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[Q] How Scratch-Resistant is the NS glass?

Hey Guys,
as the topic says, I would like to know your expierences about the scratch-resistance of the Nexus S glass.
I couldnt find anything on the net about it, only some screen protector tests, which isnt the point.
So what do you think? Is the surface pretty sensetive, should I buy a screen protector?
Greets

No scientific test here but I've had my phone for nearly a month and keep it in my pocket with no case or screen protector. I have minor scratches on the plastic back but my screen is still flawless.

Yeah I´ve read alot about the batterycase and that it scratches pretty fast! Im gonna visist my girlfriend in UK and want to buy the Nexus S there. Its only available at carphone warehouse am I right? Do they sell the white version already?

Haven't seen the white version here yet and yes only carphone warehouse sells it in the UK.

I do not own the Nexus S, but as far as I can tell from the internet, the display is from glass. That means it is as scratch-resistant as any other phone with a glass display. Yes, including phones with Gorilla Glass. Gorilla Glass only prevents the display from cracking.
The battery cover, however, is another story. Plastic has it advantages (lighter, better if you drop your phone), but you'll probably get a lot of micro-scratches over time. No big scratches, just a couple of little ones.
So my advise is: don't buy a screen protector. If you really want it, go for a super clear one, like a Seidio USG Crystal Clear. At least they don't mess with the displays colours and with the feel of the glass.
But you may consider protection for the plastic back. You could spray PlastiDip on your battery cover, buy a case or keep your phone in a pouch.

The nexus s is very much sensitive to scratches. After having the phone for about a week, I noticed fine micro scratches. I'm very careful with my phone, so more than likely they came from taking it in and out of my pocket probably due to the rough fabric of my jeans. And no I don't keep any debris in my pocket while my phone is in there. My nexus one never developed those type of scratches and there were times when my N1 was placed in my pocket with coins! imho gorilla glass does make a world of difference when it comes to scratch resistance. The NS definitely needs a protector if you want to keep the screen pristine.
Sent from my Nexus S

princeasi said:
The nexus s is very much sensitive to scratches. After having the phone for about a week, I noticed fine micro scratches. I'm very careful with my phone, so more than likely they came from taking it in and out of my pocket probably due to the rough fabric of my jeans. And no I don't keep any debris in my pocket while my phone is in there. My nexus one never developed those type of scratches and there were times when my N1 was placed in my pocket with coins! imho gorilla glass does make a world of difference when it comes to scratch resistance. The NS definitely needs a protector if you want to keep the screen pristine.
Sent from my Nexus S
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I carried my NS in my pocket with my Zippo for a week and the screen never got scratched once. I'm having an issue seeing how a metal lighter case wouldn't scratch the screen but your jeans would? Unless your jeans are made of diamonds....

If you get scratches with your Nexus S, and not with your Nexus One, then you are just being unlucky. Gorilla Glass has nothing to do with it. Besides, the Nexus One also hasn't got Gorilla Glass.
That YOU get scratches on your display, doesn't mean it scratches very easily. And that you're very careful with it, also isn't an argument: as I said, sometimes it's just bad luck.
Please, anyone who wants to know if the Nexus S scratches easily (the display), ignore those 'the Nexus S scratches very easily compared to another device' replies.

Mine has not scratched on the screen at all. I typically leave it in my back jeans pocket. The black plastic has very tiny micro scratches that can only be seen at a certain angle from direct sunlight or fluorescent bulbs.
The only issue for me is the creakiness of the back cover. Whenever I press down on the plastic near the bottom and top sides of the phone it sounds like its crying out in pain =/

Androyed said:
If you get scratches with your Nexus S, and not with your Nexus One, then you are just being unlucky. Gorilla Glass has nothing to do with it. Besides, the Nexus One also hasn't got Gorilla Glass.
That YOU get scratches on your display, doesn't mean it scratches very easily. And that you're very careful with it, also isn't an argument: as I said, sometimes it's just bad luck.
Please, anyone who wants to know if the Nexus S scratches easily (the display), ignore those 'the Nexus S scratches very easily compared to another device' replies.
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I'm not gonna go back and forth with you on this topic but I will say this..... Honestly, I can care less about what happens to your device. Who ever chooses not to use a protector on their phone is their business, not mine! What I offered was my personal experience and advice to the one who asked for our input. Ok, so what if the N1 doesn't have gorilla glass. Whatever glass the N1 uses, is different from the NS and I know personally what happened to my NS and what didn't to my N1. I'm very finicky when it comes to scratches on my phones. Not once did I ever have to put a protector on my N1. Luck had nothing to do with my NS getting micro-scratches. It's has everything to do with the way the screen was manufactured and what rubbed against it through my everyday usage!
Sent from my Nexus S

kenvan19 said:
I carried my NS in my pocket with my Zippo for a week and the screen never got scratched once. I'm having an issue seeing how a metal lighter case wouldn't scratch the screen but your jeans would? Unless your jeans are made of diamonds....
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Quoted to reiterate the point. Glass I'd glass when it comes to scratches. Period.
Sent from 1.5GHz CM7 Nexus S.
EDIT: If you want a really scratch "resistent" (I say resistent because my wife is making me, I disagree) get someone to make a sapphire screen for your phone. Its common practice in high end watches and, as I own one, I can testify to its inability to scratch. I get quite a kick from taking some random very hard material and rubbing it against the face only to have it come out unscathed. The only issue that'd arise is if you scratched it with a diamond...then it would definitely scratch.

kenvan19 said:
I carried my NS in my pocket with my Zippo for a week and the screen never got scratched once. I'm having an issue seeing how a metal lighter case wouldn't scratch the screen but your jeans would? Unless your jeans are made of diamonds....
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I don't know exactly where the scratches came from. They could've gotten there from a hard dust particle rubbing against it while cleaning my screen. The scratches I had weren't deep scratches. They could only be seen at an angle when light hit it....If you're definitely sure of your screen, why don't you bless all of us with an uploaded personal video of the key test?!
Sent from my Nexus S

Lol guys come down .
So just to make it clear, the micro scratches on yr NS are on the back or on the display? Display right?
The point of my topic is just, that if I buy a nice phone like this I would like to use it as clean as possible, means only necessary accessories.
I had the Galaxy S before and Im gonna buy the NS now, before all of them the Desire. The problem is just that u always have to wrap the phone with stuff to make it "safer" and then u dont really see much of the design, the nice look of the phone, but it seems like this is just not possible right now .
Anyway I baught a silicon case so far, is there a good cheap screen protector on ebay or a brand u know?
And before I forget, I read that the NS has a "anti-fat" layer, so there arent really fat traces on the display, is this right? Would suck if yes, because its really annoying and I wouldnt like to lose this because of a screen protector .
Greets

The scratches I'm speaking on are on the display screen.
Sent from my Nexus S

Robse86 said:
Lol guys come down .
So just to make it clear, the micro scratches on yr NS are on the back or on the display? Display right?
The point of my topic is just, that if I buy a nice phone like this I would like to use it as clean as possible, means only necessary accessories.
I had the Galaxy S before and Im gonna buy the NS now, before all of them the Desire. The problem is just that u always have to wrap the phone with stuff to make it "safer" and then u dont really see much of the design, the nice look of the phone, but it seems like this is just not possible right now .
Anyway I baught a silicon case so far, is there a good cheap screen protector on ebay or a brand u know?
And before I forget, I read that the NS has a "anti-fat" layer, so there arent really fat traces on the display, is this right? Would suck if yes, because its really annoying and I wouldnt like to lose this because of a screen protector .
Greets
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Its suuuuuuuuper thin. I love it.
At the guy who got scratches on his screen. I still don't get it man. I cleaned my screen with a microfiber cloth two to three times a day before I got a screen protector. As I said, I carried it in my pocket with my lighter most times, but sometimes in the pocket with my change and still no scratches. Not to mention dropping it a few times. I just can't see how having it in your jeans could scratch it since I felt my lighter rub against my screen.
I'm not stupid though man, its f***ing glass. It'll scratch. But I've never seen glass scratch from jeans. Its just not nearly abrasive enough.

kenvan19 said:
Its suuuuuuuuper thin. I love it.
At the guy who got scratches on his screen. I still don't get it man. I cleaned my screen with a microfiber cloth two to three times a day before I got a screen protector. As I said, I carried it in my pocket with my lighter most times, but sometimes in the pocket with my change and still no scratches. Not to mention dropping it a few times. I just can't see how having it in your jeans could scratch it since I felt my lighter rub against my screen.
I'm not stupid though man, its f***ing glass. It'll scratch. But I've never seen glass scratch from jeans. Its just not nearly abrasive enough.
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Then do a f**kin lighter test then. Rub that sh!t against your NS display screen and post the f**kin video lmmfao! Let us all see just how lighter resistant your NS is! That would be interesting to watch lolll!
Sent from my Nexus S

kenvan19 said:
Its suuuuuuuuper thin. I love it.
At the guy who got scratches on his screen. I still don't get it man. I cleaned my screen with a microfiber cloth two to three times a day before I got a screen protector. As I said, I carried it in my pocket with my lighter most times, but sometimes in the pocket with my change and still no scratches. Not to mention dropping it a few times. I just can't see how having it in your jeans could scratch it since I felt my lighter rub against my screen.
I'm not stupid though man, its f***ing glass. It'll scratch. But I've never seen glass scratch from jeans. Its just not nearly abrasive enough.
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Thin? The phone or the screen protector ? Well well then I have to buy a screen protector , is there a good one ?

I've had my NS for over a month. It has never seen a case. It's been in pants with keys, in pants with an un-cased iPhone 4, in pants with change, in jackets with keys and change, in a courrier bag with keys, change, a sharp metal mini-hard drive enclosure and dropped onto pavement a few times. The screen is absolutely scratch free.
There is a TINY bit of visible wear on the plastic back - especially at the very top and the very bottom, which are the leading edges when inserting and withdrawing it from a pocket.
One thing that has not been extensively examined so far - the "contour" display on the NS puts the entire face under more compression load when static, meaning that it will be MUCH harder to fracture, and therefore scratch, for a given strength of glass, since compression is where glass is strong.
Also, here is a little lesson on Gorilla Glass and any hardened glass. They are chemically treated to better resist surface flaws by creating compression in the surface of the glass. For Gorilla Glass, Corning starts with already-more-durable alumosilicate glass, and then uses their proprietary treatment it to better resist surface fracturing by penetrating more deeply than "traditional" glass hardening treatments on soda-lime glass - this means that, while you can still scratch it, the glass won't fracture as much around the contact, so you won't be able to see it as much. All of this is available on Corning's website.
For points of reference, here are my last 4 phones, their relative abuse states and what I saw out of them:
NS - one month+, hard use including travel, abuse my 2 and 3 year old kids, my daily high-speed bike commute over cobbled parisien streets, etc. Zero screen scratches. Oleophobic treatment seems to be holding up better than Apple's examples.
iPhone 4 - 4 months hard use as a phone, 2 more moderate use as a super-duper high-end iPod touch. Several very tiny scratches on the screen, and numerous tiny scratches on the back, then the screen shattered in the pocket of my jeans alone sometime on a transatlantic flight. I replaced the front and back with the "acquired" real Apple iPhone 4 white components someone stole out of Shenzen and sold through a site in NYC. One month light iPod use since, no marks.
N1 - 5 months as primary phone, then a 4 month break, then almost 2 more months as a phone when, battery be damned, I could no longer support the crappy mail and chat on the iPhone 4. It suffered very heavy use and abuse, including NUMEROUS hard drops and falls onto pavement and stone thanks to kids. The metal frame around the screen is VERY beaten up, and the edge has even cracked slightly on the screen from the compression around the metal edge, but the screen itself has no scratches.
Milestone (euro version of the Droid, complete with Gorilla Glass) - primary phone for about 3 months, and it had a long scratch down the face less than a month after buying it. But in this case, I know EXACTLY when it happened. It was in my wife's jacket pocket, and she gored it with diamond ring.
Finally, I don't think that anyone really KNOWS what glass is used in the Nexus S except for Samsung (and their provider, if there is one). I know that the Galaxy S, Epic, Vibrant, Continium, Captivate, and many other Samsung phones do use Corning's baby. I also know that many other products use it without mentioning it. I know that the iPhone claims not to, but that it does use some specially-treated alumosilicate glass.

princeasi said:
Then do a f**kin lighter test then. Rub that sh!t against your NS display screen and post the f**kin video lmmfao! Let us all see just how lighter resistant your NS is! That would be interesting to watch lolll!
Sent from my Nexus S
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Better yet why don't I do a jeans test to see how stupid you are.

big_adventure said:
I've had my NS for over a month. It has never seen a case. It's been in pants with keys, in pants with an un-cased iPhone 4, in pants with change, in jackets with keys and change, in a courrier bag with keys, change, a sharp metal mini-hard drive enclosure and dropped onto pavement a few times. The screen is absolutely scratch free.
There is a TINY bit of visible wear on the plastic back - especially at the very top and the very bottom, which are the leading edges when inserting and withdrawing it from a pocket.
One thing that has not been extensively examined so far - the "contour" display on the NS puts the entire face under more compression load when static, meaning that it will be MUCH harder to fracture, and therefore scratch, for a given strength of glass, since compression is where glass is strong.
Also, here is a little lesson on Gorilla Glass and any hardened glass. They are chemically treated to better resist surface flaws by creating compression in the surface of the glass. For Gorilla Glass, Corning starts with already-more-durable alumosilicate glass, and then uses their proprietary treatment it to better resist surface fracturing by penetrating more deeply than "traditional" glass hardening treatments on soda-lime glass - this means that, while you can still scratch it, the glass won't fracture as much around the contact, so you won't be able to see it as much. All of this is available on Corning's website.
For points of reference, here are my last 4 phones, their relative abuse states and what I saw out of them:
NS - one month+, hard use including travel, abuse my 2 and 3 year old kids, my daily high-speed bike commute over cobbled parisien streets, etc. Zero screen scratches. Oleophobic treatment seems to be holding up better than Apple's examples.
iPhone 4 - 4 months hard use as a phone, 2 more moderate use as a super-duper high-end iPod touch. Several very tiny scratches on the screen, and numerous tiny scratches on the back, then the screen shattered in the pocket of my jeans alone sometime on a transatlantic flight. I replaced the front and back with the "acquired" real Apple iPhone 4 white components someone stole out of Shenzen and sold through a site in NYC. One month light iPod use since, no marks.
N1 - 5 months as primary phone, then a 4 month break, then almost 2 more months as a phone when, battery be damned, I could no longer support the crappy mail and chat on the iPhone 4. It suffered very heavy use and abuse, including NUMEROUS hard drops and falls onto pavement and stone thanks to kids. The metal frame around the screen is VERY beaten up, and the edge has even cracked slightly on the screen from the compression around the metal edge, but the screen itself has no scratches.
Milestone (euro version of the Droid, complete with Gorilla Glass) - primary phone for about 3 months, and it had a long scratch down the face less than a month after buying it. But in this case, I know EXACTLY when it happened. It was in my wife's jacket pocket, and she gored it with diamond ring.
Finally, I don't think that anyone really KNOWS what glass is used in the Nexus S except for Samsung (and their provider, if there is one). I know that the Galaxy S, Epic, Vibrant, Continium, Captivate, and many other Samsung phones do use Corning's baby. I also know that many other products use it without mentioning it. I know that the iPhone claims not to, but that it does use some specially-treated alumosilicate glass.
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Robse86, listen to this guy. He knows what he is talking about. A screen protector isn't really necessary. That doesn't mean the screen can't be scratched, so don't blame us when it does scratch. You should consider a case, if you don't like the micro-scratches that often appear on the battery cover.
Anyway, listen to big_adventure.

Would you buy a Sapphire Screen Protector for the S5?

Alot of people are talking about the iPhone 6 having a Sapphire Screen, if you want the Sapphire Screen on your S5, your wish has been granted.
An unkown Screen Protector brand called: "Aero-Gear" with the slogan: "Born from Aerospace" has advertized a screen protector called: "Flight Glass SX" housing the Sapphire Crystal material, and they have been doing it for several months, right now they are taking preorders for the Galaxy S5 Protector. They have been showing people the durability of the Sapphire screen for a while, from hitting an iPhone with a razor blade, to sliding a concrete block over it, no scratches or cracks and it's easier to wipe the dust than the regular Gorilla Glass Screen. Here are the videos:

maybe i would have to see some real world stuff, ive seen alot of this done to Gorilla glass before and we all know how something like sand can still scratch it.

I checked the website and at 0.6mm this is really thick, A credit card is 0.76mm for comparison.
Glass protectors are generally 0.015mm to 0.4mm. I'd think a 0.6mm glass one would be pretty dang tough also.
I'd be concerned with case fit/interference for the slimmest cases at that thickness; anyone gonna go for one?

blessedswine said:
maybe i would have to see some real world stuff, ive seen alot of this done to Gorilla glass before and we all know how something like sand can still scratch it.
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Gorilla Glass is 7H in Mohs Hardness, sand I think is 9H, meaning that Sand could scratch whatever below it. Sapphire Crystal is 10H they claim, meaning that sand can't scratch it. For the real life test, skip to 1:42 in this video:

When are they going to be shipped? I'll wait until I read some reviews on it. I have a Zagg Glass on my S5, and a otterbox defender soon to be swapped out for a Kraken and maybe a Zerolemon. seems pretty thick like delawaredrew is saying, I'd like to see it on a s5 and in a bunch of cases for compatibility.

ghostcamed302 said:
When are they going to be shipped? I'll wait until I read some reviews on it. I have a Zagg Glass on my S5, and a otterbox defender soon to be swapped out for a Kraken and maybe a Zerolemon. seems pretty thick like delawaredrew is saying, I'd like to see it on a s5 and in a bunch of cases for compatibility.
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Probably in a couple of days it will ship. The design covers the camera, sensors, recent apps and back button, and has a cutout for the speaker grill and home button. It is a bit thick, but you won't notice the thickness. I may post my own review for the protector.

noo7na7 said:
Gorilla Glass is 7H in Mohs Hardness, sand I think is 9H, meaning that Sand could scratch whatever below it. Sapphire Crystal is 10H they claim, meaning that sand can't scratch it. For the real life test, skip to 1:42 in this video:
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i can see by that video that that screen protector is hugely thick, compared to the tempored one i have, its also not cheap at 53$ on amazon for the iphone 5 version, thats just too expensive i can buy 5-10 tempored glass screen protectors for the same price.

blessedswine said:
i can see by that video that that screen protector is hugely thick, compared to the tempored one i have, its also not cheap at 53$ on amazon for the iphone 5 version, thats just too expensive i can buy 5-10 tempored glass screen protectors for the same price.
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That's the simulated screen protector, the real screen protector is much thinner, besides that, I don't care about the price.
Tempered Glass gets scratched by sand and sapphire does not.
This is how thin the sapphire protector is: prntscr.com/40ohyt

But will the sapphire screen protector fit with a case? My zagg glass fits my defender and Kraken case fine.

just have a look at a Rolex or a tag both have sapphire glass if you are looking for real world appeal of you will find many 15 to 20 year old Rolex's with beat up casings and the glass is immaculate

noo7na7 said:
Gorilla Glass is 7H in Mohs Hardness, sand I think is 9H, meaning that Sand could scratch whatever below it. Sapphire Crystal is 10H they claim, meaning that sand can't scratch it. For the real life test, skip to 1:42 in this video:
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Just for the sake of Accuracy and Comparison:
Here is the Mohs Hardness scale.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohs_scale_of_mineral_hardness
Sand is usually comprised of quartz particles, and is a 7 on the Mohs scale.
Sand can scratch an equal hardness or less.
"Sand is a naturally occurring granular material composed of finely divided rock and mineral particles. The composition of sand is highly variable, depending on the local rock sources and conditions, but the most common constituent of sand in inland continental settings and non-tropical coastal settings is silica (silicon dioxide, or SiO2), usually in the form of quartz."

Im not convinced it's near worth it. An essentially no-name company claiming sapphire. for $50 or so
From the video the glass held up nearly as well in their test. And you can buy 3-4 glass ones off of Amazon (got a nice one for $16) for the price of one of theirs; meaning you can replace it if it cracks or the rare chance it scratched bad enough ALMOST FOUR TIMES. Over the course of ownership of 2 years, you can replace it every 6 months with new fresh glass for the same price; or more frequently if you're a yearly swapper- once every 3 months.
I also don't buy the hammer test. As we've seen in drop tests screens can crack or not crack at random. The screen under the protector is still glass people. The force will transfer through the protector and crack the glass under regardless of the material on top of it (glass or sapphire). Basic physics.

noo7na7 said:
Gorilla Glass is 7H in Mohs Hardness, sand I think is 9H, meaning that Sand could scratch whatever below it. Sapphire Crystal is 10H they claim, meaning that sand can't scratch it. For the real life test, skip to 1:42 in this video:
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Because of the remarkable hardness of sapphires—9 on the Mohs scale (the third hardest mineral, right behind diamond at 10 and moissanite at 9.25)
Wikipedia

Niilken 9H+ tempered glass protector

Just received Niilken 9H+ tempered glass screen protector from www.cbay.co.nz
Handful of cleaning agents included with the protector.
1. Wet cleaning cloth
2. Dry cleaning cloth
3. Adhesive film to remove dust
4. Wiping cloth
5. Extra stickers to hold the protector without directly touching
Unfortunately, the one I received did not fully adhere to the screen. There were gaps all around the protector border, and refused to set properly even after firmly pressing it down.
It did not affect s-pen functionality nor front camera, but it could have been better.
Overall, otherwise looks good and does its job as one of the first tempered glass protectors for note 4.
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Wrong forum thread. The reason the glass does not fit properly is because of the 2.5D screen shape at the edges.

jah said:
Wrong forum thread. The reason the glass does not fit properly is because of the 2.5D screen shape at the edges.
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That is not the reason. 2.5D is for the top surface, not underneath.

mkim055 said:
That is not the reason. 2.5D is for the top surface, not underneath.
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He's quite right, on both counts.
The phone's screen curves almost imperceptibly before it gets to the "obvious" curve at the edge of the screen. Most (all current?) tempered glass protectors are perfectly flat on the backside - this doesn't adhere properly at the edges because the phone's screen curves away.
The threads in the accessories section have covered this in quite some detail. Some manufacturers are busy trying to design a glass protector that both adheres properly and is easy to apply.

SquidgyB said:
He's quite right, on both counts.
The phone's screen curves almost imperceptibly before it gets to the "obvoius" curve at the edge of the screen. most tempered glass protectors are perfectly flat on the backside - this doesn't adhere properly at the edges because the phone's screen curves away.
The threads in the accessories section have covered this in quite some detail. Some manufacturers are busy trying to design a glass protector that both adheres properly and is easy to apply.
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You are right, I actually misread that as 2.5D for screen protector. I am aware of the screen curvature starting within the viewing screen.
Thank you though.
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iloome is currently the only company who is making a Note 4 tempered glass screen protector that is designed to fit OVER the 2.5D curved edges,
All other pieces will either stop short of the curve or will have issues adhering.

Why bother, it's gorilla glass 3 right? Pretty scratch resistant as it is. I never used anything on my LG G3 and its scratch free. Or my G Pro 2. Never had an issue. The GG3 glass is good enough I think to use without anything and it looks so much better as a result.

Hendrickson said:
Why bother, it's gorilla glass 3 right? Pretty scratch resistant as it is. I never used anything on my LG G3 and its scratch free. Or my G Pro 2. Never had an issue. The GG3 glass is good enough I think to use without anything and it looks so much better as a result.
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"Pretty scratch resistant" isn't "completely immune to scratches". The point being that if you cover your phone with a protector no matter what happens (short of a drop/stanley knife) you're quite literally covered. Having a decent screen protector, glass or not, along with a case means you can throw your phone into a pocket with a bunch of keys with little regard to how your phone will fare.
I'd much rather have to replace a £5-15 protector than realise at some point that there's a scratch on the actual glass on my screen. You can't go back from that - you can replace protectors easily. People have different usage profiles, just because your 3 phones are scratch free, doesn't mean that others won't want to protect theirs.

Hendrickson said:
Why bother, it's gorilla glass 3 right? Pretty scratch resistant as it is. I never used anything on my LG G3 and its scratch free. Or my G Pro 2. Never had an issue. The GG3 glass is good enough I think to use without anything and it looks so much better as a result.
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I always thought the same, but afraid to try it.... anybody else not use any protection and not get scratches?

Your right I have friends that are tradesmen, and I wouldn't go without a screen protector if I was them. I wouldn't go with a high even phone either.
But in my case my G3 / Note 4 is in my pocket and just my phone alone. Maybe that's why. I don't put my phone inside with coins or keys. That's asking for trouble

Hendrickson said:
Why bother, it's gorilla glass 3 right? Pretty scratch resistant as it is. I never used anything on my LG G3 and its scratch free. Or my G Pro 2. Never had an issue. The GG3 glass is good enough I think to use without anything and it looks so much better as a result.
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One of the reviewers Note 4s screen got scratched during use after a few days(can't remember which site it way). I also remember seeing a video where Gorilla Glass gets microscopic scratches without a protector and these scratches make the whole structure weaker and more prone to shatter when dropped.

scratch resistance VERY CONCERNING

Ive not had this phone for even a month and have never dropped it or put it together with any hard materials like keys. I just noticed a huge scratch about an inch and a half long on the front screen.
This is extremely unnerving especially being advertised as an improved scratch resistance compared to previous model.
How can gorilla glass 5 possibly scratch never having been in contact with any hard surfaces??
It's honestly to the point where it just seems ridiculous. I've had my s7 over a year and not a single scratch and I've dropped it multiple times.

I have same experience. Im taking care of my phone a lot. I dont even put it on the table if i dont out a piece of paper under it. In pocket phone is alone. Most of the time phone is in the case and even after this care the phone have several scratches. So, yeah, the phone isnt so scratch resistant. I hope i can find some proper flagship from metal next year, because as most i love this phone, this is unnerving.
A little help is a dbrand skin. You will get a new look, no scratches, and you can hide front panel behind the glass protector.

My screen has a scratch even though I've never put my phones screen down. Back is protected by cover. The only place screen is in contact with anything is in my pocket. My previous phone had Gorilla glass 3 and scratched only after a year.

Bought the S8 today along with the Samsung Led View Cover, hope that will keep my device from scratching :fingers-crossed:

Yes the scratch resistance of the S8 is not as good as in previous models. Gorilla glass 5 seems to be a downgrade (from version 4) or Samsung hasn't really put gorilla glass on S8.
The glass of my S6 had much more resistance to scratches.

I have only the Samsung Cover Silicone , Curved screen protector dont feet and killed the touch so i take it off

Yup. The back is also supposed to be GG5. I've had a screen protector on the phone since day one. However I went ONE day without a case or skin on it, and sat it down on the table at a restaurant. Result; several micro scratches on the back. There was nothing on the table that was harder than glass, so it should not have scratched.
SO glad I put a TGSP on the front (with LOCA glue). Probably going to get a skin for the back. I had a clear on on it, but the midnight Black shows every speck of dust or bubble under the skin. My wife's Orchid Grey doesn't show dust or anything, and her clear skin is nearly invisible.

I would be interested in starting a class action lawsuit against corning. They seem to be the only ones who don't hold any accountability to produce quality parts or to accurately represent their product improvements.

they'll just deny it until the bitter end like their Note 7 debacle

I noticed some scuffing on the black frame from small debris getting trapped between the frame/body of the phone and the case causing scuffs/scratches when you move around with the phone in your pocket.
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Quickvic30 said:
I noticed some scuffing on the black frame from small debris getting trapped between the frame/body of the phone and the case causing scuffs/scratches when you move around with the phone in your pocket.
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That's why I put a skin on mine that covers the back and sides.

People just must not look after the phone to well ive had my s8 for 6 months no scratches nothing and its in my pocket with keys and everything also dropped it 2 meters and not a scratch dent or chip. The front is gorilla glass and the rest is lumia glass as the manual states. Dont know how anyone could scratch the s8 without immense pressure being applied.

had mine 3 months no screen protector but in a case, no marks on screen yet.

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People just must not look after the phone to well ive had my s8 for 6 months no scratches nothing and its in my pocket with keys and everything also dropped it 2 meters and not a scratch dent or chip. The front is gorilla glass and the rest is lumia glass as the manual states. Dont know how anyone could scratch the s8 without immense pressure being applied.
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I am super careful with my phones and keep my phone in a case and carry it around in a microfiber case as I did my S7 and s6 Edge and this is the first phone that I have ever scratched and could not figure out how it scratched. I have 2 friends with S8s. And both scratched uber easy. The screen should be way more scratch resistant for the price. Maybe just some of the screens are defective, but for the cost the screens should be way more durable.

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I am super careful with my phones and keep my phone in a case and carry it around in a microfiber case as I did my S7 and s6 Edge and this is the first phone that I have ever scratched and could not figure out how it scratched. I have 2 friends with S8s. And both scratched uber easy. The screen should be way more scratch resistant for the price. Maybe just some of the screens are defective, but for the cost the screens should be way more durable.
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The screen can get scratched (kind of worn out) if you keep the phone in your jean pocket face down (facing thighs). The stitching seams are enough to scratch it. So I have learnt to keep mine facing outwards.

Honestly, this is the saddest part of the phone. Ever since I got my S8 I have been taking damn good care of it and used a case since day one and at least 4 times per week I wipe it with a microfibre cloth, immediately wipe away fingerprints and still after all this, mini scratches all over the front glass. Even my iPhone 6 which I used for 3 years had better scratch resistance.

I'm in the same situation. I got mine at the end of august and have a scratch an inch long from the top to the bottom.

After all Gorilla Glass 3 may not be as bad as we thought.

The first Gorilla Glass was ready between 2005 and 2006, but its big debut really came with the iPhone. Apple released its device to the world in 2007 and, at the company’s request, the technology on its display was 1.5 mm thick and had an oleophobic coating, which minimized fingerprints and smudges.In 2012, Corning released Gorilla Glass 2 at the CES. The glass was just as resistant, but its main update was its thickness. The second generation was 20% thinner than the first model. In lab tests, it could hold up to 50 kg of pressure without cracking or breaking.In that same year, Gorilla Glass was included on 600 million devices. Since this version was thinner than the first, it let manufacturers develop lighter and thinner models of their phones. Both the Nexus 4 and the Galaxy S3 came equipped with Gorilla Glass 2.Gorilla Glass 3 glass brought even more resistance with it, unlike the previous version which was more focused on thickness. This is also the generation that introduced Native Damage Resistance (NDR) technology, which allowed the glass to handle even deeper scratches. According to Corning, the third generation prevented up to 35% of the scratches on the display. To commemorate the third version of their tech, Corning planned on increasing the resistance of its Gorilla Glass three-fold compared to older versions. They could do this thanks to a new manufacturing process. GG 3 was released at the CES 2013, and it came on models like the Galaxy S4, the Moto G, and the Moto X.
Shift of focus from scratches to shatter proof:
In 2014, Corning presented its Gorilla Glass with a bold new objective. Through one of its surveys, the company found out that 70% of cell phone screen damage was due to drops, and so it began investing in reinforcing its glass. The GG 4 was developed focused on the idea of being resistant to drops.The fifth generation was released focused on providing even more resistance to drops, and it delivered with four times the strength as the previous version. Corning has released that in lab tests, the GG 5 has survived drops of up to 1.6 meters. That said, the manufacturer also guarantees that its technology can prevent cracks in up to 80% of falls onto extremely hard surfaces at the height of 1 meter
Trade-off seen in GG4 and GG5 when compared to GG3
GG3 has the greatest scratch resistance of all the Gorilla Glasses because GG4 and GG5 sacrifice some scratch resistance for greater impact resistance. However even with GG3, the surface of the glass is still prone to microscopic scratches and abrasions that reduce its dust resistance, oil/water resistance and impact resistance over time. With GG4 and GG5 being a little less scratch resistant a screen protector is more important than ever, and you can always replace the protector for less than 200 bucks if it becomes damaged.
So GG3 is not so bad at all, After all GG5 has only 1 Meter drop protection which seems to be inadequate to me when it comes to the tortures we commit on our phones:laugh::laugh:

Cool story bro
Wysłane z mojego POCOPHONE F1 przy użyciu Tapatalka

Ofc gc3 isnt so bad. GC3 was top when it came. The problem nowadays, people just need the best of all, not good ones. IF there is something better, the rest is crap, for that people.

Just refer to JeryyRigEverything scratch test on phones with GG3, GG4 and GG5, they all scratch at level 6 mho scale meaning there's really no difference when it comes to scratch resistance as for drop resistance GG4 and GG5 may have an advantage but if you just slap a case on your phone anyway then you won't have any problems. (Even the cheapest case would do as long as it covers the corners and sides!)

poco phone screen is really fragile , also consider the weight , 4000 mah quite heavy , invest in a good case

I was not using any kind of protector till a few days back. I keep the phone only in one pocket no other item still got microscopic scratches. Had to put a tempered glass which I personally don't like.

n00b_dr0id said:
I was not using any kind of protector till a few days back. I keep the phone only in one pocket no other item still got microscopic scratches. Had to put a tempered glass which I personally don't like.
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Micro-scratching will occur no matter which phone you buy. If you can live with them, then you can live without a screen protector. Personally, I feel a decent screen protector is worth the investment, just don't cheap out and apply the cheapest one available and it would be fine I guess.

Negi9 said:
Micro-scratching will occur no matter which phone you buy. If you can live with them, then you can live without a screen protector. Personally, I feel a decent screen protector is worth the investment, just don't cheap out and apply the cheapest one available and it would be fine I guess.
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well, I could show you my 3,5 y.o. iphone6 and I never used a screen protector but there's no scratch at all.
however my pocophone already got a slightly deeper scratch - thus and due to the polarization issue I'm using a protector now - and my tissot a few more (~5).

meltbanana said:
well, I could show you my 3,5 y.o. iphone6 and I never used a screen protector but there's no scratch at all.
however my pocophone already got a slightly deeper scratch - thus and due to the polarization issue I'm using a protector now - and my tissot a few more (~5).
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I am not saying you're lying, but there's a plethora of variables involved with your claim. It might be true (due to iPhone 6 being a flagship with a hefty price tag) that it has a superior quality screen but no glass screen is immune to scratches. It only takes a sand particle dragged with just enough force, no glass would be able to prevent a scratch.

Negi9 said:
I am not saying you're lying, but there's a plethora of variables involved with your claim. It might be true (due to iPhone 6 being a flagship with a hefty price tag) that it has a superior quality screen but no glass screen is immune to scratches. It only takes a sand particle dragged with just enough force, no glass would be able to prevent a scratch.
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believe it or not, it's fact

meltbanana said:
believe it or not, it's fact
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You didn't get my point at all lol. Nevermind.

Negi9 said:
You didn't get my point at all lol. Nevermind.
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dude, "I am not saying you're lying ..." maybe isn't the best way to kick off a conversation.
without a doubt the iphone6 was sold at $800 and has a supreme, extremely scratch resistant or nearly scratch-proof glass but that's not my point.
I even own a tissot and it got ~5 deeper scratches from dust in my trousers pockets(?) in about 3 months.
my experience with GG3 is anything else than good.