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[Q] HTC 7 Pro Stutter/Choppy Performance

Hi Guys,
Just picked up a brand new HTC 7 Pro to replace my Omnia 7 so I can get all the hacking goodness offered by a HTC handset
The only problem I'm having with it is the speed of the OS. Everything is really slow and choppy. Something that was like butter on the Omnia.
I understand the Omnia is using NAND rather than SD card for the OS, but simple gestures like scrolling up/down the home screen & list of apps are slow. And there is a noticible performance lag during the animation when clicking on an app (e.g. Settings) and when swiping left to right on a pivot.
I've updated the handset to Nodo and removed all the live tiles - even put it into flight mode - and I'm still having the same issue.
Anybody else have the same problem on theirs? Would replacing the stock SD card make a difference?

I know this won't be much help, but my htc arrive seems pretty smooth. Then again, I've never owned an Omnia 7 so whatever perceived differences there are I wouldn't know.
On the matter of the SD card, it's possible it could and you could always try, but my guess is that the latency and seek times would be so small in differences as to be roughly the same.

Thanks Scott. Thing is,its not always slow. A lot of the time it is perfect but the other day I was downloading pes2011 from the marketplace and I went to check my email - this was when it was at its worst. The animation to the home screen took about 3 seconds to complete! Once the download had finished, even during install, it was perfect again.
That's why I thought it may be an SD card issue. And believe me, if yours was doing what mine is, you would notice it
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Blade0rz said:
Thanks Scott. Thing is,its not always slow. A lot of the time it is perfect but the other day I was downloading pes2011 from the marketplace and I went to check my email - this was when it was at its worst. The animation to the home screen took about 3 seconds to complete! Once the download had finished, even during install, it was perfect again.
That's why I thought it may be an SD card issue. And believe me, if yours was doing what mine is, you would notice it
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Oh well if that's the case maybe replacing the sd card would be worth a try because now it sounds more like a real issue.

Hey, I kind of know where you are coming from. Ill tell you that the performance on mine was smooth as can be. Though a month later... not so much anymore. I have a feeling it has to do with programs installed. I would be pretty sure a hard reset would cure it!
As for changing the SD card. I have read a lot into this. Doesnt seem like anyone has found a card that works faster than the current one, just higher capacity ones.
Having read how different cards work in different phones, you cant just go for a high class one and expect it to work. The SanDisk 32gb Class 2 is the best spoken for upgrade on our phone. Wont do much if anything for speed though. There is 2 threads on it if you can be bothered reading into it. But I summed it up for you

shezza84 said:
Hey, I kind of know where you are coming from. Ill tell you that the performance on mine was smooth as can be. Though a month later... not so much anymore. I have a feeling it has to do with programs installed. I would be pretty sure a hard reset would cure it!
As for changing the SD card. I have read a lot into this. Doesnt seem like anyone has found a card that works faster than the current one, just higher capacity ones.
Having read how different cards work in different phones, you cant just go for a high class one and expect it to work. The SanDisk 32gb Class 2 is the best spoken for upgrade on our phone. Wont do much if anything for speed though. There is 2 threads on it if you can be bothered reading into it. But I summed it up for you
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Thanks for this! Funny enough, it's stopped being a major issue on my phone. I have a feeling it's because I didn't give it a full charge when I took it out of the box.
Once I charged it til the LED was green, things seem to be very smooth again. From time to time, doing a large amount of downloading will slow it down but not as bad as it was before.
Obviously, I'm still going to change the SD card for the 32Gb

Video playback stopped working (Fixed?)

Recorded a video which seemed to go fine. Tried to play it back and got nothing but a black screen. So, tried playing a YouTube vid. Same thing, just a black screen. Tried a Watch preview, black screen. Tried a Flash video in the browser, same deal. Reboot, try again, still black. ??????????
Figured I'd be doing a factory reset, formatting the SD, who knows?
So, shutdown, pull battery, pull and re-seat the SD a couple of times, reboot. Now video plays fine again in all of the above apps.
Just an FYI.
Edit: Last night I turned off the phone and charged it overnight. Tried playing video this morning and the problem is back. Nothing but a black screen in all video playback. Going to format the SD and see if that helps.
No one else has seen this?
Update: Formatted SD yesterday morning, since then video has played perfectly.

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U played via the YouTube app or? Tried to play any other HD videos?

McT1980 said:
U played via the YouTube app or? Tried to play any other HD videos?
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Tried playing a vid I recorded on the phone, as well as YouTube, Watch, and flash in the browser. All just show a black screen.

Yes, with three factory fresh T-Mobile phones and SIM cards.
I can't trace it to anything in particular, but I am not letting it update itself. I am NOT an Android or HTC expert. And once it happens, the video playback is trashed until I do a factory reset.
T-Mobile tech support said this is a KNOWN issue, they have many identical complaints, and the best they can offer is to wait for FW fix.
A factory reset will fix the issue with all playback sources I have tried, but I can't tie it down to what triggers it. Rumors include Flash Player other than what is stock, YouTube app, etc., as well as an obscure sound notification checkbox in settings.
You can't just "re-choose" or "confirm" your phone as the player either - that did not work for me. T-Mobile knows its an issue, for whatever comfort that gives you.
Interestingly, it never makes the camera malfunction for snapshots.
Tough call, since HD recording is a huge selling point of this phone. I have not tried to download a video to my computer to see if it plays. I can't assume it is corrupted since it may have been playing fine all along, but I probably should check.
Also, other media players can't seem to play it either in the phone, but I am no expert their on choices.

Savage1701 said:
Yes, with three factory fresh T-Mobile phones and SIM cards.
I can't trace it to anything in particular, but I am not letting it update itself. I am NOT an Android or HTC expert. And once it happens, the video playback is trashed until I do a factory reset.
T-Mobile tech support said this is a KNOWN issue, they have many identical complaints, and the best they can offer is to wait for FW fix.
A factory reset will fix the issue with all playback sources I have tried, but I can't tie it down to what triggers it. Rumors include Flash Player other than what is stock, YouTube app, etc., as well as an obscure sound notification checkbox in settings.
You can't just "re-choose" or "confirm" your phone as the player either - that did not work for me. T-Mobile knows its an issue, for whatever comfort that gives you.
Interestingly, it never makes the camera malfunction for snapshots.
Tough call, since HD recording is a huge selling point of this phone. I have not tried to download a video to my computer to see if it plays. I can't assume it is corrupted since it may have been playing fine all along, but I probably should check.
Also, other media players can't seem to play it either in the phone, but I am no expert their on choices.
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Interesting.
I called HTC and they diagnosed it as a bad SD card. Shipping me a new one under warranty.

Called TMO and the CSR looked up known issues and this wasn't on her list. So, some conflicting info apparently from TMO.
Did a reformat of the SD and video is working for now. But then just popping the SD last night fixed it until this morning. So, we'll see.
I've ordered a 16Gb SD, and will be getting a replacement 8Gb from HTC, so will have a couple of cards to play with. I hope it's a flaky SD, since that's easily fixed.

Goto Settings>Sounds
And turn off Audible Selection.
See if that works.
Its working for me.
I had the same issue until I did it.
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lozonw said:
Goto Settings>Sounds
And turn off Audible Selection.
See if that works.
Its working for me.
I had the same issue until I did it.
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Audible Selection was already turned off. So, not the cause in my case.

guys hit the power button and select restart it will close all apps and playback will work again

phonegod said:
guys hit the power button and select restart it will close all apps and playback will work again
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So is "Restart" more like removing the battery? I did try a power off/on yesterday and it didn't fix the problem. Then resorted to popping the battery and SD, which did temporarily fix it. But based on a post in another thread, and the slower boot, it appears a restart is actually a more thorough reset than power off, which seems backwards. If so, good to know.
Regardless, having to reset the phone to make vids play is not acceptable. The real problem needs to be identified by HTC and fixed.

samnada said:
So is "Restart" more like removing the battery? I did try a power off/on yesterday and it didn't fix the problem. Then resorted to popping the battery and SD, which did temporarily fix it. But based on a post in another thread, and the slower boot, it appears a restart is actually a more thorough reset than power off, which seems backwards. If so, good to know.
Regardless, having to reset the phone to make vids play is not acceptable. The real problem needs to be identified by HTC and fixed.
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yes restart closes all apps and make things work again i did let htc know and they said they will escalate the problem to the proper resources to be fixed in and update they also told me the sensation will be getting a update before august

Update: Since I formatted my SD card yesterday morning video playback has worked perfectly. Will update again as needed.
Update2: Now I really have a black screen. Phone totally died this morning. Went to TMO store and swapped batteries, nothing. Door nail. Called TMO and it will be a week before I can get a replacement.

samnada said:
Update: Since I formatted my SD card yesterday morning video playback has worked perfectly. Will update again as needed.
Update2: Now I really have a black screen. Phone totally died this morning. Went to TMO store and swapped batteries, nothing. Door nail. Called TMO and it will be a week before I can get a replacement.
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wow your phone died i would tell them never mind keep this **** because the phones not holding up to its purchase

phonegod said:
wow your phone died i would tell them never mind keep this **** because the phones not holding up to its purchase
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I really like the phone. Best phone available in the US for me. So, don't want to kiss it goodbye quite yet.
What I don't like is the replacement policy. TMO CSR told me all the stores are privately owned, and aren't actually part of T-Mobile. Since I purchased through Customer Care over the phone the store won't do a replacement. Ok, but they could ship me a replacement right away for a confirmed at the store dead phone, and charge my credit card full retail price if I don't return the bad one. Two hours on the phone and waiting a week for a replacement isn't a positive customer experience.

Well, something got changed with mine because none of that stuff worked for me, but now I no longer have issues with video. My rep said it was known. We did try the "Audible Selection" possibility but no help. I had to do a factory reset.
Maybe a flash issue, maybe a small FW push, I don't know.
I'm too new to Android to hack around and see, coming over from the Windows 6.5 crowd.
We'll see, but I think at going on 3 weeks if it was going to fail it would by now.

camera won't save

hey guys! i got the skyrocket as a christmas present along with an otterbox case. i have this theory that otterbox cases make the phone pretty hard to break so we went to the park with a three-man water balloon slingshot and put my phone in it while recording. we shot it up and it landed in a pile of wood chips (around a tree). i picked up the perfectly fine phone and every works perfect except the camera.
i can take pictures/videos but when i press the preview box to see them, it says "No Items" but the weird thing is the amount of time i can video tape goes down.
it was saving to my sd card, but neither saving to my phone or sd card works. the gallery worked this morning (and i uploaded the video), but after a reset it doesn't work again.
a full phone wipe is NOT an option until i can back up my phone with my pictures which could be tomorrow morning
i can't post the video because i am too new to the form but after 8 posts maybe you guys could see it

I'm sorry, but that was a very stupid thing to do... just saying.
Now as for your problem. If it won't save, that's not a hardware issue. That's a software issue.
Have you tried viewing the photos/videos through the gallery app?

iandr0idos said:
I'm sorry, but that was a very stupid thing to do... just saying.
Now as for your problem. If it won't save, that's not a hardware issue. That's a software issue.
Have you tried viewing the photos/videos through the gallery app?
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i know it was stupid, and i will never do it again, even though my phone is almost fine.
as for the gallery, here is how it goes. when i first went to gallery almost everything loaded, then i pressed back and reloaded and less and less appeared until only instagram photos, which continue to stay. this morning gallery and camera worked perfectly until i turned my phone off for a test
thanks for the quick reply and maybe a full reset would be the only answer

Yeah. That is definitely software. Very strange though...
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Had this happen, unmounted the SD card and remounted and rebooted. Haven't had the problem since.

So you put your phone in a slingshot too?
I tired unmounting/remounting then reboot but it still doesn't work. Almost all my photos are on Dropbox so I think I will just do a titanium app backup then factory reset

No I wouldn't dream of putting it in a slingshot lolz. It also may be worth it to try another micro sd card if you have one. Could be a corrupt sd? There's a few fixes out there for this, just do a generic google search for the problem. Hope the factory reset works out for yah.
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Does the computer mount the sd card when you plug it in usb...
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Camera and Video app issues.

Hello there,
I would like to know if some other users are having issues with tha pictures and video apps and what solutions if any. I received my nre Z3 and from the very first time I started tu use it I'm having serious issues. The issue is that everytime I turn on the phone's camera the phone turns very hot, it also constantly freezes out and the camera app crashes. It happens for pictures and for videos. I already own a Xperia Z1 device and know how to use the camera and settings and knoe that this is not normal. I tested the camera with the lower screen brightness possible and also with and external SD card with the same results. For worsen the situation, after being taking family pictures for the last 2 days, the pictures and videos started to become not accesible nor visibles. At the moment when the pictures were taken they were visible, but after a while, some of them can't be opened anymore. This firstly happened during the afternoon for some pictures taken during the morning, then later, 3 more. It has continued damaging pictures. Right now the device has did the same to 20 pictures and videos from nearly 50 taken. I rebooted the phone, restarted and also reset the phone and it is still showing the same bahavior. This phone has not been rooted and has been kept as it was when received. I never had these issues before with other phones. It is a D6603, running Kernel version 3.4.0-perf-g0961 cdf, build 23.0.A.2.93. Any fixes or suggestions? Is it real that this unit comes with factory unlocked bootloader? Could it be a software issue regardless hardware?

A couple of things in there immediately hinted me about your SD card, I mean not all your issues seems to be that but about the videos and photos been there and then don't is a symptom of a bad sd card.
Just to see what happens put another card, if you don't have it, just remove it and save everything to your internal storage and try a couple of videos and pictures again to see what happens and let us know.

I highly doubt it comes with an unlocked bootloader, but this does sound like a bad SD card. You could also try using a different camera app, although personally I don't think that will help much.

erasat said:
A couple of things in there immediately hinted me about your SD card, I mean not all your issues seems to be that but about the videos and photos been there and then don't is a symptom of a bad sd card.
Just to see what happens put another card, if you don't have it, just remove it and save everything to your internal storage and try a couple of videos and pictures again to see what happens and let us know.
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I tested with and without the use of an external sd card and I'm having the same issues. At least using the phone's internal memory I haven't lost any more pictures for now. I'll test during the day, but the phone's still getting very very hot and the camera freezes and app crashes.

djmobil2 said:
I tested with and without the use of an external sd card and I'm having the same issues. At least using the phone's internal memory I haven't lost any more pictures for now. I'll test during the day, but the phone's still getting very very hot and the camera freezes and app crashes.
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That's exactly what I thought, and the reason I wanted to split your issues in 2, it's easy to relate one to the other and confused about it, but now that you know that are 2 separate things it's easier for you to approach it.
First, your SD card may be one of the thousands of fake 32 or 64 GB generic cards around (and even "Branded" ones, China is getting better by day on that department), they behave just like that, I just got another one of these last week, so don't waste any more time on it, it won't never pass from about 4GB of maximum storage, even when in your computer or phone it shows as a 32/64GB card it will allow storage for up to 4GB and then simply begins giving you all those issues.
About your phone getting warmer or hot while in the Camera App, this is an old issue with Sony Devices, it's more common on hot places like for us down here in the Caribbean, the first day I tried my D6633 it did that, I tried it a couple of times and the same, don't ask me how, but it got better, a lot better, to the point that hasn't happened to me again, only thing I did, as far as I can remember was using the Manual modes, and disabling the AR Effects and Fun Apps, the same 2 that while using them was the first time my phone got hot.
YMMV but it worth a try, obviously if you live in a hot weather place, using the 4k video feature will bring you the warning and it's normal that it will get warmer than when using regular features, but other than that, for me, not even a single occurrence after I disabled the AR stuff.

Repeated Micro-SD Mounting Notification Issue - Potential Fix

Alright friends. The Micro-SD notification issue that a startling number of people have been having. I have also been suffering this issue and did not want to believe it was hardware based. I have believed since the beginning, that this is an issue with doze settings killing power to the internal SD slot. I managed to track down what I believe to be the offending service that doze is messing with. Follow the instructions below to fix this:
1. Go into system settings and select 'battery'
2. From the battery settings, select 'battery usage', and within battery usage, select 'more' at the top right of your screen
3. Select 'optimize battery usage' within 'more', and switch the drop down in the next screen from 'apps not optimized', to 'all apps'.
4. Locate the 'External Storage' service, and set the slider next to it into the off position. This keeps doze from messing with this.
5. Make sure 'External Storage' shows up in the list of apps that are not optimized now - Profit
I have been using this for the last 24 hours and have had absolutely zero SD mounting/unmounting notifications outside of the required one when you reboot your device. I really hope this works as well for everyone else in here as it worked for me.
Please let me know if this setting works for everyone else in the thread below this OP.
MODS: Please pardon if I have placed this thread in the wrong section. I didn't see anything else related to a solution in any of the other selections, so I figured I would share these steps which seem to be working for me.
Thanks all.
PS: I do not know if it matters or not, but I advise a format of the SD card as well through the storage settings on your device. I did that after following the above steps as well.

This might also be applied to alarm apps to fix problems with them failing to go off.
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Tried this before bed last night. Didn't format sdcard though, dont see what that would do. Anyway, woke up this mornin to an sd card notification :/ one thing i did notice though, instead of the screen slooowly fading on when turned on, it instantly turns on now. So it's definitely affecting something.

Worth a shot. Nice find!

I disabled battery optimization weeks ago and still got the SD card notifications. This isn't the issue. I'm 99% convinced this is a hardware issue.
In regards to alarm apps. Yes turn off battery optimization for them.
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Thanks for the feedback guys! Yes. I did receive a notification over the night while I was sleeping as well. The notification that happens over night is the only one I am receiving now though. I definitely consider this an improvement. I can live with one a day (not including if you reboot the device). I was getting the SD ejection/reconnect notification no less than 10-15 times an hour or so before this. I suspect that the external storage still goes into a low power mode or something when the phone is left in a state of prolonged inactivity such as during the night while we are sleeping. I am not sure if there is anything that we can do about that particular problem from our end though. I am admittedly not savvy enough to dig into the code.
I suspect that wonky/overly aggressive doze/optimization settings are to blame for a few issues that people are having with this device. I have noticed that the optimization settings are a bit of a mess. Go through and see what else y'all can figure out as well by tweaking these things. Feel free to keep the thread going with those findings.
I wonder if this is just how doze treats external storage....I wouldn't know. I have been a primary Nexus user for a while before the S7 Edge (still have a 6P as well) and as you know. There isn't any external storage in that line to 'optimize'...Lol

jrwingate6 said:
I disabled battery optimization weeks ago and still got the SD card notifications. This isn't the issue. I'm 99% convinced this is a hardware issue.
In regards to alarm apps. Yes turn off battery optimization for them.
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Interesting.....did you also turn optimization off for SystemUI as well? I have noticed a marked improvement by disabling optimization for both SystemUI and External Storage. I have what seems to be one of those problematic Vietnamese originated models.
I have a replacement coming in the mail and I will test both for a few days before sending one back to T-Mobile

For any in here who were interested about a follow-up. I have since received and switched out my devices. My new device is now 24 hours in, and not a single SD notification, excepting the one at the time of device reboot.
@jrwingate6 might be correct about the hardware thing.
I haven't messed with optimization settings either on this one. It just works.
I did still notice a marked improvement with the optimization settings tweaks on the device that was having the issues though

This is without a doubt 100% hardware related. I advise anyone having this issue to replace the device ASAP.

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This is without a doubt 100% hardware related. I advise anyone having this issue to replace the device ASAP.
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I totally agree with you after my experience between my device purchased on release day, and the one I have now.

I got an early release too and was the first to make a post on this issue and no one knew what I was talking about. Long story short, I had to get a replacement and have not had that issue with this new phone

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This is without a doubt 100% hardware related. I advise anyone having this issue to replace the device ASAP.
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lol i even taped the crap out of the sd card, and it got worse
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so how exactly did we come up with doze being the issue?
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went ahead and asked for replacement on live chat. have had s6 replaced once before never said anything about $5 exchange fee till now

It can be a faulty SD card or a non Samsung one that isn't playing nice with the S7 Edge.
My fiancée and I both have the S7 Edge and we both have the Evo+ (64gb from Samsung) and we DO NOT get any SD card notifications other than when we reboot our phones.
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I'll add this to the mix:
S7 edge silver on vzw. Have been getting the notification a dozen times a day.
So I put lots of music on the SD and set it to continuously shuffle through (with the volume all the way down). Not once during the play has the notification shown up. Also hasn't shown up while transferring massive files onto this SanDisk 200GB.
If I actually eject the SD during playback, PowerAmp stops playback and doesn't resume when the card is reinserted. So I know the notification is not from the card being physically disconnected in the slot, because the music plays for hours on end in shuffle.
This supports the doze theory because the active read would keep the storage manager from sleeping.
So to make this a hardware problem, we need a hardware defect where the card is repeatedly identified as being inserted, but only when data is not being transferred to/from the card.
However, this does not explain reports of replacement phones not having the notification issue. Unless those users are configuring the replacement differently than the original.
Anecdotally, has anyone seen the S7 trigger a card notification while read/write to the SD was executing?
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I do not have my s7 edge until mid week but did you guys try going into app info for the SD card mounting app or service and turning off notifications?
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I do not have my s7 edge until mid week but did you guys try going into app info for the SD card mounting app or service and turning off notifications?
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Yeah dude. That doesn't work this time around. The notifications still happen. The only way I found to get a marked improvement on this matter (outside of an outright exchange) is to turn off the doze setting for External Storage. This seems to dramatically improve things, but not make it perfect. I gave up the good fight about a week ago or so and had a replacement shipped to me. I haven't had a single issue with the SD notification since in the new device, and my setup is exactly identical to my original device. The only difference is that I haven't had to mess with the doze settings.

the only fix. tell your customer rep you have unmounting/mounting issues and you have done factory reset/ clear cache. tried 2 or 3 different SD card or tried SD card on another phone and it works. have them replace the phone and done. had tmobile replace my phone, fastest ever. got it in 2 days and i live in hawaii! 2 days usually means 4 or 5. but no SD card notification for 3 days now. only get it on restard

I used to only get it on reboot and now it's 2-3 times a day. Wonder if it's just the sim tray? I'd rather shell out a few bucks for one than buy a whole new screen protector and dbrand skin. Lol
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I posted earlier (above) trying to explain why this could be a software problem, but it isn't. It's hardware. Swapped out the S7 edge at the about 12 day mark with VZW and got a new phone. SD notification only on restart now. Rep asked if the phone was losing the SIM as well.
Anyone noticed also that the new posts of SD problems stopped about two weeks ago? Because they fixed it after the initial run.
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I just ordered a replacement because of this issue, it does seem like i am having slight network performance issues as well. We shall see.