now, can't enjoy it as it ran out of space all the time, no matter how much stuff i send up to the clouds, there is never enough space for me
clouds is not cheap either if you don't have an unlimited internet for the phone
and the 3G speed is not that great to send up and down 500 meg of data whenever you feel like playing another game, or watching another movie
i'm sure this phone is more than enough or even great for most people, but i'm not most people
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So I take it you prefer android over iPhone? Care to share your reasons for liking one and not liking the other?
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I personally prefer android because of the ease of customization that can be done even without rooting. iOS devices are great, don't get me wrong. I'm not an iHater, but for me and my uses they don't work as well as Android. The reason iOS is so great is that it just works. Period. From the first boot to the last, an iOS device is going to work exactly like Apple intended it to.
The Android Vs. Apple debate is much akin to the Win Vs Mac debate. Apple builds its software to work on its hardware and it does, thats the reason I buy Mac laptops; in the 6 years I've owned them I've had three issues two of which were hardware failures and one was my wife's fault (she spilled soda on the keyboard). All three of the issues were solved on the spot by Apple with a total of 5 hours and $0.00 of my time and money lost to waiting and repairs. Five hours. When my wife's Compaq laptop got its THIRD motherboard recall in TWO years it took me three hours on the phone to find out I had found out about the recall one week late and was then told it would cost me $400 dollars and 4-6 weeks to get it. I ended up having to manually recover what data I could from her hard drive and the rest was lost.
Windows machines allow the user to do much more personal customization and give them much more choice in terms of hardware but the cost of that is a much higher level of system failure. Its the same way with android. I can't begin to account for the hours I've wasted setting up and customizing my wife's and my phones only to have issues come up and its all lost. I've lost count of the number of times I've had to run terminal commands to get my phone to even boot. If I had an iOS device, that probably wouldn't happen but I'd also not feel like my phone UI looks and runs like I want it to.
In a rather long-winded and round-a-bout way, the point I'm getting at is that if you want a phone that simply works, makes calls, gets texts, so and and so forth then iPhone is a great choice. But if you want a phone that you can hack to bits and make to be a reflection of your personality then Android is you choice. That's my opinion at least.
yes and no
leagues happier than my iphone but some what less impressed by others android phones. But hey it was free.
I don't understand everyone complaining of a lack of SD slot. It mounts so you can use it as a portable drive, it also allows a much higher I/O. There's not one thing that a removable SD card would allow me to do more than what I can do now except potentially lose a tiny piece of my phone.
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the internal SD doesn't have enough space, it just as simple as that
13GB fills up in a blink of an eye
I'm still happy with it for the most part. The only serious gripe I have at this point is RAM; it doesn't have enough to deal with the number of apps that like to run in the background eating up those tiny 2-5 MB chunks these days, and it doesn't always dump them from memory efficiently enough to play memory-intensive games nicely without first going in and killing processes. Also, it just came back from its second Best Buy repair, so... a little touchy hardware-wise perhaps.
I like vanilla Google and am not a huge fan of rooting and modding, though, so I'd be reluctant to move away from the Nexus line. I just hope the next one has a lot more RAM, and keeps a larger portion of it free at any given time for gaming. And is maybe less prone to needing to be fixed. >.>
RAM is not that bad, i can manage to constantly keep 75Mb free
is hard to trip enough Widgets to make that much free RAM
and make sure to not leave any app/game running in the background
AllGamer said:
RAM is not that bad, i can manage to constantly keep 75Mb free
is hard to trip enough Widgets to make that much free RAM
and make sure to not leave any app/game running in the background
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Seriously? 75mb? Running services will always show me 240mb+ free ram.
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AllGamer said:
RAM is not that bad, i can manage to constantly keep 75Mb free
is hard to trip enough Widgets to make that much free RAM
and make sure to not leave any app/game running in the background
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The problem is when apps and games do run in the background, and there's no way to close them completely without going through task manager. Granted that's as much a complaint about the apps in question as about Android itself, but there will always be apps that don't behave properly in all respects. The OS should be able to handle them without user intervention.
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The problem is when apps and games do run in the background, and there's no way to close them completely without going through task manager. Granted that's as much a complaint about the apps in question as about Android itself, but there will always be apps that don't behave properly in all respects. The OS should be able to handle them without user intervention.
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Every app I exit out of, I exit with the back button for an exit dialog or use the menu-exit option. Never have 'stuff running'.
Some apps have components that always run(new facebook and google+ updates), I uninstall those apps and use the browser.
I don't experience what you're describing.
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No ICS... yet, from Samsung

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So sad!
That is really sad.
P6200 has almost the same spec as galaxy tabs 2 7.0 and it should be an easy job for Samsung to write the ics update of P6200.
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While I question is this is the right section for this post, I'll just add that I did chat with Samsung support yesterday in regards to ICS. Peel support (remote control app) basically told me that my LCD TV (Olevia brand) has an issue that is known and is going to be fixed in ICS. So I of course as Samsung when ICS is coming and was told "IF it is released, not when".
I clarified with him a number of times.
He stood by If not when it is released.
Samsung has already announced that they will be releasing ICS for the Tab Plus:
https://www.facebook.com/notes/sams...dwich-upgrade-for-galaxy-s-ii/390405030989148
If you look about halfway down it says:
"ICS for GALAXY Note, GALAXY S II LTE, GALAXY R, GALAXY Tab 7.0 Plus, 7.7, 8.9, 8.9 LTE and 10.1 will follow soon"
lokijux2 said:
While I question is this is the right section for this post, I'll just add that I did chat with Samsung support yesterday in regards to ICS. Peel support (remote control app) basically told me that my LCD TV (Olevia brand) has an issue that is known and is going to be fixed in ICS. So I of course as Samsung when ICS is coming and was told "IF it is released, not when".
I clarified with him a number of times.
He stood by If not when it is released.
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Well the release of tab 2 will be end of April so we can expect ics a month or two after that. They have to make money after all.
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Why Do I Want ICS BTW?
I've had my 7+ for 6 months now. Other than the low-level audio problem, I'm extremely happy with the way it performs. I'm not a gamer. I'm not a tinkerer. I don't want to design my own fancy UI with cool animation. I don't want to do any 'work' on the Tab.
I just want to look at and listen to stuff. I even found a Media Player that finally displays the Album Art properly. Netflix works, OfficeSuite works, PowerAmp, TuneIn, email, they all work. Perfectly (almost).
I feel like I'm missing some majorly cool stuff that I won't be able to do as I sit here happily noodling along with Honeycomb while you lot are all blazing away with ICS, doing something else. What do I need ICS for?
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I've had my 7+ for 6 months now. Other than the low-level audio problem, I'm extremely happy with the way it performs. I'm not a gamer. I'm not a tinkerer. I don't want to design my own fancy UI with cool animation. I don't want to do any 'work' on the Tab.
I just want to look at and listen to stuff. I even found a Media Player that finally displays the Album Art properly. Netflix works, OfficeSuite works, PowerAmp, TuneIn, email, they all work. Perfectly (almost).
I feel like I'm missing some majorly cool stuff that I won't be able to do as I sit here happily noodling along with Honeycomb while you lot are all blazing away with ICS, doing something else. What do I need ICS for?
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I want it for the Peel remote fixes and the hope that the HBO GO app is finally compatible with our device. Not to mention lockscreen player capability added to Google Music.
Could always be worse (not much worse) but we could just get a "value pack" like Galaxy S devices.
Bahahahaha.
Is anyone really surprised that Samsung is taking their time to rollout an update?
But seriously, I always say that I am never buying another Samsung device for this reason, but then I always end up buying another Samsung device.
The Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 7.0's release is being delayed to the end of the month, according to Samsung themselves. The reason is because they just haven't got ICS working properly with the device yet.
Whilst this is no doubt frustrating for some, at least they are waiting until they've got it ready. There's a general tacit acceptance that any release of any products software will come with bugs that will reveal themselves, and I for one would rather wait a little longer so that the "final" product has less of the buggers to deal with when released.
Whilst Samsung won't confirm I think that it is reasonable to assume that when the Tab 2 gets released then there should be ICS for our beloved Tab+ following swiftly afterwards... Aside from the slower CPU (and why is the newer product getting a slower ) the two units are pretty darn similar, are they not ?
And lets be honest, it's not as if our beloved Tab+ is suffering terribly with Honeycomb... IT IS A GREAT STANDALONE product. Want it to look different? Go investigate some of the Launchers available from the app store/market. Want it to perform differently? Take a manup pill and ROM the bastard, I managed it, and I'm a grumpy old Windows luddite.
Some people are speculating that the hold up for the Tab 2 is due to it using the new Broadcom SoC. The Tab Plus uses the Exynos which is already working for ICS on the SGSII.
Of course, this is just hearsay and speculative but I do hope the development for ICS on the Tab Plus is just as much completed as it is on the Tab 2.
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The Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 7.0's release is being delayed to the end of the month, according to Samsung themselves. The reason is because they just haven't got ICS working properly with the device yet.
Whilst this is no doubt frustrating for some, at least they are waiting until they've got it ready. There's a general tacit acceptance that any release of any products software will come with bugs that will reveal themselves, and I for one would rather wait a little longer so that the "final" product has less of the buggers to deal with when released.
Whilst Samsung won't confirm I think that it is reasonable to assume that when the Tab 2 gets released then there should be ICS for our beloved Tab+ following swiftly afterwards... Aside from the slower CPU (and why is the newer product getting a slower ) the two units are pretty darn similar, are they not ?
And lets be honest, it's not as if our beloved Tab+ is suffering terribly with Honeycomb... IT IS A GREAT STANDALONE product. Want it to look different? Go investigate some of the Launchers available from the app store/market. Want it to perform differently? Take a manup pill and ROM the bastard, I managed it, and I'm a grumpy old Windows luddite.
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And lets be honest, it's not as if our beloved Tab+ is suffering terribly with Honeycomb... IT IS A GREAT STANDALONE product. Want it to look different? Go investigate some of the Launchers available from the app store/market. Want it to perform differently? Take a manup pill and ROM the bastard, I managed it, and I'm a grumpy old Windows luddite.
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Agreed. In fact, the Tab+ is running what I believe is a newer version of Honeycomb than what was generally available on other devices (most HC tablets were running 3.0 or 3.1, Tab+ is running 3.2).
Honeycomb got a particularly bad rap for having a buggy initial release that needed a couple of minor updates to get everything ironed out. What most folks seem to be overlooking is that ICS was pretty much the exact same way. My wife's Xoom is running ICS and it got another point release just last week that fixed some stability issues and problems with screen rotations.
I won't lie, I'd like an upgrade to ICS but I don't want to go from fully-baked HC to half-baked ICS either. And having used a Tab+ w/HC3.2 side by side to a Xoom w/ICS, I honestly don't think us Tab+ users are missing out on a whole lot.
I just purchased by GT7+ a few weeks ago, and I'm very happy with the device and Honeycomb seems to work just fine.
I do have some experience with releasing software for consumer devices. I'm in the operations group supporting a product with millions of customer devices. Finalizing and releasing software is a grueling process. Making sure that no one missed that one bug that will drive customer service calls is an ordeal. When a bug is found... Reset, everything starts over with the new build.
I don't mind waiting (granted since I'm a new owner I'm not really waiting) if they get it right the first time it will be worth it.
they needa hurry:-| remove all that bloatware i say! i assume this tablet is very new? i just got it so im not hundred precent sure on when it was released to the consumer i just would like to see why its taking alot of ram and be able to run newest software;-)

announcement regarding ICS coming in July

Announcement:
With the recent announcement that the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus series will be getting ICS next month (in July), and the implied failure of Samsung to deliver ICS in June after previously announcing it, Samsung has managed to take over the Second Greatest Lie in the World, displacing "I won't cum in your mouth." If Samsung succeeds in this same pattern for the next 8 months, it will have a shot at taking over the top spot, still held by "The check is in the mail." The current top three Greatest Lies in the World, in rank order, are:
#1: The check is in the mail.
#2: You'll get ICS next month.
#3: I won't cum in your mouth.
Company representatives declined to be interviewed officially for this story, stating that they'll make an official press release in the beginning of next month. However, they have allowed information to leak anonymously that Samsung believes they have held the #2 spot all along, as "I won't cum in your mouth" only applies to Apple products sold in the USA.
In addition, Samsung lawyers have filed in injunction in Canadian courts attempting to displace "The check is in the mail." According to the documents filed, Samsung believes that this statement must be broken into two seperate statements, one for paper mail and another for electronic mail. Doing so would allow Samsung's ICS promise to overtake the number one spot.
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LOL. Hope Samsung is reading this thread.
ahhahaha EPIC
Must be getting old :fingers-crossed:. i thought the number one lie was "The Dog Ate It!" :cyclops:
Damn gary, I thought you did known better.
Ics update to us is "eligible" for one of the greatest lies. There is no real position for it yet.
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Did they happen to mention July of what year?
GTOJim said:
Did they happen to mention July of what year?
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Hmm, I think you probably meant to say "of what decade".
Gents,
a few questions.
a.) Which is the functionality that is only present in ICS and you can't use it in
Honeycomb right now?
b.) If you are so fed-up with your Samsung why don't you sell it and buy something else?
Honestly for me it doesn't matter if I get ICS in July, August or next year.
I am just perfectly fine with the current 3.2 version. Both my 7+ and 7.7 can
do just the thing I need them to do.
It's just funny to see different threads talking about the same cr*p, how certain people is fed-up with their tablets but they can't do anything else then wine. Guess they are not THAT fed-up with the tablet at all (if they still have their tablets). Or?
Why did you wrote this post. Do you think we would agree with you even remotely. I think you'd better farted.
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nutzo said:
Gents,
a few questions.
a.) Which is the functionality that is only present in ICS and you can't use it in
Honeycomb right now?
b.) If you are so fed-up with your Samsung why don't you sell it and buy something else?
Honestly for me it doesn't matter if I get ICS in July, August or next year.
I am just perfectly fine with the current 3.2 version. Both my 7+ and 7.7 can
do just the thing I need them to do.
It's just funny to see different threads talking about the same cr*p, how certain people is fed-up with their tablets but they can't do anything else then wine. Guess they are not THAT fed-up with the tablet at all (if they still have their tablets). Or?
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A) Better battery life, better memory management, the ability to clear the Recent Apps list, the ability to use Chrome, the ability to save videos offline in the YouTube app, fixed Wifi Sleep of Death issues, upgraded standard browser... The list goes on.
B) If the Nexus 7 shows up in store soon, I may well do so.
Most of those people would jump ship if there was a reasonable alternative available. Enter the Nexus 7 and maybe Asus's original tablet.
I agree in some parts with the pro HC guy. There are no strong reasons for someone sell or buy other tablets only for the ICS. And a lot of people are pissed with HC only because ics exists.
But unfortunately he posted In a slightly wrong thread. As this one is biased on the lack of respect of samsung on keep promisses.
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I agree in some parts with the pro HC guy. There are no strong reasons for someone sell or buy other tablets only for the ICS. And a lot of people are pissed with HC only because ics exists.
But unfortunately he posted In a slightly wrong thread. As this one is biased on the lack of respect of samsung on keep promisses.
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I'm pissed with HC because it's still bugged - it's not GPU accelerated and gets sluggish at times, and many various bugs aren't patched - those fixes come in ICS (as listed above). More importantly Google appears to have completely abandoned HC support in favour of the unified ICS OS, which incorporates fixes and improvements to performance, battery life, various kernel bugs which caused the Sleep of Death problems, and more software is getting out there which either needs ICS for full functionality (or to run at all).
And the worst part? Samsung's been making empty promises for months, while pushing out tablets which are very similar to the 7+ in hardware with ICS already in place. All the while talking about how the original devices are eligible for upgrades... but then mysteriously letting the deadlines get extended. Even for Nexus devices, some of which are still waiting for current versions of ICS - yet they're able to ship out new Galaxy S III's with the most current Honeycomb version in markets where Galaxy Nexus phones are still waiting for 4.0.2 or 4.0.4 (which is on the Galaxy S III). It's obviously not a problem with being unable to recompile the radios or whatever's delaying those devices - it seems more that they're unwilling to deliver updates to keep your phone secure and current in features, and would much rather you buy a new device. Even if you're on the 'pure Android' Nexus, much less one of the Galaxy Tabs like what most of the people here have.
I'm just very, very glad that Asus got the Nexus 7 tablet - at least they deliver updates, even if some of the updates need fixing on occasion.
The only reason a Galaxy Nexus would be waiting on an updated is because of the carrier that it is on. Different carrier set-ups require different software tweaks. That's why only unlocked GSM devices are "true" Nexus devices.
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nutzo said:
Gents,
a few questions.
a.) Which is the functionality that is only present in ICS and you can't use it in
Honeycomb right now?
b.) If you are so fed-up with your Samsung why don't you sell it and buy something else?
Honestly for me it doesn't matter if I get ICS in July, August or next year.
I am just perfectly fine with the current 3.2 version. Both my 7+ and 7.7 can
do just the thing I need them to do.
It's just funny to see different threads talking about the same cr*p, how certain people is fed-up with their tablets but they can't do anything else then wine. Guess they are not THAT fed-up with the tablet at all (if they still have their tablets). Or?
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I agree with you about the Samsung not updating thing because it isn't exactly new, so we really have no real grounds to complain about common knowledge.
nutzo said:
Gents,
a few questions.
a.) Which is the functionality that is only present in ICS and you can't use it in
Honeycomb right now?
b.) If you are so fed-up with your Samsung why don't you sell it and buy something else?
Honestly for me it doesn't matter if I get ICS in July, August or next year.
I am just perfectly fine with the current 3.2 version. Both my 7+ and 7.7 can
do just the thing I need them to do.
It's just funny to see different threads talking about the same cr*p, how certain people is fed-up with their tablets but they can't do anything else then wine. Guess they are not THAT fed-up with the tablet at all (if they still have their tablets). Or?
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Well u must put in consideration that not all of us use our tabs the same am I right? I agree that its not really that big of a deal. But I can see how it can for some people. Me and my friend bought the same tab but he uses it for almost everything. From entertainment(movies, gaming YouTube...) to school work. And I have seen his device its not as fast as mine. And if ics seems more promising then maybe its worth a shot. Its free right? You've got nothing to loose really? But personally I've tried ics on my sisters Sony tab and I must say that honestly there is a substantial difference in performance. As for heavy users I mean. But hey its just an update its a win win situation for everyone right?
Oh man, that was funny. Although, I was always under the impression that the number one lie in the world was, "I love you too."
The UK user manual has been updated on the 6th to include details about using ICS.
One can only assume that it is expected pretty sharpish;
http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/c..._UM_EU_Icecream_Eng_Rev.1.0_120704_Screen.pdf
SWFlyerUK said:
The UK user manual has been updated on the 6th to include details about using ICS.
One can only assume that it is expected pretty sharpish;
http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/c..._UM_EU_Icecream_Eng_Rev.1.0_120704_Screen.pdf
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Hopefully it will be out real soon...
Well, in my experiance of manuals being put on the website - the firmware has been released the following week. Has happened with Archos a few times.

Exclusive Preview: Android 5.0 Lollipop On Samsung Galaxy Note 3

hi there guys we have recieved the latest android 5.0 on our note 3 !!
this thread from sammobile
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​We have already provided you with exclusive previews of Android 5.0 Lollipop running on multiple Samsung devices, such as the Galaxy S5 and the Galaxy S4, today we have something similar to show you once again. Its Android 5.0 Lollipop on the Samsung Galaxy Note 3.
We have got our hands on an internal build of Lollipop for Galaxy Note 3. It shows us just how Samsung’s new TouchWiz UI looks on last year’s phablet flagship, while bringing support for all of the new features that come as part and parcel of Android 5.0 Lollipop. It looks pretty similar to Lollipop on the S4, and only the Settings and Multi-Window have been updated.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmFRLu_mSCQ
As far as the user interface is concerned there are new animations which are smoother than before, while the core green elements of Android Lollipop have been replaced with Samsung’s signature blue color. These design changes are pretty evident in the attached screenshots which also depict the new system-wide font, new icon colors in Settings, and an overall better look and feel.
The new Multi-Window feature from Galaxy Note 4 also makes an appearance and it’s here to stay, enhancing the multitasking feature on this handset.
Please note that for safety reasons we cannot leak this particular build right now, but that won’t stop us from giving all of you the first look at Lollipop on the Galaxy Note 3.
screen shots from sammobile :
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Great, now i've even more hype!
Any news about the development status of the update?
Sempiternum said:
Great, now i've even more hype!
Any news about the development status of the update?
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4 now nothing !! the export date as i expect next december !!
Oh i almost forget it's 4 The SM-N9005 release !!
Sad to see that everything Samsung touches looks like sh*t imo.
Touchwiz really needs an big overhaul, why would they make it all bright and shiny, Samsung's phones have Amoled screens. My guess will be that the battery life will be worse by quite a big margin on L.
I don't like it.
Sammath said:
Sad to see that everything Samsung touches looks like sh*t imo.
Touchwiz really needs an big overhaul, why would they make it all bright and shiny, Samsung's phones have Amoled screens. My guess will be that the battery life will be worse by quite a big margin on L.
I don't like it.
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+1 agree !! :good:
Sammath said:
Sad to see that everything Samsung touches looks like sh*t imo.
Touchwiz really needs an big overhaul, why would they make it all bright and shiny, Samsung's phones have Amoled screens. My guess will be that the battery life will be worse by quite a big margin on L.
I don't like it.
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the only thing that makes me tied to touchwiz is all the s-pen features i can't have on aosp rom.
and yes, i tried third party apps, they simply don't fit my needs.
Sempiternum said:
the only thing that makes me tied to touchwiz is all the s-pen features i can't have on aosp rom.
and yes, i tried third party apps, they simply don't fit my needs.
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Use MIUI ROM..it is based on TW..
That looks just like kitkat! I seriously recommend Samsung ditches TW in favour of vanilla android because everything that bloke showed in the video looks exactly the same as 4.4....theirs no freshness to it, nothing new to look forward to, stupid and ugly TW over beautiful vanilla android! Ergh! I'm staying well away from that! If its not broken....don't fix it and **** it up. I understand that the TW framework is needed for the spen features, maybe TW needs a major overhaul because at the moment it just looks dull.
Since lollipop has new camera API. Does that mean this update will improve image quality or add more features?
Someone please give me proper aosp with sammy spen(not 3rd party solution). Samsung listen to us, please.
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AndroidInsanity said:
Since lollipop has new camera API. Does that mean this update will improve image quality or add more features?
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All I know for this moment the features will be improved in the s pen abilities and a similar apps like note 4 !! And a few updates but not with the big deal
Any way let's wait for the firmware release date
I absolutely don't like the looks of Lollipop, neither vanilla and neither TouchWiz and I hate the white-themed Settings (especially considering the AMOLED screen). I disabled animations everywhere I could, so these new ones don't appeal to me at all. And Material Design is way overrated. I'll eventually use a custom ROM, the technical improvements are nice to have though.
Sammath said:
Sad to see that everything Samsung touches looks like sh*t imo.
Touchwiz really needs an big overhaul, why would they make it all bright and shiny, Samsung's phones have Amoled screens. My guess will be that the battery life will be worse by quite a big margin on L.
I don't like it.
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The way I see it it's all about preference. Samsung should never have made TouchWiz like this, all bloated and cluttered. Android should be used how it supposed to be, the Nexus way, but that doesn't mean on giving up stuffs like a great display, a good camera and other stuffs.
I sold my S4, because of TouchWiz, got damn bored of it, bought a Moto X, loved it, software wise, but then again I could not stand that awful display and brilliant camera. So here I am back again with Samsung, just craving for a good display, and I got it, compromisation had to be made, and I chose software, that's all.
You can't have it all, but still Samsung should ditch TouchWiz, no matter what.
sulja rock said:
The new Multi-Window feature from Galaxy Note 4 also makes an appearance and it’s here to stay, enhancing the multitasking feature on this handset.
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What does it mean? Not everyone is aware about the Note 4 features here.
Someguyfromhell said:
What does it mean? Not everyone is aware about the Note 4 features here.
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As I said this thread from sammobile
Which means I'm not the writer of this topic !! but for me I'm so impressed by the s pen features from the note 4
Anyway everyone is free in his choices ☺?
Samsung should really ditch touchwiz. It looks even worse on lollipop, and it's probably bloated to hell as usual.
Haters, haters everywhere. Come on, it doesn't look that bad, switch that awful keyboard and change the wallpaper and it actually looks pretty good. It's not the best material design implementation but it's definitely a step in the right direction. Give me the new note 4 pen features and I'm a happy user.
lvnatic said:
Haters, haters everywhere. Come on, it doesn't look that bad, switch that awful keyboard and change the wallpaper and it actually looks pretty good. It's not the best material design implementation but it's definitely a step in the right direction. Give me the new note 4 pen features and I'm a happy user.
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+1
LOL! How are keyboard and wallpaper even mattering here!!
vap_66 said:
I absolutely don't like the looks of Lollipop, neither vanilla and neither TouchWiz and I hate the white-themed Settings (especially considering the AMOLED screen). I disabled animations everywhere I could, so these new ones don't appeal to me at all. And Material Design is way overrated. I'll eventually use a custom ROM, the technical improvements are nice to have though.
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Who cares? Dont like TouchWiz? Dont like android 5? Go and sell your phone. Buy an iphone and fys.
So go fys.
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Guys? Who complains about TouchWiz whole the day, and everything you are doing is crying about your TouchWiz look and scream about how is samsung bad... just sell your phones and buy nexus and go away with closed mouth. OMG all comments are about crying. Dont like? Go a head- try another device. Just stop f**king our brain with your bull**** about how is everything is so f**king bad.

Seems we have come to the End for the EP

It's probably not news to everyone that Essential has thrown in the towel on the Essential Phone
https://www.droid-life.com/2018/12/28/it-looks-like-the-end-has-finally-come-to-the-essential-phone/
Sad news really ... This is the first phone I've had that I really really loved
I basically quite looking at other phones after owning this one.
Hopefully something else will come along that sparks my interest, maybe a Oneplus is in my future ?
For me, this is a sad occasion too. My Essential phone has been amazing and I don't think I've loved a phone the same way. I can toy with this thing a ton, with it being Treble compatible and pretty close to stock android. (I even watched I/O 18 live, and cheered when Essential was revealed to be on the beta list for pie.) Right now if you guys want one last fling at a rooted tweak for the Essential phone, check out this Magisk Module from the Lawnchair Launcher team, called Quickstep Switcher.
https://twitter.com/lawnchairapp/status/1078692474795769857
It switches your recents provider on a system level, allowing for launchers like Lawnchair and OnePlus Launcher to use their Pie navigation features on your device. The modded OnePlus Launcher they provided in the Telegram chat gives you iPhone X-Series fluid animations and movements. It's been a great ride y'all. See ya on the OnePlus 7 forums next year.
The PH1 is no longer for sale
but Essential is not dead yet.
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbre...one-discontinued-new-mobile-product-confirmed
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It's been pretty well known that Essential has been working on a new smartphone for a couple of months. They're definitely not dead.
Sad news but...Does it mean that we won't have more monthly updates?
Darkside1984 said:
Sad news but...Does it mean that we won't have more monthly updates?
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No they have said the updates will keep coming. And it's not as if the device will just quit now. People are such drama queens.
autosurgeon said:
No they have said the updates will keep coming. And it's not as if the device will just quit now. People are such drama queens.
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it's the end of an era, not really about the drama
As for them selling another phone, I have yet to see any news that confirms this.
"We are now hard at work on our next mobile product" doesn't really mean anything
some are speculating it means
But as part of that announcement, the company is also confirming something that fans had long hoped to be true: Essential is officially working on a second “mobile product,” presumably this rumored tiny phone that uses AI to answer emails and text messages for you. An Essential spokeswoman wouldn’t directly confirm to me that its “next mobile product” is a phone, but that’s what “mobile product” generally means.
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I be leave are phones will continue to be updated, but it's still sad to here production has stopped.
I suspect production has been over for 6 months or more likely a year.
The way read their statement is that they are stopping current production but will launch a new "AI" phone sometime. So definitely not dead.
No phone is restocked after an year and half, I don't see issues here..
It's old tech* now, nobody would buy a phone with an 835 when phone with 855 are in the pipeline for the next weeks... nobody gives a fk when any other company stops the production of older phones.. I really don't get why in this case there are news about it!
All media always had something negative to say about this phone.. in a way that's not justified in my opinion.
*Don't get me wrong, I love it, it's the best phone I ever had. To me, that I have bought it at a very convenient price, is the only true spiritual successor to nexus 5, just much better under every aspect.. but I bought it more than 1 year ago.. No people would like to buy a one plus 5, new from one plus, today.
Is there any chance ROM development will stop soon on this phone? I'm thinking of buying this phone used due to the stock nature but if ROM development is stopping soon as well, then I'll look elsewhere
StDevious said:
Is there any chance ROM development will stop soon on this phone? I'm thinking of buying this phone used due to the stock nature but if ROM development is stopping soon as well, then I'll look elsewhere
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ROM development will last years on a device like this.
Your biggest issue would be missing out on 5g in the next year... But as long as you plan to upgrade in 2-3 years from now you'll be fine and not miss much.
nascar48 said:
ROM development will last years on a device like this.
Your biggest issue would be missing out on 5g in the next year... But as long as you plan to upgrade in 2-3 years from now you'll be fine and not miss much.
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If there is 5 g in your area.
There are many places where 5G will probably never get there.
Edit
https://www.computerworld.com/article/3310067/mobile-wireless/why-5g-will-disappoint-everyone.html
Edit2: grammar
chk27 said:
No phone is restocked after an year and half, I don't see issues here..
It's old tech* now, nobody would buy a phone with an 835 when phone with 855 are in the pipeline for the next weeks... nobody gives a fk when any other company stops the production of older phones.. I really don't get why in this case there are news about it!
All media always had something negative to say about this phone.. in a way that's not justified in my opinion.
*Don't get me wrong, I love it, it's the best phone I ever had. To me, that I have bought it at a very convenient price, is the only true spiritual successor to nexus 5, just much better under every aspect.. but I bought it more than 1 year ago.. No people would like to buy a one plus 5, new from one plus, today.
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I just bought the phone (granted I got it for free "essentially "^_^) but those specs mean nothing to me. Day to day performance and prompt updates which it looks like essential has been doing is important to me. People get WAY too caught up in these new SoC's when the originals have BARELY been tapped out and for 99% of people, they don't need more.
https://www.slashgear.com/evidence-essential-phone-ph-2-will-be-a-penultimate-evolution-06564808/
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Support told me an email the are working on their next mobile product.
The Phone has been out a while and I picked mine up new open box for $199.
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