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so today was a good day. for one i was blessed to wake up this morning and to top it of i held a ATT FUZE in my hand. it was the best 10 plus minutes in my life while i was wearing clothes lol. yes people i was at the store today in Milford, CT. the sales associate there had a test model. and i must say it is everything you would have guessed it would be. first off both the stores i went to in the Milford, CT area said the phone will be available the first week in november. so the oct. 23 date is a farse. the guy at the store named weel call "joe the plumber" (cause he is so famous these days) said he had his training on this past tuesday. and most likely the phone will be in his words. "the same price as the tilt when it came out or price competativaly with the iphone. with the rebate if u get the data upgrade." im probally not going to say any thing about the phone you dont know but it reafems the fact that it is real and is as good as advertized. and in the Milford store i was told i was the only person to ask about the phone so i should be the only one with it for a while. im the 1st person in the list for the saleperson. i cant wait for that call in november.
the phone= it self has the diamond back like the unlocked version. i dont know i asked why cause sprints diamond has a soft touch back and he said "the test group didnt like that feture." but i said if ur typing on the table the phone will wiggle cause of the uneven back. i think att was lazy and told htc to change the keyboard and ship the phone out. lol. and the phone is so light. the tilt is a brick compared to this phone. i currently hava lg cu500 and it is bout .25" taller and not much thicker. and that is good cause you get a ful keybaord.
the keyboard= lost the upper top row of just numbers. but it has a lot of quick bottons for text and internet and such. also has a phone style number pad on the keyboard. the keys felt nice and the sliding was smooth. and the screen responded nice. though the accelerometer was not as resposive as he iphone when you moved the phone when viewing webpages. but the zoom was sick.
the camera= i didnt really take pics but the pics he toke and had on the phone was clear. he also showed me the card reader program. with this program you take a pic of a bussines card and it scans the info and make a new ocntact on your phone. it toke like 15 sec for it to scan i thought it froze but it was understandable and still amazinfg when all the info was pust in the correct name, address, etc. sections on the screen. the touch flo with pics are amazing and the screen is so nice. the phone had a led flash if i remember correct. i was so distracted by the pretty screen and touch flo i didnt take time to look much at the buttons and such on the phnone. but i temember a white/yellow thing below the camera lense.
what the phone comes with. the phone i looked at was a test phone so jow said all he got in his black unmarked box was cd, phone, usb, and charger. i know when i went to the sprint store in Hamden, CT where i live and looked at the diamond it came with that and a holtster, air buds, screen protector. i hope att add these things cause for the price i kinda expect it, and htc makes them for the unlocked phone so it should happen.
touch flo was sick. it works as adverticed. they obviously added a att store tab. the pics scrooled nice, and the music player was cool. the contact was scroolable too. i mean everything that you already know is there.
so in closing. the 1st week in november is the date to look for. not this oct 23 but im ok with being proved wrong lol. please excuse and grammer errors. the price should be $300- $400 with the rebate. its not the iphone so they are not going to make there money of volume. and if i remember correct it is a dark red color. i hope this was helpfull to someone cause i was excited when i saw it. though i played it cool. lol Thanks
BobMarley2k9
That's a loooong story... Here's mine:
Bought one on eBay, had it for 3 weeks, sold for $100 more than I paid, it was fun. The end.
yes i have heard your story many times. i have been reading his site for a whole now. i was simply trying to give a full experience for those that care to read it. im sorry your attention span is limited. ill make my post shorter next time.
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BobMarley2k9 said:
yes i have heard your story many times. i have been reading his site for a whole now. i was simply trying to give a full experience for those that care to read it. im sorry your attention span is limited. ill make my post shorter next time.
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Jeez, don't get your panties in a bunch, loosen up a bit. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings.
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yes i have heard your story many times. i have been reading his site for a whole now. i was simply trying to give a full experience for those that care to read it. im sorry your attention span is limited. ill make my post shorter next time.
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I don't know if he was trying to be pejorative with his reply, but I enjoyed your long post and its little details.
I'm a bit disappointed with the ATT version of this phone from all accounts. There are really two big things for me. First, the top row of keys would be far more useful had it been left alone as numbers in my opinion. I'm sure I'll get used to it if I end up buying the Fuze, but it's still a disappointment.
The second issue is really just an annoyance, which may end up being completely null in the end. It's the Diamond back, and how prone to wobbling it seems it will be. However, without a tilting screen it is unlikely I would ever really be typing on it while on flat surface anyway (in fact, I normally pick up my Tilt to type even with the tilting screen). And ever since discovering Pocket Controller Pro I'm even less likely to even touch my phone while it's on my desk. So maybe the positives of the aesthetic Diamond back actually outweigh the probably minor negatives of its functionality.
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I don't know if he was trying to be pejorative with his reply, but I enjoyed your long post and its little details.
I'm a bit disappointed with the ATT version of this phone from all accounts. There are really two big things for me. First, the top row of keys would be far more useful had it been left alone as numbers in my opinion. I'm sure I'll get used to it if I end up buying the Fuze, but it's still a disappointment.
The second issue is really just an annoyance, which may end up being completely null in the end. It's the Diamond back, and how prone to wobbling it seems it will be. However, without a tilting screen it is unlikely I would ever really be typing on it while on flat surface anyway (in fact, I normally pick up my Tilt to type even with the tilting screen). And ever since discovering Pocket Controller Pro I'm even less likely to even touch my phone while it's on my desk. So maybe the positives of the aesthetic Diamond back actually outweigh the probably minor negatives of its functionality.
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It's odd, my Fuze actually sat on a table and stayed in one position, didn't lean either way, just sat there with the way the back was. I had no problems with it. Also, I'm surprised to see you didn't like the symbols on top, most people I've spoken with (myself included) like the functionality of the symbols. Oh well, to each their own.
Which store in Milford? I used to live there but i'm in college in NYC now. At the Post mall or next to the Starbucks and stuff?
yes the one in the mall. the one by starbuks had a guy that was going for the training but as far as i know there was no test phone at that store. which is weird cause that is the bigger store.
and also i did test typing with the diamond back and it in fact did wobble when typing on a flat surface. though ur right u probably would just hold it rather than type on a flat surface.
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Can you guys please tell me:
Did the phone make that shutter noise when you took a picture?
I find that noise annoying when using a camera.
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Can you guys please tell me:
Did the phone make that shutter noise when you took a picture?
I find that noise annoying when using a camera.
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Even if it does, you can remove it.
With 3rd party software or with a feature that is built-in?
There are countries passing out laws that a camera on a phone must make that noise so people in the area know a photo is being taken. I was just wondering if AT&T Fuze was on that list.
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With 3rd party software or with a feature that is built-in?
There are countries passing out laws that a camera on a phone must make that noise so people in the area know a photo is being taken. I was just wondering if AT&T Fuze was on that list.
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if the phone is on silent it wont or im sure you can do a tweak or registry change anyway
all right, thanks!
A friend of mine got the nokia n82 with a 5 MP camera. The problem that he finds with it is that the camera makes that noise through the speaker when he takes a picture with it. Even when his phone is on silent or when his headphones are plugged in. I don't think he's found a tweak for it yet.
I was just wondering if it was the same with the Fuze. If anyone who has it can confirm it, it will be greatly appreciated.
when "Joe" toke the picture for the business card it did make a flash sound. though i dont know if the feature can be turned off. but like posted before im sure someone here will be able to fix that no prob.
and on a side note has anyone got any new on the android OS working on the fuze.
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and if i remember correct it is a dark red color.
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Woah... I was unaware of this. The ATT Fuze is dark red in color? As in, not black but dark red or is that optional?
Damn, just googled Milford, CT, and it would be an hours drive... Guess I'll have to wait until release to play with the Fuze
P.S. To the guy with the camera questions, every HTC phone that I know of has had the option to turn off the camera sound...
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Woah... I was unaware of this. The ATT Fuze is dark red in color? As in, not black but dark red or is that optional?
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That's the same question I was about to ask. When you say dark red, do you mean as in the Blackjack II?
yes i do mean a dark red like the black jack II. it was ruby, dark burgundy color. i maybe mistaken cause i was blinded by the sole fact that i has the phone in my hand. lol
ill probably go look at i again this weekend or today. but i dont want to seem like that weird customer that comes in and never buys anything. i work sales and i hate that BS. lol
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It's odd, my Fuze actually sat on a table and stayed in one position, didn't lean either way, just sat there with the way the back was. I had no problems with it. Also, I'm surprised to see you didn't like the symbols on top, most people I've spoken with (myself included) like the functionality of the symbols. Oh well, to each their own.
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Well there are two reasons I would prefer the numbers. First of all, it's more like an actual computer keyboard. That would make it more comfortable and normal feeling - at least in theory. Second - and more importantly - I type numbers more often than I type symbols. Having the convenience of not needing to press the function key would be very nice.
I suppose it could go either way though. I'm definitely going to try out the keyboard before I buy, and I'll likely try out the Sprint version (or unlocked HTC version, if I can get my hands on one for a few minutes without purchasing it) also just to make sure. With a fifth row, I'm sure it's an improvement over the four rows on my Tilt no matter which configuration though, so it's not even close to a deal breaker. Just a little disappointment.
Out of curiosity, why would you prefer symbols? I really can't think of a reason why they would be better than numbers, so I'm wanting to know from someone who has that opinion.
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Well there are two reasons I would prefer the numbers. First of all, it's more like an actual computer keyboard. That would make it more comfortable and normal feeling - at least in theory. Second - and more importantly - I type numbers more often than I type symbols. Having the convenience of not needing to press the function key would be very nice.
I suppose it could go either way though. I'm definitely going to try out the keyboard before I buy, and I'll likely try out the Sprint version (or unlocked HTC version, if I can get my hands on one for a few minutes without purchasing it) also just to make sure. With a fifth row, I'm sure it's an improvement over the four rows on my Tilt no matter which configuration though, so it's not even close to a deal breaker. Just a little disappointment.
Out of curiosity, why would you prefer symbols? I really can't think of a reason why they would be better than numbers, so I'm wanting to know from someone who has that opinion.
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i think most people don't mind the number PAD because you can press Fn twice to do a number lock. And since the numbers are grouped together, theoretically it's easier to type series of numbers...ie. phone number
i didn't like the fact that 5th row # was removed (they added that 5th row for THAT REASON!), but then I can see other people's point as well...oh well, i've come to accept that fact, as long as Fuze doesn't make us wait any longer
I'm trying to like this phone but this screen has serious issues. I'm always accidentally selecting stuff when swiping. At other times it won't select anything on the first or second try. Seems like I really have to push hard for it not to lose the "progress" of a swipe. Bad phone or am I not the only one?
Seems to be no settings that could make this better...
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I'm trying to like this phone but this screen has serious issues. I'm always accidentally selecting stuff when swiping. At other times it won't select anything on the first or second try. Seems like I really have to push hard for it not to lose the "progress" of a swipe. Bad phone or am I not the only one?
Seems to be no settings that could make this better...
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Nope, you're not alone, I'm having the same issues with mine. I also find that the keyboard is not as accurate when texting. I've never had a problem typing before but with this phone i keep having to go back and correct almost every word I type. I'm wondering if the new Gorilla Glass 5 has anything to do with it? My wife's S7 Edge with the Gorilla Glass 4 doesn't seem to have these issues and just seems much more responsive overall.
I thought it was my film screen protector causing the issue. I usually use the glass screen protectors. Definitely selecting while swiping and less accurate keyboard for me too.
Screen scratches very easy, breaks very easy and is less sensitive. This is an upgrade? Big fail Samsung!
Same here. Once I got used to it, it's not that bad for me though.
Hopefully it's something Samsung/Sprint can fix with an update.
Update.
I factory reset my phone this morning. When setting the phone up this time I did not use my Samsung account to restore settings but just the Google settings from my account.
All seems to be well now.
No real complaints now.
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Update.
I factory reset my phone this morning. When setting the phone up this time I did not use my Samsung account to restore settings but just the Google settings from my account.
All seems to be well now.
No real complaints now.
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I probably should have tried this, but I couldn't stand it and just returned the phone tonight. It's a pretty nice phone, but for the price I paid, I'd expect the UI to not be so unresponsive.
Some phones exhibit choppy scrolling, especially when navigating long web pages when multiple apps are running in the background. Rate this thread to express how you smooth scrolling feels on the OnePlus 5 under such conditions. A higher rating indicates that scrolling is always buttery smooth, even when you're reading a 10,000 word article on "how to kiss a girl".
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I see no 'jelly screen'. Then again, I'm an old guy and I rely pretty firmly upon my progressive lenses.
None of the jelly problems with my OnePlus+ 5 running the latest OS
Scrolling smoothness is really nice on the 5. If you want a really smooth experience, change your CPU governors to OnDemand from interactive. The difference is very noticeable.
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Scrolling smoothness is really nice on the 5. If you want a really smooth experience, change your CPU governors to OnDemand from interactive. The difference is very noticeable.
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can we do that on the stock kernel?
Yep. I use the ex kernel manager and on stock rom with stock kernel. I have like 5 or so options for governor.
One thing I've noticed with these last few builds.. if you have an app in app locker, there's frame drops and stutters if you scroll through in your recents..
I've found same event. Then i chose to adjust animation scale to 0.5 or 0. Which makes it much better.
No changes to animation speed, no changes to kernel or governor and have seen no jelly effect, this only affects a very small number of devices, I've had two Oneplus devices, bought one on launch at midnight then lost it four days later, ordered another and got it three days later, no jelly effect whatsoever.
The speed of this phone is insane.
Apps can lag that correct but only because of the app or the content, so for example a half loaded chrome page can lag, that has nothing to do with the phone at all my PC which is worth over £4000 can lag on webpages if they haven't loaded properly, it's not the hardware.
The jelly effect is there in all phones...just some people dont notice it
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The jelly effect is there in all phones...just some people dont notice it
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Yea its not mate. I'm not blind. I have perfect vision. Its not visible on either of my phones
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Yea its not mate. I'm not blind. I have perfect vision. Its not visible on either of my phones
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Every op5 has the screen panel upside down...
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Every op5 has the screen panel upside down...
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Makes no difference, the jelly effect is not present on every device, assuming that everyone has a problem seeing it because you can on your device does not mean that they have defective devices!
I've had two 1+5 devices and neither exhibited this issue, I tested it thoroughly, nothing is present, i recorded it and played it back in slow motion, comparable to any previous device i've ever had it's literally the same.
I did a video next to my HTC, there is no jelly.
Period.
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Makes no difference, the jelly effect is not present on every device, assuming that everyone has a problem seeing it because you can on your device does not mean that they have defective devices!
I've had two 1+5 devices and neither exhibited this issue, I tested it thoroughly, nothing is present, i recorded it and played it back in slow motion, comparable to any previous device i've ever had it's literally the same.
I did a video next to my HTC, there is no jelly.
Period.
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If yours is not defected you should try looking for the effect with your phone upside down if you see the jelly effect upside down its not defective but if you don't it is
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If yours is not defected you should try looking for the effect with your phone upside down if you see the jelly effect upside down its not defective but if you don't it is
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hahah mate you're missing the point, why would i hold my phone upside down? I appreciate once you've seen your phone has a defect it's impossible to ignore, i personally would make something up and send the bugger back until i got a phone that i couldn't notice it on, it would drive me mental, i don't care if they don't think it's an issue, it's bad if this many people have seen it.
All i'm saying is, I don't have this issue, check my video if you want or provide me with a fool proof test and i'll do it now, if it's me overlooking it then it's something so insignificant that i dont' actually mind, but maybe i would if i saw it.
Sorry i sound like i'm being a **** i'm not mate, but it's not present on either phone i've had, i'm sorry that yours is, funny thing is too a mate of mine just got one and he can't see it either, he mentioned that he did one time when scrolling on the web, but couldn't replicate it? Not sure if it's lag or something?
I haven't notice any of the "jelly effects" ..ok I havent recorded my screen and play the exported video in -x16 speed to check it either..
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Welp, not exactly.
Why? Because its not a hardware flaw, its a "design choice". The Display (of every current OP5 out there right now) is mounted upside down, meaning the direction the phone refreshes its display is from the bottom towards the top.
While this is not a defect or problem from a technical point of view, it can still be perceived by a lot of people, since our brains are usually expecting the panel to refresh from the top towards the bottom. The Jelly comes due to the panel not updating all pixels at once but by line after line instead.. our brain gets used to the bottom of the screen beeing updated later and simply ignores it (very rough explanation but im missing the needed vocab here).. the screen refreshing towards the top the messes with some peoples perception, therefore they notice the "Jelly" aka the lines refreshing last at the top..
This issue is purely caused by our brain expecting the panel to refresh from a different direction, so its simply a matter of getting used to it. I had headaches when using the phone in the first week or so, now I barely notice the Jelly, if at all.
Some, like me, will notice it instantly at first, others might never (Just like the discussions over frame rates, input lag and so on ). There are several factors to consider, everyone has a different sensitivity towards stuff like this and in the end, remember, its no hardware flaw, its a design choice and technically present on every OP5.
Unless they decide to either change the way the display refreshes within the Driver or Display Controller (well, that would actually be some serious work and would need cooperation with Samsung due to them producing the Displays and the Drivers, if its possible at all - again, several dependencies here) or change the direction of the screen in a later model, the "Jelly - Issue" will consist.
But hey, you are right in your other post, if you dont see it, be glad about it and dont bother to start looking for the Issue, no point to try to search for flaws that you didnt have for now, be happy with your phone
Just trying to clear up some of the confusion
Yet, this shouldnt be the topic of this thread, since this is about Scrolling smoothness, which has nothing to do with the Jelly Effect....
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For me, it hasnt been the smoothest experience to be honest.. while the phone is crazy fast, the overall handling feels very jittery.. Lots of dropped frames, way more than on my Nexus 5 running MIUI.. My N5 and my iPhone 6 feel so much smoother..
Might have to mess with custom kernels and so on a bit more, overall it at least feels smoother than an S8 tho :laugh:
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Welp, not exactly.
Why? Because its not a hardware flaw, its a "design choice". The Display (of every current OP5 out there right now) is mounted upside down, meaning the direction the phone refreshes its display is from the bottom towards the top.
While this is not a defect or problem from a technical point of view, it can still be perceived by a lot of people, since our brains are usually expecting the panel to refresh from the top towards the bottom. The Jelly comes due to the panel not updating all pixels at once but by line after line instead.. our brain gets used to the bottom of the screen beeing updated later and simply ignores it (very rough explanation but im missing the needed vocab here).. the screen refreshing towards the top the messes with some peoples perception, therefore they notice the "Jelly" aka the lines refreshing last at the top..
This issue is purely caused by our brain expecting the panel to refresh from a different direction, so its simply a matter of getting used to it. I had headaches when using the phone in the first week or so, now I barely notice the Jelly, if at all.
Some, like me, will notice it instantly at first, others might never (Just like the discussions over frame rates, input lag and so on ). There are several factors to consider, everyone has a different sensitivity towards stuff like this and in the end, remember, its no hardware flaw, its a design choice and technically present on every OP5.
Unless they decide to either change the way the display refreshes within the Driver or Display Controller (well, that would actually be some serious work and would need cooperation with Samsung due to them producing the Displays and the Drivers, if its possible at all - again, several dependencies here) or change the direction of the screen in a later model, the "Jelly - Issue" will consist.
But hey, you are right in your other post, if you dont see it, be glad about it and dont bother to start looking for the Issue, no point to try to search for flaws that you didnt have for now, be happy with your phone
Just trying to clear up some of the confusion
Yet, this shouldnt be the topic of this thread, since this is about Scrolling smoothness, which has nothing to do with the Jelly Effect....
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For me, it hasnt been the smoothest experience to be honest.. while the phone is crazy fast, the overall handling feels very jittery.. Lots of dropped frames, way more than on my Nexus 5 running MIUI.. My N5 and my iPhone 6 feel so much smoother..
Might have to mess with custom kernels and so on a bit more, overall it at least feels smoother than an S8 tho :laugh:
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Yep I do understand how the jelly effect happens, and I understand that "some people" have this gift of being able to see it whilst everyone else "me" are left thinking the world has gone mad.
I've honestly put my two cents in here so many times and it's fallen on deaf ears by the sounds of things so I'm going to leave it, I don't have this effect on my phone, not did I on my previous oneplus five, I have video recordings of the screen in use and this jelly effect does not present itself, I'm sure that with video slowed down even me with my eyes could see it ?
Even if all that were true, if I have to be watching things in slow Mo to see them then I think it's safe to say that it's something that I don't have to worry about.
I also personally don't have lags and glitches on my device, I've also owned more devices than the average shop so i do have a basis for comparison, not only that but I have an unlimited phone supply partly due to where I work, comparing my phone side by side with any top tier device yields no other reason to believe anything other than what I've just written and that's not just me that's my work colleagues seeing the same.
Appreciate that yourself and others see this issue probably more than I.
If you have a fool proof way of me testing my device then please let me know and I'll check, I'll record it and I'll apologise profusely if its present.
People are way to focused on the jelly here, I really don't mind it.
What is worse for me is the stuttering. But it's hard to know if it's only me or not as nobody is discussing this, just discussing the jelly.
For me I get a weird stutter at the end of a lot of scrolls, happens more on small scrolls or flings, as it's slowing down I get a little stutter, especially noticeable in the likes of Instagram or YouTube or certain chrome pages like this (xda)
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People are way to focused on the jelly here, I really don't mind it.
What is worse for me is the stuttering. But it's hard to know if it's only me or not as nobody is discussing this, just discussing the jelly.
For me I get a weird stutter at the end of a lot of scrolls, happens more on small scrolls or flings, as it's slowing down I get a little stutter, especially noticeable in the likes of Instagram or YouTube or certain chrome pages like this (xda)
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Same here bro, jelly scrolling is ignored by eyes after some time but stuttering is clearly visible, especially scrolling webpages in chrome.
Per Google they are adding the option.
https://www.engadget.com/2018/10/10/google-hide-pixel-3-xl-notch/
well, technically, they arent adding it, the option is already available in Pie.
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well, technically, they arent adding it, the option is already available in Pie.
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Haha, great point.
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Haha, great point.
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I really do hope they refine its implementation though. Moving icons down below is less than ideal.
I hope there's an option to half-hide it too. I could deal with half of that ridiculous notch.
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I hope there's an option to half-hide it too. I could deal with half of that ridiculous notch.
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so I went to best buy this evening to check it out.
unfortunately is was pretty crippled and I could not enable developer options (needed a password), so I couldnt get a full idea of how it looks hidden.
having said that, it really doesnt look as bad as it does in pictures online. however, it is still big.
It is not so visible on home screen if you use a dark wallpaper. Some apps hide it automagically, which keeps the status icons on the top, which is exactly how I wish it would be when hidden. I will probably make a photoshop overlay for wallpapers that will hide the notch with status up high, as I dont really use the live walls or anything like that, though I think devs will figure out a way to do that as well.
Viewing pics and video full screen it (the notch) will bother me very much.
Unfortunately the phone had no internet or cell signal, and of course connectivity settings were not available.
The screen to me is a HUGE improvement over the 2XL it looks fantastic. Even the non-XL was very impressive screen wise. Speakers do indeed sound louder, though I could only play the on-board ringtones etc, which still only preview out of one speaker.
Sadly hard to get a full hands on with it being crippled, but I do feel better about pre-ordering it than I did before I checked it out.
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so I went to best buy this evening to check it out.
unfortunately is was pretty crippled and I could not enable developer options (needed a password), so I couldnt get a full idea of how it looks hidden.
having said that, it really doesnt look as bad as it does in pictures online. however, it is still big.
It is not so visible on home screen if you use a dark wallpaper. Some apps hide it automagically, which keeps the status icons on the top, which is exactly how I wish it would be when hidden. I will probably make a photoshop overlay for wallpapers that will hide the notch with status up high, as I dont really use the live walls or anything like that, though I think devs will figure out a way to do that as well.
Viewing pics and video full screen it (the notch) will bother me very much.
Unfortunately the phone had no internet or cell signal, and of course connectivity settings were not available.
The screen to me is a HUGE improvement over the 2XL it looks fantastic. Even the non-XL was very impressive screen wise. Speakers do indeed sound louder, though I could only play the on-board ringtones etc, which still only preview out of one speaker.
Sadly hard to get a full hands on with it being crippled, but I do feel better about pre-ordering it than I did before I checked it out.
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Well do what i did.. reboot to recovery and format it xd xd then u can fully use the device
Delete. Obviously couldn't screenshot it .Duh
Download the app natcho notch to allow status bar information in the notch section but everything else below the notch
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Download the app natcho notch to allow status bar information in the notch section but everything else below the notch
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I just saw jonathan morison do a youtube review and mentioned this app.....its a great idea and use of the upper screen space. I was wondering if all the notch hiding will cause any screen burn-in.
Just installed Natcho Notch and tried it ... i likes it!
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psklenar said:
Just installed Natcho Notch and tried it ... i likes it!
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That's what I will be doing when I get mine and at least then I can pick and choose between notch/notchless (not crotchless that's something altogether different lol)
Been using Nacho Notch on my 3xl since I got it on Wednesday. Just turned it off to see if there was any difference in color on a white background. Didn't see a thing. Maybe it will the longer it is used, but my phone screen is pretty much on all night because I leave Netflix running when I fall asleep. I'll learn real quick if it does in fact have burn-in or image retention (OLED screen problem).
firepong said:
Been using Nacho Notch on my 3xl since I got it on Wednesday. Just turned it off to see if there was any difference in color on a white background. Didn't see a thing. Maybe it will the longer it is used, but my phone screen is pretty much on all night because I leave Netflix running when I fall asleep. I'll learn real quick if it does in fact have burn-in or image retention (OLED screen problem).
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Why do you leave netflix running when you fall asleep?
daleski75 said:
Why do you leave netflix running when you fall asleep?
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I usually watch a show when I go to bed. Half the time I fall asleep and wake up realizing I am a few episodes into a series.
Honestly doesn't bother me much (Well, at least it will until I can get root and install an xposed module that cuts charging off and starts charging again when the battery gets slow, or allow you to change the rate at which the phone charges). I used the module on my Pixel 2 XL and the battery was just as good as it was when I first got it 9 months later. Sadly, can't remember the module name, but it makes the chance of reducing your phones battery charge much smaller and livable with.
bsg411 said:
I just saw jonathan morison do a youtube review and mentioned this app.....its a great idea and use of the upper screen space. I was wondering if all the notch hiding will cause any screen burn-in.
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I would assume it wouldn't be any worse than it is stock
My wife and I got ours yesterday. I got the clearly white, her the oh so black. Both 64GB versions.
So, the good first:
Look at feel: I really like the frame. It just feels nicer and way higher quality than both my 2xl and 2xl. It's grippy too. It doesn't feel like it'll slip out of my hands. The glass back is nice too. I'm very glad they finally ditched the two tone. I think it's awful. I had the 3xl, and after like a day I was over the notch. Didn't think about it too much after. After having this phone for about 5 seconds I can say I'm way happier with the forehead. It's not very big at all either.
Screen:
I like the form factor better than the previous two. It's a little skinnier, which is great because with a case it felt just a little to big in my hands (I don't have small hands either). It's also taller, which I also like. The display is better too. I put it next to my 3xl, and it definitely looks better.
Face ID:
I have some good and bad on this one. Bad will be below. The good, it works VERY well. I haven't had one problem yet getting it to unlock. I don't even have to be looking directly at the phone, nor the phone straight at me. I haven't really used smart unlock either. The face unlock works so well I don't think I need it.
Speed:
This phone is very smooth. Much better than my 3xl. The main thing that I didn't like on the 3 was the swipe up and hold for recents. It was kind of glitchy. If I had something open that could scroll, it would a bit before it popped up to recents. Not a problem on this one. I haven't noticed any glitchiness whatsoever yet. I haven't done a ton on it yet though.
Battery:
So far, not bad! It seems to be draining about 3% per hour. I have the AOD on too. Also, it unlocks pretty easy, so, I've had to re-lock it several times.
And the bad:
Face ID:
So, not entirely sold on this. I don't like that almost no apps support it for starters. I use a lot of banking/credit card/etc. apps, and I use long passwords for those. I'm really missing the fingerprint scanner there. The other main gripe is it unlocks way too easy. The tap to wake is sensitive, and if I bump my desk, or pickup my phone more abruptly, it goes to the lockscreen then unlocks immediately. I've had to re-lock my phone several times sitting at work because it keeps waking up when I move around. I also can't just look at notifications on the lockscreen nor answer them from it. It just immediately unlocks no matter what. There's a setting that says it can ask you to confirm screen unlock once it scans the face, but apparently it doesn't work. No go there.
Soli:
So far, I haven't really gotten it to work. Last night I tried to skip a song to the next, it went back a song instead. After that I couldn't get it to work. Since the forehead isn't that big because of it, I don't mind. I'm hoping that they actually get this right and find more applications where it can be used for things.
Edit: Have to add one more thing to the bad:
AOD notifications. They now popup at the top of the screen. No like. I think they're easier to see underneath the AOD clock and such.