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Should my dad go for N8?

Hey guys, my dad is looking for a new phone. He currently has a 3 year old HTC Herald(A beaten up, broken touch screen, piece of ****) and seriously wants to have a replacement. He loves photography(Always tries to learn new things about his DSLR and improves his photography) so wants a phone that has a good camera. He wants a nice capacitive touch screen with e-mail(G-mail push) and facebook integration and GPS(With maps as well as map tracking) and perhaps some decent time-killer games. Nokia N8 costs about 22-24k INR here and sounds perfect for his needs, his other opinion was Dell Streak but it is about 34k INR plus its future of having gingerbread seems weak. Desire HD/Z are not available here plus they might be quite expensive when they make it here. I got a Desire and he doesn't want to have the same phone(Not that he found it to be bad, but he doesn't want to copy anyone. Plus camera on Desire is something he doesn't like(Not that I do)).
What do you think?

This is a matter of preference and I cant say much about the actual phone BUT after using android symbian just doesn't cut it anymore. But again this is only my opinion.

Agree with Daml...if you want to have also a GPS and maps, what is better than Android? I would stick with google OS instead of Symbian...

My GF has the N97 mini & was looking at N8 as hates the N97s Horrid UI, unfortunatly N8 is not a lot better.
Trying to move her to Android as far better OS than Nokia's bodged efforts at making Symbian touch friendly.
WM5 was better than OS on her N97 mini.

the n8 is a brick.
i played with thae phone. Symbian is wack in my opinion.

Well what would you guys suggest?

My wife has the N8. She likes it. It seems like a solid phone and hasn't given her any problems. Battery life is average, nowhere near her old phone, E71. She chose the N8 because of the ease of migration and the familiarity and she wanted a great camera. I forget where I read it, but the tagline was Nokia made a great camera with cell phone capabilities. It seems to be true. The Ovi Store and Ovi Maps are pretty good.
I can't directly compare with Android though. I prefer winmo and only boot to android for specific tasks or some game play.

Found migration using the Nokia transfer a long way from perfect.
The camera & build are only plus points, OS is simply a pathetic effort for aimed market & price.

Don't ask people on XDA about a Nokia device. You will only get troll and false answers. The only minus about the N8 is the application selection. Buy one to open the eyes of developers.

Seems like this post has been here for almost 2 weeks now so not sure if u have bought ur dad his phone yet.
However, i would disagree with the comments of people above me.
1) What is so bad about symbian^3? i agree that symbian1 sucked due to the inconsistent one and two touch to enter thing but symbian 3 has no such problems at all.
2) n8 offers alot more than just a 12Mp camera! It records in 720p HD, has active noice cancellation.
3) What other phones has a HDMI output? after taking pictures u can even just hook the phone up to a tv
4) I agree that there arent that many games yet, but it already has more than 10 HD games already so far and it's only been about 2 months. EA games are even backing the n8 symbian 3 by creating HD games for them!
hmm what else, i guess it does sell itself with the casing etc. I blive the top andriod atm is samsung galaxy s? The screen is nice indeed, but it has no flash and only 5mp camera, so night pictures are totally out of the picture. but yea try it before buying it! It's a really good phone i reckon, love the GPS on it too. oh and also not to mention the photo editing software that it comes with!

Mister B said:
Found migration using the Nokia transfer a long way from perfect.
The camera & build are only plus points, OS is simply a pathetic effort for aimed market & price.
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oh and btw, i migrated from my n86 to n8 without any problems. All my stuff got transfered over perfectly!

Yeh files migrated after afew attempts but sms dates are changed to date of the transfer which is a bit pathetic.
Had an issue with Thai font turning to squares after transfer, not good as both Nokia devices are Asian market & support Asian fonts so the transfer software appears to have an issue with this !
More customization of transfer options would be good too.
For price & Nokias long running in mobile market I would expect a lot more, the OS is about 3 years behind the compition ! My old WM2003se HTC Magician with Resco Photo Viewer makes an N97 mini photo viewer look completely pathetic, put it next to an iphone or WM6.5.3 OS & it looks like a 1st year students software project.

I'm not a nokia/symbian fan BUT, according with your dad's purposes, i think the N8 sounds exactly like the phone you're looking for.

xdaid said:
I'm not a nokia/symbian fan BUT, according with your dad's purposes, i think the N8 sounds exactly like the phone you're looking for.
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gariec11 said:
Seems like this post has been here for almost 2 weeks now so not sure if u have bought ur dad his phone yet.
However, i would disagree with the comments of people above me.
1) What is so bad about symbian^3? i agree that symbian1 sucked due to the inconsistent one and two touch to enter thing but symbian 3 has no such problems at all.
2) n8 offers alot more than just a 12Mp camera! It records in 720p HD, has active noice cancellation.
3) What other phones has a HDMI output? after taking pictures u can even just hook the phone up to a tv
4) I agree that there arent that many games yet, but it already has more than 10 HD games already so far and it's only been about 2 months. EA games are even backing the n8 symbian 3 by creating HD games for them!
hmm what else, i guess it does sell itself with the casing etc. I blive the top andriod atm is samsung galaxy s? The screen is nice indeed, but it has no flash and only 5mp camera, so night pictures are totally out of the picture. but yea try it before buying it! It's a really good phone i reckon, love the GPS on it too. oh and also not to mention the photo editing software that it comes with!
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I have both a premium android device (mytouch 4g with froyo) and N8. Although it comes down to individual preference, I prefer the android device. The UI is much more user friendly and smooth, theres actually a portrait qwerty keyboard available. The widgets are also much more customisable and easier to use. Additionally, the apps make the android device much more favourable. As a medical student, I find a plethora of medical apps available on Android (almost as many as the Iphone), and even otherwise there are a lot more apps available to make it feel like a true smartphone. It's also the little things that matter, such as the fact that the Android phone automatically syncs your contacts with facebook and twitter profiles of your friends, whereas the N8 does not appear to have this capability.
Admittedly the N8 feels like a lot more sturdy device (has gorilla glass and aluminised body), but I got it largely because of the availability of Ovi Maps (although I like Google Maps, I don't like the idea of needing a data connection everytime I go outside and need it). One other thing is that the N8 is a pentaband 3g device, meaning it would work on 3g networks in virtually every country and with every provider, although to my knowledge there is no such android device. This would be esp useful if you travel a lot (like me). This is something I personally think the people at Nokia should have actually bothered to mention when marketing the device. I mainly keep the N8 to listen to music, and for when I go overseas, but it is not my main device.
Overall, I'd definitely say go with the android device (esp. as the mytouch 4g is a great device).

it's up to you , but i think HTC is better!

Not in the camera department. If you want a camera phone look at samsung, nokia or sony's selection.

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Nexus s or Nokia n8?

Hello dear,
I have one question before I get my new smartphone.
I'm currently using WP7 which is Samsung Omnia 7.
I finally think it's not mature enough to use now in terms of some crucial features and a lack of apps. But actually I like the hardware such as super amoled and 4 inch screen.
Ive been searching for my new handset for few days and it's the time to make a decision.
My priority when I consider new smartphone is screen.
After I've used galaxy s, iPhone 4 and omnia 7, I think I will never get htc devices unless they will have amoled, though I like the sense UI. Because Amoled is one of the best screen ( black is real black.)
Google nexus s has super Amoled as well as Nokia N8(just amoled though)
And second priority is map. Nokia n8 has it's an own map app which is called ovi map.
And it works without wifi or 3G data as it's integrated. It's one of the attractiveness for me actually.
in google market, there must be some navigation apps but they are not free and cannot work without data.
Last thing I care of is multimedia function. I don't know if you guys know that Nokia n8 is called camera phone as it has 12 mega pixel camera. While nexus s has only 5 mp.
And Nokia n8 can connect with hdmi on tv as hdmi cable comes with handset when you get it.
What is the advantage for nexus s compared with Nokia n8?
Can anybody give me some answers or advice for me to decide?

Nexus family of products are showcases for the latest Android state. There are a lot of features that are not released with this phone. FM Radio, for instance.
I like to believe that a Nexus is a more geek friendly phone. People who like to thinker with its capabilities. Trying several ROM, etc, etc... In my opinion it's not a consumer phone, per se.
If you are only interest in the final features. Multimedia, camera capabilities, etc... I advise you to look for more friendly consumer products.

Seriously...? Are you comparing an Android phone with a symbian one? Really? No further comment.

All Android phones have Google Navigation and it works beautifully. While the camera quality of the Nexus S isn't as good as the N8, it still works pretty good in my opinion.
Also Symbian is a dying OS. If you haven't noticed Nokia is committing itself to Windows Phone 7 as their primary OS.
And finally the Nexus S is a whole lot faster and "sexier" then the N8
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N8 has the best camera 12mpx with the real xenon flash. Nexus S will have better gaming experience with better 3D graphics.
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Oh I know the OS is dying but not yet. Still they update the firmware every 3 month.
And as I stated the above, I'm not playing game often and I do care of offline map and multimedia features.
I just want to hear you guys from the advantages on Nexus S compare to Nokia n8.

jorkobe23 said:
Oh I know the OS is dying but not yet.
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Riiiiiight... So it isn't already dead for 1 year or so ? Clearly...
And what's up with the hole offline maps thingie ? You've got Maps 5.0+, which has offline caching, vectorized maps and offline re-routing. What the heck do you want more ? And you wish to sacrifice Android just for this ? Really ?

Size of memory and as I said, multimedia function.
Nexus s camera isn't great I read it from the review.
And I like Samsung made hardware but not camera and speaker.
Is there a hdmi port on nexus s?
All the multimedia features on n8 are the strongest attractiveness for me.
If there are something special things on nexus s, please let me know about it.
I had used android phone such as galaxy s and desire hd but I dislike android system as it looks unstable and fast but not too laggy.
The spec, the number of apps and speed are not important for me. The most important thing is if it is suitable for my needs.
Therefore, please give me some feedback from your experience.

jorkobe23 said:
Size of memory and as I said, multimedia function.
Nexus s camera isn't great I read it from the review.
And I like Samsung made hardware but not camera and speaker.
Is there a hdmi port on nexus s?
All the multimedia features on n8 are the strongest attractiveness for me.
If there are something special things on nexus s, please let me know about it.
I had used android phone such as galaxy s and desire hd but I dislike android system as it looks unstable and fast but not too laggy.
The spec, the number of apps and speed are not important for me. The most important thing is if it is suitable for my needs.
Therefore, please give me some feedback from your experience.
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The camera is more than adequate for taking pictures and video, MP is only really good if you want to blow the picture up to 'x' size. 5MP is more than enough for taking snaps.
No HDMI port, never really had any need for one myself, just chuck my files over onto the PC.
' I dislike android system as it looks unstable and fast but not too laggy.'
Really? Then you have made up your mind already! Its far from unstable or laggy. I came from a Nokia phone, it was all I would buy the last 10 years odd. That was until a friend showed me his Android phone. They really are awesome bits of kit. Symbian? Pah, thats so last gen ;-)

If you want a good camera, symbian, ovi maps than choose the n8 but If you want very good software, much apps, android, big screen etc. than go for the nexus s.

Ice Cream Sandwich BEAM-Feature?

One of the halo features of the Galaxy Nexus and Ice Cream Sandwich is Beam, which via NFC lets you tap two phones together to share a map, image, website, or link to an app. Sure, we got a look at it during the demo this morning, but we decided to track down two Galaxy Nexus devices (or Galaxy Nexi) and see the direct sharing ourselves. As you will see in the video after the break, the transfer of a map and a website was really seamless and to confirm the transfer you are required to tap once on the phone sending the info. There's no confirmation on the receiving phone, you do have to enable the Beam and NFC features in the settings. That seems like a solid amount of protection, and considering you have to physically tap the two phones together, we assume you'd know that something is being sent over to your handset. Hit the break to see it all in action.
Any ideas if this will work with transformer (or is it something that has on the nexus s back "plate" to do?
what do you think about this feature?
Useless ...
Cool!
Yeah beat this windows and apple .... This is the feature don't!
eh WT* is this?

As neat of a feature this is, it will unfortunately not be coming to our beloved tablets as they lack NFC as a whole.

betadan said:
As neat of a feature this is, it will unfortunately not be coming to our beloved tablets as they lack NFC as a whole.
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yeah i just saw that the android beam is only on the upcoming android devices with android 4.0 witch means only nexus prime has it :/

NFC needs another radio ( hardware). Unless the tablet or phone had NFC hardware, it will not work. Just like TF101 does not do 3G. Unless the new TF had the hardware it will not take advantage of this feature. NFC is showing up in phones in prep for payment services. This feature is fairly common in Europe.

I think the feature is awesome n will hopefully add tons of stuff to be able to transfer with it in the future.
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[Q] Will this phone have IR?

So curious to know if this phone will be like all the new top tier phone and offer IR transmitter so we can control TV's and other devices from it?
anyone has any clues?

Aydthird said:
So curious to know if this phone will be like all the new top tier phone and offer IR transmitter so we can control TV's and other devices from it?
anyone has any clues?
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Only speculation. The FCC photo shows a strange cut-out/window in the upper back middle, which led to the speculation, but the recent Service Manual leak had no mention of this hardware and capability.

wideasleep1 said:
Only speculation. The FCC photo shows a strange cut-out/window in the upper back middle, which led to the speculation, but the recent Service Manual leak had no mention of this hardware and capability.
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I had been waiting, I know the LG G2 and original G had them, and Kit Kat is said to improve IR remote control yet they didn't implement it on their new device... Weird

Aydthird said:
I had been waiting, I know the LG G2 and original G had them, and Kit Kat is said to improve IR remote control yet they didn't implement it on their new device... Weird
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It's not that Kit-Kat improved it, they added initial support. Prior to 4.4, all IR phones had proprietary interfaces that were not inter-operable.
Considering these phones are in development for over a year prior to release, IR wasn't even on the table for Google when the HTC One and Galaxy S4 were released. Adding it at that point would have been a dramatic setback on the release, and mostly a pointless one. There's no apps out right now that would even support it (as they all are designed to run on the proprietary IR emitters, not KitKat's).

IR blaster

Are there any (alomst) confirmed news about IR blaster on N5?

It hasn't come up with any of the leaks so it is probably safe to assume it won't have one.

No it won't. Google barely just added remote control support in Android 4.3. Nexus 5 was already built by then. If this is a deal breaker then maybe you should consider the LG G2.