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A Note 4 owner (love the Note 4) looking to switch to the S6 next month when it comes out due to the smaller size.
Question - I noticed in the hands-on videos of the S6 from MWC that the metal rim extends a bit above the glass panel to absorb impact, and it's gorilla glass 4.
So - does this truly make the phone shatter proof? Can I use it without a case and not worry about shattering the screen if it falls out of my pocket (my Nexus 6 shattered from 2 feet).
No screen is "shatter proof" in a cell phone. You could have gorilla glass 10, and if your phone lands the "right" way, it will break.
xxaarraa said:
A Note 4 owner (love the Note 4) looking to switch to the S6 next month when it comes out due to the smaller size.
Question - I noticed in the hands-on videos of the S6 from MWC that the metal rim extends a bit above the glass panel to absorb impact, and it's gorilla glass 4.
So - does this truly make the phone shatter proof? Can I use it without a case and not worry about shattering the screen if it falls out of my pocket (my Nexus 6 shattered from 2 feet).
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AFAIK, Gorilla Glass 4 is as strong as Gorilla Glass 3 but in a thinner form. And Gorilla Glass 3 is definitely not shatter proof.
Japultra said:
AFAIK, Gorilla Glass 4 is as strong as Gorilla Glass 3 but in a thinner form. And Gorilla Glass 3 is definitely not shatter proof.
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I looked this up too. Here:
"A piece of Gorilla Glass 4 can offer the same damage resistance as a thicker piece of Gorilla Glass 3, so manufacturers like Apple could make their smartphones’ screens 20% to 25% thinner than with Gorilla Glass 3 if they wanted to “settle” with the same damage resistance levels of Gorilla Glass 3."
Seems to imply that manufacturers have a choice - they can thin down the gorilla glass 4 panel and offer the same protection as gorilla glass 3, or they can use a 'standard' thickness gorilla glass 4 panel and offer better impact protection than earlier. Wonder what approach went into the S6 panel.
Read more: http://www.cheatsheet.com/technolog...from-shattering.html/?a=viewall#ixzz3TLHbeTpM
All glass will shatter in the proper conditions. The S6 will be no exception. I say this will make having a case all the more important. I imagine back panels won't be terribly expensive, but the screen will be $$$. Good luck removing the front glass without damaging the LCD panel. I know it's been done on the S3 and up, but the thought of heating up the phone enough to soften the adhesive, while not damaging the other phone components, scares me.
xxaarraa said:
A Note 4 owner (love the Note 4) looking to switch to the S6 next month when it comes out due to the smaller size.
Question - I noticed in the hands-on videos of the S6 from MWC that the metal rim extends a bit above the glass panel to absorb impact, and it's gorilla glass 4.
So - does this truly make the phone shatter proof? Can I use it without a case and not worry about shattering the screen if it falls out of my pocket (my Nexus 6 shattered from 2 feet).
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Survives 80% of the time and is 2x better than competition.
no phone is. i will say if it is anything like the xperia phone it will be a good thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BGQtfDZNt4
the impressive thing about this phone is it's the closet to the S6, both have glass on front and back. the big difference is the xperia uses DragonTail glass and not gorilla at least on the Z2 from what i gather..
Only option to prevent the horror scenario - glass shattering - is to put an UAG or Otterbox case on it and protect the screen with tempered glass. Like Dandroid and others have said you could have Gorilla Glass 25 if the phone is landing on the right spot face first it will shatter no matter what.
frankgreimes said:
Only option to prevent the horror scenario - glass shattering - is to put an UAG or Otterbox case on it and protect the screen with tempered glass. Like Dandroid and others have said you could have Gorilla Glass 25 if the phone is landing on the right spot face first it will shatter no matter what.
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I think you guys are all missing the point of the question. I didn't ask if Gorilla Glass 4 guarantees that the phone will never break. I was merely wondering about it's improved strength and its benefits in everyday scenarios. In hindsight, maybe I should worded it as "shatter resistant" instead of "shatter proof"
And no, some of us don't want to turn our already big phones into clunky laptops or VCRs by putting a hideously huge case on it. Which is precisely why the industry is investing in shatter resistant technology to start with.
xxaarraa said:
I think you guys are all missing the point of the question. I didn't ask if Gorilla Glass 4 guarantees that the phone will never break. I was merely wondering about it's improved strength and its benefits in everyday scenarios. In hindsight, maybe I should worded it as "shatter resistant" instead of "shatter proof"
And no, some of us don't want to turn our already big phones into clunky laptops or VCRs by putting a hideously huge case on it. Which is precisely why the industry is investing in shatter resistant technology to start with.
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Then live with the consequences I doubt you'll ever see full shatter-proof glass on a phone
i want to know if the screen is using the anti reflective coating like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05UFlwnbtfE
The screen on my Note 4 is supposedly Gorilla Glass 4 and I still managed to crack it.
bull****!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...s/samsung-view-case-scratched-screen-t3107467
no, it's not shatter proof, it's more of scratch proof, these screens are built to wishstand a static pressure, which means something that moves on the screen it self, like trying to scratch it, shatter proof means it has to take a dynamic pressure, like dropping or hitting with a hammer or things like that, you can't have both worlds at least in glass...so they focus more on the scratching thing....
We've all seen the drop tests and no doubt dropped their phones without cases from time to time too. I haven't broken a screen by dropping a naked phone since before the original Xperia Z. The S6 glass is pretty resistant to shattering but best to use a screen protector and take the hit on that instead of the screen.
Just love my s6 being naked since I bought it .. I don't care about shattered or not.. they have spent billion of dollars for R&D to development such technology.. so why can't we just enjoy it as it's out of the box... otherwise nothing left forever guys...
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=261853863123&alt=web
Found this thought I would share its a cheap case but water and dust proof
srkoza said:
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=261853863123&alt=web
Found this thought I would share its a cheap case but water and dust proof
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Hey,
Did you get this case? Was it any good?
I did, and no, it's not. The front panel is this soft flexible plastic. Almost like a clear balloon in texture. Did not seem durable enough for my precious. I purchased an underwater bag instead, seems much better.
I think this Waterpoof Case will work for you.
Hi all
got the edge plus with the clear view case now i have exactly the same issue with the smaller edge with little dots and a scratch on the screen.
contacted Samsung and they say their is nothing official for the Edge Plus so the chances are they will not replace the screen free of charge.
is anyone out their in the same boat as me, is their any official notification from Samsung covering the Edge Plus
Thanks
Same sh*t for me, my brother has the S6 edge and had this problem, and I bought the clear view cover for my edge+ thinking it was fixed, after 3 days, noticed few scratches when I was on sunlight, 2 weeks with the phone and already pissed out 'cause of stupid things like these...
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I got this case but after reading about the issues with the S6 I only used it after installing a screen protector. I then noticed small pinpricks in the protector after using the case and I could even see the indentation of a circle where the magnet touches the screen. Fortunately most of the marks disappeared from the protector after a few days but it appears that they have not resolved this in the design. I also found that the back of the case itself scratches too easily - it is already showing several scratches even though I have been very careful in handling it. I am surprised they sell it as an official case given the known problems.
The clear view case is definitely one to stay away from. Although it added to the beauty of the phone, it just was not practical, offered no screen interaction when closed and over time I would imagine it would wear out quite quickly. Returned mine after 2 days (before any scratches set in) and opted for the official SView cover which gave me back the functionality that I was used to. Having had the original SView cover on my Note3, after 2 years of hard use it really protected my phone well. The case is in gold and looks better than I expected. Fingers crossed this new SView cover for my edge+ will hold up the same.
i have the clear view case for almost 2 weeks now and not a single scratch or dent visible; maybe you guys had some dust or smth in your pockets that went inbetween the case and the screen?
I had for few days the phone didn't scratch but the cover is completely scratched and it's just awful now ?
nulledapk.com said:
i have the clear view case for almost 2 weeks now and not a single scratch or dent visible; maybe you guys had some dust or smth in your pockets that went inbetween the case and the screen?
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***** crumbs in the pockets, no doubt.
ShyamSasi said:
I had for few days the phone didn't scratch but the cover is completely scratched and it's just awful now
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I've had my gold clearview case for a week and it's looking a little bit scratchy but nothing too serious.
I just wonder where people's expectations lie in these cases. Of course we don't expect to see scratches on the screen when there's a protective case over it but the case couldn't have caused the scratches. Previous S-View and flap cases were quite soft and spongy, these ones are tough so grit could easily get pressed against the glass. If anything, Samsung should provide a screen cover with the case. I use a plastic screen cover anyway because I find the bare glass too slippery at times.
As for scratches on the case itself, well that's what it's for! It takes the hit so your phone doesn't, and with a mirror finish you'll see some wear and tear. If you wanted a case that maintains its original appearance then don't pick mirror finish, clear hard shell or light colours - grab a dark silicone thing to wrap around your phone and it will look the same in 2 years as it did the day you bought it. Next we'll be seeing case protector films to keep the case from degrading!
yesBilly said:
***** crumbs in the pockets, no doubt.
I've had my gold clearview case for a week and it's looking a little bit scratchy but nothing too serious.
I just wonder where people's expectations lie in these cases. Of course we don't expect to see scratches on the screen when there's a protective case over it but the case couldn't have caused the scratches. Previous S-View and flap cases were quite soft and spongy, these ones are tough so grit could easily get pressed against the glass. If anything, Samsung should provide a screen cover with the case. I use a plastic screen cover anyway because I find the bare glass too slippery at times.
As for scratches on the case itself, well that's what it's for! It takes the hit so your phone doesn't, and with a mirror finish you'll see some wear and tear. If you wanted a case that maintains its original appearance then don't pick mirror finish, clear hard shell or light colours - grab a dark silicone thing to wrap around your phone and it will look the same in 2 years as it did the day you bought it. Next we'll be seeing case protector films to keep the case from degrading!
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Mate,
I am a very careful user 1.5 years with M8 without any case and it still looks brand new. But a "Official Samsung case" I expect it to be a bit more durable and not prone to so much scratches and this case ain't cheap either. Now Clear case by Spigen no no scratches on the case or phone. I'm happy with the performance. I chose Clear view case from Samsung so I can take advantage of it's features.
I've bought the clear view case for my black S6E+ and I can confirm that it does indeed scratch the screen.
The first scratches appeared after something like 3 days of usage, so I've placed spigen ultra crystal to protect screen from further damage and to mask the spots.
I thought that maybe the reason was that I've carried the phone in the case in my pocket one day. But to my rage I've noticed that the case have damged the screen protector within 2-4 hours after applying it and this time there was no pocket to blame, I was home with my little girl sick so I've only moved the phone from one room to another always carrying it in the hand.
I've contaced Samsung Poland by their facebook account and they advised to report the problem to authorised service center in order to assess the damage, but I've let it go - I dont think they have much experience with replacing the screen in this particular device and I was afraid that the final effect may be in fact even worse.
So I replaced the Spigen with another one (~20$ went straight to the bin) and I stay away from the clear view case. At the beginning I was using S-View Cover (highly recommended) but I settled now with Rock TPU (way slimmer and better than Nillkin Nature or Spigen Liquid).
I've compared clear view cases for S6 and S6E+ and it is obviuos that they tried to improve the design by adding a kind of "lip" along the internal edge of the flap so I doesnt rest at the whole screen all the time. This means that the scratches will now be placed (as it was in my case) along the edges of the screen thus giving additional meaning to "S6 Edge"
It does have oleophobic coating and yes it seems to be able to heal minor scratches so thats a plus, but it really doesnt matter as long as the case meant to PROTECT the screen actually DAMAGES it.
Thanks for that. Im glad i went for the S-view instead, i had it on my Note 4 previously without a single scratch.
In UK Samsung acknowledged that clear view case causes scratches on s6 edge and they are replacing screens (only once) plus adding screen protector, wondering if its the same for s6edge+. Worth asking samsung helpline
Mine did it after just a few days. I hate flip covers anyway. But I can't un-scratch the screen.
Ugh...
Chiffon Method to avoid scratches
Chiffon method to avoid scratches
Here is something that came to my mind using Chiffon fabric to put inside the cover to protect the screen, if the screen is still prone to scratches after this, means that the screen is pure crap.
If you don't want to use the Chiffon one, pay attention not to use one made from plastic.
Material:
- A cut of Chiffon fabric, in Mexico costs 1 dolar per meter.
- Transaparent glue, the one used in school that is water washable, in case of error, it can be safely removed
PROCEDURE: (Very complex)
- Glue the fabric into the inside of the cover as you will see in the picture
That's it, is possible to use any mostly transparent fabric in cotton or polyester that is like Chiffon or better, I found this one here.
NOTE: The pictures are very bad quality, looking at the phone is mostly the same using the fabric compared to not using it.
NOTE 2: Inside the cover is mostly the same in black, the bad lighting where I shoot it creates that gray halos, is pure black and if you are a purist you can do it much better than me.
NOTE 3: "CON" mean WITH and "SIN" means Whithout
No offence but it looks really terrible...
pokosik said:
No offence but it looks really terrible...
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I didn't want to be the first to say it! ?
It seems the S view cover scratched the S6. Im expecting the same with the Plus
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So incracked the rear glass from a very small drop.. Metal is not bent.. Barely a scratch.
Is the rear glass piece full glass? Or glass over plastic? Is my phone still waterproof?
Assurance says $175 for replace the device... If crack is just esthetics only.. Then I'd just keep it until they have replacement parts.
There's one way to find out for sure
The phone is not waterproof, it is water resistant. If the back glass is cracked, I would expect that the overall integrity is compromised.
I read that back plate is glued,
and there's no way to check whether glue still intact or not.
Well the question reallyis whether the rear piece is fully glass? Or is glass over plastic./metal sheet.. If latter then I'm fine.. If prior.. Then it'll leak under water pressure..
I don't have much on the phone itself.. But id rather not be without a phone until I get replacement.
Theodric58 said:
The phone is not waterproof, it is water resistant. If the back glass is cracked, I would expect that the overall integrity is compromised.
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I'll take my chances but not with a crack seems the internal parts would get wet. Same ip rating as a lifeproof case. "Resistant" or whatever I will take a bath with it. Not because I need to but because i can. Lol
well I"ll be dunking this phone in the water this weekend.. as soon as I get this Note2 backup phone working.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eScXStdz_qM
when looking at this video, there seems to be a black film that's the glass is adhered to. it's GS6 but I don't see why it would be any different.
I'm out $175 eithways if this phone dies underwater anyways, but if I can just hold out longer knowing that that it's still going to be "WATER RESISTANT" then I'll just do a rear glass swap myself and save some $$$ and doing a insurance claim.
and here's another example of the "METAL FILM" under the glass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxHAgPu7XAc
Couldn't wait. Let my son play in the tub with it for about 15min inside the spigen clear case..
Typing on it now..
Did you end up testing it? Was it waterproof after being crack?
Hey guys i fix these phones and the back is just glass but its tempered it has a watedproof adhesive that doesnt let the water go in. I have the same question if it is waterproof or not because the only way to tell if it still is is to submerge it in water it depends on the crack. If you get it changed from a repair shop ur phone wont be waterproof because they dont have the same waterproof adhesive like samsung does
Sadly I dropped mine as well. I could pay $175 for new one through insurance, but I opted paying $80 for a life proof case. I should have got the case in the fist place.
Bump- Can anyone else confirm this?
Mine has been cracked for 2 months now and I haven't gotten it wet really except for wet hands etc.
I feel the same about the factory/OEM adhesive vs aftermarket as there are replacement parts on eBay now.
Any new insight is appreciated
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I also broke the front glass .After that i tested it underwater several times .Suprisingly, my s7 edge is still waterproof..So; i can claim that your s7 edge ll be still waterproof until the ruber seal is not broken.
so you're saying that the phone is still waterproof with a rear crack in it???
It all comes down to how big each crack is and where its placed.
repaired device is NOT water-resistant any more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNPeA4CJ7Ow
repair
starche_old said:
repaired device is NOT water-resistant any more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNPeA4CJ7Ow
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The guy didn't use oem adhesive around the edges of glass and took of the paint which creates a strong bond between the glass and metal frame
Samsung Galaxy S5
For those who still have one, If there is a crack then you should let water come in contact to the phone. I had the bottom of my phone cracked it fell in some water and stopped working the next day. :crying: Don't test the limits on the phone.:good:
I ordered a back on eBay for 6$
Pretty sure it's glass coated in paint ...can't or don't know how to post a pic on here... I have the same problem of cracks .. but I'm opting to fix it my self spent around 25$ for supplies
Hi, I have a question about Spigen Liquid Crystal case. I would like to know if the dotted pattern doesn't scratch or leave marks on the glass back panel after some time using it. Thank you
Any dirt between case and phone will eventually cause it to scratch, I had to threaten legal action to get my glass replaced due to the s-view case damaging the screen, buy a rear protector so you have something physically stuck to the back glass that cannot move and take the damage instead of the phone.
scarlett24 said:
Hi, I have a question about Spigen Liquid Crystal case. I would like to know if the dotted pattern doesn't scratch or leave marks on the glass back panel after some time using it. Thank you
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The dots will only be visible if you look at it from a certain angle. And no, the dots won't cause any damage/ visible marksto the phone's rear back.
GoNz0 and Rakcoon thank you for your help.
I have Spigen's transparent case on my phone.
It's been about 8 months.
The back of the case is horribly scratched up like hell.
The entire case itself has turned yellowish, which is normal for silicone and perfect for my golden S6.
The edges and sides of the case however turned reddish, you know like redhead women? Like that, however the colour change is not that prominent and it actually looks cool. It's visible only from certain angles though.
However, I use a blower to make sure to dust gets trapped in-between the back of my phone and the inside of the case, so I don't really have scratches on the back of my phone.
Protection wise? It's worth it, doesn't really add too much bulk, but it's good enough for protection from drops about 4 feet onto concrete floor. Get Nillkim's Amazing H+ tempered glass to protect the front, that's what I'm using on my S6.
Don't ask for photos of it, I'm too lazy to do that.
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