will any of this Knox Void 0x1 will appear in recovery after rooting? or any indication that the device has been Root even after full unroot? thanks
Near_07 said:
will any of this Knox Void 0x1 will appear in recovery after rooting? or any indication that the device has been Root even after full unroot? thanks
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Once you trip Knox there is no way to return to normal - thats it.
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Once you trip Knox there is no way to return to normal - thats it.
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i came from note 4 and it shows up in recovery after rooting, i switch to s8+ i just want to ask if there are similarities like this. how can we know if the s8 knox was tripped. . anyone has screenshots or pics thanks
just power off and turn on with download mode then you will see.
Root trips knox you can check in download mode.
Near_07 said:
i came from note 4 and it shows up in recovery after rooting, i switch to s8+ i just want to ask if there are similarities like this. how can we know if the s8 knox was tripped. . anyone has screenshots or pics thanks
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.. or you can use a 3 rd party app like Phone info+
, easier?
(Play store, there's a free version available )
See screenshot
JE1262 said:
just power off and turn on with download mode then you will see.
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Download mode. Not recovery.
Use volume down instead of up.
The knox efuse is there, if it is tripped it can not be reset.
Do not use apps on the Play Store, Magisk can hide the knox 0x1 when in the OS, but the download mode flag will always be there and can never be reset.
This is recovery, not download mode. You have to press and hold Volume Down + Bixby + Power to enter Download mode.
And you wonder why we have locked bootloaders. People root then see that it voids warranty then they panic.
Skander1998 said:
Download mode. Not recovery.
Use volume down instead of up.
The knox efuse is there, if it is tripped it can not be reset.
Do not use apps on the Play Store, Magisk can hide the knox 0x1 when in the OS, but the download mode flag will always be there and can never be reset.
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thank you i am planning to resell the phone when note 8 comes. maybe i wont root the phone its hard to sell a phone if warranty was void. i hope soon great devs will find ways to reset knox to 0x0 thanks
Near_07 said:
thank you i am planning to resell the phone when note 8 comes. maybe i wont root the phone its hard to sell a phone if warranty was void. i hope soon great devs will find ways to reset knox to 0x0 thanks
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There will never be a way to reset it. It's a hardware thing not software.
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I have purchased k900 recently and I want to root my mobile but I know it will void the warranty. So the question is how to avail the warranty? Do they really check whether the device is rooted or not? Can we just unroot the device and return back to the stock firmware and avail the warranty? I heard latest phones have some mechanism to detect whether the phone is rooted or not and even if we unroot the device they will still know that it was rooted at some point of time. Is it true?
I have already posted this thread in the lenovo k900 sub forum but realised that this question is more of a general sense.
Do anybody have something to say about it?
In some devices yes and in some no
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I have purchased k900 recently and I want to root my mobile but I know it will void the warranty. So the question is how to avail the warranty? Do they really check whether the device is rooted or not? Can we just unroot the device and return back to the stock firmware and avail the warranty? I heard latest phones have some mechanism to detect whether the phone is rooted or not and even if we unroot the device they will still know that it was rooted at some point of time. Is it true?
I have already posted this thread in the lenovo k900 sub forum but realised that this question is more of a general sense.
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In some devices its true that they will come to know.. They come to know from the bootloader.
I m using HTC so i can tell you on that.. after rooting it shows unlocked in bootloader mode.. It can be locked again.. For that a RUU is needed which is stock rom..
From what I read the one who for sure do it is Samsung on the Note 3 (And I think other models but not sure which) they have what's called Knox 0x0 and when you root it it trips it to show Knox 0x1 and as of now I haven't seen a way to undo a tripped Knox but there are ways to root now without tripping Knox but I rooted my Note 3 and tripped Knox but don't really care Lol. But a tripped know will void warranty.
nexx2014 said:
From what I read the one who for sure do it is Samsung on the Note 3 (And I think other models but not sure which) they have what's called Knox 0x0 and when you root it it trips it to show Knox 0x1 and as of now I haven't seen a way to undo a tripped Knox but there are ways to root now without tripping Knox but I rooted my Note 3 and tripped Knox but don't really care Lol. But a tripped know will void warranty.
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Do you know whether trip knox is present in the lenovo devices, particularly in k900 model?
supdup said:
Do you know whether trip knox is present in the lenovo devices, particularly in k900 model?
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I looked around really quick but i didnt see mention of the k900 having something similar to Samsungs Knox.
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I have purchased k900 recently and I want to root my mobile but I know it will void the warranty. So the question is how to avail the warranty? Do they really check whether the device is rooted or not? Can we just unroot the device and return back to the stock firmware and avail the warranty? I heard latest phones have some mechanism to detect whether the phone is rooted or not and even if we unroot the device they will still know that it was rooted at some point of time. Is it true?
I have already posted this thread in the lenovo k900 sub forum but realised that this question is more of a general sense.
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Yes, rooting your device can void warranty, but you would need to be very unlucky. In most cases when you return your device there may be a fault with it and you can simply relock your phone and reflash stock rom before returning device. In other caes you may have bricked your device, i.e. your device does not work at all. This has happened to me and others and when I returned it they never checked. As I said, you would have to be very unlucky for them to void your warranty.....but it is the risk you take
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I have purchased k900 recently and I want to root my mobile but I know it will void the warranty. So the question is how to avail the warranty? Do they really check whether the device is rooted or not? Can we just unroot the device and return back to the stock firmware and avail the warranty? I heard latest phones have some mechanism to detect whether the phone is rooted or not and even if we unroot the device they will still know that it was rooted at some point of time. Is it true?
I have already posted this thread in the lenovo k900 sub forum but realised that this question is more of a general sense.
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My suggestion is: Just do it and forget about the possibility that you are going to need your warranty. On my own experience thinking about the warranty just makes Murphy's Law to come.
nexx2014 said:
I looked around really quick but i didnt see mention of the k900 having something similar to Samsungs Knox.
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Thanks for looking arround. I guess knox is not present in my lenovo phone
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Yes, rooting your device can void warranty, but you would need to be very unlucky. In most cases when you return your device there may be a fault with it and you can simply relock your phone and reflash stock rom before returning device. In other caes you may have bricked your device, i.e. your device does not work at all. This has happened to me and others and when I returned it they never checked. As I said, you would have to be very unlucky for them to void your warranty.....but it is the risk you take
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Thanks. I am currently searching the stock row rom of my mobile.
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My suggestion is: Just do it and forget about the possibility that you are going to need your warranty. On my own experience thinking about the warranty just makes Murphy's Law to come.
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lol, being a lawyer i would agree to that
I am hoping for a rec on a simple debloated ROM that has PRL write enabled and the ability to tether?
Is there anyway to undo the Knox Void (0x1) if I want to go back to stock and return it?
Any advice would be great!
MOAR.. No once you trip knox and get 0x1 you can not reset it (at this time).
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MOAR.. No once you trip knox and get 0x1 you can not reset it (at this time).
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I just found out my knox is 0x1 now. I did not root or do anything to my s6. Updated to 5.1.1 . But there is one thing I am not sure if that will triggered knox.
I set up Find my mobile and on the reactivation lock. After that I tried to boot into recovery to do a factory reset. But it shows the reactivation lock and wasn't able to boot into recovery. So I boot into my phone and turn it off. I was able to factory reset my phone again. After that I tried looking at the info, it says KNOX is 0x1. I am sure before that was 0x0 as I have checked it. Will trying to boot into recovery while reactivation lock is on trigger the knox? Hope someone have information about this. And hope other don't make the same mistake as I do if you do not want to tripped your knox.
My phone wasnt rooted on 5.0.1 and knox was 0x1.. after installing 5.1.1, mine went also to 0x1 ???
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This may actually be good news. If there's a bug in that process, then the Knox warranty bit effectively becomes void for warranty issues. Samsung itself tripping Knox would be fantastic.
Bring your S6 back to Samsung...
r3ferrei said:
This may actually be good news. If there's a bug in that process, then the Knox warranty bit effectively becomes void for warranty issues. Samsung itself tripping Knox would be fantastic.
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You do not loose your warranty by tripping Knox, not in the EU anyway
godutch said:
You do not loose your warranty by tripping Knox, not in the EU anyway
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Any proof? Installing Root or Custom Rom can and will void warranty, as does tripping Knox which requires you to root, in and out of the EU and you will not beat Samsung if you try to contest it as it's set in stone. Modifications to the software or the hardware on a phone will void warranty whether you want to believe it or not.
As to the topic, yes, of course you did nothing to your phone, we believe you
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Any proof? Installing Root or Custom Rom can and will void warranty, as does tripping Knox which requires you to root, in and out of the EU and you will not beat Samsung if you try to contest it as it's set in stone. Modifications to the software or the hardware on a phone will void warranty whether you want to believe it or not.
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I'm in the US so I can't speak from first-hand; but Europe has different laws about warranty void and manufacturer servicing. KNOX has no bearing on whether your phone is warranty void or not in EU, or so says everyone from Europe from the past 2 years since KNOX was released.
Also, 5.1.1 on T-Mobile S6 KNOX is still 0x000, so it might help to post which carrier update is flipping KNOX because it might not be a Samsung issue but more a carrier issue.
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As to the topic, yes, of course you did nothing to your phone, we believe you
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There are actually people that occupy these forums without modifying their phones... shocker. Not everyone pokes their phone internals.
I have brought my phone back to samsung service center. I mentioned to the technician that the KNOX is triggered. He says that doesn't matter. My phone still in FULL WARRANTY. I was having all sorts of problem with my phone like auto shut down, hang, vibrates all of a sudden( like apps are getting error) ..
When I bring it in, they said will try to flash the rom for me, but after 5min waiting, they came out and said it was a hardware problem. I think it's getting a motherboard replacement. Will need a couple days.
PS: BTW, I'm from Malaysia.
Also in reply to Jonathan H "As to the topic, yes, of course you did nothing to your phone, we believe you"
Yes, I haven't tried any root . Else there wasn't any point creating this topic for discussion.
godutch said:
You do not loose your warranty by tripping Knox, not in the EU anyway
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I dont care warranty.. however i want to be able to use S Pay
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AskinSavascisi said:
I dont care warranty.. however i want to be able to use S Pay
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Until S Pay even exists all this BS about S Pay and Knox is just that BS. If you have absolute proof that S pay is affected, then please show the evidence. Otherwise its all hypothetical gobbledygook. Blogs and stuff posted by individuals that have no real clue. The service doesn't even exist yet. Just like Tripping knox voiding warranties at least in the US. I have had my warranty fully accepted after rooting and tripping knox. Seems like there's more old wives tales stuff being stated on XDA now adays then the actual truth. My 2c......
I had my board changed btw, now my knox is 0x0 . It's a newer board manufactured in May too. It's all good now.
Does anyone out of the US tried this activation method? I've found it on youtube. /watch?v=nPg3-3BLIVI
Looks like it's not fake but would this trip Knox Counter or remain intact ? I'm affraid because of Samsung Pay
Please let me know if you try.
I didn't watch the video, cause I don't want to, but does it involve unlocking the bootloader, rooting, and/or flashing custom firmware?
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I didn't watch the video, cause I don't want to, but does it involve unlocking the bootloader, rooting, and/or flashing custom firmware?
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He uses CSCSelections to create a custom firmware.
Mr. Orange 645 said:
I didn't watch the video, cause I don't want to, but does it involve unlocking the bootloader, rooting, and/or flashing custom firmware?
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Yes, your device needs to have a custom "Recovery" i.e "TWRP" which in turn means tripped Knox, 0x1 !
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He uses CSCSelections to create a custom firmware.
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Yes, your device needs to have a custom "Recovery" i.e "TWRP" which in turn means tripped Knox, 0x1 !
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Yup. Then say goodbye to Knox, warranty, and Samsung Pay. TRUST ME, Bixby is NOT worth it. I'm toying with the idea of disabling all of it.
When i go to download mode, I saw "Warranty Void : 1 (0x302)" or something like that (sorry, but I don't hold the phone right now) is this mean the Knox has tripped? i have tried searching on XDA, mostly just said 0x1 mean the Knox tripped, but i saw said 0x500 also mean the Knox tripped, it is just "Warranty Void: 1" need you to look when you want to know if the Knox tripped or the code (0x1, 0x302, 0x500) or the whole line "Warranty Void: 1 (0x302)".
The phone condition is on bootloop, since the owner said he never did something that should tripped the Knox, i little bit confuse. The System status also said Custom. I want to help fix his phone.
Thanks
If system status said Custom and it also says Warranty Void: 1, then yes, KNOX is tripped
Someone rooted / custom recovery'd it
lots of samsung users are looking forward that issue can figure out...
Samsung strongly attacks to who modifies samsung phones...
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If system status said Custom and it also says Warranty Void: 1, then yes, KNOX is tripped
Someone rooted / custom recovery'd it
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thanks for the info, i want to help him fix the phone, i've tried to flashed with some version of firmware but doesn't work, still bootloop, since the Knox already triggered then i'll try using custom recovery or ROM, can you show me some reference thread, since i can't enable OEM unlock and the owner said never do anything regarding system change, i have read some but enable OEM unlock is necessary for any customization.