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[JB]Improve Battery Life (ICS not tested)

Hi everyone,
I found a way to improve battery life of our phone. We just charge our phone with usb cable in usb mass-storage mode.
Let it full charge and enjoy strongly battery life. It worked for me and after that you didnt need to charge with cable again just do normal charge with adapter.
Just tested with my phone CM10 A2. Battery drain about 2%(6hrs didnt do anything).
Enjoy!

Try reboot your phone and see your battery drain or not
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Lol, no difference at all, you probably just did enough cycles for it to adjust, battery life depends on your usage really.. and this is not a 'fix'.
@Ave666, rebooting will always take your battery down, it will slowly ramp to the correct value again after a few minutes.

Skander1998 said:
Lol, no difference at all, you probably just did enough cycles for it to adjust, battery life depends on your usage really.. and this is not a 'fix'.
@Ave666, rebooting will always take your battery down, it will slowly ramp to the correct value again after a few minutes.
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Hello all,
There is a drop of true. According to battery's chemistry, it's better to charge with lower amperage. Usual USB port provides 500mAh, ordinary charger 750 to 1000mAh.
Of course, charging via usb takes longer, but battery packs a little more voltage. If you have some app, witch checks battery voltage, you can check it. Read more
http://www.powerstream.com/li.htm
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/everyday-tech/lithium-ion-battery.htm

cukierkas said:
Hello all,
There is a drop of true. According to battery's chemistry, it's better to charge with lower amperage. Usual USB port provides 500mAh, ordinary charger 750 to 1000mAh.
Of course, charging via usb takes longer, but battery packs a little more voltage. If you have some app, witch checks battery voltage, you can check it. Read more
http://www.powerstream.com/li.htm
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/everyday-tech/lithium-ion-battery.htm
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Either way, won't 'magically' make a difference from the first charge, that is used to preserve the battery, and not make it magically last longer.. lol.

cukierkas said:
Hello all,
There is a drop of true. According to battery's chemistry, it's better to charge with lower amperage. Usual USB port provides 500mAh, ordinary charger 750 to 1000mAh.
Of course, charging via usb takes longer, but battery packs a little more voltage. If you have some app, witch checks battery voltage, you can check it. Read more
http://www.powerstream.com/li.htm
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/everyday-tech/lithium-ion-battery.htm
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So you mean to say lower mA battery charger is good for battery health?? I have observed that 1A battery quickly charges battery but also rises temperature of phone as well as battery drian is little bit higher.

I don't think that it makes a real difference. Charging our battery (1650 mAh) with a normal charger at 1A current is fine as it's charing with 0.6C. The charger automatically stops charging when the voltage of your Li-Ion cells have reached the wanted voltage AND the current has gone low (about 5% or a bit less; depends on charger). Much more important is that you don't stress your battery too much, so that the capacity doesn't decease that fast.
Never deep discharge Li-Ion batteries. This kills your battery (Should not happen as phone automatically turns off, but then don't try to turn it on again)
Avoid full full charges. Sounds silly, but voltage related stress is lower which is good for your battery health.
(Thats the reason, why I store my Li-Po batteries for my RC helicopter at 40%-50% charge at the end of summer)
Remember: Bad battery health = low capacity = poor battery life = quickly discharged phone
Charge often to keep your battery at a medium charge level, which is best for your batteries.
Li-Ion batteries dont know the "memory effect". Partly charging and discharging is no harm.

Vishal, mainly, yes. I'm charging usually via USB.
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vishal24387 said:
So you mean to say lower mA battery charger is good for battery health?? I have observed that 1A battery quickly charges battery but also rises temperature of phone as well as battery drian is little bit higher.
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Technically, the slower the charge the better it is, but the difference is very, very very unnoticeable..

Skander1998 said:
Technically, the slower the charge the better it is, but the difference is very, very very unnoticeable..
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Regards that "unnoticable": Are you saying that in general as you did for the fact before? I'm asking because charge currents greater than 0.85-1C with standard Li-Ion batteries cause a noticable effect.
I have tested some Li-Po batteries with different charge currents, as they where cheaper than the ones I am using for my helicopters. The one that I have charged with 0.75C behaved quite fine, while the one with 1.25 C didn't like that charge currents very much.

Taraen said:
I don't think that it makes a real difference. Charging our battery (1650 mAh) with a normal charger at 1A current is fine as it's charing with 0.6C. The charger automatically stops charging when the voltage of your Li-Ion cells have reached the wanted voltage AND the current has gone low (about 5% or a bit less; depends on charger). Much more important is that you don't stress your battery too much, so that the capacity doesn't decease that fast.
Never deep discharge Li-Ion batteries. This kills your battery (Should not happen as phone automatically turns off, but then don't try to turn it on again)
Avoid full full charges. Sounds silly, but voltage related stress is lower which is good for your battery health.
(Thats the reason, why I store my Li-Po batteries for my RC helicopter at 40%-50% charge at the end of summer)
Remember: Bad battery health = low capacity = poor battery life = quickly discharged phone
Charge often to keep your battery at a medium charge level, which is best for your batteries.
Li-Ion batteries dont know the "memory effect". Partly charging and discharging is no harm.
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nice info thx.

[Q] Nokia Wireless charger continues charging after battery is full

I bought a Nokia wireless charger from ATT online store.
It works on my nexus 5, but when the phone is full charged the LED light on the charger is still solid on (on means charging, and blinking means done). However I go to Setting->battery, and it shows battery is full.
My question is which one is right?
-Wireless charger is still charging the phone.
-The system shows battery is full, so the phone won't be charged. But since the charger is Nokia, so it doesn't know my Nexus 5 battery is full.
Thanks in advance

I believe there phone will stop charging the battery buy the charger won't know so it'll keep going. The phone has the circuitry to prevent damage to the phone.
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I purchased (2) tylt wireless chargers from kickstarter a while back and I planned to keep the N5 cradled most of the time.
Unfortunately while the chargers work great they also heat the battery to 110 F while charging as compared to around 80 F with a straight USB charger. I'm afraid this heat will eventually kill the battery. Since the battery isn't easily replaceable I've decided to abandon the wireless chargers.
The batteries and the whole device stays hot after its charged and until I pull it off the charger. I didn't notice whether the charge light actually went out on the charger itself after the charge was completed. If I'm brave or (dumb) enough to try it again I'll report back.
Anyone having better luck with the stock wireless charger or other wireless chargers like the Nokia?

I purchased the same Nokia wireless charging pad, and, despite the LED not turning off on the pad, the battery DOES stop charging once it is full.
This can be observed through a battery monitoring app like Battery Widget Reborn. If you look at the battery graph at any point after the battery hits 100%, and before you remove it from the charging pad, you'll notice an even 2 or 3 percent drop and rise at regular intervals. This is the trickle charge mechanism. Once the battery is full, it stops charging, Once the battery drops down to a certain percentage, the charge resumes, and the cycle repeats itself until you take the phone off of the charging pad.

Same here with another brand on wireless charging pad, I think it's normal
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mxmarcus said:
Same here with another brand on wireless charging pad, I think it's normal
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
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Are you not concern with premature battery wear considering now it's not user replaceable? Heat is supposedly not good for battery life.

lukas_s said:
I purchased the same Nokia wireless charging pad, and, despite the LED not turning off on the pad, the battery DOES stop charging once it is full.
This can be observed through a battery monitoring app like Battery Widget Reborn. If you look at the battery graph at any point after the battery hits 100%, and before you remove it from the charging pad, you'll notice an even 2 or 3 percent drop and rise at regular intervals. This is the trickle charge mechanism. Once the battery is full, it stops charging, Once the battery drops down to a certain percentage, the charge resumes, and the cycle repeats itself until you take the phone off of the charging pad.
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This really explained me what happens. Thanks !!!

Battery lasts longer after normal recharging than turbo charging

Hi,
I noticed that when I recharge it with a charger that is only 650ma the battery last much longer than with turbo charger that came with the phone.
Even in standby after recharged it takes one hour to consume only 1% but after turbo recharging it takes about 10 min to drop 1%.
Is there anyone experiencing something like that?

Funny it is.... The case is opposite for me... Although I use Transomart QC 2.0 charger. My battery lasts longer when I charge it with quick charger compared to standard 1 Amp chargers.

That´s so weird.
I am preparing a comparison to figure out what's happening.

It happens the same here. I've a Aukey turbo charger and the battery drains faster

pesimeao said:
It happens the same here. I've a Aukey turbo charger and the battery drains faster
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I also got Aukey and it's the same

There's no way to actually know the charge (in mAh) of a battery without draining the battery. The way that phones estimate the charge is by measuring the voltage of the battery. Quick Charge 2.0 (supported by the Moto X 2014) uses a higher voltage to charge the battery faster. This can make the battery hit max voltage before it is actually fully charged. That is why Quick Charge always advertises how quickly it gets to 80%. To get to full charge (not just when it shows 100%, but when it is actually fully charged) will take about the same time as a standard charger.

Heat and Turbo charge destroys your battery.

if i turbo charge , my phone will suddenly die when it's between 10-20%. W/ regular charging I get sudden death at 6-8%

i use a moto razr 850mah charger and solved the 8% sud power off, took 2 charge cycles from death to 100% leaving it overnight. Now battery works as it should

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As I've been reading around (can't recall specific scientific data), the faster you charge the battery, the less capacity it can hold. So it makes sense that it lasts longer if you charge it slowly. I don't know how much would be the difference tho.

It is normal in my opinion. Slower charging is also healthier for the battery and usually will last longer

Has anyone ever used a wireless charging pad with the phone. I bought a stick-on one from amazon and it charges fine,,,slower but fine. However, I noticed that it tends to get suck at certain levels and if I take off the wireless charger at say 89 percent,,,it takes less than a min to go to 100 percent charged?

Recomendeed is charge with Motorola original charger of this device, i mean 1150mAh dual port charger

Anyone here with experience of using Motorola's Turbopower 15 wall charger? I'm thinking to buy one, because waiting for 1 hr to charge to 100% is quite annoying.

Battery Estimate declined significantly seemingly after using USB headset adapter.

So I got an adapter to use a wired headset with my phone, it's one of those that allows for both headphone use and charging, though you need to plug in both, but I notice after I tested them out, my estimated battery drain declined all the way down to 9 hours remaining from a charge of 89 percent.
It used to be anywhere from 23 hours to a whole day, did I just break my battery? I'm not in a position where i can replace it if it goes wrong, especially since I just got this a month ago.
Checked it and it doesn't show any apps sucking power, I also disabled various bloatwares to make sure it would run smoothly.
I only had this phone since December and I made sure to charge it when needed, keeping it at around 40-80% charge as much as I could.
Phone is a OnePlus 8 5G, battery drain before was about a whole day before I needed to charge unless I were watching videos, and even with that it still lasted a good while.

It's not a good idea to use and charge the phone as it disrupts the charging curve*. If the screen is off and the device power usage is minimal like listening to music on bt does not interfere with normal charging, at least on my 10+.
Give the phone it's quiet time to charge.
Limit charges to 80% preferable 70% and discharges to 30% preferably 40% to maximize battery life.
Avoid going under 20% or full charges to 100% as it needlessly stresses the battery.
Li's love short, frequent midrange usage like from 40-65%
Li's hate high heat (>100°F) and high cell voltages ie >90% charge.
Avoid charging below 72°F as it can cause Li plating which will permanently degrade it.
Never attempt to charge if below 32°F.
*if you're drawing power whilst charging the device you can not gauge its actual battery capacity. It will charge much slower or maybe not at all.
Stop that you!
Take a 10 or 15 minute break and let get it take a charge.

blackhawk said:
It's not a good idea to use and charge the phone as it disrupts the charging curve. If the screen is off and the device power usage is minimal like listening to music on bt does not interfere with normal charging, at least on my 10+.
Give the phone it's quiet time to charge.
Limit charges to 80% preferable 70% and discharges to 30% preferably 40% to maximize battery life.
Avoid going under 20% or full charges to 100% as it needlessly stresses the battery.
Li's love short, frequent midrange usage like from 40-65%
Li's hate high heat (>100°F) and high cell voltages ie >90% charge.
Avoid charging below 72°F as it can cause Li plating which will permanently degrade it.
Never attempt to charge if below 32°F.
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I don't use it when it's charging, it's a OnePlus with warp charging so I let it sit until it's either full or usually at around the 80 range.
It seemed fine until I tried using this headset adapter, I don't know if these can break the battery in any way so i don't know if just using this messed something up.

MarkiMarko2221 said:
I don't use it when it's charging, it's a OnePlus with warp charging so I let it sit until it's either full or usually at around the 80 range.
It seemed fine until I tried using this headset adapter, I don't know if these can break the battery in any way so i don't know if just using this messed something up.
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If you have fast charging just use the standard fast charging cable to charge it not the daul use one.
The latter may not be recognized by the phone for fast charging, if so it will default to slow charging.

blackhawk said:
If you have fast charging just use the standard fast charging cable to charge it not the daul use one.
The latter may not be recognized by the phone for fast charging, if so it will default to slow charging.
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Warp Charging works yeah, I'm returning the headset cable and replacing it, since i don't know if it messed my system up, and aside from that it's clunky to use.
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It was this thing.
do you think my battery is just messed up at this point or is it fine? Battery estimates used to show 23 hours to a whole day, but now it's down to 9 hours so I don't know if that messed up my battery somehow.

I doubt it messed up the battery especially if it's been only a week or whatever.
More than likely it's a misbehaving apk(s) causing the drain.
If your battery's rated capacity is 1000 mAh and you're only getting 400 mAh out of it, then you have a battery issue. How long it can run doesn't reflect battery condition unless the load is the same as before. So you need to scrutinize it further before making the assumption the battery has deteriorated.
I use two overlay apks (Accubattery is one) that let me see total current draw in near real time. I'm running Pie and doubt these will run in Q.
At idle my draw is an average of 150 ma or so with lows going down to 79 ma. If I see it averaging 300 ma with spikes going to 800 ma at idle I go looking for the cause.

Question Help with the charger - Problem

Hello!
It's been a while since I don't have an Android device (Iphone user lately) and I'm buying this beauty these days.
I have two questions: First, right now the 45w charger is out of stock so should I buy the 25W instead just until I find the best one (expend money).
Two: How shall we charge this device? All night? Just 2 hous like Iphone? Please help me out on this.

25W vs 45W is really just a matter of the time it takes to charge the phone. And right now, available evidence suggests that its not worth it. As for how to charge it? All night is fine, as the phone will stop charging the battery when it is fully charged.

does the phone will stop charging the battery when it is fully charged?

Deiota77 said:
does the phone will stop charging the battery when it is fully charged?
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Yes, that is always the case.
I would recommend buying a 45W (or higher) USB PD PPS power supply. That will work on Samsung devices. But keep in mind: it has to support PPS to allow voltages between something like 5V, 9V, 15V etc. If it is only USB PD, it will only charge at 15W.
I have the Anker Nano II 65W that has PPS, but there is also a 45W version. But that is just one option, there are plenty of other products out there that support 45W USB PD PPS

Deiota77 said:
does the phone will stop charging the battery when it is fully charged?
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LAtest equipment come with a battery health function it basically charges fast up to 80% and then slowly charges the remaining 20% to extend battery life. Once at 100% it won't charge at the same level, reducint the current/voltage.

I really don’t want to damage the battery like it happened with my iPhone (1 year and 89%).
That’s why I’m asking!
Please post your own experiences.

Deiota77 said:
I really don’t want to damage the battery like it happened with my iPhone (1 year and 89%).
That’s why I’m asking!
Please post your own experiences.
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The worst thing for mobile phone batteries is heat. So running the display all the time and gaming are probably the things to avoid. Which unfortunately...Is what most phones are being designed for these days. So don't let the phone get hot, and try to keep the charge level under 80% if you want the battery to really last. But batteries WILL degrade. There is no way around that. The best you can do is try to limit the damage.

Deiota77 said:
I really don’t want to damage the battery like it happened with my iPhone (1 year and 89%).
That’s why I’m asking!
Please post your own experiences.
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Two things kill the battery: heat and high/low voltages
In an ideal world, the Li-ion battery is at around 20°C and stays at around 3.8V.
Use the slowest possible charger whenever you can (5W e. g.)
Avoid fast charging as often as possible
Don't charge past 80% and don't let it drop below 20%
Don't let your phone stay at 100% for too long. Nothing will happen but the high voltage will degrade the battery (like if you leave your device plugged in every night).
In theory you shouldn't charge your device when it's hot and so on but I mean if you live in Spain for example and it is summer. What else are you going to do? So avoiding charging the ambient temperature is too high, is something you can't really do. (Yeah, in Spain most homes to have AC but you get the point )
I have taken care of my OnePlus 7T Pro's battery since I have received it 2 years ago. According to OnePlus Diagnostic it started at around 97% health (new device) and is now at 93%. I almost never charge above 80% and have a Tasker routine to only let it stay at 60% over night and charge to 80% right before my alarm rings. I use ACC (Advanced Charging Controller) for that. But it requires Magisk.
That might be a bit extreme but I have only lost 4% after 2 years and countless battery cycles. Keep in mind that every now and then you should go from 0% to 100% to let the system calibrate the battery so that it accurately reports its charge. This is the only reason why you should do this so that the system knows how much capacity the battery has. And if you mostly stay between 20–80% all the time, it might think that 80% is its max charge and start misreporting the percentage.

Thanks for all that great tips. I think I won't ever buy an extra fast power charger, I'll use a normal one...

is it safe to use 25 watt charger of s 21 TA-800 for charging s22 ultra?

osamaelgabry said:
is it safe to use 25 watt charger of s 21 TA-800 for charging s22 ultra?
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yes, enable fast charging and limit to 85%