I bought a Nokia wireless charger from ATT online store.
It works on my nexus 5, but when the phone is full charged the LED light on the charger is still solid on (on means charging, and blinking means done). However I go to Setting->battery, and it shows battery is full.
My question is which one is right?
-Wireless charger is still charging the phone.
-The system shows battery is full, so the phone won't be charged. But since the charger is Nokia, so it doesn't know my Nexus 5 battery is full.
Thanks in advance
I believe there phone will stop charging the battery buy the charger won't know so it'll keep going. The phone has the circuitry to prevent damage to the phone.
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I purchased (2) tylt wireless chargers from kickstarter a while back and I planned to keep the N5 cradled most of the time.
Unfortunately while the chargers work great they also heat the battery to 110 F while charging as compared to around 80 F with a straight USB charger. I'm afraid this heat will eventually kill the battery. Since the battery isn't easily replaceable I've decided to abandon the wireless chargers.
The batteries and the whole device stays hot after its charged and until I pull it off the charger. I didn't notice whether the charge light actually went out on the charger itself after the charge was completed. If I'm brave or (dumb) enough to try it again I'll report back.
Anyone having better luck with the stock wireless charger or other wireless chargers like the Nokia?
I purchased the same Nokia wireless charging pad, and, despite the LED not turning off on the pad, the battery DOES stop charging once it is full.
This can be observed through a battery monitoring app like Battery Widget Reborn. If you look at the battery graph at any point after the battery hits 100%, and before you remove it from the charging pad, you'll notice an even 2 or 3 percent drop and rise at regular intervals. This is the trickle charge mechanism. Once the battery is full, it stops charging, Once the battery drops down to a certain percentage, the charge resumes, and the cycle repeats itself until you take the phone off of the charging pad.
Same here with another brand on wireless charging pad, I think it's normal
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mxmarcus said:
Same here with another brand on wireless charging pad, I think it's normal
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Are you not concern with premature battery wear considering now it's not user replaceable? Heat is supposedly not good for battery life.
lukas_s said:
I purchased the same Nokia wireless charging pad, and, despite the LED not turning off on the pad, the battery DOES stop charging once it is full.
This can be observed through a battery monitoring app like Battery Widget Reborn. If you look at the battery graph at any point after the battery hits 100%, and before you remove it from the charging pad, you'll notice an even 2 or 3 percent drop and rise at regular intervals. This is the trickle charge mechanism. Once the battery is full, it stops charging, Once the battery drops down to a certain percentage, the charge resumes, and the cycle repeats itself until you take the phone off of the charging pad.
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This really explained me what happens. Thanks !!!
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Hi Guys,
I have a nexus 5 and I noticed that my LG WCP-300 continue to charge even when the battery is full.
The charger works fine with my Nexus 4, it stops charging when the battery reaches 100% capacity but not with the N5.
I'm wondering will it affect the battery if I keep it on even tho the device says "Charged" ?
Thanks in advance
Interesting. My Nexus 5 just arrived and I'll be curious to see how my LG WCP-700 charger handles charging the Nexus 5 when i get off work.
r0b1n86 said:
Hi Guys,
I have a nexus 5 and I noticed that my LG WCP-300 continue to charge even when the battery is full.
The charger works fine with my Nexus 4, it stops charging when the battery reaches 100% capacity but not with the N5.
I'm wondering will it affect the battery if I keep it on even tho the device says "Charged" ?
Thanks in advance
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I think they finally fixed the wireless charging. My N4 would stop then drain down then start charging again. I never knew if it would be fully charged when I took it off the charger in the morning. I'm certain the battery will not overcharge.
Off topic, what is the use of wireless charging other than not using a wire to charge ?
allyrocky said:
Off topic, what is the use of wireless charging other than not using a wire to charge ?
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That is pretty much it, it just save you plugging the wire.
allyrocky said:
Off topic, what is the use of wireless charging other than not using a wire to charge ?
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Apart from the convenience of just putting down your phone to charge it will save your USB port from damage so if you need to fastboot for repair / warranty / general flashing you know it will be in good condition if the time comes. My galaxy nexus USB port broke, plugged in the charger and noticed it wasn't charging after a while and plugged the plug to see smoke come out the port and the phone was very hot! It may have caught fire if left. So now that phone has a dead battery, luckily its removable so could be charged separately with out the phone. The screen would turn on and drain battery too. I'd fully recommend getting one if you can, I intend on getting one in the future.
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I aslo have the WCP-300 with my Nexus 5. I am experiencing the same thing.
I wonder why they changed the charging. I know my Energizer Qi charger also does this because the charging light always stays lit blue.
Wireless charging on Energizer
I have the energizer charging pad and noticed the same. My Nexus 4 would stop charging and if it fell back to 98% would charge again. The Nexus 5 just stays charging at 100% and I have read that it can damage the battery overcharging like that. Can someone confirm that for sure?
nothing on this?
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Not unique to the charger
r0b1n86 said:
Hi Guys,
I have a nexus 5 and I noticed that my LG WCP-300 continue to charge even when the battery is full.
The charger works fine with my Nexus 4, it stops charging when the battery reaches 100% capacity but not with the N5.
I'm wondering will it affect the battery if I keep it on even tho the device says "Charged" ?
Thanks in advance
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Just for the sake of clarification. The same thing occurs with the Nexus 5 using the Panasonic QE-TM101 which (as above) worked flawlessly with the Nexus 4. So it appears to be the phone (not the charger). And in spite of people assuring us that this won't damage the phone (battery), I can't help but think that the heat can't be good for the battery and if it wasn't "actually" charging after it hit that 100%, then what's generating the heat (it has to be actively charging to create that heat). I plan to do some controlled tests to see if the same problem occurs with my OWL (Qi compatible but not Qi certified) chargers, and see if the charger is cycling on and off during the charge period or staying in charge mode. But every time I've awoke in the morning the Panasonic charger has actually been charging (charge light on) with the handset very warm.
I'm afraid that if it's not cycling then over the long haul the battery (or possibly the phone) may suffer ill effects due to the consistent heat.
I just bought a wireless charger, and it works great...except it seems to stop at 100%. Rather than keeping it topped off, it will start draining after it completes it's charge (i.e. if i wirelessly charge overnight, it will have 85% battery in the morning)
Thoughts? Is this the way the MAXX works, or is my charger defective?
I believe, and dont quote me but, thats the smart battery in the phone that keeps the phone from overcharging.
abcrndm said:
I just bought a wireless charger, and it works great...except it seems to stop at 100%. Rather than keeping it topped off, it will start draining after it completes it's charge (i.e. if i wirelessly charge overnight, it will have 85% battery in the morning)
Thoughts? Is this the way the MAXX works, or is my charger defective?
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If you lose 15% of battery overnight while the phone just sits there, you might have bigger problems than just the charger. But to answer your question, I have the oval shaped Nokia charger pad from AT&T. It will get the battery to 100% and maintain it. If I pick my phone up off the charger after 2 days, it will still be at 100%
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If you lose 15% of battery overnight while the phone just sits there, you might have bigger problems than just the charger. But to answer your question, I have the oval shaped Nokia charger pad from AT&T. It will get the battery to 100% and maintain it. If I pick my phone up off the charger after 2 days, it will still be at 100%
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That's very helpful...my charger must be defective (or just cheap...)
abcrndm said:
That's very helpful...my charger must be defective (or just cheap...)
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The phone when charged to 100%, it will stop charging until the phone reaches arnd 97% then charge back up. And it repeats until u unplug it. It prevents over charging. Also, he is right. If it is at 85%, its either ur charger cannot charge as fast. Or ur phone.
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Hello,
When I charge my Nexus 5, the battery icon keeps on showing it is charging even so the battery is at 100%. Also my USB charger (not the one LG one) indicates that the device is still charging. Is this normal ? Would this damage the battery ?
Thanks
It's normal.
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It's normal.
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Thanks ! (But i just find this weird as I expected a device to stop at 100%)
I understand what you're saying but it's not a charging icon, it's a connected to power icon. If you were to use something like the dashclock extension it would show that it actually stopped charging once it reached 100%
Thanks for the reply.
The thing is that I have this charger http://www.portablepowersupplies.co.uk/portapow-quad-usb-mains-charger/) and the LED indicates charging (albeit I did not measure the current ).
Nice unit!
Are you connected to WiFi while charging? I had the really bad battery drain issue while connected to WiFi after the 4.4.2 update. I lost about 30% of charge after 4ish hours while connected. Currently I'm at 92% after 3 hours.
The WiFi battery drain could be causing your phone to not fully charge or at the very least make your charger THINK it's not fully charged. No harm should come of it either way but it's always best to pull your phone off the charger once it gets to 99-100%
Thanks for the reply. I had Wifi activated; it might be the reason.
My wireless charger LED didn't shut off when my N5 was charged in a powered off state. Usually it does once the battery is full.
That said, I don't think it's over-charging the battery, as that would be really bad
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Don't worry about it. This isn't the 2000s where constant charging is an issue.
Just tried with the Wifi Off. My USB charger then indicates that the unit is not charging.
Thanks for the replies and great help.
Don't worry about it. The charger isn't the thing that determines how charging is handled, it's all done on the phone side. The phone knows how to take and stop taking power.
In the case of the Nexus 5, it most-likely stops charging the battery but continues using the power from the charger to actually power the unit (thereby no-longer using the battery to run the device, but not charging it any longer).
Hi,
I noticed that when I recharge it with a charger that is only 650ma the battery last much longer than with turbo charger that came with the phone.
Even in standby after recharged it takes one hour to consume only 1% but after turbo recharging it takes about 10 min to drop 1%.
Is there anyone experiencing something like that?
Funny it is.... The case is opposite for me... Although I use Transomart QC 2.0 charger. My battery lasts longer when I charge it with quick charger compared to standard 1 Amp chargers.
That´s so weird.
I am preparing a comparison to figure out what's happening.
It happens the same here. I've a Aukey turbo charger and the battery drains faster
pesimeao said:
It happens the same here. I've a Aukey turbo charger and the battery drains faster
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I also got Aukey and it's the same
There's no way to actually know the charge (in mAh) of a battery without draining the battery. The way that phones estimate the charge is by measuring the voltage of the battery. Quick Charge 2.0 (supported by the Moto X 2014) uses a higher voltage to charge the battery faster. This can make the battery hit max voltage before it is actually fully charged. That is why Quick Charge always advertises how quickly it gets to 80%. To get to full charge (not just when it shows 100%, but when it is actually fully charged) will take about the same time as a standard charger.
Heat and Turbo charge destroys your battery.
if i turbo charge , my phone will suddenly die when it's between 10-20%. W/ regular charging I get sudden death at 6-8%
i use a moto razr 850mah charger and solved the 8% sud power off, took 2 charge cycles from death to 100% leaving it overnight. Now battery works as it should
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As I've been reading around (can't recall specific scientific data), the faster you charge the battery, the less capacity it can hold. So it makes sense that it lasts longer if you charge it slowly. I don't know how much would be the difference tho.
It is normal in my opinion. Slower charging is also healthier for the battery and usually will last longer
Has anyone ever used a wireless charging pad with the phone. I bought a stick-on one from amazon and it charges fine,,,slower but fine. However, I noticed that it tends to get suck at certain levels and if I take off the wireless charger at say 89 percent,,,it takes less than a min to go to 100 percent charged?
Recomendeed is charge with Motorola original charger of this device, i mean 1150mAh dual port charger
Anyone here with experience of using Motorola's Turbopower 15 wall charger? I'm thinking to buy one, because waiting for 1 hr to charge to 100% is quite annoying.
Hello,
I have had this tabled for a while and it was always charging extremely slowly but I never took it out of the house so it wasn't a bid deal for me. However I have given it to my mother and she uses it in other ways. Anyways, the note 10.1 is the slowest charging device I have ever seen. It takes probably 48h-72h to charge it completely. I am using the original cable and power brick, I have tried ALL the outlets in my house, I have tried using the computer, I have tried using another cable (probably like 5 different ones) and other bricks (from iPads, my note 5, etc) and nothing is working. I have seen other posts regarding slow charging but none of them solve my problem.
Thank you
Thats is not normal .
I would factory reset and flash a stock rom .
Swap battery or take to a service centre .
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It takes probably 48h-72h ...
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"probably"?
You can't troubleshoot perceptions and guesses. How long does it actually take--repeatably--to charge from what percentage to what percentage? (i.e. "Went to bed, battery was at 40%, charged overnight for 7 hours and battery was at 60%.")
There are apps to check charging current (Ampere being one of them).
The fastest charge you can get is with the OEM charger in an outlet, not a PC.
Understand that this is a 7,000mAh battery without any quick charging applied to it.
Additionally, if you are using the device whilst charging it, you aren't really charging it since the drain is about the same as the charge; you'll effectively neither charge nor discharge.
Finally, check for battery-draining apps; you might not have a charging problem but an app-drain problem.
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"probably"?
You can't troubleshoot perceptions and guesses. How long does it actually take--repeatably--to charge from what percentage to what percentage? (i.e. "Went to bed, battery was at 40%, charged overnight for 7 hours and battery was at 60%.")
There are apps to check charging current (Ampere being one of them).
The fastest charge you can get is with the OEM charger in an outlet, not a PC.
Understand that this is a 7,000mAh battery without any quick charging applied to it.
Additionally, if you are using the device whilst charging it, you aren't really charging it since the drain is about the same as the charge; you'll effectively neither charge nor discharge.
Finally, check for battery-draining apps; you might not have a charging problem but an app-drain problem.
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The time varies, but it is between 2 and 3 days to charge from 0, never less.
I do use the OEM charger and cable and an outlet.
I do understand that but 2 days seems a bit of a stretch, don't you think?
I am definitely not using it while charging, because it's impossible. It just doesn't charge fast enough to be able to use it. It drains quicker than it charges.
I highly doubt that, I only have YouTube and Chrome installed on it.
Above 6 hours with stock rom and charger is abnormal .
Usual replies .
One cable
Two charger
Three battery or connections .
Four USB port
Five motherboard .
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I do understand that but 2 days seems a bit of a stretch, don't you think?
I am definitely not using it while charging, because it's impossible. It just doesn't charge fast enough to be able to use it. It drains quicker than it charges.
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Yeah, 2 days isn't right. It also shouldn't be discharging faster than charging, especially with the OEM charger.
I leave mine plugged into my PC (only 500mA max current) with the screen on (about medium brightness, mostly black screen, which is most power-friendly for OLED) using LectureNotes all day and it will neither charge nor discharge (technically, it's charging at the same rate it is discharging); the percentage doesn't move.
What does Ampere report?
Do you have another charger you could try? any 5V and at least 2A would work.
Also, ensure your cable isn't intermittently open (a break in the cable, temporarily disconnecting the charger).
If the cable and charger are good, then the battery would be the next likely culprit, followed by the charging circuit.
Finally, ensure heat isn't an issue (is it in a case? remove it).
Mine was messed up but I concluded it was the port and cable. I got a new cable and then replaced the charging port and viola. Charge time went from 8 hours back to the usual 3-4