I just found out my knox is 0x1 now. I did not root or do anything to my s6. Updated to 5.1.1 . But there is one thing I am not sure if that will triggered knox.
I set up Find my mobile and on the reactivation lock. After that I tried to boot into recovery to do a factory reset. But it shows the reactivation lock and wasn't able to boot into recovery. So I boot into my phone and turn it off. I was able to factory reset my phone again. After that I tried looking at the info, it says KNOX is 0x1. I am sure before that was 0x0 as I have checked it. Will trying to boot into recovery while reactivation lock is on trigger the knox? Hope someone have information about this. And hope other don't make the same mistake as I do if you do not want to tripped your knox.
My phone wasnt rooted on 5.0.1 and knox was 0x1.. after installing 5.1.1, mine went also to 0x1 ???
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This may actually be good news. If there's a bug in that process, then the Knox warranty bit effectively becomes void for warranty issues. Samsung itself tripping Knox would be fantastic.
Bring your S6 back to Samsung...
r3ferrei said:
This may actually be good news. If there's a bug in that process, then the Knox warranty bit effectively becomes void for warranty issues. Samsung itself tripping Knox would be fantastic.
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You do not loose your warranty by tripping Knox, not in the EU anyway
godutch said:
You do not loose your warranty by tripping Knox, not in the EU anyway
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Any proof? Installing Root or Custom Rom can and will void warranty, as does tripping Knox which requires you to root, in and out of the EU and you will not beat Samsung if you try to contest it as it's set in stone. Modifications to the software or the hardware on a phone will void warranty whether you want to believe it or not.
As to the topic, yes, of course you did nothing to your phone, we believe you
Jonathan-H said:
Any proof? Installing Root or Custom Rom can and will void warranty, as does tripping Knox which requires you to root, in and out of the EU and you will not beat Samsung if you try to contest it as it's set in stone. Modifications to the software or the hardware on a phone will void warranty whether you want to believe it or not.
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I'm in the US so I can't speak from first-hand; but Europe has different laws about warranty void and manufacturer servicing. KNOX has no bearing on whether your phone is warranty void or not in EU, or so says everyone from Europe from the past 2 years since KNOX was released.
Also, 5.1.1 on T-Mobile S6 KNOX is still 0x000, so it might help to post which carrier update is flipping KNOX because it might not be a Samsung issue but more a carrier issue.
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As to the topic, yes, of course you did nothing to your phone, we believe you
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There are actually people that occupy these forums without modifying their phones... shocker. Not everyone pokes their phone internals.
I have brought my phone back to samsung service center. I mentioned to the technician that the KNOX is triggered. He says that doesn't matter. My phone still in FULL WARRANTY. I was having all sorts of problem with my phone like auto shut down, hang, vibrates all of a sudden( like apps are getting error) ..
When I bring it in, they said will try to flash the rom for me, but after 5min waiting, they came out and said it was a hardware problem. I think it's getting a motherboard replacement. Will need a couple days.
PS: BTW, I'm from Malaysia.
Also in reply to Jonathan H "As to the topic, yes, of course you did nothing to your phone, we believe you"
Yes, I haven't tried any root . Else there wasn't any point creating this topic for discussion.
godutch said:
You do not loose your warranty by tripping Knox, not in the EU anyway
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I dont care warranty.. however i want to be able to use S Pay
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AskinSavascisi said:
I dont care warranty.. however i want to be able to use S Pay
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Until S Pay even exists all this BS about S Pay and Knox is just that BS. If you have absolute proof that S pay is affected, then please show the evidence. Otherwise its all hypothetical gobbledygook. Blogs and stuff posted by individuals that have no real clue. The service doesn't even exist yet. Just like Tripping knox voiding warranties at least in the US. I have had my warranty fully accepted after rooting and tripping knox. Seems like there's more old wives tales stuff being stated on XDA now adays then the actual truth. My 2c......
I had my board changed btw, now my knox is 0x0 . It's a newer board manufactured in May too. It's all good now.
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I have purchased k900 recently and I want to root my mobile but I know it will void the warranty. So the question is how to avail the warranty? Do they really check whether the device is rooted or not? Can we just unroot the device and return back to the stock firmware and avail the warranty? I heard latest phones have some mechanism to detect whether the phone is rooted or not and even if we unroot the device they will still know that it was rooted at some point of time. Is it true?
I have already posted this thread in the lenovo k900 sub forum but realised that this question is more of a general sense.
Do anybody have something to say about it?
In some devices yes and in some no
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I have purchased k900 recently and I want to root my mobile but I know it will void the warranty. So the question is how to avail the warranty? Do they really check whether the device is rooted or not? Can we just unroot the device and return back to the stock firmware and avail the warranty? I heard latest phones have some mechanism to detect whether the phone is rooted or not and even if we unroot the device they will still know that it was rooted at some point of time. Is it true?
I have already posted this thread in the lenovo k900 sub forum but realised that this question is more of a general sense.
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In some devices its true that they will come to know.. They come to know from the bootloader.
I m using HTC so i can tell you on that.. after rooting it shows unlocked in bootloader mode.. It can be locked again.. For that a RUU is needed which is stock rom..
From what I read the one who for sure do it is Samsung on the Note 3 (And I think other models but not sure which) they have what's called Knox 0x0 and when you root it it trips it to show Knox 0x1 and as of now I haven't seen a way to undo a tripped Knox but there are ways to root now without tripping Knox but I rooted my Note 3 and tripped Knox but don't really care Lol. But a tripped know will void warranty.
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From what I read the one who for sure do it is Samsung on the Note 3 (And I think other models but not sure which) they have what's called Knox 0x0 and when you root it it trips it to show Knox 0x1 and as of now I haven't seen a way to undo a tripped Knox but there are ways to root now without tripping Knox but I rooted my Note 3 and tripped Knox but don't really care Lol. But a tripped know will void warranty.
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Do you know whether trip knox is present in the lenovo devices, particularly in k900 model?
supdup said:
Do you know whether trip knox is present in the lenovo devices, particularly in k900 model?
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I looked around really quick but i didnt see mention of the k900 having something similar to Samsungs Knox.
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I have purchased k900 recently and I want to root my mobile but I know it will void the warranty. So the question is how to avail the warranty? Do they really check whether the device is rooted or not? Can we just unroot the device and return back to the stock firmware and avail the warranty? I heard latest phones have some mechanism to detect whether the phone is rooted or not and even if we unroot the device they will still know that it was rooted at some point of time. Is it true?
I have already posted this thread in the lenovo k900 sub forum but realised that this question is more of a general sense.
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Yes, rooting your device can void warranty, but you would need to be very unlucky. In most cases when you return your device there may be a fault with it and you can simply relock your phone and reflash stock rom before returning device. In other caes you may have bricked your device, i.e. your device does not work at all. This has happened to me and others and when I returned it they never checked. As I said, you would have to be very unlucky for them to void your warranty.....but it is the risk you take
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I have purchased k900 recently and I want to root my mobile but I know it will void the warranty. So the question is how to avail the warranty? Do they really check whether the device is rooted or not? Can we just unroot the device and return back to the stock firmware and avail the warranty? I heard latest phones have some mechanism to detect whether the phone is rooted or not and even if we unroot the device they will still know that it was rooted at some point of time. Is it true?
I have already posted this thread in the lenovo k900 sub forum but realised that this question is more of a general sense.
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My suggestion is: Just do it and forget about the possibility that you are going to need your warranty. On my own experience thinking about the warranty just makes Murphy's Law to come.
nexx2014 said:
I looked around really quick but i didnt see mention of the k900 having something similar to Samsungs Knox.
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Thanks for looking arround. I guess knox is not present in my lenovo phone
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Yes, rooting your device can void warranty, but you would need to be very unlucky. In most cases when you return your device there may be a fault with it and you can simply relock your phone and reflash stock rom before returning device. In other caes you may have bricked your device, i.e. your device does not work at all. This has happened to me and others and when I returned it they never checked. As I said, you would have to be very unlucky for them to void your warranty.....but it is the risk you take
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Thanks. I am currently searching the stock row rom of my mobile.
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My suggestion is: Just do it and forget about the possibility that you are going to need your warranty. On my own experience thinking about the warranty just makes Murphy's Law to come.
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lol, being a lawyer i would agree to that
I've searched high and low and I'm not able to find a non-tripping version of root. I don't want any fancy roms just rooted stock. Help.<br/>
Nope no way to keep Knox as of now.
But the root method that's out there. Will just flash a recovery and root. It's shouldn't f change the system image. (I could be wrong but last I check.)
I like to keep Knox just in case I need to exchange the phone for any reason
Whats the best method if you have a USA AT&T note edge?
Looking for a way to root without tripping Knox as well...
Someone should start a pledge thread for it, that should get the devs interested...
Beach_Head said:
Looking for a way to root without tripping Knox as well...
Someone should start a pledge thread for it, that should get the devs interested...
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Probably won't come for a while since not alot of devs have the phone yet.
NitroSS said:
Whats the best method if you have a USA AT&T note edge?
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There is no current way to root the N915A. AT&T has it locked and so far no one has bothered to try to get it unlocked to achieve root.
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In the same boat witha 915FY , willing to chip in if needed.
I'm sure I read it somewhere, just can't remember ATM....but there is a way to reactive Knox After rooting correct? I have the tmobile n915t.
strboy said:
I'm sure I read it somewhere, just can't remember ATM....but there is a way to reactive Knox After rooting correct? I have the tmobile n915t.
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Dont think so mate... else what would be the point ? or even the hold up here ? just root and reset ?
If it were possible it woulda been announced by now i guess...
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I'm sure I read it somewhere, just can't remember ATM....but there is a way to reactive Knox After rooting correct? I have the tmobile n915t.
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As I understand it, KNOX flag is basically written as a "fuse". Once it's triggered, there's no going back.
And everyone, for the love of all things good and pure, AT&T and Verizon have locked bootloaders and there are NO root methods currently available. KNOX is irrelevant.
Finally, for anyone wondering about a non-KNOX-tripping method for actually ROOTABLE devices, nope. Not yet as far as I know. But why? Carriers still service phones that have the flag tripped.
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As I understand it, KNOX flag is basically written as a "fuse". Once it's triggered, there's no going back.
And everyone, for the love of all things good and pure, AT&T and Verizon have locked bootloaders and there are NO root methods currently available. KNOX is irrelevant.
Finally, for anyone wondering about a non-KNOX-tripping method for actually ROOTABLE devices, nope. Not yet as far as I know. But why? Carriers still service phones that have the flag tripped.
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In theory yes , you still get serviced but that mostly depends on the IQ of the person on the other end.
Im currently in Portugal. I took my note 3 to service and the knox was tripped . Battery Issue. They refused . I called customer service. They refused.
"If you tampered with the device, its your own fault"
I explained in other countries its still serviced , in France for example.
"this is not other countries , this is not France."
I have a 915FY now and , if possible , I would like to avoid this situation.
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In theory yes , you still get serviced but that mostly depends on the IQ of the person on the other end.
Im currently in Portugal. I took my note 3 to service and the knox was tripped . Battery Issue. They refused . I called customer service. They refused.
"If you tampered with the device, its your own fault"
I explained in other countries its still serviced , in France for example.
"this is not other countries , this is not France."
I have a 915FY now and , if possible , I would like to avoid this situation.
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Hmm I see. I wasn't aware of that issue. The service centers here have seen that the KNOX flag is tripped on my devices and still serviced them. All I can say is, pretty much everything that works for the note 4 (except roms) has been compatible with the edge (including root tools, TWRP, recovery-flashable mods, system file tweaks, etc.), so if any progress is made on finding a non-KNOX-tripping method, you're gonna see it on the Note 4 forums first. I'd keep an eye on that for any updates concerning your model.
I was hoping Geohots work on TowelRoot might be adapted somehow for 4.4.4 and eventually used for Note4/edge.(it stopped working for anything over 4.4.2 i was told)
I heard hes working for google now so he cant help anymore...
siriom said:
I was hoping Geohots work on TowelRoot might be adapted somehow for 4.4.4 and eventually used for Note4/edge.(it stopped working for anything over 4.4.2 i was told)
I heard hes working for google now so he cant help anymore...
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Towelroot was only ever supposed to work on the S5. That it worked on anything else at all was chance. Anyways, it hasn't been updated in ages so don't hold your breath. If you really need root, I'd just go with one of the available methods. If you need it serviced, flash a stock ROM, go to a service center for your carrier, and act stupid. Don't start talking about root and all that. That has worked 100% of the time for me. When you took it in for service in the past (when they didn't service it) was your phone still rooted or have a custom recovery installed?
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I am leasing the Sprint S6 edge and when my lease is over, i will have to give the phone back to sprint. Anyways, my question is ..... should i not root this then? Is there a way to completely revert to stock and leave no trace that i rooted?
Thanks!
Yes
jkt97401 said:
Hello,
I am leasing the Sprint S6 edge and when my lease is over, i will have to give the phone back to sprint. Anyways, my question is ..... should i not root this then? Is there a way to completely revert to stock and leave no trace that i rooted?
Thanks!
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You will also have the option to buyout the balance on the phone and keep it at the end of your lease.
jkt97401 said:
Hello,
I am leasing the Sprint S6 edge and when my lease is over, i will have to give the phone back to sprint. Anyways, my question is ..... should i not root this then? Is there a way to completely revert to stock and leave no trace that i rooted?
Thanks!
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You can root via pinpong root and you won't trip knox. You'll only trip knox once you flash custom recovery.
jkt97401 said:
Hello,
I am leasing the Sprint S6 edge and when my lease is over, i will have to give the phone back to sprint. Anyways, my question is ..... should i not root this then? Is there a way to completely revert to stock and leave no trace that i rooted?
Thanks!
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Knox will be tripped but Sprint doesn't check that anyway, as I've turned in about 3 Samsung devices with knox tripped in the past with no problems
Thank you guys. I'm the past has there been a way to reset knox? What exactly is knox? I have never owned a Samsung.
I'm a former HTC fanboy lol
Edit : I'm sure glad i researched what knox is! Someone give me the scoop, how do you Samsung flashaholics do it? Is it possible to flash a custom rom without tripping knox?
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Thank you guys. I'm the past has there been a way to reset knox? What exactly is knox? I have never owned a Samsung.
I'm a former HTC fanboy lol
Edit : I'm sure glad i researched what knox is! Someone give me the scoop, how do you Samsung flashaholics do it? Is it possible to flash a custom rom without tripping knox?
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The whole knox thing is worse than it sounds. As @Soooperstar mentioned, Sprint may not really enforce it as some may think. Rooting has become much more prevalent these days. Sprint knows it. I hear lots of guys mention that they've turned in knox tripped devices without incident. As of today, you need a custom recovery in order to flash a rom. Come on in, the water's warm.
Hello. I want to root my phone, and I know that if I do it, the knox counter will be tripped, so no Samsung Pay and no warranty anymore. I don't care about that. There is no Samsung pay in my country and the warranty is already lost.
But what about My Knox and FRP lock? Do I loose that forever too? or only while my phone is rooted?
Thanks in advance!
My Knox relies on an intact Knox counter so rooting and tripping it will cause issues with that. Frp should still work I think.
You'll lose My Knox forever, but you can use FRP lock while not rooted.
I have read a lot about Samsung KNOX and how it is supposed to work, but the more I read the less I know how KNOX is tripped.
I understand what KNOX is, I know how it works and I know the supposed "reasons" it exists.
I also do know, that KNOX has changed a couple of times in the past years, which is perhaps the reason I find to much conflicting information on this topic.
So, since the A51 is quite a new phone, I want to know, how KNOX is tripped on the Galaxy A51.
Is unlocking the bootloader already enough?
Can you unlock the bootloader but flashing anything will make it trip?
What exactly is allowed with the newest KNOX and at which point does it exactly trip?
Can you not modify anything anymore, without tripping KNOX?
since Knox requires a separate login even after phone boots up i would guess it is not accessible with just a booted up and unlocked phone. last i read it created an additional "encrypted sandbox" on the already unlocked phone where data did not cross the sandbox barriers.
Aki-to said:
I have read a lot about Samsung KNOX and how it is supposed to work, but the more I read the less I know how KNOX is tripped.
I understand what KNOX is, I know how it works and I know the supposed "reasons" it exists.
I also do know, that KNOX has changed a couple of times in the past years, which is perhaps the reason I find to much conflicting information on this topic.
So, since the A51 is quite a new phone, I want to know, how KNOX is tripped on the Galaxy A51.
Is unlocking the bootloader already enough?
Can you unlock the bootloader but flashing anything will make it trip?
What exactly is allowed with the newest KNOX and at which point does it exactly trip?
Can you not modify anything anymore, without tripping KNOX?
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Unolocking the bootloader isn't enough to trip Knox, it trips once you flash a modified file.
Like TWRP, a ROM, etc that doesn't have Samsung's signature of official software.