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I have a S8+, and one thing that really annoys me is how there is about an inch or so at the top of the homescreen that can't be used for icons or widgets. Normally I would put the Google search bar there, but the highest it can go is about an inch off the notification bar at the top. *Really* annoying to have that space and not use it...
I don't really want to replace the launcher (at least not within 2 days of a brand new phone), so is there a way around it? Or do we have to wait until Samsung realises that the screen aspect ratio is slightly longer that a normal phone, and fixes the issue...
While I'm at it, is there a way to change the icon for a folder to use a specific icon (eg. first app in folder), rather than the usual bad looking (to my eyes at least) tiny apps inside the folder look? Otherwise I'm back to using Folder Organizer I guess... I know Nova probably sorts this all out, but it never 100% agreed with me for whatever reason and I always reverted eventually.
Finally, is there a way to get the AOD screen to appear on a clear flip case? Obviously it's being clever by turning off the display when the flip case is closed (magnet thingy embedded in the case), but as the case is clear(ish) then it defeats the point. Nice if there was a switch in options to keep the AOD screen active even if a case is closed on it, but I cannot find it...
Cheers

I never noticed it left that much space… . now it bugs me lol.

Yeah, it leaves a lot of space. Not sure why. You could fit another row of icons easily, but no go currently.

dhorgas said:
Yeah, it leaves a lot of space. Not sure why. You could fit another row of icons easily, but no go currently.
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Fair enough. Thought as much. I'll give it a month, see if I reach unheard levels of OCD, and then install Nova if Samsung don't update. Will be about by 10th Nova install, but I always revert eventually. Always something that annoys me with it...
Stupid really, especially as it seems pretty obvious that it's about the right amount of space you gain from the extra length of the S8. Would bet the farm that Samsung forgot the new aspect ratio when it came to this. Honestly, there must be months of testing, and it's hard to believe it was missed.... Unless of course everyone at Samsung just installed Nova... Wouldn't be too surprised...
That AOD issue with the clear flip screen is well annoying though.... Really is a massive pain, especially when you can see right through the case, and even still use the touch screen (useful for answering calls without opening the case). Samsung does an amazing job on the screen, and then their own case has a compatibility issue....
Hmm, just noticed something... First day using while working, and a couple of times while wirelessly charging it has lost the wifi signal. Never (really really rarely) did that with my old Nexus 5. Don't like that considering I clicked on a notification icon on the AOD and it then tells me my network connection isn't available (and then connects before removing the notification so I don't know what it is). That's annoying... Sleep mode or something for wifi? Think I remember something similar years ago... Anyone?
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Use Nova Launcher and problem solved

@Crivensie, sounds like you're a bit like me. Nothing wrong with high expectations. About Samsung's testing though...I am not sure how thoroughly they test things because I found many bugs on the phone so far and I wasn't even trying. I'm not surprised at all at the issues you're having.

lsxmma said:
Use Nova Launcher and problem solved
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Like in Nova we can lock screen so Icons/widgets do not get delted by mistake
can we do that here in Samsung

screen burn in?

Wow! So i watch a lot of youtube and i never really watch videos in landscape mode....well i went to google something and the pages background was all white i noticed a line across the screen its barely there the top of my screen is white the rest of the phone is a slight off white is this a burn in? The reason why i mentioned youtube is because when i measured this line i kept my finger nail there to match the youtube video in portrait and sure enough that line matched where i kept my finger nail on that line wtf man lol is this now a permanent issue i never go full brightness but i admit im on youtube videos heavy...smh i thought id never have a problem with this s8 plus I've had it since launch

You can't use a screenshot to show us your display...
Instead take a picture of the display and post it.

Oops lol

mlock420 said:
Wow! So i watch a lot of youtube and i never really watch videos in landscape mode....well i went to google something and the pages background was all white i noticed a line across the screen its barely there the top of my screen is white the rest of the phone is a slight off white is this a burn in? The reason why i mentioned youtube is because when i measured this line i kept my finger nail there to match the youtube video in portrait and sure enough that line matched where i kept my finger nail on that line wtf man lol is this now a permanent issue i never go full brightness but i admit im on youtube videos heavy...smh i thought id never have a problem with this s8 plus I've had it since launch
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That's always the main issue when using Amoled displays. It's just part of the technology unfortunately. They look great, but they are basically an organic technology that degrades over time. They can degrade unevenly depending on what you're viewing/doing as you have witnessed. Navigation bars and status bars are usually the first to be noticed. I usually disable mine and use gesture controls for this reason.
P.S - Get ready for all of the Samsung/Amoled fanatics that are going to tell you that it is impossible and that you're using your phone wrong. [emoji6]

jal3223 said:
That's always the main issue when using Amoled displays. It's just part of the technology unfortunately. They look great, but they are basically an organic technology that degrades over time. They can degrade unevenly depending on what you're viewing/doing as you have witnessed. Navigation bars and status bars are usually the first to be noticed. I usually disable mine and use gesture controls for this reason.
P.S - Get ready for all of the Samsung/Amoled fanatics that are going to tell you that it is impossible and that you're using your phone wrong. [emoji6]
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Well usage is part of it, different people use theirs differently is all.

jal3223 said:
That's always the main issue when using Amoled displays. It's just part of the technology unfortunately. They look great, but they are basically an organic technology that degrades over time. They can degrade unevenly depending on what you're viewing/doing as you have witnessed. Navigation bars and status bars are usually the first to be noticed. I usually disable mine and use gesture controls for this reason.
P.S - Get ready for all of the Samsung/Amoled fanatics that are going to tell you that it is impossible and that you're using your phone wrong. [emoji6]
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Well im sorry i don't have another phone to take a pic of this guys i noticed the off white line is disappearing slightly after watching videos in landscape mode for a couple hours, but i know it is there but barely not like before

Oled displays generally heal over time by themselves from burn-in if it's not too much marked, clearly if the fixed image pattern that caused it will no longer be displayed on the screen.
Many apps are available on Google Play that could help shortening this healing time, for example:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=appinventor.ai_avaworks00.LCDBurnInWiper
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.blasterbyte.burn_infix
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tinyroar.amoledburninfix
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.codefortravel.amoled_screen_burn_in
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.feetstech.screenburn
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gilonm.burnfix
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kvanzuijlen.screenburn_infixer

themissionimpossible said:
Oled displays generally heal over time by themselves from burn-in if it's not too much marked, clearly if the fixed image pattern that caused it will no longer be displayed on the screen.
Many apps are available on Google Play that could help shortening this healing time, for example:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=appinventor.ai_avaworks00.LCDBurnInWiper
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.blasterbyte.burn_infix
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tinyroar.amoledburninfix
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.codefortravel.amoled_screen_burn_in
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.feetstech.screenburn
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gilonm.burnfix
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kvanzuijlen.screenburn_infixer
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LCD burn in, or image retention does go away. Amoled however, does not. The only way to make it "go away" is to degrade the other pixels the same amount as the others. If the navigation bar for example is where the burn in is, the only way to fix it would be to let the screen stay on on the opposite pixels so that they will degrade to the same level as the others. Amoled technology is an organic technology, which means that each pixel is slowly dying each time the screen is on. If some pixels are used more than others they will die faster. It's just the science of the display.

Screen burn in
mlock420 said:
Wow! So i watch a lot of youtube and i never really watch videos in landscape mode....well i went to google something and the pages background was all white i noticed a line across the screen its barely there the top of my screen is white the rest of the phone is a slight off white is this a burn in? The reason why i mentioned youtube is because when i measured this line i kept my finger nail there to match the youtube video in portrait and sure enough that line matched where i kept my finger nail on that line wtf man lol is this now a permanent issue i never go full brightness but i admit im on youtube videos heavy...smh i thought id never have a problem with this s8 plus I've had it since launch
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I'm always on YouTube to an my screen looks just like what you tryed to show it matches YouTube an it's pissing me off does your phone still look like that or Did u find a way to fix it?

jal3223 said:
you're using your phone wrong. [emoji6]
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Lol, reminds me of antennagate and when Steve Jobs said "You're holding it wrong"

Yeah... leaving static images on amoled on for extended periods of time is never a good idea.
Google should know better than this too. They should force the UI to fade to black when a video is playing in portrait.

My S8+ got burn in after about 2 months. It was also having other issues. But anyway Samsung replaced my display under warranty. Been a few months since and this one isn't having that issue.

just like mine
I got the same freaking thing same burn in as yours the line is where i watch the videos im surprised it also happened to you. The top line is more whiter.

Always on Display = Screen burn in
So just to be on the safe side, it would be better to disable the AOD (always on display)?

Anything black on your screen, helps decrease burn in.
Personally, I never use AOD. Maybe I am being over cautious?

duplicate post

Top is whiter bottom is darkish yellower
Same thing is happening to me and same circumstances with s8+. Occasionally youtube glitches and goes fullscreen in protrait making the whole screen black and keeping the video portrait which is cool but that rarely happens to me.

JeffDC said:
Anything black on your screen, helps decrease burn in.
Personally, I never use AOD. Maybe I am being over cautious?
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The aod moves around. Sammy has made this feature nearly percect mine is used every day for about 5 hours a Night and no burnin anywhere....

LMBO
themissionimpossible said:
You can't use a screenshot to show us your display...
Instead take a picture of the display and post it.
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LOL, this is a hounast mistake but we all do blond moments but this is by far the funniest post I seen yet

[email protected] said:
LOL, this is a hounast mistake but we all do blond moments but this is by far the funniest post I seen yet
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If you're actually referring to my post about how to show an amoled screen burn-in on this forum, before posting you should exactly understand what is being discussed...do you know what a burn-in is???
If not, then forget my comment, but in the future please explain yourself more clearly so we can understand whom and what you're referring to...
I see that you're a first time poster here on xda-developers... maybe this can help you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA

Prime Day sale convert review (updated 7.24)

Update at bottom.
Couldn't pass up the price! I got the white one, less fingerprint magnet. I'm using it with Straight Talk with Verizon SIM. Here's my impressions after two days of use.
I've used the Moto X Pure for the past year. It was the only unlocked, multi-carrier large screen phone....I like 'em big ... Wait, that came out wrong....?
Update
First thing I did was all the updates, reset, update, reset... Wash rinse, repeat. Like Android likes to do, I couldn't download the last security update till I got on WiFi.... Wouldn't use data via the Moto's hotspot thus I had to go to the library, very rural area, only WiFi around....pita but typical Android not allowing system updates over data! So an uber clean start.
Overall I think the PH-1 is a good device. I haven't had any real negative bugs. The charging icon when off, the espresso cup, never shows fully charged. Otherwise the software seems like any other decent Android device I've used.
Build quality
IMHO ceramic isn't a good material to use. It's far too slippery to place on any surface, and being an insulator not great at removing heat, not to mention potential signal issues. However, my device's fit and finish is excellent, though it'll be the first device I use a case with — I've never broken a screen, knock on wood, in 5+ years. I have to put this in a case so I can set it on surfaces without it running off.
Screen
It's good, though too small imo. I really like the Moto X Pure more. Haven't compared them side by side on a great photo yet but I'm sure the PH-1 is better in that regard. The biggest pain is the text is so much smaller and there isn't a perfect setting for font size + display size, for me, thus I'm adapting to the default.
Camera
I'm not a big photo person. The camera to me does a good job. It took a photo of small print on a charging brick that can't be read. I've tried it with other devices and none could make the text clear but the PH-1 did.
Notch
IMO this notch and 2:1 screen ratio is stupid. However I will say essential did it the best you could. I don't mind it at all, but the reality is it's not a 5.7" screen — you rarely use the notification area (which is much larger), and if you do you get a wonky aspect ratio. IMO anything below 6" screen size needs to stay 16:9 and no notch. It's amazing how much more screen I have with the Moto X Pure.
Performance
Mine has been great. There's the occasional jitter or lag depending on the app but I've seen that on every Android device I've used — haven't used a pixel. FYI I turned off animations. Essential has done a good job keeping the bloatware down and unnecessary background running apps, I really appreciate that! Now if we could get Google to play along!
The PH-1 also does a lot better with ram management than the Moto! The Moto didn't take much before you were reloading the recent app or web page — I honestly don't think it ever used over 2GB of the ram. The Ph-1 IMO does well keeping recent apps/pages from being reloaded.
Fingerprint scanner
Works fast when it works but a lot of double tries. Might need to redo the setup.
Signal
I tested the signal between my two devices and here's what I noticed. The signal dB & dBm range is much greater on the PH-1 than the Moto. The Moto stays pretty steady in my current location which has a very strong Verizon signal. The PH-1 signal varies a lot ±10. It can be significantly lower or higher than the Moto. It seems to really decrease signal in standby, I'm guessing essential is turning down the power to the antenna to increase battery life when in standby which would be smart, and the signal IS AFFECTED BY HOW YOU HOLD IT, thus a case is a smart idea. Nonetheless my speeds are better.
Enhanced LTE
Can't make phone calls if it's enabled.... Most likely due to being on a mvno. And didn't notice any improvement in signal or data with it on.
Hotspot
Seems to be normal.
Speaker
It's loud! Louder than the Moto! There Moto sounds a bit better but not a lot. I'm pretty impressed.
Call quality
Seems the same.
Battery life
Very good. Nearly double the Moto! — I usually get 5hrs SOT browsing, and have had 12hrs SOT reading. I've always been able to get good SOT compared to most users — due to my usage habits. Where this one does so much better is the SoC IMO. I can browse about 2x what I can on the Moto. I'm sure the screen is more efficient also but I've not had enough time to test the two. I'm very pleased thus far.
Right now I'm at 87% battery with 2 hrs 15 minutes SOT! With LTE, location on, some browsing, signal testing, and writing this long winded thing.
Shipped with no charge
My device arrived with no charge, wouldn't even power into the battery charging state for a while.
Charging
First charge was slow! After that it has charged very fast, and doesn't get hot like the Moto.
USB-C to HDMI
Used this tiny converter and it worked!
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B077XFZXXL?psc=1&ref=yo_pop_mb_pd_title
However, while video was properly displayed at 16:9 my landscape of the device was over sized. I had to set the display size to the largest, strangely, to make the screen smaller on the TV but it never was 1:1, always slightly bigger, and I couldn't find an adjustment on the TV for scanning HDMI.... Could be the TV.
No exFat support
A pita. Had to format my Samsung T5 ex ssd. The apps to use exfat (Paragon, mixplorer, etc) weren't good enough, better to reformat IMO if you're going to be using a particular device frequently. The read/wire speed to the T5 isn't super fast, ~100MBps.
I don't use NFC and rarely Bluetooth thus I haven't tested them and don't care.
Straight Talk setup
Of course their customer service insisted I get a new SIM card — you can't use the same SIM because they can only use one IMEI number per SIM. So I ordered a new SIM but tried the old one — data didn't work the first couple tries — the proper apn wasn't being loaded, but third time everything is rocking including the proper TracFone apn but it can't be edited — I don't know if that's Android 8 or what.
Got the Moto command center widget working as well though it loads slow on restart. I love this widget!
Used to use Swype, only keyboard I've used really, trying to get used to Gboard.... Not liking it at all!
Thanks for reading!
UPDATE 7.24.18
GPS, LTE, Wi-Fi, and cellular signal
FYI: using Straight Talk w/Verizon SIM.
Went for a drive into town today, I'm in a very rural area, and had a chance to really put the signal issues to the test.
GPS: no problems whatsoever. Connects faster than any device I've owned. Didn't drop either.
LTE: this device switches bands more than my Moto X Pure. While my Moto would stay on band 4 this will switch between 4 & 13, even in the same location not moving. The Moto has about -10dbm better on band 4, but the PH-1 is same or better on 13. I've read some say they think the big issue of signal with this device is band 4, seems lower for me as well.
I maintained a cellular signal the entire drive, but data dropped out just about the same as the Moto does in the same areas. So, about the same imo. However the data signal on this device was noticeably worse in the grocery store. To the point of not being useable till I found that perfect spot.
Wi-Fi: the grocery stores's WiFi was problematic. Connection showed stable but wouldn't transfer data. Turned off data, turned WiFi back on and worked better for a bit. I've had similar issues with other Android devices and WiFi, my Moto has been the best at WiFi connectivity.
I've had similar issues with every Android device I've owned — some type of connection bug in either WiFi, GPS, or data. So, to be fair the PH-1 isn't alone when it comes to connection issues and I'm sure much of that goes back to Google. All in all I would say signal, depending on available bands, can be a bit lower in general thus those really spotty areas may be non-existent. However, when connected I get much faster data speeds than my Moto.
A further note.... If you have VERY dry hands this thing is ridiculously slick! Not so bad when hands are "normal."
Like every Android device I've used or tested it has its own quarks, nothing to horrible though, at least in my case ?

Good review.
Fwiw I am using the custom nav bar app that hides both the nav and status bar. That combined with setting display setting small and font extra large works pretty decent. I am coming from a Nexus 6 which has a ton of screen space.

Were can I find that widget
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https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/papho...om-navigation-bar-0-3-5-android-apk-download/

kenbrownstone said:
Were can I find that widget
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Here's a newer version of the widget.... I loaded it last night and it seems ok. If you want the one i had in the screen shot let me know, but I think this one functions better.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/themes-apps/app-moto-z-widget-t3410892/amp/
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droidstyle said:
Good review.
Fwiw I am using the custom nav bar app that hides both the nav and status bar. That combined with setting display setting small and font extra large works pretty decent. I am coming from a Nexus 6 which has a ton of screen space.
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Are you talking about Natcho notch?
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Essential has a 19:10 screen ratio, not 18.5/9, which brings it closer to a standard width phone. I actually feel like I have quite a bit more screen over the s8 I had before this. I can't wait until you can fill the notch area on android P. The black bar that happens drives me nuts. I'm using the XDA gestures app and a magisk module to hide the nav bar, so at least I gain that space.

crixley said:
Essential has a 19:10 screen ratio, not 18.5/9, which brings it closer to a standard width phone. I actually feel like I have quite a bit more screen over the s8 I had before this. I can't wait until you can fill the notch area on android P. The black bar that happens drives me nuts. I'm using the XDA gestures app and a magisk module to hide the nav bar, so at least I gain that space.
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The S8 2:1 aspect ratio is to narrow.... I looked at those 2:1 phones compared to my Moto X Pure and I couldn't give up that much screen. I think the PH-1 would have been better at 6" ... But that's me ?
Im not planning on rooting. I get to OCD when I go down that road and waste to much time. So I'll take what I can. But all in all I'm good with the device.
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Charles7 said:
It's far too slippery to place on any surface
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My biggest complaint as well. I have both the glossy black and matte grey, and the grey is so much nicer. No fingerprints, and nowhere near as slippery as the glossy black one

x000x said:
My biggest complaint as well. I have both the glossy black and matte grey, and the grey is so much nicer. No fingerprints, and nowhere near as slippery as the glossy black one
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When I ordered I didn't notice the grey was matte. Probably could take fine sandpaper and turn this into matte. Did that with a LG G2 and it worked great, but that was plastic.
Think I'll go with the Incipio dualpro case instead, just for the screen drop protection.
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Charles7 said:
The S8 2:1 aspect ratio is to narrow.... I looked at those 2:1 phones compared to my Moto X Pure and I couldn't give up that much screen. I think the PH-1 would have been better at 6" ... But that's me
Im not planning on rooting. I get to OCD when I go down that road and waste to much time. So I'll take what I can. But all in all I'm good with the device.
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Eventually I"m sure they'll add the setting to go full immersive like they had in oreo under dev settings. I kinda can't wait. That was my favorite thing about running AOSiP and RR, and almost makes me want to go back and just use the gestures app on one of those.

crixley said:
Eventually I"m sure they'll add the setting to go full immersive like they had in oreo under dev settings. I kinda can't wait. That was my favorite thing about running AOSiP and RR, and almost makes me want to go back and just use the gestures app on one of those.
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The full immersive mode on Oreo is ok for certain things, but on videos you have to zoom in every single time, not a natural fit thus why I'm a 16:9 fan ?
But that is better than nothing!!!
I really wish Google would have gone all in on gestures AKA Blackberry OS 10. This phone is perfect for that!
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Charles7 said:
The full immersive mode on Oreo is ok for certain things, but on videos you have to zoom in every single time, not a natural fit thus why I'm a 16:9 fan ?
But that is better than nothing!!!
I really wish Google would have gone all in on gestures AKA Blackberry OS 10. This phone is perfect for that!
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Switch back to the P beta for MOAR gestures

rignfool said:
Switch back to the P beta for MOAR gestures
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I'm on 8.1... I'll wait for stable P, thanks though.
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rignfool said:
Switch back to the P beta for MOAR gestures
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Honestly, the gestures are so half baked, that is why I'm using the xda app even though I'm on p. The nav bar still being there means you gain no extra space (they could have at least made it transparent. Tried navbar apps but there is no transparency option), and the back button looks ridiculous.

Charles7 said:
Are you talking about Natcho notch?
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Charles7 said:
When I ordered I didn't notice the grey was matte. Probably could take fine sandpaper and turn this into matte. Did that with a LG G2 and it worked great, but that was plastic.
Think I'll go with the Incipio dualpro case instead, just for the screen drop protection.
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No...I'm using command bar app that allows full immersive mode. No Nav bar or status bar with any app or desktop mode unless you swipe the screen on finger print sensor. I have full screen from top to bottom all the time.
Yeah I have the Halo Gray...it's a matte finish. I really like it.

droidstyle said:
No...I'm using command bar app that allows full immersive mode. No Nav bar or status bar with any app or desktop mode unless you swipe the screen on finger print sensor. I have full screen from top to bottom all the time.
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Could you point me to the app you're talking about? Does it need root? I'm not planning on root.... But.....
I haven't found an app that works with the fingerprint sensor, and the immersive mode apps aren't worth it, at least the ones that I have tried. Thanks
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droidstyle said:
No...I'm using command bar app that allows full immersive mode. No Nav bar or status bar with any app or desktop mode unless you swipe the screen on finger print sensor. I have full screen from top to bottom all the time.
Yeah I have the Halo Gray...it's a matte finish. I really like it.
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It leaves a black bar for me like any other app. Are you on Android p?

No I am on stock 8.1unlocked and rooted..no black bars.

droidstyle said:
No I am on stock 8.1unlocked and rooted..no black bars.
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Oh, stock has the notch setting in dev options anyway so yeah I knew that worked even without an app.

Burn in after less than 24 hours

Not even 24 hours. I don't even go pass 40% brightness. The burn in is towards the right corner of the screen next to the notch. It's not image retention because it would have faded away after a couple of minutes. Will be chatting with customer service in a few. I'll let you know the outcome.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MEcKTdIT3kLrux6yysTbyZthBq63MvOL/view?usp=drivesdk

MervinsOnlineID said:
Not even 24 hours. I don't even go pass 40% brightness. The burn in is towards the right corner of the screen next to the notch. It's not image retention because it would have faded away after a couple of minutes. Will be chatting with customer service in a few. I'll let you know the outcome.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MEcKTdIT3kLrux6yysTbyZthBq63MvOL/view?usp=drivesdk
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What are we to be seeing? I only see all white like the rest of the display.

It's basically the notification bar. Gonna try get a better angle.

bobbyphoenix said:
What are we to be seeing? I only see all white like the rest of the display.
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Yeah I just zoomed in all the way on the image, and I can't see anything...
Clickbait title is clickbait?

Most likely image retention, not burn in.

white ui must die!!!

I wish that it was clickbait. :crying: Don't really like to go through the whole RMA process again with Google. It's quite hard to snap a picture of it but this one captures it better than the original photo. I played a number of videos for an hour or so to see if it goes away. The image burn is still noticeable.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Z-JIEXSZ5ZPRycYTsoJw91tA3ismkI_d/view?usp=sharing

MervinsOnlineID said:
I wish that it was clickbait. :crying: Don't really like to go through the whole RMA process again with Google. It's quite hard to snap a picture of it but this one captures it better than the original photo. I played a number of videos for an hour or so to see if it goes away. The image burn is still noticeable.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Z-JIEXSZ5ZPRycYTsoJw91tA3ismkI_d/view?usp=sharing
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It's image retention. I don't see a thing. This is a non issue.

I think you might have a case of hypersensitivity.. I cannot see the slightest difference across any of the pics you provided
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That's image retention, not burn-in. Many OLED displays do this. As long as you don't keep the phone at max brightness or still images on the screen for extended periods, this should not be a big issue.

Are you turning "off" the notch by enabling the black area around it? if so, that turns off the pixels and there will be some retention. I believe it is actually the rest of the screen "burning in" as it is being lit up and the area with the pixels being off now looking a bit different.

elreydenj said:
Are you turning "off" the notch by enabling the black area around it? if so, that turns off the pixels and there will be some retention. I believe it is actually the rest of the screen "burning in" as it is being lit up and the area with the pixels being off now looking a bit different.
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The notch is on. I haven't messed with that setting yet. I barely just finished transferring my data from my older phone when I noticed it. Well, hopefully it does go away.

MervinsOnlineID said:
Not even 24 hours. I don't even go pass 40% brightness. The burn in is towards the right corner of the screen next to the notch. It's not image retention because it would have faded away after a couple of minutes. Will be chatting with customer service in a few. I'll let you know the outcome.
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Did you hide the notch?

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Did you hide the notch?
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Nope. Haven't touched that setting yet.

Damn Google went with a Samsung panel this time on the XL you would think the burn in problem was solved... I'd suggest running an app to fix that there are a few on the play store... Could help

Can't see what you're talking about in those pictures at all tbh

For what it's worth I did see it in your first pic but really wouldn't worry about that. I'm confident it will fade as you continue to use the phone without "hiding" the notch.
Also, what screen protector is that? I'd greatly appreciate a link.

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For what it's worth I did see it in your first pic but really wouldn't worry about that. I'm confident it will fade as you continue to use the phone without "hiding" the notch.
Also, what screen protector is that? I'd greatly appreciate a link.
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Thanks! Here is the screen protector. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FNNJ4TY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
It's very responsive. However, the edges are lifting. I guess it will do for now until whitestone dome decides to release one for the Pixel 3 XL.

Almost 48 hours in and ZERO burn in. I checked yesterday and just now with an all white picture and a grey one. Zip. I've had a lot of screen on time the last two days too. Let's see what things look like in a week. If nothing then, I won't be too worried about it. The 2 xl's that had burn in problems showed quite a bit after a few days to a week.

Been hiding the notch on mine since I got it on Wednesday. Have not noticed anything at all on mine. Using Nacho Notch to hide it and still have the notification bar on the sides of the notch. Just blacked out with white text like a few phones that have done this. Plan on leaving it like that for the whole time I have my phone as it gives more screen area for other things.
Now I just need root to completely remove the navigation bar so that I can go back to Pie Controls...

10.0.3 notch complaint

the notch in 10.0.3 gets removed entirely, where before the time, network, notifications, etc would still use this part of the screen. come on oneplus, you can do better!

how you get the update? i'm on 10.0 and can't find the update

Deltalfa said:
how you get the update? i'm on 10.0 and can't find the update
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https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=4349826312261679648

Lmao. This option just made our screen smaller. How lazy are the devs. On previous OOS 10.0.1 version, i used SetEdit app to manually hide the notch and it was better.

I've gone back to pie 9.0.9. Oneplus have really screwed up android 10 on the Oneplus 6

I guess I'll stay on 9.0.9 as long as it takes to get this garbage 10 update figured out. Pathetic.

My phone looks stupid now, thanks dev.

SETTINGS-DISPLAY-NOTCH DISPLAY, Is that not working on 10.3.0?

I think this new way is better... No sense to turn black the entire status bar instead of really hide it, now it's like custom roms, i absolutely prefer this new one imo
This is notch hide, before was "turn Black status bar" -_-

Hitman478™ said:
I think this new way is better... No sense to turn black the entire status bar instead of really hide it, now it's like custom roms, i absolutely prefer this new one imo
This is notch hide, before was "turn Black status bar" -_-
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The new way is worst. We are using amoled screens hence just like old days turning off pixels is similar to the ones we have in 10.3.0 (which is notch hide i.e. pixels turned off). Atleast we had large screen and use the bar above for notifications.

crazix said:
The new way is worst. We are using amoled screens hence just like old days turning off pixels is similar to the ones we have in 10.3.0 (which is notch hide i.e. pixels turned off). Atleast we had large screen and use the bar above for notifications.
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Imo it's about aesthetic, to have clock, notification battery etc in a black space it seems to be out of the device itself and not inside the design of it..

"Turn black the status bar" was much better

Completely agree. The "new" hide the notch option is hilarious. How the hell they even think about that?

So has anyone had a good experience with 10.3.0?

I like the new one too, It's so symmetrical, while the old one had that tiny curves on the top edges that were so different from the ones on to bottom. But hey, some people like this one, others the old one, so they should probably add the older option as well for everyone to choose the one they prefer.

Yes, give both options. We shouldn't have to argue about which is better. I liked the old method because it kept the same amount of usable space, and that is more important to me than someone else's idea of aesthetics. The new method also makes the phone Look like it has a large forehead.

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Completely agree. The "new" hide the notch option is hilarious. How the hell they even think about that?
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Is like Pixel 2 with this big notch. If you hide it, the same happens. Tho isnt a big Deal on OP as on a Pixel phone :silly::silly:
I dont hide, but the font on the home screen is soo small I cant read my Time and its always black. (Screenshot attached).