Hi,
I noticed that when I recharge it with a charger that is only 650ma the battery last much longer than with turbo charger that came with the phone.
Even in standby after recharged it takes one hour to consume only 1% but after turbo recharging it takes about 10 min to drop 1%.
Is there anyone experiencing something like that?
Funny it is.... The case is opposite for me... Although I use Transomart QC 2.0 charger. My battery lasts longer when I charge it with quick charger compared to standard 1 Amp chargers.
That´s so weird.
I am preparing a comparison to figure out what's happening.
It happens the same here. I've a Aukey turbo charger and the battery drains faster
pesimeao said:
It happens the same here. I've a Aukey turbo charger and the battery drains faster
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I also got Aukey and it's the same
There's no way to actually know the charge (in mAh) of a battery without draining the battery. The way that phones estimate the charge is by measuring the voltage of the battery. Quick Charge 2.0 (supported by the Moto X 2014) uses a higher voltage to charge the battery faster. This can make the battery hit max voltage before it is actually fully charged. That is why Quick Charge always advertises how quickly it gets to 80%. To get to full charge (not just when it shows 100%, but when it is actually fully charged) will take about the same time as a standard charger.
Heat and Turbo charge destroys your battery.
if i turbo charge , my phone will suddenly die when it's between 10-20%. W/ regular charging I get sudden death at 6-8%
i use a moto razr 850mah charger and solved the 8% sud power off, took 2 charge cycles from death to 100% leaving it overnight. Now battery works as it should
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As I've been reading around (can't recall specific scientific data), the faster you charge the battery, the less capacity it can hold. So it makes sense that it lasts longer if you charge it slowly. I don't know how much would be the difference tho.
It is normal in my opinion. Slower charging is also healthier for the battery and usually will last longer
Has anyone ever used a wireless charging pad with the phone. I bought a stick-on one from amazon and it charges fine,,,slower but fine. However, I noticed that it tends to get suck at certain levels and if I take off the wireless charger at say 89 percent,,,it takes less than a min to go to 100 percent charged?
Recomendeed is charge with Motorola original charger of this device, i mean 1150mAh dual port charger
Anyone here with experience of using Motorola's Turbopower 15 wall charger? I'm thinking to buy one, because waiting for 1 hr to charge to 100% is quite annoying.
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I bought a Nokia wireless charger from ATT online store.
It works on my nexus 5, but when the phone is full charged the LED light on the charger is still solid on (on means charging, and blinking means done). However I go to Setting->battery, and it shows battery is full.
My question is which one is right?
-Wireless charger is still charging the phone.
-The system shows battery is full, so the phone won't be charged. But since the charger is Nokia, so it doesn't know my Nexus 5 battery is full.
Thanks in advance
I believe there phone will stop charging the battery buy the charger won't know so it'll keep going. The phone has the circuitry to prevent damage to the phone.
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I purchased (2) tylt wireless chargers from kickstarter a while back and I planned to keep the N5 cradled most of the time.
Unfortunately while the chargers work great they also heat the battery to 110 F while charging as compared to around 80 F with a straight USB charger. I'm afraid this heat will eventually kill the battery. Since the battery isn't easily replaceable I've decided to abandon the wireless chargers.
The batteries and the whole device stays hot after its charged and until I pull it off the charger. I didn't notice whether the charge light actually went out on the charger itself after the charge was completed. If I'm brave or (dumb) enough to try it again I'll report back.
Anyone having better luck with the stock wireless charger or other wireless chargers like the Nokia?
I purchased the same Nokia wireless charging pad, and, despite the LED not turning off on the pad, the battery DOES stop charging once it is full.
This can be observed through a battery monitoring app like Battery Widget Reborn. If you look at the battery graph at any point after the battery hits 100%, and before you remove it from the charging pad, you'll notice an even 2 or 3 percent drop and rise at regular intervals. This is the trickle charge mechanism. Once the battery is full, it stops charging, Once the battery drops down to a certain percentage, the charge resumes, and the cycle repeats itself until you take the phone off of the charging pad.
Same here with another brand on wireless charging pad, I think it's normal
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mxmarcus said:
Same here with another brand on wireless charging pad, I think it's normal
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Are you not concern with premature battery wear considering now it's not user replaceable? Heat is supposedly not good for battery life.
lukas_s said:
I purchased the same Nokia wireless charging pad, and, despite the LED not turning off on the pad, the battery DOES stop charging once it is full.
This can be observed through a battery monitoring app like Battery Widget Reborn. If you look at the battery graph at any point after the battery hits 100%, and before you remove it from the charging pad, you'll notice an even 2 or 3 percent drop and rise at regular intervals. This is the trickle charge mechanism. Once the battery is full, it stops charging, Once the battery drops down to a certain percentage, the charge resumes, and the cycle repeats itself until you take the phone off of the charging pad.
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This really explained me what happens. Thanks !!!
XZ's battery charge time is 2.5 hour from 25%, is it normal?
I turned on battery care mode.
Battery care is turned on?
Mine also came with a slow charger. When I plug it to my portable battery, it can still be pretty fast (and hot...)
With stock UCH 12 charger it takes my phone about 1,5h to get fully charge. 30min to 60% and 1h for the rest. It seems like Sony disabled any type of QuickCharge above 60% to prevent battery damage and it doesnt matter what type of charger you would use alter that - it will stick to 1000mA all the time.
Two things:
1) are you using QuickCharge charger?
2) do you or any of your apps use phone while charging?
Any of those would prolong charging time.
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With stock UCH 12 charger it takes my phone about 1,5h to get fully charge. 30min to 60% and 1h for the rest. It seems like Sony disabled any type of QuickCharge above 60% to prevent battery damage and it doesnt matter what type of charger you would use alter that - it will stick to 1000mA all the time.
Two things:
1) are you using QuickCharge charger?
2) do you or any of your apps use phone while charging?
Any of those would prolong charging time.
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Please see my answer are listed below and thanks
1) are you using QuickCharge charger?
Yep.
The charger is UCH12.
2) do you or any of your apps use phone while charging?
No.
I turned off the phone during charging.
jeffreywen said:
Please see my answer are listed below and thanks
1) are you using QuickCharge charger?
Yep.
The charger is UCH12.
2) do you or any of your apps use phone while charging?
No.
I turned off the phone during charging.
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Try to keep it turned on then. I guess Sony could set offline charging to minimal settings and control QuickCharge with software. Try "Ampere" app to check how many ampers are you getting while charging (download from play store, no root required). It should oscillate from 700mA to 2500mA. If not (e.g. stuck at 1000mA) it means your charger could be defective and should be exchange for new one.
man. I got 75% in an hour while the phone was off :/ using the same charger as yours so there must be a problem, try to change the cable
Guys does anyone know if the USB type-C cable which comes with the non-fast charger is 3.0 Quick Charge compatible?? I've ordered a Anker 3.0 Quick Charge charger just wanted to make sure the cable is.
My case is even worse, tales 3 hours to charge from 13% to 97%
I am even using the newest Sony 3A usb c to c quick charger!
What the hell..
XZ support QC 3.0 so it should be able to charge from 0%(theoretically) up to 100% 1h40-1h50 using a QC 3.0.
During my few weeks i've had this phone (recived with UCH20 charger) i tried to test phone's ability to charge quickly and failed it took usually 2-2h20 min with original charger. I've ordered chinese charger (sony's UCH12W is 4 times more expensive, even samsungs and htc chargers are much more cheaper).
During tests (using ampre) i tried to start charging when battery dropped to 10%. I used 2 charges original UCH20,Tronsmart WC1T and 3 USB-C cables 1x original, 1x unknown chinese, 1x tronsmart(original included with a charger).
Conclusion:
UCH20 is slower, Ampere won't show more than 1560mA 10-60/70% then something around 1100mA and 780 or less 90-100%
WC1T is faster, 10-60% 2220mA (or less depends on throttling/temperature) then about 1500mA to 90% and less than 1000mA (usually 500-800mA) 90-100%
Tested with onvo adaptive charging on, stamina off, wifi on, brightness auto (0-40%), there was no difference betwen cables only unknown chinese cable was slightly slower but that is only my opinion. Battery temperature oscylated between 26-37/38°C(Ampere)
This phone will only fast charge up to 60/70% then it slows down a bit and last 10% is slow, it should preserve battery health yet still allow you to charge it quickly when in a hurry so u can use it for another few hours until you'll get back home and plug it for a night.
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XZ support QC 3.0 so it should be able to charge from 0%(theoretically) up to 100% 1h40-1h50 using a QC 3.0.
During my few weeks i've had this phone (recived with UCH20 charger) i tried to test phone's ability to charge quickly and failed it took usually 2-2h20 min with original charger. I've ordered chinese charger (sony's UCH12W is 4 times more expensive, even samsungs and htc chargers are much more cheaper).
During tests (using ampre) i tried to start charging when battery dropped to 10%. I used 2 charges original UCH20,Tronsmart WC1T and 3 USB-C cables 1x original, 1x unknown chinese, 1x tronsmart(original included with a charger).
Conclusion:
UCH20 is slower, Ampere won't show more than 1560mA 10-60/70% then something around 1100mA and 780 or less 90-100%
WC1T is faster, 10-60% 2220mA (or less depends on throttling/temperature) then about 1500mA to 90% and less than 1000mA (usually 500-800mA) 90-100%
Tested with onvo adaptive charging on, stamina off, wifi on, brightness auto (0-40%), there was no difference betwen cables only unknown chinese cable was slightly slower but that is only my opinion. Battery temperature oscylated between 26-37/38°C(Ampere)
This phone will only fast charge up to 60/70% then it slows down a bit and last 10% is slow, it should preserve battery health yet still allow you to charge it quickly when in a hurry so u can use it for another few hours until you'll get back home and plug it for a night.
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Good post, thanks for sharing,
I ve recently brought Anker PowerPort+1 charger QC3.0 compatible and used stock Sony cable and max output I got was 2180mA max using Ampere too.. What my question is now what should the XZ be drawing max? near 3000mA?? Battery care Off.
Ive ordered PortaPow 20AWG cable it states its also QC3.0 compatible so lets see how much it get and if it makes any difference to the charge times.
I will post my results in the next 2 days.
Sites say that we should keep our battery between 40-80% because charging battery to 100%(And losing till 5-10%) can degrade the capacity of battery.
But Company representatives says that we should charge till 100%.
Can anyone please tell me that till how much we should drop our battery and till how much we should charge it?
Companies like Toshiba and Samsung, have a feature with their laptops to assist in prolonging their laptop battery life called 'Battery Life Extender' which stops charging at 80%.
It is supposed to prolong the life of the battery by avoiding over charging.
For smart phones we have
Quick Charge, Fast Charging, Rapid Charge and other names haven been given to this technology. With the HTC 10, the large 3,000 mAh battery essentially can recharge from 0-80% in just 35 minutes, then it trickle charges the remaining 20% to preserve battery life. The entire phone can recharge from 0-100% in around 75 minutes.
Smart chargers will stop charging at 100% where as computer USB ports 500mA and basic cheap chargers (500mA-1000MA) will keep pushing power to the phone. These should not be left on the charger overnight.
https://youtu.be/v0Rhu2YGxeQ
They say that you should not deep drain your battery, but getting to 0% is not a total deep drain. I get down to self shutdown once a month and perform a 100% full charge to calibrate the battery and % markers.
This has allowed my HTC M8 to run well for almost 4 years.
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GLO said:
Companies like Toshiba and Samsung, have a feature with their laptops to assist in prolonging their laptop battery life called 'Battery Life Extender' which stops charging at 80%.
It is supposed to prolong the life of the battery by avoiding over charging.
For smart phones we have
Quick Charge, Fast Charging, Rapid Charge and other names haven been given to this technology. With the HTC 10, the large 3,000 mAh battery essentially can recharge from 0-80% in just 35 minutes, then it trickle charges the remaining 20% to preserve battery life. The entire phone can recharge from 0-100% in around 75 minutes.
Smart chargers will stop charging at 100% where as computer USB ports 500mA and basic cheap chargers (500mA-1000MA) will keep pushing power to the phone. These should not be left on the charger overnight.
https://youtu.be/v0Rhu2YGxeQ
They say that you should not deep drain your battery, but getting to 0% is not a total deep drain. I get down to self shutdown once a month and perform a 100% full charge to calibrate the battery and % markers.
This has allowed my HTC M8 to run well for almost 4 years.
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So, exactly how much you drop and charge?
Hi Yash24,
I top up my phone in the morning 1.5hrs before I leave for work and finish off in the car.
Im close to 100% and then top it off again on the drive home.
This usually is at 10-15%.
To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the OnePlus 5 can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
It's about not only charging speeds... But also the heat while charging
And in both situations, dash charge is superior to any quickcharge solution i've tested.
I can confirm. Alot faster and still cool battery. It charges with 3 amperes through than with an anker charger that fills your battery with 1.2 amperes through.
Dash charging is the bomb. Even without the Dash charger, the phone charges awfully fast.
lighting fast
Easily gets through a day with heavy usage with plenty of power left in the battery.
Super fast charging speed.
from 5% to 100% at 68 minutes. No limits ROM, bluspark kernel
I don't think my phones ever overheated.
Dash charge works phenomenally well, I've never known a charger this fast.
Problem for me is I have a tonne of other USB-C chargers which even though they have similar voltage and amp output they sometimes charge slowly or normally, so you would need to buy another dash charge to get the same speeds.
I have another charger (Dash) but no second cable, lost it. Using another USB-C cable doesn't allow Dash, so the cable matters too.
I saw a video on youtube with charge speed comparison between flagship phones, one+5 was fastest there (1 hour 13 mins). pixel 2xl there was around 2 hours 40 mins)
啥？
julianalaqrua said:
I saw a video on youtube with charge speed comparison between flagship phones, one+5 was fastest there (1 hour 13 mins). pixel 2xl there was around 2 hours 40 mins)
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wow, that's fast. what about battery health? I heard that quick charge can hurt the battery in few month
joyshvabra said:
wow, that's fast. what about battery health? I heard that quick charge can hurt the battery in few month
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Fast charging only hurts the battery health if it overheats.
xocomaox said:
Fast charging only hurts the battery health if it overheats.
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so this device can't be connected to wall charger more then 2 hours, right ?
sammyalexandro said:
so this device can't be connected to wall charger more then 2 hours, right ?
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The time connected to the charger isn't exactly a factor here. You could leave it on the charger for days and it likely won't get very hot, because it will only be trickle charging it to keep it at 100%.
Now, there are other things that cause battery life issues, but I was specifically referencing excessive heat, which is the number 1 battery killer.
王老吉祥如意 said:
啥？
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Only English is allowed here. Unless you translate it into English as well.
joyshvabra said:
wow, that's fast. what about battery health? I heard that quick charge can hurt the battery in few month
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My girlfriend oneplus 3 after 1.5 year still got 6 h + sot, dash charge is great
If my phone is on, it usually takes an hour or less. Since the last update it has been faster.
DASH charging is super fast, while charging with QC 2.0/3.0 charger or any other charger its reaaaaally slow.
No heating on charging even if i use this beast.
Gets me full charge in around 100 minutes.
Sometimes it charges really quick around one hourin my office (i think power supply in my office is better than my home) but takes 100 minutes at home mostly.
Looking at buying this phone but I'd like to know how the battery life holds up over time with the fast charging. What kind of screen off time do you get after 6 months or a year of using the phone?
I've had it for a year and I have charged it with a slow 1 Amp charger every night. I only use the 65w charger maybe once a month. I haven't had any issues.
I've had the phone for almost a year and I charge it with the 65w charger every day. No issues, battery lasts for as long as it did when it was new.
954wrecker said:
I've had the phone for almost a year and I charge it with the 65w charger every day. No issues, battery lasts for as long as it did when it was new.
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@baxtex
Yeah I just got my 8T today. I did more research and found out they use multiple temperature sensors that will trigger the device to charge slower if it's overheating. They also use 2 batteries in the phone to prevent this heat from happening under normal charging conditions. If it was in the sun or in a very warm room or something I'm pretty sure it would throttle itself based on some of the reviews I found on it. You might have to have adaptive charging on for this but I would assume it's just more aggressive than the regular protections. Pretty sure you could explode your battery with 65w charging in direct sunlight on a hot day. Anyways I think 1A charging is overkill for protecting it. 1A is also not actually not a measurement of current unless you have the volts also. If it's 5V which I think all usb is but I haven't checked since usb-c came out that would be 5 watts. I guess if you leave it on that overnight it doesn't matter though not like it'll hurt anything.