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Root without tripping Knox?

I've searched high and low and I'm not able to find a non-tripping version of root. I don't want any fancy roms just rooted stock. Help.<br/>

Nope no way to keep Knox as of now.
But the root method that's out there. Will just flash a recovery and root. It's shouldn't f change the system image. (I could be wrong but last I check.)
I like to keep Knox just in case I need to exchange the phone for any reason

Whats the best method if you have a USA AT&T note edge?

Looking for a way to root without tripping Knox as well...
Someone should start a pledge thread for it, that should get the devs interested...

Beach_Head said:
Looking for a way to root without tripping Knox as well...
Someone should start a pledge thread for it, that should get the devs interested...
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Probably won't come for a while since not alot of devs have the phone yet.

NitroSS said:
Whats the best method if you have a USA AT&T note edge?
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There is no current way to root the N915A. AT&T has it locked and so far no one has bothered to try to get it unlocked to achieve root.
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In the same boat witha 915FY , willing to chip in if needed.

I'm sure I read it somewhere, just can't remember ATM....but there is a way to reactive Knox After rooting correct? I have the tmobile n915t.

strboy said:
I'm sure I read it somewhere, just can't remember ATM....but there is a way to reactive Knox After rooting correct? I have the tmobile n915t.
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Dont think so mate... else what would be the point ? or even the hold up here ? just root and reset ?
If it were possible it woulda been announced by now i guess...

strboy said:
I'm sure I read it somewhere, just can't remember ATM....but there is a way to reactive Knox After rooting correct? I have the tmobile n915t.
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As I understand it, KNOX flag is basically written as a "fuse". Once it's triggered, there's no going back.
And everyone, for the love of all things good and pure, AT&T and Verizon have locked bootloaders and there are NO root methods currently available. KNOX is irrelevant.
Finally, for anyone wondering about a non-KNOX-tripping method for actually ROOTABLE devices, nope. Not yet as far as I know. But why? Carriers still service phones that have the flag tripped.

jooniloh said:
As I understand it, KNOX flag is basically written as a "fuse". Once it's triggered, there's no going back.
And everyone, for the love of all things good and pure, AT&T and Verizon have locked bootloaders and there are NO root methods currently available. KNOX is irrelevant.
Finally, for anyone wondering about a non-KNOX-tripping method for actually ROOTABLE devices, nope. Not yet as far as I know. But why? Carriers still service phones that have the flag tripped.
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In theory yes , you still get serviced but that mostly depends on the IQ of the person on the other end.
Im currently in Portugal. I took my note 3 to service and the knox was tripped . Battery Issue. They refused . I called customer service. They refused.
"If you tampered with the device, its your own fault"
I explained in other countries its still serviced , in France for example.
"this is not other countries , this is not France."
I have a 915FY now and , if possible , I would like to avoid this situation.

siriom said:
In theory yes , you still get serviced but that mostly depends on the IQ of the person on the other end.
Im currently in Portugal. I took my note 3 to service and the knox was tripped . Battery Issue. They refused . I called customer service. They refused.
"If you tampered with the device, its your own fault"
I explained in other countries its still serviced , in France for example.
"this is not other countries , this is not France."
I have a 915FY now and , if possible , I would like to avoid this situation.
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Hmm I see. I wasn't aware of that issue. The service centers here have seen that the KNOX flag is tripped on my devices and still serviced them. All I can say is, pretty much everything that works for the note 4 (except roms) has been compatible with the edge (including root tools, TWRP, recovery-flashable mods, system file tweaks, etc.), so if any progress is made on finding a non-KNOX-tripping method, you're gonna see it on the Note 4 forums first. I'd keep an eye on that for any updates concerning your model.

I was hoping Geohots work on TowelRoot might be adapted somehow for 4.4.4 and eventually used for Note4/edge.(it stopped working for anything over 4.4.2 i was told)
I heard hes working for google now so he cant help anymore...

siriom said:
I was hoping Geohots work on TowelRoot might be adapted somehow for 4.4.4 and eventually used for Note4/edge.(it stopped working for anything over 4.4.2 i was told)
I heard hes working for google now so he cant help anymore...
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Towelroot was only ever supposed to work on the S5. That it worked on anything else at all was chance. Anyways, it hasn't been updated in ages so don't hold your breath. If you really need root, I'd just go with one of the available methods. If you need it serviced, flash a stock ROM, go to a service center for your carrier, and act stupid. Don't start talking about root and all that. That has worked 100% of the time for me. When you took it in for service in the past (when they didn't service it) was your phone still rooted or have a custom recovery installed?

Branding removal

Will it and how will it be possible to remove the branding of any service right from the start without voiding any warranty? Sorry if this is still unknown or basically the same for every Android phone...

Not clear on what you're asking. Do you mean remove the boot logo and pre-installed apps for a particular carrier? Both of those will require you to flash a different ROM or parts of a ROM.

Averix said:
Not clear on what you're asking. Do you mean remove the boot logo and pre-installed apps for a particular carrier? Both of those will require you to flash a different ROM or parts of a ROM.
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Yeah like in Germany installing a DBT on a phone shipped with ATO (which is quite a common situation in Germany). Are there any ways?

Not until more people get then in hands and we see if we can root and flash them.
The we will know

I am sorry to tell you although I was asking you but I found out that you seem to not be right. Several threads are about this subject (well not concerning S8+ but any other Samsung Galaxy) and if you flash another official ROM via Odin it (OF COURSE as they say) does not void your warranty and does not trip the KNOX counter. If you know anything else to pay attention to in this subject, well, feel free to enlighten me :good:

Mystixor said:
I am sorry to tell you although I was asking you but I found out that you seem to not be right. Several threads are about this subject (well not concerning S8+ but any other Samsung Galaxy) and if you flash another official ROM via Odin it (OF COURSE as they say) does not void your warranty and does not trip the KNOX counter. If you know anything else to pay attention to in this subject, well, feel free to enlighten me :good:
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That would be flashing a different ROM as I stated in the first answer...

Averix said:
That would be flashing a different ROM as I stated in the first answer...
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Yes excuse me I wasn't referring to you but you do agree with me on the warranty not being voided?

Magisk v14 - does it offer root without tripping Knox?

Hi guys
Magisk v14 has been released and it now offers installation without using custom recovery and still avaialble to use OTA's - does this mean I can root with Magisk (which it says is done by ADB) without tripping Knox? Description is below
"New Installation Method
Nearly a month ago, I introduced a way to install Magisk through ADB. This is nice for devices with no custom recovery support, or for people like me who wants to preserve stock recovery to apply OTAs. To make things even easier, I have added this feature natively into Magisk Manager. In Magisk Manager you can provide your stock boot image (in both raw image format or tar-ed up ODIN flashable format), the app will then patch the provided image. Other required files and scripts are extracted within the app's data, and will be picked up automatically while booting up once with a magisk patched boot image. Check the new instructions in the OP for more info.
Once your device has Magisk installed, you can install Magisk modules through Magisk Manager without custom recoveries. The powerful systemless interface means that you can literally do anything to your device - of course systemless-ly!"

I'm also interested in this. Hope someone knows if we can finally get root without tripping Knox.

Exactly.... if so then it really is the best of all worlds in my eyes

No, absolutely not. It still mods the boot.img which requires an unlocked bootloader. As soon as you unlocked the bootloader and it detects anything custom (Does not matter how it got there, if it's there, it's there) it will trip the fuse.

But doesn't the g955f already have an unlocked bootloader.. hence why it was easier to root before the g955u?

Knox is secure. It is only secure because the phone is not modified.
If you could root the phone and still use Knox then you (or someone else) could hack Knox. Do you want that?

RR-99 said:
Knox is secure. It is only secure because the phone is not modified.
If you could root the phone and still use Knox then you (or someone else) could hack Knox. Do you want that?
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meddylad said:
But doesn't the g955f already have an unlocked bootloader.. hence why it was easier to root before the g955u?
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It's bootloader doesn't work the same way a normal bootloader does. It still detects anything custom and will trip Knox if it does.
If you don't check the OEM Unlock option in settings, your phone will brick because the bootloader is locked. If you do check it, it's unlocked but still checks for custom firmware which then trips Knox.

Interceptor777 said:
It's bootloader doesn't work the same way a normal bootloader does. It still detects anything custom and will trip Knox if it does.
If you don't check the OEM Unlock option in settings, your phone will brick because the bootloader is locked. If you do check it, it's unlocked but still checks for custom firmware which then trips Knox.
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through "embedded flash"
can be ignored Knox

And I got my hopes up for being able to root this phone I'll be getting in my post this week... Well, two years without root on that one it'll be unless some genius finds a way.

Interceptor777 said:
It's bootloader doesn't work the same way a normal bootloader does. It still detects anything custom and will trip Knox if it does.
If you don't check the OEM Unlock option in settings, your phone will brick because the bootloader is locked. If you do check it, it's unlocked but still checks for custom firmware which then trips Knox.
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The G955u doesn't trip Knox with root, but it's system level because of the locked bootloader. What it does break though is SafetyNet which kills Samsung Pay and such.

I really need the auto recording feature which is blocked in my country. So need to root this without tripping.

Relock the boot loader for Samsung s8+ please help.

Hi, thanks for everyone who would like to help me, I've rooted my phone s8 plus ages ago, and I didn't like it, coz I need the bank app and android pay works again, so after flash it with stock Rom of Ee network, I've installed android pay and doesn't want to work keep telling me, your phone rooted and your bootloader unlocked, ive tried to find a solution, and I used ADB and it isn't working for me ... is there any other solution please?? Thanks

Nope...

ultramag69 said:
Nope...
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Relocking won't bring back apps that need Knox to be 0x0. If you flaahed a custom boot image to use systemless root then your counter is permanently at least 0x1

Real Clarification on Samsung KNOX

I have read a lot about Samsung KNOX and how it is supposed to work, but the more I read the less I know how KNOX is tripped.
I understand what KNOX is, I know how it works and I know the supposed "reasons" it exists.
I also do know, that KNOX has changed a couple of times in the past years, which is perhaps the reason I find to much conflicting information on this topic.
So, since the A51 is quite a new phone, I want to know, how KNOX is tripped on the Galaxy A51.
Is unlocking the bootloader already enough?
Can you unlock the bootloader but flashing anything will make it trip?
What exactly is allowed with the newest KNOX and at which point does it exactly trip?
Can you not modify anything anymore, without tripping KNOX?

since Knox requires a separate login even after phone boots up i would guess it is not accessible with just a booted up and unlocked phone. last i read it created an additional "encrypted sandbox" on the already unlocked phone where data did not cross the sandbox barriers.

Aki-to said:
I have read a lot about Samsung KNOX and how it is supposed to work, but the more I read the less I know how KNOX is tripped.
I understand what KNOX is, I know how it works and I know the supposed "reasons" it exists.
I also do know, that KNOX has changed a couple of times in the past years, which is perhaps the reason I find to much conflicting information on this topic.
So, since the A51 is quite a new phone, I want to know, how KNOX is tripped on the Galaxy A51.
Is unlocking the bootloader already enough?
Can you unlock the bootloader but flashing anything will make it trip?
What exactly is allowed with the newest KNOX and at which point does it exactly trip?
Can you not modify anything anymore, without tripping KNOX?
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Unolocking the bootloader isn't enough to trip Knox, it trips once you flash a modified file.
Like TWRP, a ROM, etc that doesn't have Samsung's signature of official software.